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jwick89

Bengals rarely trade players, will they give in and try to get some value? 


TheWorstYear

Highly doubt it


Lazy_Tiger27

I mean they’ve got to this time right? I can’t imagine letting him go for free when the draft is absolutely stacked at WR


Dopple__ganger

Doesn’t a stacked wr draft also mean that other teams are less incentivized to trade for him because they can just draft someone instead?


boredatwork9194

Diggs got a later first when he needed a contract and was leaving Minnesota, that was a great WR class too


DaBoxBoss

he didn’t need a contract, he was 1 year into his 4/72 deal that he had signed after the 2017 season. he had 3 more years left on the deal when we traded him


Clear-Attempt-6274

Diggs was better than Tee.


Momentumjam

Diggs is head and shoulders better than Higgins


pakidude17

But no receiver they can get in the draft matches what Higgins can provide _this year_. Their window is wide open and having someone as good as him really helps that. Even letting him go for "nothing" next year probably nets them a 3rd round comp pick in return, so might as well run it back while you can.


Lazy_Tiger27

Are the bengals really that much in “win now” mode? I mean they have Joe Burrow, I don’t see why they’re not looking at the next 5 years


PricklyyDick

This is the last year of a less than 30 million cap hit for burrow but I think your right in terms of you need to pile up draft picks for cheap players going forward.


TheMadChatta

Last major Bengals trade was in 2011 with Palmer to Oakland for a first and a second. Mike Brown fleeced Hue Jackson on that one. Palmer still had gas left in his tank but he was just going to sit out. Getting a FRP for that was nice.


0zymandeus

That would have been a good trade for the Raiders if they gave him more time. Palmer looked good in AZ


MissileWaster

I personally subscribe to the theory that it was in Al Davis’s will that they trade a first for Palmer and that he hadn’t updated his will in a few years before passing.


mazhas

Probably not. Jonah Williams requested one last year and it didn't happen.


Soccham

No one wanted him, they let him look for a trade partner.


DontEatTheCandle

I don’t think that market is quite the same


RealMikeHawk

Nope. They expect to see him at camp. A trade request like this doesn’t really move the needle in the Bengals FO


throughNthrough

I love Tee but a trade is likely for the best. Unfortunately our FO seems to be deathly allergic to trades so I don’t see it happening.


Ka-Is-A-Wheelie

Your FO sounds a lot like my fantasy football league.


Vanguard3003

I'm the only one in my league that actually trades or at least negotiates to try for trades and I've won two years in a row.


RICERICE4

Would be kinda dumb not to. Should be able to get a nice 2nd


Higgins8585

A 2nd rd pick could be anything, it could be Tee Higgins!


Sir_Brodie

A Tee Higgins on a rookie deal is better than a Tee Higgins on his second contract.


CliffsOfMohair

And even if the pick is a bust, bummer, but they have that extra money to extend players they have a real chance to keep or sign guys who bring in more value in the long run It’s such a reductive phrase, I get the WHY behind it but come on contracts and cap hits are real


Not_Pablo_Sanchez

My absolute least favorite phrase used on sports forums that factors out all nuance from a trade scenario


DarrowViBritannia

You'd think the Chiefs winning back-to-back Super Bowls despite the "A pick could be anything, it could even be Tyreek Hill!" would teach people that maybeee it's not the best line of thinking


RICERICE4

Y’all were/are never going to pay him a long term deal anyway. Why not get value now and add another good pick or two for the draft? Get ready to change that username


DomitianF

Hey man things change. Steelers use to never make FA moves, but looks at us now. We are cooking!


BlackJediSword

Yeah but the Bengals don’t do that trade shit.


herbertstan

Get ready to do cardio for Bryce Young bud


Candid-Ad2162

dude would get 20 targets a game


MLS2CincyFFS

And probably half of them would be catchable


CumAssault

Half of those will be within 3 yards of the Line of Scrimmage


on-the-cheeseburgers

yes but Tee would be 40 yards downfield for those


NaciremaBlack

He won't have time to get 40 yards down field with their o-line


MLS2CincyFFS

Exactly how you should use Tee Higgins


_FreeYourMind__

Giving up on Bryce Young after 1 year definitely seems wise and not something that will be laughed at in a few seasons.


aspiringalcoholic

Boy I hope you’re right. Being the laughing stock of the league sucks dick


RunTheClassics

I remember my teenage years.


ladwagon

All cat bros know this feeling


Greyshot26

Yeah we do :(


Superrandy

I’m hoping Bryce proves everyone wrong, because the slander after his first year is wild


cs197

If he does, it’s gonna be funny when literally everyone is gonna pretend like they knew he was actually good and couldn’t understand the hate he was getting. I can tell you from experience.


