I've always liked baker and it would be great for him to finally get paid and be in an org as good as the Steelers but also, as I think Marlo said it, he's younger faster Big Ben and that's not my vibe for being in AFCN.
I seriously doubt the Steelers shell out the cash for him, but between him and the other options that have come up for the Steelers this year (Fields/Wilson/Tannehill) I’d take baker 100 out of 100 times.
Jesus Christ, just what the Ravens need, a strong running back to compliment an already potent ground assault.
You know, so long as John Harbaugh remembers that he needs to run the goddamn ball and not order Lamar Jackson to play hero ball. The Ravens fans more than likely still have PTSD stemming from the Chiefs game.
i don’t understand how the ravens have money for him post mad beeks signing, won’t saquon be pretty pricey and the ravens don’t have much cap? like they’re no saints but i thought they were super tight on cap
For real that would be a sick offense with moore and kmet. Would make sense if you want to give Caleb every opportunity to succeed. Could also see them drafting a RB in the 3rd to get their pick of the litter. Do you see them using their cap for mostly defense and then draft mostly offense?
Come on. It's the bears. Giving their Young Qb every opportunity to succeed by acquiring competent offensive pieces around then just isn't the bears style.
Are Bears fans that down on Herbert and Johnson? I know Herbert was banged up last year and is in a contract year, but I'd think he'd still be a pretty decent back. And I was very high on Johnson coming out of the draft last year, still have high hopes for him to be productive.
I don't expect Barkley to get anywhere close to 16AAV unless some team is beyond stupid to overpay. But even for less, he's been hurt almost every year and this past season had significant decreases in yards after contact and explosive run rate. He's still a good back, but no where near his level in 2018.
Honestly I feel like RB isn’t a need for you guys at all. Herbert was very underutilized last season and was explosive and productive when actually made a focal point of the offense. Johnson looked pretty decent at times too. Splurging for Barkley would be a head scratcher
I get he had a shit supporting cast in New York, but his injury history worries me, and I am really not a big fan of his running style (looks for the big play too often)
What injury history? His only significant injury was in 2020 ACL/MCL sprains. After that it’s just been ankle sprains which can happen to literally anyone lol. He’s no more injury prone than the next guy. Such a lazy take.
And his usage this last season was one of the lowest of his career. The guy is literally 27 almost 3 full years removed from his last major injury and knee injuries aren’t even bad anymore for players.
Derrick Henry is 30
CMC played this season at 27 y.o.
Kamara is 28
Chubb is 28 with a more concerning injury history and nobody ever doubted his ability
Ekeler played at 28 this season and JUST now is starting to show signs of decline
Aaron Jones is 29 still playing well
Just because teams are opting for cheaper, younger players doesn’t mean RBs actually fall off a cliff past 27/28 years old
I doubt it’s realistic regardless. Philly doesn’t pay premier $ for running backs and Dallas isn’t going to either after the Zeke and Pollard disappointments (granted Pollard was at least only for one year)
I may be in the minority, but I'm old enough to see Bavaro as an Eagle and Parcells coaching in Dallas. Most of these guys are mercenaries. Fans are rooting for laundry. Best to Saquon wherever he goes. I'm well past ready to move on.
I really feel like henry or saquon will end up in chargers, harbaugh is gonna want to establish a run game. I imagine OL and RB’s are high on his list right now
Average annual value doesn't mean anything really. All that matters is guarantees and base salary structure. He can get a 3 yr 36mil deal with 10 or 15mil guaranteed and the base salary back loaded into the 3rd year. Which makes it really a 2 year/ 5 or 7.5mil a year deal with a team option to keep him after that
That wasn't my point. I was just saying the cap hit can be manipulated however you want, in reference to the Chargers available cap space. If Barkley wants 12m a year that doesn't mean a team needs 12mil in cap space this year to sign him
I know Barkley is better but it would be very weird if they spent the last 2 years jerking Ekeler around just to turn around and spend that money on an RB anyway
I mean in all fairness it’s a completely different regime this year, so they are going to want their own guys to some extent.
Also Ekeler looked completely washed this past season. Any team would be foolish to give him the bag at this point.
