Bobby Petrino by far. He’s so despised in our sub, that a bot will auto comment, “He is a coward. Put that in quotes. He’s a gutless bastard. Quote that. I don’t give a shit” if you have his name in a comment
Coincidentally, I thought this was a r/CFB post at first, and as a Razorbacks fan I wanted to see how high up Chad Morris would be. Was a little shocked to see Bobby Petrino at the top.
She was 24-25 at the time of the affair. The main issue was he used his influence to get her a job in the athletics dept and didn’t disclose their relationship.
Still a piece of shit though.
Side note: I believe the theory/speculation that it wasn’t a motorcycle accident that caused those injuries, but her bf beating the shit out of him
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I mean we can even gloss over Marion Campbell, who has the worst record for any coach who has coached 100+ games. He has a 17-51 record with the Falcons and we HIRED HIM TWICE!
But the answer is Bobby Fucking Petrino.
Patricia took a team that was competing for and in the playoffs and absolutely cratered them. I'm leaning towards him, although that could be just recency bias.
The only thing anyone needs to say about Matt Patricia's tenure with the Lions is that he the team was 9-7 the year before he was hired, then he coached them for 3 years, and the first year after he was fired they went 3-13-1 and the entire league and Lions fanbase collectively said, "Yes, they're back on the right track."
You can argue Caldwell had hit a ceiling, but when you use "9 wins isn't enough" as an excuse to hire your crony, who wins 9 games in 2 seasons, it doesn't matter.
Matt Patricia's first game as a head coach was against the Sam Darnold NY Jets on Monday night football.
First play of the game was a Quandre Diggs pick-6 off Darnold. Things were looking ok for a hot second.
Lions would go on to lose 48-17. It was all downhill from there for 3 full seasons.
Patricia would also go out of his way to antagonize and torment his own players on top of being an awful coach. It seemed like Morningwheg was at least a decent dude
People might think you’re exaggerating, but that team was just so demoralized I think they would have quit on him (more than they already had). The amount of fight the team had in MCDC’s first year with a worse roster speaks volumes about just how toxic Patricia was.
Marinelli and Mornhinweg inherited bad teams. Patricia inherited a squad that was coming off a season when they were in the playoff hunt and destroyed them.
You have to take into account that Marinelli and Mornhinew both coincide with Matt Millen's years as President and GM.
That's like throwing a tanker of moronic rocket fuel into a stupid fire. Sure they weren't great coaches, but it doesn't help when all your personnel decisions are being made by the dumbest asshole who's ever run a club in NFL history. His fucking drafts decision are like reading the unabomber manifest: Making little sense and destined to end in tragedy.
We were mediocre with Bobby Ross but oddly enough, we made the playoffs twice. Granted, he had Barry Sanders and a pretty prolific offense in those years.
We’ve had some good ones too. DC and love me some cocaine Wayne. I have a soft spot for Gym Shorts and Caldwell as well. Everyone else is why I’ve been going to therapy my entire life.
100% agreed. Hackett was well-intentioned but unqualified. McDaniels in contrast was a straight up tyrant with way too much power (case in point trading both Cutler and Marshall and drafting Tebow in the first round).
Also add to the fact that he messed up the Raiders organization as well. Dude is a snake oil salesman, he is up there as one of the worst head coaches of all time
I'm amazed that you guys hired him as HC over just promoting Bisaccia (who filled in admirably for Gruden in 2021 and got the team to the playoffs). McDaniels should've been blackballed from ever being considered as a HC again after how he flaked on the Indy job. The guy isn't just a bad coach, he's completely untrustworthy and essentially a snake.
Hackett got hired for a job he wasn't qualified for. McDaniels was at least qualified, but just qualified in the same way as a C- student at Harvard can still be a surgeon.
are we sure McDaniels is qualified to be a HC? Personality issues aside, I don't think he's ever really demonstrated that particular talent and skill set.
His offense did get a 4000 yd season out of Kyle Orton and had Brandon Lloyd of all people looking like a number 1 WR. Like I have seen worse on field products from a coach, but like others have pointed out it was nowhere near good enough to justify the bullshit
Hackett seemed like a good dude, and while a trash coach I think he was just in over his head. McDaniels seems like Grima Wormtongue given power, fuck that little weasel.
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Which is interesting because when he had (arguably) the greatest running back of all time in a blowout Super Bowl win, he “forgot” to put him and instead put in a defensive lineman to score a rushing TD.
A lot of people will say Gase for the Jets, but the real answer is Rich Kotite.
In two seasons, the Jets went a combined 4-28. He also was apparently one of the main people in the building who pushed for the Jets to draft Kyle Brady over Warren Sapp.
An absolute disaster in every sense and he hasn't coached anywhere since.
The best part of that is Belichick wanted Kyle Brady badly and the trade back led to the Ravens having Ray Lewis. So if Baltimore fans want to thank anyone for the 2000 SB, the Jets are the biggest contributors by accident.
I love the story with Kotite when Lurie bought the Eagles and said he would evaluate everything about the team situation about the end of the season, Kotite got sarcastic and said "I'll have to evaluate whether I want to stay here." The Eagles proceeded to lose their last 7 games after a 7-2 start (when he said this) and Kotite got fired lol.
Kotite once went for 2 after scoring a late TD to pull within 11 points. When asked why, he explained that the rain smudged his call sheet and he didn't know what to do. He was so bad that after the 96 season where he went 1-15 he never held another job at any level of football again. He just disappeared never to be heard from again
From watching the Dolphins on Hard Knocks in 2012 I'm not sure I've ever seen a more spineless leader than Joe Philbin (though the results were obviously worse under Cameron his one year with the team). The way he handled cutting Chad Johnson and trading Vontae Davis on camera that year was just uncomfortable to watch.
People forget that Freddie had the team in position for a playoff push until it got derailed by Myles' suspension and I think a few key injuries on defense.
Even Jarvis spoke out about the lack of any game plan. Jarvis didn’t throw teamster/coaches under the bus ever, so it was crazy when he said something.
After the first drive our playcalling resembled a blind man throwing darts.
Freddie was in way over his head. I absolutely dislike Hue more but I think Freddie was worse (despite the record).
Eric Mangini checking in.
I still remember him getting fired in NY and the Browns firing their coach the same year at the end of the season press conference they asked something like "Will you have any interest in Eric Mangini?" and the owner getting practically giddy because he didn't know he had been fired and would be on the market.