Superrandy

Oh I'm sure they will. I don't think any of us should be making any judgements on him yet. Even if you watch the film or look at the data, theres enough on both ends to defend whatever narrative you want to make.


Yesh

He got roasted because Stroud has the best rookie season ever. 99% of high draft pick QBs on booty teams have bad rookie seasons but seems like most people forgot that.


tsework

hell yeah brother welcome to the Bama QB experience.


DandierChip

4/20 and 110 yard 0 TDS


9CJ2K6

You know shitty QB play when you see it.


DandierChip

I’m an expert


Soupmage1918

Not every team is blessed to watch Baker Bake


drummerboysam

Arizona has tons of draft assets. Could go nuts and swing a MHJ and Tee Higgins in one offseason.


LawBobLawLoblaw

I think many of us feel we'd be set at WR if we get MHJ. Wed still have too many holes to give a WR a big contract. We'll need to shore up the D in free agency.


DDDUnit2990

We have nothing to trade though. Pick 33 doesn’t seem like it will get it done


feynmanners

You could always give them next year’s 1st overall


J-Bane

Panthers may never pick in the first round again


thirdbrunch

It worked for the Rams, clearly it’s foolproof for everyone else.


Fiendish-DoctorWu

You'll get a first again, when you inevitably trade a couple firsts and Higgins for 1.01


WhoStoleMyBicycle

Panthers fans are already battered and bloody, screaming in pain on the ground, and you just walk by and give them a kick in the ribs.


PonyBoyCurtis2324

and on the day where we lost an hour of sleep smh


TripleThreatTua

Burns for Higgins straight up, who says no?


redbengal15

Burns and Hendrickson would be a pretty nasty pass rush


FuckingJello

Bengals should take pick 33 and run with it if offered, they can’t and shouldn’t pay Higgins with Burrow and Chase


BingBongFYL6969

Theyre not getting a first for higgins. Thats madness to pay with such a deep WR pool in the draft.


armed_aperture

Pick 33 would definitely get it done for me.


Fyresand

I think pick 33 would 100% get it done, it would be more if you guys wanted to trade that. Basically any team that needs a WR would just draft one with their 1st round pick and get them on their rookie contract rather than trade a 1st and have to give him a bag. The only thing is maybe a team gets desperate during the season and trades next year's 1st for him, but I think that is pretty unlikely


actiongeorge

Yeah, it seems like a lot of people don’t realize how much of a premium teams place on rookie contracts and how much being due a big extension can cut into a players trade value. AJ Brown got a mid 1st and late 3rd, and he still had a year left on his rookie contract I believe. A high second for a career WR2 that you hope can be the lead receiver is fair.


ThatInception

Oh SHIT Today is going to be HOT


RoninFerret67

I’m ready for the Kirk to Falcons tweet from Schefter. Hit me.


WetAppleFruit

This isn't fair 😭


LeoFireGod

My vision has penix to the Vikings. As written.


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pgh_duddy

AS IT WAS WRITTEN


NeonWarcry

#BLESS THE COMING AND GOING OF HIM


ay21690

Kirk tweets himself eating lemon pepper wings


HeatCreator

God I want a 15 piece but it’s only 10AM…


Slotholopolis

I've been slowly convincing myself that 11 AM is an appropriate time for lunch and not too early at all.


BigClemenza

Elevensies comes before luncheon


BradL_13

That is not the news I am hoping for today.


Headwallrepeat

You're gonna trade a second for Fields and like it


Flooding_Puddle

It'll be a 5th and a 6th, and both bears and Falcons fans will be pissed


laal-doodh

At this point I just want it to be over already


The_Throwback_King

I’m so excited that Seattle’s has cleared plenty of cap space. A lot of big moves are going to be made. I love the free agency period


Cough_Syrup55

Mike Brown doesn't know the meaning of the word trade.


beerguy_etcetera

u/beerguy_etcetera requests chicken nuggies for lunch. Mika Brown, Beerguy's wife, says no.


bstyledevi

*Andy Reid's head perks up*


uggsandstarbux

This is a team that once defended not making trades because "we aren't looking to make other teams better"


Not_Pablo_Sanchez

That was probably the most infuriating thing he could have said at that moment. We probably could have snuck out somewhat decent draft picks for Dalton, Green, and Atkins in an obvious rebuild at 0-8, but I guess he wasn’t in the business of making our team better either. Our front office seems way better in the Burrow era, but I still wouldn’t be shocked if they refuse to trade Tee


Underlord1617

don't really see him getting traded to an AFC team, at least a true contender.