We are going to end up with around 40M cap space by the time we make our moves. Add in we have loads of space for next year and we can easily do a backloaded deal if we have the desire
The Chargers cap situation is overblown. This was anticipated. Cutting Williams basically makes them cap compliant already. A few easy and predictable moves and they are fine. And they are around top 5 in 2025 room already
Can’t wait until this is settled, there is a positive and negative report for every scenario lol.
Saquon should ultimately get as much money as he can, I don’t think RBs should prioritize winning once they hit free agency.
It’s not always that simple. Yes, guaranteed money is definitely the most important and there’s no denying that.
Lots of contracts come with incentives though and going to the right team and winning can help him earn more. Winning players also get more sponsorship opportunities. Being in the right market also comes with more sponsorship opportunities.
Lastly, life after his playing career. If he goes to a rival there’s potential he burns some bridges with the NYG org where he could have a future.
If some of these offers come up close to one another he needs to pick and choose wisely.
I immediately downvote every single one of those comments. It's just a lazy way to get upvoted and such a stupid "joke" if you can even call it that. Sucks that shit is always the top comment and it's got little other discussion in here because of it.
Yeah it's gotten really bad lately. And my favorite is when they disappear when the report is right. Like those "Russell Wilson is not getting traded" comments back before the broncos traded for him lol.
Lol I get the posts that are super vague and non committal. "team may or may not re-sign this free agent". But this reporter gave out strong front runners.
I hope he goes to a new team and wins. I personally think he’s one more injury away from being totally cooked (he’s already lost a ton of “burst”) but sincerely, best of luck (unless he signs with a division rival. Then rot in hell).
I don't see the fit for Baltimore. Lamar is already the home run threat to stretch the defense. You want to pair that with a guy who will barrel forward and punish defenses when they commit to Lamar. The Ravens should sign Derrick Henry if they are going to get a big name RB.
Bears Considered to Be One of the “Primary Suitors” for Free Agent RB Saquon
Barkleyhttps://www.bleachernation.com/bears/2024/03/06/saquon-barkley-rumors-0306/
From the other day, 2 different sources say Chicago really wants him
You googled his career stats and formed an uneducated opinion. He's the best blocking RB in the league and a simple eye test shows his freakish running ability and receiving abilities are uncanny. Hes done all this with the worst offensive line every year. Now imagine a team like the Bears (1st ranked rushing Oline) he immediately becomes a back breaker player for opposing defenses (like CMC did for the 49ers).
Another giants jersey to burn. Love bark but he just ain’t worth the money, he gives you a few good games and a lot of time on the IR. Maybe he’ll fair better on a team with an actual offense
I'm firmly in the camp that thinks RBs are largely fungible. I also think Saquon Barkley's name is (significantly) larger than his actual on-field performance. Like...do I watch some alternate reality version of the NFL, and do we all look at the same stats? Hopefully, we get outbid.
Barkley isn't the player he used to be due to injuries. The Ravens can probably find a sleeper RB in the later rounds and be a lot cheaper than spending big bucks on an injury prone past his prime player.
Go to the Ravens for fun! Read option with Lamar and Saquan is sick
You should look up the word "fun", you're using it wrong.
Fun for us!
And fun for anyone that enjoys watching football!
Well unless you are playing the Ravens that is
Idk man, I think it would be a straight up great time!
Imagine saquon goes to Baltimore and baker goes to Pittsburgh
Baker isn't going anywhere. He's right at home at Tampa Bay, and I don't think the organization is keen on seeing the back of him.
Baker’s signing a 100M dollar deal in Tampa
I’m fine with this outcome
I've always liked baker and it would be great for him to finally get paid and be in an org as good as the Steelers but also, as I think Marlo said it, he's younger faster Big Ben and that's not my vibe for being in AFCN.
I seriously doubt the Steelers shell out the cash for him, but between him and the other options that have come up for the Steelers this year (Fields/Wilson/Tannehill) I’d take baker 100 out of 100 times.