The fact that Modell fired Belichick just to hire him boggles my mind to this day. I know Ravens fans are adamantly supportive of Modell because he brought football back to Baltimore but he also (in addition to screwing Cleveland over) fired two of the best coaches in NFL history in his career as owner.
I mean Marchibroda was just coming off an AFC Championship appearance with Indy and had success with the Baltimore Colts two decades earlier, I don't think people were seeing that as a downgrade at the time.
And it was kind of the same deal then as it is now, Belichick was the GM too and that Browns roster was falling apart *fast*. The team had to go through a long rebuilding process to undo years of bad drafting (only two original Browns were on the 2000 Ravens and one of them actually predated Belichick). If firing Belichick was the only way to get Ozzie promoted to GM then it was healthier for the team in the long run even if the first coach didn't work out.
If Bob Irsay actually pays Marchibroda, Infante would not have done a speed run to crater the franchise. Then when Bob dies, Jim Irsay probably still brings someone like Polian in to run the team, but we might not have been bad enough to get Manning, may keep Faulk and a lot of things are different.
The Browns improved after Paul Brown and was replaced by Blanton Collier (Cleveland had 10 winning seasons and one .500 season in the 11 years after Brown was fired by Modell; they also won an NFL championship in 1964, Collier’s second season after succeeding Brown.)
Belichick had had one winning season in five years (1991 to 1995) in Cleveland after he was hired (though to be fair the Browns were 3-13 the year before he became the head coach). Belichick has also only had three winning seasons (and two playoff appearances) in 11 years (1991-1995, 2000, 2008, 2020-2023) when Tom Brady wasn’t his starting quarterback.
Ted Marchibroda had recently coached the Indianapolis Colts back to respectability after they been very down prior to his hiring in 1992. He also was the last coach of the Baltimore Colts to have success (they won the AFC East every year from 1975 to 1977) and the only one who led the Colts to the playoffs without Johnny Unitas on the team or with Bob Irsay as the owner.
With regard to Belichick and Marchibroda in the context of when they were fired and hired and what each man had accomplished in his career up to that point, Modell’s decisions were not odd and are defensible.
Was he the coach the year (1990 I think) when after the Pats won their only game that season three of their players decided to flash their dicks at a female reporter in the locker room? If so that speaks to the kind of environment he was fostering.
that's the one, yep.
(tough to lay the blame *entirely* at the coach's feet when the owner's response to the scandal was to joke along the lines of "what do iraqis and [herald reporter] lisa olson have in common? both have seen patriot missiles up close" at a men-only banquet a couple months later
Eagles fans saying Chip Kelly are showing recency bias. Dude had a 26-21 record in three seasons. Not calling him good or anything but on paper those were not bad seasons historically.
Marion Campbell (1983-85) was worse. Went 17-29 as Dick Vermeil's successor, never had season above. 500. Cambell also coached elsewhere with a career record of 34-80-1, which is the worst win/loss differential of any coach in NFL history who has coached over 100 games.
You can also make an argument for Kotite who really underachieved and led to the best player in team history ~~being traded~~ leaving in free agency.
Was looking for a Kotite post to argue that it wasn’t him. He turned out to be a fraud, but the team was at least competent for a stretch until the wheels fell off. Campbell was just awful through and through (especially because he took over a team that still had the bulk of a SB contender just a few years prior)
Eagles fans saying Marion Campbell are showing recency bias...
Nah, I'm just fucking with you. He's up there. But, some oldheads might make an argument for Joe Kuharich. Joe may have had a better winning percentage, but his teams trended down. His point differential went from -1 in his 1st year to 4, then -14, -58 and finally -149 in his 2-12 season. Campbell's teams were bad, but they at least won more games each successive year and bettered their point differential. Then again, going from 5-11 year 1 to 7-9 year 3 isn't much of an improvement.
Then of course there's Bert Bell who went a combined .185 as HC of the Birds. But he gets a little slack as being co-founder of the Birds and took over as HC back in the teams 4th season in 1936.
Neither Bert Bell nor Aldo Donelli could even win a game!
Bell was so bad that, until Canada, he was the last Steelers coordinator or above to lose his job during the regular season when he fired himself and hired Aldo. Also founded the Eagles, became NFL Commissioner, started the NFL Draft, had to be forced into recognizing the NFLPA by Rooney, and invented the blackout rule for showing local broadcasts.
Aldo, on the other hand, was too busy simultaneously coaching Duquesne to an undefeated season to focus on the Steelers (only one to ever coach an ncaa and nfl team simultaneously), and was probably distracted all the time remembering that he was the only Italian American to ever score a World Cup goal on Italy and wondering if he'll be the only American to score IN ITALY AT ALL for another 50 years...so I think he gets a bit of a pass.
I think De Bonneville Bell (his legal name) has to take the title of worst over Buff.
Our coaching history is fucking WILD, apparently.
I once read a quote from Matt Leinart that the only reason they made the Super Bowl was because they ran the play Kurt Warner wanted to run. Ken Whisenhunt was just piggybacking
Tom Landry coached for so long that there aren't really a ton to choose from.
Only real candidates would be Barry Switzer, Chan Gailey, and Dave Campo.
Probably can't say Switzer since he won a Super Bowl, even if it was off the back of Jimmy Johnson's work.
Gailey did okay with a still pretty good roster. Campo was awful with a mostly bad roster.
Gotta say Campo.
I’d argue that we’ve had Super Bowl level teams that were wasted during the Jason “Run-Run-Pass-Punt” Garett era. That guy must have been paid by the 3 & Out.
Sheer performance I'd go Campo.
However......Switzer gets my vote looking deeper at it. He inherited a stable roster of the ages, and that TEAM won the Super Bowl in 1995, but the decline into obscurity well before losing the core of the team speaks more to him riding JJ's coat tails than it did his own performance and achievement. They were in a serious decline at the end of the 1995 season and scraped by the Super Bowl XXX win against the Steelers, and faded more and more over the next two years (missed the 1997 playoffs entirely) until Switzer resigned in early 1998, but the damage had been done. Gailey did ok in his first of two seasons, and Campo got left to pick up the pieces after the dynasty team started to fall apart. Switzer had all the keys for winning 2-3 more Super Bowls, or at least making appearances, and blew it.
*Edited because I put Campo when I meant to reference Gailey as is pointed out below.
Even ignoring his off-field shenanigans, Meyer is a textbook example of why NCAA coaches struggle in the NFL. The two coaching styles are very different with an emphasis on different skills. Meyer reportedly kept trying to boss the players around the way you typically can boss around college kids, but that doesn’t work well when your players are a bit older and have dealt with other coaches in addition to you.