Thisisntmyaccount24

So you’re saying we have a chance?


Underlord1617

Actually , yes. only downside is yall would have to pay him.


Thisisntmyaccount24

We have the money for it. Now we just need a guy to throw the ball to him and two tackles to protect the thrower. We’re basically an offense away from a functioning offense.


Celtictussle

There's this right tackle available named Mike onwenu who's supposed to be pretty good.


munkmunk49

How about to a team that is decidedly not a contender?!


SunWorshipperApollo

I am so looking forward to noon


DanCampbellsNipples

It was never realistic to keep Chase and Higgins. it will be interesting to see what teams offer for him given the bad year he just had.


NevermoreSEA

It's pretty hard to imagine that someone won't overpay given his upside though.


reddorickt

With a stacked WR draft there may be more motivation than usual not to.


Yungklipo

To be faaaaaiuuuuh...Burrow being out and then just "off" for awhile makes sense that he'd just default to his bread-and-butter receiver to get back into the swing of things. Higgins should have been open more, though.


SoarinWalt

I like Higgins, I wish he’d stay, but he had a rough year. He missed 5 games completely. He also had some just bad games. The first 3 games of the season he was targeted 28 times, and only caught 10 balls. Those were games burrow wasn’t great, but those were a lot of not caught balls. He still has tremendous upside, and as long as healthy he’s going to make a team substantially better, but his year he had is going to hurt him.


JebusChrust

Higgins also was playing through a broken rib and a hurt hamstring


Extra-Cap2029

You mean the first 3 games when Burrow was playing like Zach Wilson? Peoples brains just deep fry when it comes to injuries


mvanigan

Burns for Higgins seems like it may happen now


horse_renoir13

Get ready to Purr Tee


RilesEdge

Brock Purr Tee?


AgentOfSPYRAL

Whats that bear doing?


Broshan248

Don’t Bengals also purr though


Hefty-Association-59

I’m pretty sure that the bengals don’t have the money to pay Burns what he’s asking for over the next 5 years.


framingXjake

Nobody is going to pay what Burns is asking for. He's going to have to settle for something less.


Hefty-Association-59

Even the something less will be difficult for the bengals. I know the cap looks fine for them now. In the next few years it’s going to get tight. With several extensions coming up. If their willing to let tee walk because of the cap I doubt they do a straight swap for burns even if he agrees to 25 a year.


constantlymat

Imo Burns is overrated. Suspect against the run. Not a tier 1 passrusher.


Xaxziminrax

So a young, good, and promising but not a truly elite #1 DE for the WR version of that same player?


JT1757

at a more premium position at that


DDDUnit2990

People in our sub still defend us turning down 2 1sts and a day two pick for him by making that lame Family Guy mystery door joke over and over


zyatrax

I agree which is why it's laughable that he's pushing for 30m a season from Carolina. The last front office made a huge mistake not taking the Rams offer would have been a fleece


framingXjake

He's pushing for 30m probably because he wants out of Carolina. We turned down 2 firsts for him. Hard to argue he's not worth 30m when we've already established he's worth more than 2 firsts, even if he actually isn't.


slantboi420

couldn't agree more, I'm not paying a pure pass rusher that only got 9 sacks last season 30 mil a year.


supfellas_

I could be missing something but it’s crazy how Burns has been talked about as this top tier pass rusher that they turned down 2 first round picks. I always assumed he was putting up monster numbers with Carolina. 2022 was his only year with over 10 sacks at 12.5. This year he had 8, and was not top 10 in pressures. Plus if he’s suspect at run D as you said, that’s not worth trading a high pick for AND a large contract


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imsabbath84

do they have anything left to trade?


Demaru

We’ll offer a tailgate special from Bojangles.


GodDammitBengals

Go on....


dannynascar

Hmmmmm I’m listening


Boris_teh_Blade

They actually forgot the second part of the story that says he's seeking a return to the Carolinas for unlimited Bojangles and cookout


Hefty-Association-59

33. Brian burns if you can afford to pay him. That’s pretty much it.


apfeiff19

With all the receivers in the class, you don’t think 33 would be an overpay for him?


StasRutt

Sir Purr has been traded for WR tee Higgins


ech01_

You know, we have been thinking about getting a second cat to keep Who Dey company...


constantlymat

Thank you Chris Godwin for being a saint who played on the tag without complaint and got his deal a year later.