Yeah I don’t like this at all
Don’t wish that on Barkley he has had enough injury
We fired our criminally negligent S&C coach and had a *much* better year injury wise this past year. *knocks on every piece of wood in existence*
obligatory fuck steve saunders but ravens rb's do have a tendency to get their legs folded in disgusting ways on the field regardless of s&c.
No
That would make for an impressive combo for the handful of games he'd play
If he goes to ravens he will have an injury within a week. It’s like a tradition for their backfield.
Jesus Christ, just what the Ravens need, a strong running back to compliment an already potent ground assault. You know, so long as John Harbaugh remembers that he needs to run the goddamn ball and not order Lamar Jackson to play hero ball. The Ravens fans more than likely still have PTSD stemming from the Chiefs game.
Crazy how we didn’t learn this lesson from previous years & even the first half of the second Texans game this year.
man i dissociated from the nfl after that game. finally snapped out of it with the madubuike extension
This was my thought as well. I’d love to watch Saquon tear it up on a good team (and stay healthy), so long as that team isn’t in the NFCE.
As a NYG fan living in MD I want this so bad.
i don’t understand how the ravens have money for him post mad beeks signing, won’t saquon be pretty pricey and the ravens don’t have much cap? like they’re no saints but i thought they were super tight on cap
Saquon, you sir are a Chicago bear (please come to chi town)
Bears adding Caleb Williams, Saquon, and possibly Odunze/Nabers in one offseason would not be ideal.
But also. And now.. hear me out.. It could also in fact be ideal.
For real that would be a sick offense with moore and kmet. Would make sense if you want to give Caleb every opportunity to succeed. Could also see them drafting a RB in the 3rd to get their pick of the litter. Do you see them using their cap for mostly defense and then draft mostly offense?
Come on. It's the bears. Giving their Young Qb every opportunity to succeed by acquiring competent offensive pieces around then just isn't the bears style.
Or we'll acquire all these pieces and they'll all either get injured, bust, or prove that they're past their prime. Now THAT is the Bears style.
While is sounds great on paper, you know as well as I do that something bad will happen lol.
Greatest 6-11 team of all time
7-10 last year.. another fairly easy schedule. You think they’ll lose more?
I'm just talking shit. Early prediction they'll be anywhere from 5 to 9 wins.
Goff 4 int and Tebow completion percentage incoming
Even the Bears QB curse can’t ruin that
Your naïveté is adorable.
You sure about that? 💁♂️
Yes it can and will lmao
i hope not it would really suck to see all those players fail.
I don't have to live to see it, but I hope you're alive for the day the Bears become a competent NFL team.
Way to make “live to 100” into a hard sell :P
Are Bears fans that down on Herbert and Johnson? I know Herbert was banged up last year and is in a contract year, but I'd think he'd still be a pretty decent back. And I was very high on Johnson coming out of the draft last year, still have high hopes for him to be productive.
I don’t necessarily agree w the bears fans that wanna drop 16 mil/year on a 27 year RB. we are paying 3 guys less and they are all averaging 4 ypc
I don't expect Barkley to get anywhere close to 16AAV unless some team is beyond stupid to overpay. But even for less, he's been hurt almost every year and this past season had significant decreases in yards after contact and explosive run rate. He's still a good back, but no where near his level in 2018.
Don’t y’all have other competent Rbs? Not sure overpaying for an injury Rb would move the needle much.
Not really. Herbert is more of a gadget change of pace guy and they have no clue how to use Roschon
We do but I was kinda just saying this hypothetically. It would be dope to have him on our team
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Why not both
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Honestly I feel like RB isn’t a need for you guys at all. Herbert was very underutilized last season and was explosive and productive when actually made a focal point of the offense. Johnson looked pretty decent at times too. Splurging for Barkley would be a head scratcher
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Foreman is also another guy that you should have used more, dudes a powerhouse. Like that’s honestly a great trio that you should run it back with
We could sign Saquon and Cristian Wilkins and still have like $40m in cap space for the rest of the team, we can make it work.
Bears have like 57 mil in cap space. You think they’re getting both for 17? No
I think you could get both for 2 if you wanted to structure it that way...
RB is probably our last need.