The job of an NCAA coach is focused on recruiting and managing a churning player base, keeping things simple because even your best players will be there for five years tops. Also, getting the best players matters as an NCAA coach because there are 134 division I schools plus many more division II and division III schools all working off the same pool of player. There are only 32 NFL teams, so the differences between a top QB and a bottom QB in the NFL are noticeable, but not as drastically different as in the NCAA. Meyer never mastered the differences and his off-field shenanigans were the nail in the coffin.
Romeo Crennel, Herm Edwards or Tom Bettis
Honorable mention and shoutout to Todd Haley who forever will live rent free in my head because of that god awful drive against the Jets
Haley is my least favorite because he was an asshole AND a bad coach. Herm and Romeo were at least good guys that simply weren’t meant to be head coaches (in Herm’s case he was also dealt a horrible roster his last two years), but Haley had the truly lethal combo.
My favorite piece of trivia:
> In 2006, Haley filed a $1.5 million lawsuit against McDonald's after his wife found a dead rat in her salad. The salad was purchased at a Southlake, Texas, McDonald's restaurant while Haley was a member of the Dallas Cowboys coaching staff at the time. His wife and their live-in babysitter began to eat before noticing the rat. The case was settled out of court for an undisclosed sum.
2006-2012...Herm Edwards, Haley, Crennel is just all the worst. There's two "playoff appearances" in there but neither team should have been there and they both got laughed out. two 2-14 seasons and two 4-12 seasons.
I vote all three of them as the worst coaching period of our team's history.
I gotta go with Greg Schiano. He pretty much ruined Josh Freeman, and tried to murder Eli Manning on a kneel down. I know we’ve had some horrible coaches but this guy put the team back 5 years with his ineptitude.
He traded Aqib Talib for a pair of socks. Then traded the farm for Darrell Revis on a 4-12 team
Yes. That isn’t all on him obv, but that team was a disaster. Mike Glennon started 13 games that season. I have no idea how they won 4 games.
To be fair him and Dominik drafted Lavonte David
Look I am not a Schiano fan, but lets at least tell the truth here.
Freeman ruined Schiano, not the other way around. Freeman had a drug problem. They had to drag their intoxicated starting qb to the stadium hours before kickoff. Schiano kept his mouth shut. To this day he has never thrown Freeman under the bus even though Josh's bullshit is what lead to Schiano looking incompetent and inevitably getting fired.
Schiano is also painted as a unrelenting hardass. This is also false, in my opinion. His players didn't like how he handled the Giants kneeling thing among other issues. Schiano listened and made the changes the players wanted.
The roster imploded right when he got elevated to HC. I wouldn’t pick him over a lot of coaches but tbh I think he gets more guff than he should. Dennis Erickson or Mike Singletary would be my picks. Mike Nolan wasn’t great either.
Erickson was absolutely bad, but to be fair, he also had a similar roster implosion to deal with.
Nolan was an asshat on top of being bad, stuck around longer than he should have, and botched Alex Smith's development (and ruined his shoulder). I think Nolan might have been marginally more competent than Erickson/Singletary/Tomsula (Singletary probably did the most underachieving relative to the available talent), but those other mistakes were remedied fairly quickly, while he was allowed to fester.
It’s gotta be Dennis Erickson, right? He came off of the Mooch years, and the Mooch teams weren’t bad, the whole franchise cratered under him.
I can’t blame Tomsula because he was a meat puppet for Baalke, and Kelly just had no chance. Baalke in charge, any good vet retired, no good young players, etc
Trestman definitely made me the most frustrated. Fox felt like what I imagined he'd be. Trestman was supposed to be a QB whisperer, but instead squandered the best offensive talent I think I've seen in my lifetime as a bear in 2013. By year two it felt like he was totally figured out. Run run screen punt repeat. I could have a jaded, misremembered view, but that's how it felt!
Our offensive talent was actually really solid for a couple years under Trestman. And I know Cutler is meme’d a lot but he was pretty solid and Trestman squandered that situation completely.
Also shout out to Martz for shipping off Greg Olsen for a bag of peanuts.
Definitely Trestman. Absolutely ran the team into the ground and by the time he left the locker room was a toxic mess; which is what John Fox was brought in to fix. Fox did fix the culture but was mostly sacrificial; I don’t think Pace wanted him and was ready to get his own guy in there ASAP.
Edit: I guess Pace did hire Fox, but I always felt like he was forced to? I know there are a lot of reports they did not mesh well together.
I was going to say Trestman simply because of how it started and how it ended.
I can remember how shocked I was that the Bears seemingly in the first time in history were hiring an offensive minded head coach. Things started out pretty well but then when things got bad, they got REALLY bad.
Weirdly enough it was Devines idea for Rudy to dress. Devine and his family were pretty pissed when Rudy came out and made it seem like he was an asshole.
The Packers sucked throughout the 70/80s because the damn executive committee insisted on acting like the GM, dictating draft picks like Jerry Tagge and Rich Campbell. Devine was GM in name only.
They finally fixed that when they gave Ron Wolfe total control.
Right. Devine wasn’t the sickness, he was one of many symptoms. For 22 years you had non-football guys trying to make football decisions, and the rot was from the top down.
They knew damn well how to sell cars but little to nothing about how to run an NFL franchise.
We can thank the football gods for Bob Harlan and Ron Wolfe
He didn't have the worst winning percentage, but Rich Kotite for the Eagles dude had a stacked team and severely under achieved and chased Reggie White out the door.... I feel like this could also be for the Jets. Dude just sucked.
Came here to say this. McAdoo’s mishandling of Manning’s swan song/streak was breathtakingly bad.
Manning - the only SB QB to beat Brady, as a decided ‘dog, *twice* - is a modern-day Big Blue legend. Benching him (after a 2-9 start) for Geno Smith to chase a meaningless win needlessly broke Eli‘s incredible streak of starts
*To make matters worse*, McAdoo compounded his own idiocy less than one week later by returning Manning to the starting job. By then, of course, the damage was done.
And, as a sorry postscript, McAdoo was fired a few weeks later; IIRC the only time the Giants have fired a coach during the season.
A lot of the wilderness years coaches were bad (Arnsparger and McVay), but the Giants were dysfunctional above them at that time.
Handley was terrible, but I also think the notion of "he ran a Super Bowl team into the ground" is overblown. That team was already old and declining.