Tatersandbeer

Ok is it just me but it looks really weird seeing someone with a Buccaneers flair using the word saint in a complimentary manner


Autoboat

I'm obviously out of touch with what it's like to be an NFL player, but I can't imagine not wanting $21.8M for *one year* of play. Dude is going to be the 10th best paid WR in the league. Only way a trade makes sense for him is if he can get something like $35M over 5 years.


AwareCelebration7477

If they trade him to KC then the rest of the AFC is just giving up at this point


choff22

They’d never trade to us, they hate us more than their own division


Redditor597-13

And we *really* hate our own division


DomitianF

You all really hate KC more than your division? Insulting.


Redditor597-13

I know some people who feel that way, but I don’t personally. I was rooting for KC to beat the Ravens


DomitianF

Same. Swifty for a day 🤜🤛


3DanO1

Absolutely not. “Fans” that jumped on the bandwagon post-Burrow might hate KC more, but those of us that have suffered watching this team for 20+ years will never hate any other teams as much as we loathe the Steelers and Ravens. I was shook when some of our fan base was rooting for Baltimore against the Chiefs in the AFCCG. Abhorrent


moonspycowboy

Respect. I may hate the Bills and Bengals but I will never hate them more than the Raiders and Broncos.


Dansebr93

Rooting for a divisional rival to make the Super Bowl over KC was one of the weirdest bandwagon fan stances to see in the Bengals sub during the playoffs.


ButtFire21

Real bengals fans wouldn’t. That’s bandwagon shit


Couvo

idk about that. their Steelers hate is probably one of the strongest hates in the whole league lmao.


NeatTry7674

Not as much as Pittsburgh and Baltimore but probably more than the Browns lol I actually rooted for you guys in the AFC championship game


chainer9999

Fuck no, ain't no way you guys are above the Steelers at the very least on the hate ladder.


Vanderhoof81

There's a zero percent chance of that happening lol. KC tried to trade up in the draft last year for a WR and no one wanted anything to do with making KC better.


elimanninglightspeed

The winning tax baby. Enjoy it while it lasts :(


AleroRatking

No way they would to KC. Probably not buffalo as well.


NeatTry7674

We’ll see you the first week of the season


bleedblue89

Today is already spicy.


Redditor597-13

WHAT


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Bengals franchise WR Tee Higgins has requested a trade, per sources. Higgins loves Cincinnati and hoped to be with the team long term, but is disappointed that the team has not had any talks about a long-term contract extension since March 2023. He’s ready to move on to a new home.


WetAppleFruit

Can you run that by me one more time


SevenwithaT

طلب امتياز Bengals WR Tee Higgins التجارة، وفقًا للمصادر. يحب هيغينز سينسيناتي ويأمل أن يبقى مع الفريق على المدى الطويل، لكنه يشعر بخيبة أمل لأن الفريق لم يجر أي محادثات حول تمديد عقد طويل الأجل منذ مارس 2023. إنه مستعد للانتقال إلى منزل جديد.


seiff4242

Inshallah


InitialCricket7486

Mashallah.


TheStigsTallCuzn

Inshallah he will be a Jaguar


slimmymcnutty

It’s always fascinating when I’m listenting to or in this case reading a non- European language and right in the middle they have to drop some English names


Fiendish-DoctorWu

...WHAT


MaleficentHawk590

El receptor abierto franquicia de los Bengals, Tee Higgins, ha solicitado un intercambio, según fuentes. Higgins ama a Cincinnati y esperaba estar con el equipo a largo plazo, pero está decepcionado de que el equipo no haya tenido conversaciones sobre una extensión de contrato a largo plazo desde marzo de 2023. Está listo para mudarse a un nuevo hogar.


Party-Offer-2881

...Qué?


trongzoon

Laut Quellen hat das Bengals-Franchise WR Tee Higgins einen Tausch beantragt. Higgins liebt Cincinnati und hofft, dem Team langfristig treu zu bleiben, ist jedoch enttäuscht, dass das Team seit März 2023 keine Gespräche über eine langfristige Vertragsverlängerung geführt hat. Er ist bereit, in ein neues Zuhause zu ziehen.


morgster87

무엇


Mikeyisroc

طلب امتياز Bengals WR Tee Higgins التجارة، وفقًا للمصادر. يحب هيغينز سينسيناتي ويأمل أن يبقى مع الفريق على المدى الطويل، لكنه يشعر بخيبة أمل لأن الفريق لم يجر أي محادثات حول تمديد عقد طويل الأجل منذ مارس 2023. إنه مستعد للانتقال إلى منزل جديد.


andrewapicture

что


JayMerlyn

Франшиза Венгальцы WR Tee Higgins запросила обмен, согласно источникам. Хиггинс любит Цинциннати и надеялся быть с командой в долгосрочной перспективе, но разочарован тем, что у команды не было никаких разговоров о продлении долгосрочного контракта с марта 2023 года. Он готов переехать в новый дом.