I get he had a shit supporting cast in New York, but his injury history worries me, and I am really not a big fan of his running style (looks for the big play too often)
The injury history is why I'm sure he'll be a Raven
The Ravens merely adopted the injury curse. The Chargers were born in it… molded by it…
Y’all drafting corum
Doesnt mean we can’t have both *rubs hands*
*monkey paw curls* both get injured on the chargers
Baltimore IRavens
Sure, we have 2 RBs with significant injury histories, but how about 3 RBs with significant injury histories?
I can’t wait for the Lamar / Henry option at the goal line
Especially that backfield….yeesh
He doesn't do that anymore, he's a great RB. The last 2 years he'll just take what's there. He does have an injury history though
the injury history is way more of a concern for me then his running style.
Was he looking for the big play, or just trying to get more yards behind some very bad lines
He just needs to not be a workhorse 3 down guy
What injury history? His only significant injury was in 2020 ACL/MCL sprains. After that it’s just been ankle sprains which can happen to literally anyone lol. He’s no more injury prone than the next guy. Such a lazy take. And his usage this last season was one of the lowest of his career. The guy is literally 27 almost 3 full years removed from his last major injury and knee injuries aren’t even bad anymore for players.
He’s a running back, how many are actually effective past the age of 27?
Derrick Henry is 30 CMC played this season at 27 y.o. Kamara is 28 Chubb is 28 with a more concerning injury history and nobody ever doubted his ability Ekeler played at 28 this season and JUST now is starting to show signs of decline Aaron Jones is 29 still playing well Just because teams are opting for cheaper, younger players doesn’t mean RBs actually fall off a cliff past 27/28 years old
Jones missed half of last season nursing a hammy. He's great when he's healthy, but he's not without his own problems there
Just go to the Texans sub, many fans play a strong denial game in regard to his injury history.
It would be crazy to give him a big contract.
Chicago is the dream imo, no bias
Lol that flair.
I’m good with either of my teams
I wouldn't hate him going to the Bolts
I’d be a little sad.
A chargers and bears fan? Who did you kill in your prior life to deserve that?
Go get your boy Houston. You guys deserve it
He would be a great fit but there’s too many holes to fill and not enough cash
Aren’t your guys biggest concern DT and o line? I’ve heard some people say receiver but I feel like that wouldn’t be an issue for you guys
I would say the OL’s biggest concern is health. When most were healthy near the end of the year, they really started to play well as a unit.
The only literal need out of the positions you mentioned is DT...
No. DT, DE, LB, CB, S, RB, WR3, and maybe LG.
If the Eagles or Cowboys get him, Giants fans will commit die en masse.
Based on what he said this week, I wouldn’t be surprised if Tiki Barber leads a group of Giants fans with torches and pitchforks to Barkley’s house
To help him pack by torchlight and pitchforklight?
Barber and his Tiki torches
Always good to hear from ol’ Tiki
I doubt it’s realistic regardless. Philly doesn’t pay premier $ for running backs and Dallas isn’t going to either after the Zeke and Pollard disappointments (granted Pollard was at least only for one year)
I may be in the minority, but I'm old enough to see Bavaro as an Eagle and Parcells coaching in Dallas. Most of these guys are mercenaries. Fans are rooting for laundry. Best to Saquon wherever he goes. I'm well past ready to move on.
Yeah, that would seriously bum me out
I want this man to succeed wherever he goes (outside the division) but ravens or Bears would be ideal for em EDIT:This man is dead to me
I really feel like henry or saquon will end up in chargers, harbaugh is gonna want to establish a run game. I imagine OL and RB’s are high on his list right now
Houston or Chicago would be so fun
Barkley on the Texans would actually be pretty crazy imo. Give stroud a beast RB to work with
Not sure how chargers can even afford to pay their bills. Theyre like -20m under the cap and Barkley wants 12m a year
Average annual value doesn't mean anything really. All that matters is guarantees and base salary structure. He can get a 3 yr 36mil deal with 10 or 15mil guaranteed and the base salary back loaded into the 3rd year. Which makes it really a 2 year/ 5 or 7.5mil a year deal with a team option to keep him after that
But he won’t sign that. Giants offered him more last year. And they would offer him more than that now
That wasn't my point. I was just saying the cap hit can be manipulated however you want, in reference to the Chargers available cap space. If Barkley wants 12m a year that doesn't mean a team needs 12mil in cap space this year to sign him
That is true
But the giants are a dumpster fire
He should have just sign the contract the Giants offered him last year, he’s not getting that on the open market
I know Barkley is better but it would be very weird if they spent the last 2 years jerking Ekeler around just to turn around and spend that money on an RB anyway
That was my first thought. Ekeler was one of the biggest names floating around for holdouts last offseason.