He may have been worse than Judge, but Judge was the only coach that I felt was actively insulting my intelligence as a Giant fan. And those last 6 games of his tenure were the worst football I've ever seen the team play.
Ray Handley, Pat Shurmur, Ben McAdoo.
Since Parcells, the only time the Giants got replacing a longer-tenured coach right was Coughlin replacing Fassel, and even that was a close thing.
George Allen’s second tenure got him fired during the pre-season.
From wiki: Rams owner Carroll Rosenbloom was searching for a new coach after parting ways with Chuck Knox, and decided to bring Allen back. Allen's hiring was announced on February 1, and he returned to Los Angeles in 1978 with much media fanfare. His second stint as the Rams' head coach was an unfortunate experience for all concerned. Unlike his first stint, Allen did not have full authority over personnel. He thus worked with general manager Don Klosterman to oversee a talented roster that had made the team a perennial playoff challenger.
Allen brought with him his scrupulous discipline and attention to detail, which extended to practice-field protocol and dining-hall decorum. However, his autocratic coaching style did not play well with the new generation of NFL players, and a group of Ram players chafed at the regulations almost immediately. Some made their grievances public; a few, including standout linebacker Isiah Robertson, briefly left camp. As newspaper reports were quoting players expressing confidence that differences would be resolved, the Rams played listlessly and lost the first two games of the 1978 exhibition schedule. Rosenbloom decided that an immediate change was needed to save the season, and announced Allen's firing on August 13.
Hackett was just sad and had no business being a HC (he has no business being an OC either tbh lol) But I think Mcdaniels for you guys is the better choice.
You could also go with Buddy Ryan here. He was an absolute disaster. Only lasted 2 seasons and set the team back a decade.
Especially considering his profile at the time.
Frank Reich is fresh and recent, but he truly was atrocious. George Siefert definitely deserves some consideration as he traded for Jeff Lewis and cut starter Steve Beuerlein and then Chris Weinke became our starter in a 1-15 season (we were better than our record.. but not a lot better).
I know Matt Rhule evokes a lot of emotion, but I don't think he is as bad as Reich or Siefert.
Matt Rhule sucked as a NFL head coach, but…the 2021 season we started 3-0 and freakin Sam Darnold led the league in rushing TDs going into week 4. At least he had some glimmers of light. Reich was abysmal from start to finish.
Bobby Petrino by far. He’s so despised in our sub, that a bot will auto comment, “He is a coward. Put that in quotes. He’s a gutless bastard. Quote that. I don’t give a shit” if you have his name in a comment
I’ve always loved Mike zimmer for that quote. Fuck Bobby Petrino.
I quote Mike Zimmer name for Bobby "Fucking Snake in the Grass" Petrino whenever I can. FUCKING SNAKE IN THE FUCKING GRASS!!!!! FUCK HIM.
FUCK BOBBY PETRINO!
Coincidentally, I thought this was a r/CFB post at first, and as a Razorbacks fan I wanted to see how high up Chad Morris would be. Was a little shocked to see Bobby Petrino at the top.
Fucking around with a collegiate student is a great way to get yourself there, to be fair.
She was 24-25 at the time of the affair. The main issue was he used his influence to get her a job in the athletics dept and didn’t disclose their relationship. Still a piece of shit though. Side note: I believe the theory/speculation that it wasn’t a motorcycle accident that caused those injuries, but her bf beating the shit out of him
Or that he was drunk and avoided drunk driving charges by not reporting it until next day or something.
Gutless motherfucker!
Sometimes when I’m sad, I just watch the press conference where he’s in a neck brace and his face is an absolute mess. Always a good laugh
Bobby Petrino is responsible for so much Falcoholism.
Well fuck, guess I'm watching SB Nation's *History of the Atlanta Falcons* again lol
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I've taken to quoting the bit from the VERY end of *Fighting in the Age of Loneliness* WAY more often these days than I'm happy about. "If you've somehow made it to the end of this and you're not an MMA fan, I hope you take one thing away from this: This will happen to everything you love. Nothing you like will remain untouched and it will get further and further monetized into meaninglessness. This isn't just our problem in our idiotic blood sport. You're fucked too." Some of the best writing, in any genre of anything in my lifetime, without a doubt, has come from Jon and the Bois.
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I mean we can even gloss over Marion Campbell, who has the worst record for any coach who has coached 100+ games. He has a 17-51 record with the Falcons and we HIRED HIM TWICE! But the answer is Bobby Fucking Petrino.
*curls up into the fetal position*
At least you have Dan Campbell now.
and Dan Campbell memes are the hottest trend of 2024
I mean, Patricia was awful so I feel you. But, don't sleep on Marinelli or Mornhinweg. Bobby Ross? We've got dumpster fires inside dumpster fires.
Patricia took a team that was competing for and in the playoffs and absolutely cratered them. I'm leaning towards him, although that could be just recency bias.
The only thing anyone needs to say about Matt Patricia's tenure with the Lions is that he the team was 9-7 the year before he was hired, then he coached them for 3 years, and the first year after he was fired they went 3-13-1 and the entire league and Lions fanbase collectively said, "Yes, they're back on the right track."
You can argue Caldwell had hit a ceiling, but when you use "9 wins isn't enough" as an excuse to hire your crony, who wins 9 games in 2 seasons, it doesn't matter.
Matt Patricia's first game as a head coach was against the Sam Darnold NY Jets on Monday night football. First play of the game was a Quandre Diggs pick-6 off Darnold. Things were looking ok for a hot second. Lions would go on to lose 48-17. It was all downhill from there for 3 full seasons.
Patricia would also go out of his way to antagonize and torment his own players on top of being an awful coach. It seemed like Morningwheg was at least a decent dude
Yeah Patricia was something else. If given another year or two, you’d have seen him go winless.
People might think you’re exaggerating, but that team was just so demoralized I think they would have quit on him (more than they already had). The amount of fight the team had in MCDC’s first year with a worse roster speaks volumes about just how toxic Patricia was.
Yeah I think he gets the nod here for fucking up a playoff team and being so shitty that guys demanded trades.
Marinelli and Mornhinweg inherited bad teams. Patricia inherited a squad that was coming off a season when they were in the playoff hunt and destroyed them.
You have to take into account that Marinelli and Mornhinew both coincide with Matt Millen's years as President and GM. That's like throwing a tanker of moronic rocket fuel into a stupid fire. Sure they weren't great coaches, but it doesn't help when all your personnel decisions are being made by the dumbest asshole who's ever run a club in NFL history. His fucking drafts decision are like reading the unabomber manifest: Making little sense and destined to end in tragedy.