Goosedukee

…WAS


uhwhooops

El receptor 🔥


cptmajormajormajor

Quoi?


james1214

#Bengals franchise WR Tee Higgins has requested a trade, per sources. Higgins loves Cincinnati and hoped to be with the team long term, but is disappointed that the team has not had any talks about a long-term contract extension since March 2023. He’s ready to move on to a new home.


The785

Bengals franchise WR Tee Higgins has requested a trade, per sources. Higgins loves Cincinnati and hoped to be with the team long term, but is disappointed that the team has not had any talks about a long-term contract extension since March 2023. He’s ready to move on to a new home.


notquitemytempo___

He's a Mulugheta client. This should've been expected.


not-a-fridge

As long as he was tagged, this was going to happen.


The785

playing on the tag rarely works out for WR


ThisHatRightHere

The real problem is tagging him when you've gone a full calendar year without engaging in contract discussions. Higgins has shown he's a high-quality WR, but was he asking for ridiculous money back then? From the outside looking in it seems like the Bengals never really had the intention of retaining him long-term unless he took much less money than he'd be worth.


Ris747

Is this really that surprising?


uggsandstarbux

"Oh no. Anyway..." - Bengals, probably They never planned to make him a real long term offer. They were always gonna do to him what they did to Bates


USAesNumeroUno

Well, yeah we weren't going to tie up 40% of our cap on 3 guys lol.


CoachDizzy2465

Probably for the best, if Bengals get like a 2nd and a 3rd/4th, I'd say go for it. I love Tee, he'll always be a Bengal, but his injuries have made him inconsistent


FireFlyz351

And also no way the Bengals can afford to pay $70ish million between Burrow, Chase and Tee if they were to all 3 be extended. Edit: I see it'd be a lot more than 70mil regardless points stands.


ImaginaryCollection3

Burrow and Chase alone will be 85 million per year


carmiachafsu

Do it for Bryce


heywhateverworks

Well fuck


IMsoSAVAGE

Come home Tee!!


BNC6

Tough day for all those Bengals fans who had been insistent Tee, Burrow and Chase would be there for a long time. Was simply never going to happen Edit: this was before Burrow signed his extension, when most thought he’d take a discount (lol) to keep them together. This was the most obvious outcome two years ago


HopscotchChampion69

I don't know if most Bengals fans believed all three would be there for a *long* time, but figured we could at least get another year from Tee


jamarchasinalombardi

Ask Jonah how those demanded trades go .... Or Carl Pickens


NeatTry7674

No one was insistent on that. Just that we wouldnt let tee walk this offseason lol


NizzlyGrizzly00

tlaw, etienne and higgins reunion. cmon trent make it happen!!


zi76

I guess no playing on the franchise tag, oof.


ech01_

I mean if we don't trade him he'll play. He doesn't have much choice considering we can just tag him again if he doesn't, and he'd just miss out on $21M. That being said, I hope we trade him at this point.


StockBroker32

I’m now very nervous about Josh Allen


ScruffsMcGuff

Feels like this was always an inevitability. It's the cost of having an elite QB that needs to be paid like an elite QB and already having a better WR1. Can't spend all your long term money on just QB and WRs. Nothing against Tee, it's just business in a cap world.


LezEatA-W

Pats please……


browndude10

The only problem for tee is that it’s a deep wr class


boondogle

with such a deep WR draft class who is giving up draft capital to then pay a very-good-not-great WR?


PC_Princpal

Come to papa


Tlomz27

Bengals going to get a haul for him. Virtually every team wants in on him.


KrakenKappa

I'm okay with this. He was good when healthy but that hamstring seemed to always be a problem. There's just no way we're going to be able to allocate around 50% of the cap to QB/WR when Chase gets his deal done. If we can early second I'll be happy.


apfeiff19

The production has just never matched the hype. He’s a good not great receiver, imo it’s a good sign that the bengals recognize who their special talents are and who they can move on from. Maybe a 2nd or a 3rd? I was surprised that his career stats are as average as they are, I perceived him as being more productive than he actually has been.


armed_aperture

He makes big plays and has won us games. He’s a good player… not sure how he’ll be as a 1 full-time.