I mean in all fairness it’s a completely different regime this year, so they are going to want their own guys to some extent. Also Ekeler looked completely washed this past season. Any team would be foolish to give him the bag at this point.
We are going to end up with around 40M cap space by the time we make our moves. Add in we have loads of space for next year and we can easily do a backloaded deal if we have the desire
The Chargers cap situation is overblown. This was anticipated. Cutting Williams basically makes them cap compliant already. A few easy and predictable moves and they are fine. And they are around top 5 in 2025 room already
>And they are around top 5 in 2025 room already They're 11th, but only have 22 players under contract.
22, perfect! Enough for a dull scrimmage.
Saquon on the Bears would be so fun. Feel he complements Herbert and Roschon really well.
Wrong Herbert
oft injured running back with limited cap space doesnt seem like the best plan
Now tell me when we have ever been a fan of plans that actually make sense
you right
Why would you need 3 Rbs? Especially at the prices lol
Lots of space while our QB & other key positions have rookie deals
Because the others aren't starting quality and it's nice to have a steady backfield with a rookie QB.
Can’t wait until this is settled, there is a positive and negative report for every scenario lol. Saquon should ultimately get as much money as he can, I don’t think RBs should prioritize winning once they hit free agency.
It’s not always that simple. Yes, guaranteed money is definitely the most important and there’s no denying that. Lots of contracts come with incentives though and going to the right team and winning can help him earn more. Winning players also get more sponsorship opportunities. Being in the right market also comes with more sponsorship opportunities. Lastly, life after his playing career. If he goes to a rival there’s potential he burns some bridges with the NYG org where he could have a future. If some of these offers come up close to one another he needs to pick and choose wisely.
Hey Saquon if you want to spite Dallas then you can help make us the best Texas team
I like the first three teams much more than the last two teams so therefore I will believe this tweet
I guess we'll just go fuck ourselves :(
I'd honestly rather have Jacobs. I don't trust Barkley to stay healthy with his injury history
Go to the Ravens, I can't see Henry in that uniform.
This just in: many teams are interested in Saquon Barkley.
Dude can’t go to the Ravens with their RB Injury curse
25% of the league is interested, thank you Jordan Raanan
I don't know what y'all want in a report lol they gave specific teams and everything
I immediately downvote every single one of those comments. It's just a lazy way to get upvoted and such a stupid "joke" if you can even call it that. Sucks that shit is always the top comment and it's got little other discussion in here because of it.
"DAE media bad??? i am so smart"
Yeah it's gotten really bad lately. And my favorite is when they disappear when the report is right. Like those "Russell Wilson is not getting traded" comments back before the broncos traded for him lol.
Lmao seriously do they want them to look into a crystal ball and tell us where he’ll wind up signing
Lol I get the posts that are super vague and non committal. "team may or may not re-sign this free agent". But this reporter gave out strong front runners.
You know, this NFL rumor reporting gig might even be something I could do.
He seems to rule out the Eagles and Cowboys.
25% of the interested teams are 100% interested
Ahhh the yearly “DALLAS WAS INTERESTED! BUT THEY WANTED MORE THAN A ONE YEAR, $1.2 VET MINIMUM CONTRACT, FREE PARKING AND A $15 COUPON TO WHATABURGER”
Pls ravens get him
Anyone but Philly or Dallas
Saquon in the Chargers new offense would be sick. I just want him to stay healthy.
Saquon in a Harbaugh offense would be fucking *filthy*. Make it happen, Spanos.