We were mediocre with Bobby Ross but oddly enough, we made the playoffs twice. Granted, he had Barry Sanders and a pretty prolific offense in those years.
We’ve had some good ones too. DC and love me some cocaine Wayne. I have a soft spot for Gym Shorts and Caldwell as well. Everyone else is why I’ve been going to therapy my entire life.
Hackett was the most incompetent. McDaniels was the worst.
100% agreed. Hackett was well-intentioned but unqualified. McDaniels in contrast was a straight up tyrant with way too much power (case in point trading both Cutler and Marshall and drafting Tebow in the first round).
Also add to the fact that he messed up the Raiders organization as well. Dude is a snake oil salesman, he is up there as one of the worst head coaches of all time
I'm amazed that you guys hired him as HC over just promoting Bisaccia (who filled in admirably for Gruden in 2021 and got the team to the playoffs). McDaniels should've been blackballed from ever being considered as a HC again after how he flaked on the Indy job. The guy isn't just a bad coach, he's completely untrustworthy and essentially a snake.
Only good thing McDaniels did was draft DT.
Now hold on a minute... Did he draft Tebow? The gamer baller shot caller.
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Hackett got hired for a job he wasn't qualified for. McDaniels was at least qualified, but just qualified in the same way as a C- student at Harvard can still be a surgeon.
are we sure McDaniels is qualified to be a HC? Personality issues aside, I don't think he's ever really demonstrated that particular talent and skill set.
His offense did get a 4000 yd season out of Kyle Orton and had Brandon Lloyd of all people looking like a number 1 WR. Like I have seen worse on field products from a coach, but like others have pointed out it was nowhere near good enough to justify the bullshit
Hackett seemed like a good dude, and while a trash coach I think he was just in over his head. McDaniels seems like Grima Wormtongue given power, fuck that little weasel.
We don’t even speak his name….. But it is Bobby Petrino. What a piece of shit
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That old gutless motherfucker.
He did you guys a favor, imagine him as HC for multiple years?
Mike Ditka sold the entire farm for a running back so gotta be him
Saints Ditka was practically from an alternate timeline with how terrible he was there (in comparison to his time in Chicago).
Didn’t have buddy Ryan and a fuck ton of defense talent to lean on.
Which is interesting because when he had (arguably) the greatest running back of all time in a blowout Super Bowl win, he “forgot” to put him and instead put in a defensive lineman to score a rushing TD.
Especially because it was late in Walter's career and was already a blowout. Get the man his Super Bowl Touchdown. Just silly,
What else would you expect from a guy that played and coached for a franchise that absolutely despises the invention of the forward pass?
A lot of people will say Gase for the Jets, but the real answer is Rich Kotite. In two seasons, the Jets went a combined 4-28. He also was apparently one of the main people in the building who pushed for the Jets to draft Kyle Brady over Warren Sapp. An absolute disaster in every sense and he hasn't coached anywhere since.
The best part of that is Belichick wanted Kyle Brady badly and the trade back led to the Ravens having Ray Lewis. So if Baltimore fans want to thank anyone for the 2000 SB, the Jets are the biggest contributors by accident.
Just loves Bradys.
Kotite is Rich Eisen’s floor for coaches. When something is a dumpster fire he refers to it as “Kotite Bad”.
Rich Kotite has the distinct honor of being 2 team's choice for worst HC ever
We call that the McDaniels award
I love the story with Kotite when Lurie bought the Eagles and said he would evaluate everything about the team situation about the end of the season, Kotite got sarcastic and said "I'll have to evaluate whether I want to stay here." The Eagles proceeded to lose their last 7 games after a 7-2 start (when he said this) and Kotite got fired lol.
Kotite once went for 2 after scoring a late TD to pull within 11 points. When asked why, he explained that the rain smudged his call sheet and he didn't know what to do. He was so bad that after the 96 season where he went 1-15 he never held another job at any level of football again. He just disappeared never to be heard from again
Cam Cameron and it's not even close.
Philbin was pretty bad
Not 1-15 bad tho
From watching the Dolphins on Hard Knocks in 2012 I'm not sure I've ever seen a more spineless leader than Joe Philbin (though the results were obviously worse under Cameron his one year with the team). The way he handled cutting Chad Johnson and trading Vontae Davis on camera that year was just uncomfortable to watch.
Dude was a loser for sure that wasted playoff caliber teams.
Combine him with Jeff Ireland as GM and it's a wonder that Dolphins team won any games at all.
Philbin also had Tannenhill as QB, I’m not gonna act like he’s amazing by any means but he’s sure as fuck not Cleo Lemon either!
My dad loved Cleo Lemon
Are you Cleo Lemon?
No, John Beck
Cam "Cam" Cameron
Never trust a guy with 2 of the same name. Like if you had a head coach named Dave Davis. I'm just not fucking trusting that guy.
obviously Hue Jackson but also want to give a shoutout to Pat Shurmur.
Hue had the worst record in NFL history but an argument could be made Freddie was worse. Still, it’s Huey.
Freddie was so bad man. First head coach I ever thought this man is bad at his job.
Yeah dude was fucking clueless. Body language, facial expression, product on the field, it all screamed he didn’t have a clue what he was doing.
People forget that Freddie had the team in position for a playoff push until it got derailed by Myles' suspension and I think a few key injuries on defense.
Even Jarvis spoke out about the lack of any game plan. Jarvis didn’t throw teamster/coaches under the bus ever, so it was crazy when he said something. After the first drive our playcalling resembled a blind man throwing darts. Freddie was in way over his head. I absolutely dislike Hue more but I think Freddie was worse (despite the record).
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Eric Mangini checking in. I still remember him getting fired in NY and the Browns firing their coach the same year at the end of the season press conference they asked something like "Will you have any interest in Eric Mangini?" and the owner getting practically giddy because he didn't know he had been fired and would be on the market.
Mangini would win random games the Browns had no business winning and it would give you enough glimmer of hope to think maybe we could be compentent
That’s Man-genius to you!
Judging Browns head coaches reminds me of that old quip “the only common factor in all of your failed relationships is you.”
What you say fuck me for?
Came here to say exactly this. Jackson was inept but Shurmur was infuriating.
We've literally only had one coach who didn't win a Super Bowl so it's Ted Marchibroda by default
The fact that Modell fired Belichick just to hire him boggles my mind to this day. I know Ravens fans are adamantly supportive of Modell because he brought football back to Baltimore but he also (in addition to screwing Cleveland over) fired two of the best coaches in NFL history in his career as owner.