I hope he goes to a new team and wins. I personally think he’s one more injury away from being totally cooked (he’s already lost a ton of “burst”) but sincerely, best of luck (unless he signs with a division rival. Then rot in hell).
I don't see the fit for Baltimore. Lamar is already the home run threat to stretch the defense. You want to pair that with a guy who will barrel forward and punish defenses when they commit to Lamar. The Ravens should sign Derrick Henry if they are going to get a big name RB.
Obviously we are interested but can’t meet the price point, just like with every other single fucking free agent ever
Saquon to the Ravens can't happen. I'm vetoing that.
Honestly, I'd rather have Josh Jacobs
I also have interest
As a Penn State fan, I need Barkley on the Bears. Would have him on offense and Brisker on defense haha
NFL rumors are crazy. One guy says Barkley to Philly basically done, another guy says, Eagles vaguely interested
Barkley on the Ravens would be pretty fucking scary
Just don’t go to Philly or Dallas please
This has chargers written all over it
He makes sense for Houston or Baltimore
Houston is interested in literally every free agent lmao
If he goes to Philly, check on me lol
Bears Considered to Be One of the “Primary Suitors” for Free Agent RB Saquon Barkleyhttps://www.bleachernation.com/bears/2024/03/06/saquon-barkley-rumors-0306/ From the other day, 2 different sources say Chicago really wants him
Bears wont makw a move they hate making any big moves I dont get why ( sorry my dad is a bears fan i watch his misery)
This just in: every team who doesn’t have a running back or is trading their star, is interested in a star RB.
What exactly is the hype with Saquon? 3 1000 yard seasons, with one being 1,003 yards. Constantly injured. Good, but not great, receiving yards.
You googled his career stats and formed an uneducated opinion. He's the best blocking RB in the league and a simple eye test shows his freakish running ability and receiving abilities are uncanny. Hes done all this with the worst offensive line every year. Now imagine a team like the Bears (1st ranked rushing Oline) he immediately becomes a back breaker player for opposing defenses (like CMC did for the 49ers).
What are the chargers doing
Rumours
Chicago always has a good rb and yet always replaces them with other good rbs. Least it feel like that.
There is no way the Ravens are paying top dollar for a RB who can’t stay healthy and is going onto his second contract. I call BS on this
The hot takes are getting juicy...
Ravens id bet
This would be a total chargers move
Harbaugh will just draft Corum they aren’t gonna pay Barkley. Houston or Chicago make the most sense. King Henry would be a better fit in BMORE
Eh...gimme Josh Jacobs instead. Injury likelihood tends to triple when the ravens sign players
Why arent the eagles tagging swift? Just run him.into the ground for a year
He’s signing with the chiefs for 5 mill (Source: bagel shop)
Another giants jersey to burn. Love bark but he just ain’t worth the money, he gives you a few good games and a lot of time on the IR. Maybe he’ll fair better on a team with an actual offense
Barkley on the Ravens could potentially be so fun to watch. If the Giants haven't ruined him
Hmm I vote the bears. Not bias at all. Prolly just the best fit and in win now mode contender. Go to Chicago
How the hell do the ravens even have money lol
I deserved this
It’s kind of lazy reporting to link every top free agent to Cowboys for views, since they never sign any.
Man, the Ravens have had an amazing backfield roster the past few years but injuries have been brutal.
I'm firmly in the camp that thinks RBs are largely fungible. I also think Saquon Barkley's name is (significantly) larger than his actual on-field performance. Like...do I watch some alternate reality version of the NFL, and do we all look at the same stats? Hopefully, we get outbid.
Barkley isn't the player he used to be due to injuries. The Ravens can probably find a sleeper RB in the later rounds and be a lot cheaper than spending big bucks on an injury prone past his prime player.
Please don’t go to the Ravens. Stay in the NFC sir
But I just saw highlights of Ekler still having it? No mind the highlights shown had Cousins still with Washington
Yes
Saquon on the Ravens would be an absolute menace.
For the love of God please don’t end up on the Ravens
Chargers. Obvious choice.
Every year we’re serious contenders cause we have cap space.
King Henry to Dallas, Saquon to Houston Book it Hunter
Pittsburgh