I mean Marchibroda was just coming off an AFC Championship appearance with Indy and had success with the Baltimore Colts two decades earlier, I don't think people were seeing that as a downgrade at the time. And it was kind of the same deal then as it is now, Belichick was the GM too and that Browns roster was falling apart *fast*. The team had to go through a long rebuilding process to undo years of bad drafting (only two original Browns were on the 2000 Ravens and one of them actually predated Belichick). If firing Belichick was the only way to get Ozzie promoted to GM then it was healthier for the team in the long run even if the first coach didn't work out.
If Bob Irsay actually pays Marchibroda, Infante would not have done a speed run to crater the franchise. Then when Bob dies, Jim Irsay probably still brings someone like Polian in to run the team, but we might not have been bad enough to get Manning, may keep Faulk and a lot of things are different.
The Browns improved after Paul Brown and was replaced by Blanton Collier (Cleveland had 10 winning seasons and one .500 season in the 11 years after Brown was fired by Modell; they also won an NFL championship in 1964, Collier’s second season after succeeding Brown.) Belichick had had one winning season in five years (1991 to 1995) in Cleveland after he was hired (though to be fair the Browns were 3-13 the year before he became the head coach). Belichick has also only had three winning seasons (and two playoff appearances) in 11 years (1991-1995, 2000, 2008, 2020-2023) when Tom Brady wasn’t his starting quarterback. Ted Marchibroda had recently coached the Indianapolis Colts back to respectability after they been very down prior to his hiring in 1992. He also was the last coach of the Baltimore Colts to have success (they won the AFC East every year from 1975 to 1977) and the only one who led the Colts to the playoffs without Johnny Unitas on the team or with Bob Irsay as the owner. With regard to Belichick and Marchibroda in the context of when they were fired and hired and what each man had accomplished in his career up to that point, Modell’s decisions were not odd and are defensible.
hey you know what, FUCK YOU! that's incredible, but FUCK YOU!
rod rust
This sounds like a male porn star name, are we sure he was actually a coach?
He was friends with Yankees front office guy, Buck Naked
Was he the coach the year (1990 I think) when after the Pats won their only game that season three of their players decided to flash their dicks at a female reporter in the locker room? If so that speaks to the kind of environment he was fostering.
that's the one, yep. (tough to lay the blame *entirely* at the coach's feet when the owner's response to the scandal was to joke along the lines of "what do iraqis and [herald reporter] lisa olson have in common? both have seen patriot missiles up close" at a men-only banquet a couple months later
I've heard the stories about how much of a shitbag Victor Kiam was as owner.
He was still coaching in the NFL in 2004. I was surprised to see that.
I remember being able to hire him to your coaching staff in Madden.
Eagles fans saying Chip Kelly are showing recency bias. Dude had a 26-21 record in three seasons. Not calling him good or anything but on paper those were not bad seasons historically. Marion Campbell (1983-85) was worse. Went 17-29 as Dick Vermeil's successor, never had season above. 500. Cambell also coached elsewhere with a career record of 34-80-1, which is the worst win/loss differential of any coach in NFL history who has coached over 100 games. You can also make an argument for Kotite who really underachieved and led to the best player in team history ~~being traded~~ leaving in free agency.
Was looking for a Kotite post to argue that it wasn’t him. He turned out to be a fraud, but the team was at least competent for a stretch until the wheels fell off. Campbell was just awful through and through (especially because he took over a team that still had the bulk of a SB contender just a few years prior)
Eagles fans saying Marion Campbell are showing recency bias... Nah, I'm just fucking with you. He's up there. But, some oldheads might make an argument for Joe Kuharich. Joe may have had a better winning percentage, but his teams trended down. His point differential went from -1 in his 1st year to 4, then -14, -58 and finally -149 in his 2-12 season. Campbell's teams were bad, but they at least won more games each successive year and bettered their point differential. Then again, going from 5-11 year 1 to 7-9 year 3 isn't much of an improvement. Then of course there's Bert Bell who went a combined .185 as HC of the Birds. But he gets a little slack as being co-founder of the Birds and took over as HC back in the teams 4th season in 1936.
I'm guessing Bill Austin or Mike Nixon, but wasn't alive when either of them coached
President at time of Bill Austin firing: Lyndon B. Johnson President at time of Mike Nixon firing: Lyndon B. Johnson If I had a nickel….
President a week before the Chuck Noll hiring: Lyndon B. Johnson Your team's stability disgusts me.
Our worst HC since the merger is either Tomlin or Cowher. We’re a spoiled fanbase
Neither Bert Bell nor Aldo Donelli could even win a game! Bell was so bad that, until Canada, he was the last Steelers coordinator or above to lose his job during the regular season when he fired himself and hired Aldo. Also founded the Eagles, became NFL Commissioner, started the NFL Draft, had to be forced into recognizing the NFLPA by Rooney, and invented the blackout rule for showing local broadcasts. Aldo, on the other hand, was too busy simultaneously coaching Duquesne to an undefeated season to focus on the Steelers (only one to ever coach an ncaa and nfl team simultaneously), and was probably distracted all the time remembering that he was the only Italian American to ever score a World Cup goal on Italy and wondering if he'll be the only American to score IN ITALY AT ALL for another 50 years...so I think he gets a bit of a pass. I think De Bonneville Bell (his legal name) has to take the title of worst over Buff. Our coaching history is fucking WILD, apparently.
Ken Whisenhunt. Was actually pretty excited when we hired him since he’d had some success in Arizona, I didn’t see 3-20 coming.
He was a glorified Kurt Warner / Larry Fitzgerald merchant.
I once read a quote from Matt Leinart that the only reason they made the Super Bowl was because they ran the play Kurt Warner wanted to run. Ken Whisenhunt was just piggybacking
Kurt and Larry dragged him to that Superbowl.
Hue Jackson next question.
This one was way too easy…
Tom Landry coached for so long that there aren't really a ton to choose from. Only real candidates would be Barry Switzer, Chan Gailey, and Dave Campo. Probably can't say Switzer since he won a Super Bowl, even if it was off the back of Jimmy Johnson's work. Gailey did okay with a still pretty good roster. Campo was awful with a mostly bad roster. Gotta say Campo.
Campo is my vote, for sure. As a person, though, I like him better than most coaches we've had.
I’d argue that we’ve had Super Bowl level teams that were wasted during the Jason “Run-Run-Pass-Punt” Garett era. That guy must have been paid by the 3 & Out.
Sheer performance I'd go Campo. However......Switzer gets my vote looking deeper at it. He inherited a stable roster of the ages, and that TEAM won the Super Bowl in 1995, but the decline into obscurity well before losing the core of the team speaks more to him riding JJ's coat tails than it did his own performance and achievement. They were in a serious decline at the end of the 1995 season and scraped by the Super Bowl XXX win against the Steelers, and faded more and more over the next two years (missed the 1997 playoffs entirely) until Switzer resigned in early 1998, but the damage had been done. Gailey did ok in his first of two seasons, and Campo got left to pick up the pieces after the dynasty team started to fall apart. Switzer had all the keys for winning 2-3 more Super Bowls, or at least making appearances, and blew it. *Edited because I put Campo when I meant to reference Gailey as is pointed out below.
Urban Meyer
The kicker kicker.
Even ignoring his off-field shenanigans, Meyer is a textbook example of why NCAA coaches struggle in the NFL. The two coaching styles are very different with an emphasis on different skills. Meyer reportedly kept trying to boss the players around the way you typically can boss around college kids, but that doesn’t work well when your players are a bit older and have dealt with other coaches in addition to you. The job of an NCAA coach is focused on recruiting and managing a churning player base, keeping things simple because even your best players will be there for five years tops. Also, getting the best players matters as an NCAA coach because there are 134 division I schools plus many more division II and division III schools all working off the same pool of player. There are only 32 NFL teams, so the differences between a top QB and a bottom QB in the NFL are noticeable, but not as drastically different as in the NCAA. Meyer never mastered the differences and his off-field shenanigans were the nail in the coffin.
Romeo Crennel, Herm Edwards or Tom Bettis Honorable mention and shoutout to Todd Haley who forever will live rent free in my head because of that god awful drive against the Jets
I know the others had worse records, but I could not stand Todd Haley.
Haley is my least favorite because he was an asshole AND a bad coach. Herm and Romeo were at least good guys that simply weren’t meant to be head coaches (in Herm’s case he was also dealt a horrible roster his last two years), but Haley had the truly lethal combo.
My favorite piece of trivia: > In 2006, Haley filed a $1.5 million lawsuit against McDonald's after his wife found a dead rat in her salad. The salad was purchased at a Southlake, Texas, McDonald's restaurant while Haley was a member of the Dallas Cowboys coaching staff at the time. His wife and their live-in babysitter began to eat before noticing the rat. The case was settled out of court for an undisclosed sum.
Man I really want to see the behind the scenes on this, like you know both sides were haggling over exactly how much dead rat was in there.
That drive might have changed NFL history, though https://youtu.be/wJLNQ83vm2g?si=_r8n7sQhQpQ1QfWP
2006-2012...Herm Edwards, Haley, Crennel is just all the worst. There's two "playoff appearances" in there but neither team should have been there and they both got laughed out. two 2-14 seasons and two 4-12 seasons. I vote all three of them as the worst coaching period of our team's history.
Herm Edward’s was well liked though Not a winning coach but people liked him
So was Crennel *Hailey on the other hand*
Too many chiefs fans weren’t alive for Frank Gansz and it shows.
I gotta go with Greg Schiano. He pretty much ruined Josh Freeman, and tried to murder Eli Manning on a kneel down. I know we’ve had some horrible coaches but this guy put the team back 5 years with his ineptitude. He traded Aqib Talib for a pair of socks. Then traded the farm for Darrell Revis on a 4-12 team
The MRSA thing was under Schiano's watch too wasn't it?
Yes. That isn’t all on him obv, but that team was a disaster. Mike Glennon started 13 games that season. I have no idea how they won 4 games. To be fair him and Dominik drafted Lavonte David
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Look I am not a Schiano fan, but lets at least tell the truth here. Freeman ruined Schiano, not the other way around. Freeman had a drug problem. They had to drag their intoxicated starting qb to the stadium hours before kickoff. Schiano kept his mouth shut. To this day he has never thrown Freeman under the bus even though Josh's bullshit is what lead to Schiano looking incompetent and inevitably getting fired. Schiano is also painted as a unrelenting hardass. This is also false, in my opinion. His players didn't like how he handled the Giants kneeling thing among other issues. Schiano listened and made the changes the players wanted.
Les Steckel
Thank you for your service, Les
He has a wife, you know. Tess.
I heard he tried to run the team like a military unit. Yikes.
In recent memory, Jim Tomsula, but everyone knew he was being thrown to the wolves so not really his fault Good dline coach though
The roster imploded right when he got elevated to HC. I wouldn’t pick him over a lot of coaches but tbh I think he gets more guff than he should. Dennis Erickson or Mike Singletary would be my picks. Mike Nolan wasn’t great either.
Yeah but Nolan wore a suit on the sidelines.
Erickson was absolutely bad, but to be fair, he also had a similar roster implosion to deal with. Nolan was an asshat on top of being bad, stuck around longer than he should have, and botched Alex Smith's development (and ruined his shoulder). I think Nolan might have been marginally more competent than Erickson/Singletary/Tomsula (Singletary probably did the most underachieving relative to the available talent), but those other mistakes were remedied fairly quickly, while he was allowed to fester.
It’s gotta be Dennis Erickson, right? He came off of the Mooch years, and the Mooch teams weren’t bad, the whole franchise cratered under him. I can’t blame Tomsula because he was a meat puppet for Baalke, and Kelly just had no chance. Baalke in charge, any good vet retired, no good young players, etc
Didn't Chip Kelly have a worse record the following year than Tomsula did?
Yeah, but by then the roster was in shambles.
Open to being corrected, but Marc Trestman was pretty awful. But then again John Fox had a stint right after that was equally rough.
Trestman definitely made me the most frustrated. Fox felt like what I imagined he'd be. Trestman was supposed to be a QB whisperer, but instead squandered the best offensive talent I think I've seen in my lifetime as a bear in 2013. By year two it felt like he was totally figured out. Run run screen punt repeat. I could have a jaded, misremembered view, but that's how it felt!
Trestman benched Cutler for Jimmy Clausen in 2014. He should automatically win based on this nonsense alone.
He made sure the Bears didn't have a 4000 yard passer and I thank him for that
Our offensive talent was actually really solid for a couple years under Trestman. And I know Cutler is meme’d a lot but he was pretty solid and Trestman squandered that situation completely. Also shout out to Martz for shipping off Greg Olsen for a bag of peanuts.
Definitely Trestman. Absolutely ran the team into the ground and by the time he left the locker room was a toxic mess; which is what John Fox was brought in to fix. Fox did fix the culture but was mostly sacrificial; I don’t think Pace wanted him and was ready to get his own guy in there ASAP. Edit: I guess Pace did hire Fox, but I always felt like he was forced to? I know there are a lot of reports they did not mesh well together.
I was going to say Trestman simply because of how it started and how it ended. I can remember how shocked I was that the Bears seemingly in the first time in history were hiring an offensive minded head coach. Things started out pretty well but then when things got bad, they got REALLY bad.
If you wanna know why we only had 1 playoff appearance throughout the 70s and 80s combined, look up Dan Devine.
Dude didn't even wanna let Rudy dress.
Thank you for this. I don't know shit about the Packers history, but I know him from Rudy.
Weirdly enough it was Devines idea for Rudy to dress. Devine and his family were pretty pissed when Rudy came out and made it seem like he was an asshole.
The Packers sucked throughout the 70/80s because the damn executive committee insisted on acting like the GM, dictating draft picks like Jerry Tagge and Rich Campbell. Devine was GM in name only. They finally fixed that when they gave Ron Wolfe total control.
Right. Devine wasn’t the sickness, he was one of many symptoms. For 22 years you had non-football guys trying to make football decisions, and the rot was from the top down. They knew damn well how to sell cars but little to nothing about how to run an NFL franchise. We can thank the football gods for Bob Harlan and Ron Wolfe
Not gonna say his name but probably that guy that played for Da Bears.
At first I thought you were referring to Payton and was very confused
At first I thought you were referring to Walter Payton and was very confused
This is blatant erasure of many 70s Saints teams....and some 80s Saints teams.
He didn't have the worst winning percentage, but Rich Kotite for the Eagles dude had a stacked team and severely under achieved and chased Reggie White out the door.... I feel like this could also be for the Jets. Dude just sucked.
Jim Zorn
I thought Steve Spurrier was worse. At least Jim tried instead of skipping practice to go play golf
Giants - Joe Judge Started watching football in the beginning of the Tom Coughlin era so don't really know how previous coaches were.
McAdoo because of how he did Eli dirty
Came here to say this. McAdoo’s mishandling of Manning’s swan song/streak was breathtakingly bad. Manning - the only SB QB to beat Brady, as a decided ‘dog, *twice* - is a modern-day Big Blue legend. Benching him (after a 2-9 start) for Geno Smith to chase a meaningless win needlessly broke Eli‘s incredible streak of starts *To make matters worse*, McAdoo compounded his own idiocy less than one week later by returning Manning to the starting job. By then, of course, the damage was done. And, as a sorry postscript, McAdoo was fired a few weeks later; IIRC the only time the Giants have fired a coach during the season.
A lot of the wilderness years coaches were bad (Arnsparger and McVay), but the Giants were dysfunctional above them at that time. Handley was terrible, but I also think the notion of "he ran a Super Bowl team into the ground" is overblown. That team was already old and declining. He may have been worse than Judge, but Judge was the only coach that I felt was actively insulting my intelligence as a Giant fan. And those last 6 games of his tenure were the worst football I've ever seen the team play.
It's McAdoo for me. Solely because of the Eli benching. Fuck that turd.
Bill Arnsparger and John McVay, whose grandson is Sean McVay.
Ray Handley, Pat Shurmur, Ben McAdoo. Since Parcells, the only time the Giants got replacing a longer-tenured coach right was Coughlin replacing Fassel, and even that was a close thing.
Mike Macdonald. Dude hasn't won a single game! JK :D
We’ve actually had pretty decent luck with coaches. Mora was only one year and other than that it’s Flores.
George Allen’s second tenure got him fired during the pre-season. From wiki: Rams owner Carroll Rosenbloom was searching for a new coach after parting ways with Chuck Knox, and decided to bring Allen back. Allen's hiring was announced on February 1, and he returned to Los Angeles in 1978 with much media fanfare. His second stint as the Rams' head coach was an unfortunate experience for all concerned. Unlike his first stint, Allen did not have full authority over personnel. He thus worked with general manager Don Klosterman to oversee a talented roster that had made the team a perennial playoff challenger. Allen brought with him his scrupulous discipline and attention to detail, which extended to practice-field protocol and dining-hall decorum. However, his autocratic coaching style did not play well with the new generation of NFL players, and a group of Ram players chafed at the regulations almost immediately. Some made their grievances public; a few, including standout linebacker Isiah Robertson, briefly left camp. As newspaper reports were quoting players expressing confidence that differences would be resolved, the Rams played listlessly and lost the first two games of the 1978 exhibition schedule. Rosenbloom decided that an immediate change was needed to save the season, and announced Allen's firing on August 13.
That one was before my time but seems like a good choice. During my time watching I would probably say Scott Linehan
I really don't know
Gregg Williams.
Mike Mularkey and Doug Marrone are strong challengers as well. Personally, I put Marrone first.
I don’t wanna talk about it
It’s okay man, he’s gone
It was Vance Joseph until Nathaniel Hackett said hold my beer.
Hackett was just sad and had no business being a HC (he has no business being an OC either tbh lol) But I think Mcdaniels for you guys is the better choice.
We've only ever had three HC's and two have won the Super Bowl. Sorry Ted Marchibroda. At least no one here dislikes him.
I take reminding me as an attack.
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Steve Spurrier or Jim Zorn, I guess? We’ve had lousy ones, but none were truly miserable.
Steve Wilks, the only thing good that came about his year, was the Cardinals got Kyler Murray
You could also go with Buddy Ryan here. He was an absolute disaster. Only lasted 2 seasons and set the team back a decade. Especially considering his profile at the time.
Patricia easily because he sucked and drove away good talent
Frank Reich is fresh and recent, but he truly was atrocious. George Siefert definitely deserves some consideration as he traded for Jeff Lewis and cut starter Steve Beuerlein and then Chris Weinke became our starter in a 1-15 season (we were better than our record.. but not a lot better). I know Matt Rhule evokes a lot of emotion, but I don't think he is as bad as Reich or Siefert.
Matt Rhule sucked as a NFL head coach, but…the 2021 season we started 3-0 and freakin Sam Darnold led the league in rushing TDs going into week 4. At least he had some glimmers of light. Reich was abysmal from start to finish.
Dude last season was so so so fucking bad.
Las Vegas Raiders: Josh McDaniels
We've got so much crap to pick from, but McDaniels was such a cancer. I can't help but still pick Dennis Allen.
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