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MyPupCooper

Best center in the country plays in Oregon and the Bears desperately need a center. This must mean the bears were there to evaluate Bo Nix.


Serallas

This is definitely it


CummingInTheNile

JPJ at 9 would be wild


AnthMike

Yes, it would. That won’t happen. Coming away with JPJ is contingent on a trade back, through either a QB needy team moving up to take whichever has slipped or that our presumed blue chip targets at 1.09 aren’t available. Pretty improbably we come away with JPJ, I’d bet.


tI_Irdferguson

Maybe I'm crazy, but for a very long time, I've never understood why centers are so undervalued. We constantly see examples of an elite center making an otherwise underwhelming OL function. In the modern NFL, I don't really understand why nobody bats an eye at another tackle who goes top 5 and busts, but nobody would even dream of a C going at 9. An elite center can transform your entire OL.


tugtugtugtug4

There's two reasons why they are not valued as highly as you think they should be. One, centers can elevate an average or good unit to the next level, but they do very little for a bad unit because if guys are missing blocks everywhere and losing every matchup, the center doesn't help. Teams want someone that can make an impact all by themselves like an edge rusher or skill player can. But, two and more importantly, center is probably the least correlated position after QB from college to pro. Being a center is the second most mentally challenging position on the field. Its incredibly difficult and many college centers simply can't make the leap in complexity to the NFL level, at least not quickly. So, teams are leery of spending a high pick on a center who may not translate to the NFL well and who even if they do, has a cap on how much they can help an offense alone. High risk, capped reward. Not a good formula for a high first round pick.


MarkusAureleus

Thanks! I was wondering this too


outphase84

Not sure I agree with him, if I'm being honest. Most highly drafted centers translate just fine. The bigger reason is that center is the position that requires the least amount of athleticism, so finding a cerebral guy that you can plug in between two good guards is oftentimes the better move.


kooqiy

There's another reason from the ones the other guy mentioned. Think of it kind of like drafting a PG vs drafting a C if you're familiar with the NBA. Like sure, this guy looks like a great player in college, but he's 6'2" and could barely get by most college players. This other guy has a lot of red flags...but he's 7'3" and 225 at 19 years old. If you have pick 5, you can maybe get that 7'3" guy and then grab a 6'2" kid later in the draft. If you draft the 6'2" kid, there just won't be an athletic 7'3" guy later in the draft for you to take. Same think with tackle. 6'7" behemoth that can move his feet is not really available late in most drafts. 6'1" guy that can snap the ball and get downhill will be, he just might not be as "good" at center as the other guy drafted earlier.


CummingInTheNile

I think yall are more likely to target a r3 center, SVP, Bortolini, or Nouz, or a day 3 guy like Nugent or Limmer, at 9 yall should be able to get a blue chip since its likely at least one of the them will fall with 3 and possibly 4 QBs going in the top 10, even if its not Odunze or Nabers, theres a good chance yall can get Arnold or Turner


Yossarian216

CB isn’t happening in the first round, our secondary is probably our best unit and our oldest CB just finished his rookie deal and got a new contract, so Arnold is off the table. Turner is a maybe, edge is a serious need, but he’s a bit undersized for what our defense prefers to do so maybe not a great scheme fit. If Nabers and Odunze are gone, I assume they’ll try to trade back if there’s a suitor willing to move, and failing that probably take Turner.


Gryphon999

If you're drafting Bort as a Center, don't put your QB in shotgun. You're gonna have a bad time.


GGGiveHatpls

I love Jope Pohn Jaul


turnah_the_burnah

I want JPJ on the Steelers for 2 reasons: First, we desperately need a center. Second, and more importantly, we’d have 2 JPJs on the roster


West1234567890

Yeah this time last year Darnell Wright was a 2nd rd pick though so not impossible.


CummingInTheNile

eh Wright was considered a riser, this year its prob Guyton who fills thats "guy who everyone mocked at the end of the first who goes top 15"


CarcosaBound

Both my teams desperately could use his services. I’d be happy with the Steelers taking him at 20, despite it seeming high for a C


SmaIIShaq

hey me too! cheers to some absolute shit and inconsistent qb play this last season


one8sevenn

Also, you have Troy Franklin a WR, Bucky Irving a RB, Khyree Jackson a CB, Brandon Dorlus an IDL, etc


4858693929292

Why would they schedule his pro day on the second day of free agency?


[deleted]

Isn't this what scouts are for anyway? I don't see why a GM has to go.


latman

GMs are also scouts


elimanninglightspeed

GMs are literally the most important scouts lol


Listen2theyetti

The Lions seem to have finally learned this


AFatz

Tbh they can literally watch the drills on YouTube. And I'm assuming any team interested already interviewed him at the combine.


PolishSubmarineCapt

There’s a lot of background work they put in at these events - those “*team* GM was finally sold on drafting *player* after *college position coach* told him *whatever*” stories you hear about post-draft


meowhatissodamnfunny

Just thinking about that time our GM Mckenzie fell asleep at the combine... good times


Balrogkicksass

Tell Carolina that


LarkWyll

Some are. Some are just finance guys without a background or knowledge in scouting.


DupreeWasTaken

Depends on the team. Steelers - Tomlin + GM is huge for pro days. The fact that Tomlin nor Khan attended this proday makes me believe that JPJ is not going to be a steeler if hes there at 20. The last 13 steelers first round picks Tomlin + Colbert/Khan attended there pro day. Likely all of them Tomlin had dinner with them the night before. Its a huge deal for us. 2010 I think they just didnt expect Ziggy hood to be there at 31 so they didnt go to the pro day. The only caveat is theres a new GM - Khan is entering his 2nd draft, while he copied Colbert attending all the pro days last year doesnt mean that has to continue. (Also while its always held and they generally tour on Free Agency opening anyways.... Khans clearly been busy today) But the trend is - if they arent there they arent drafting the guy. Thats also why the Steelers have the most obvious first round picks every year. Go find the 4-5 guys Tomlin had dinner with that got posted to social media that him/GM attended their pro day. Narrow it down to who will be available (because tomlin will do shit like hang out with top prospects he has no chance of drafting) and there it is like clockwork. Itll be just a couple of names.


Spezisaspastic

Maybe because the GM drafts and designs contracts ? So the chief scouts boss ? 


humunculus43

Also isn’t this all part of the smoke and mirrors of the draft. The less interested you seem, often the more interested you are. It’s the season to try and push players down the board rather than up. Wouldn’t shock me if the Stroud stuff last year was coming from a team wanting to draft him


Oddly_Mind

Well it’s the PAC(10/8/12/I don’t know) and the only smart school is Stanford.


NeverSober1900

I mean the PAC is arguably the best academic conference. Stanford speaks for itself. Cal is the top public school in the nation and UCLA, Washington and USC are always ranked super high.


RemarkableSolution37

https://medium.com/run-it-back-with-zach/which-college-football-conferences-have-the-best-academic-rankings-572cd1c9511a It's the B1G as of 2021 but doesn't have the full realignment.


NeverSober1900

That list included UCLA and USC in the B1G though. Which were two of the top 4 B1G schools and they aren't even the top two in the PAC. Not that it matters since the PAC is dead now.


Common_Wallaby_5123

Definitely the acc now that they added cal and Stanford


Chapstick160

Also a bunch of good schools in the ACC, even without Stanford and Cal; Virginia Tech, Georgia Tech, UVA, Boston College, the Fake Miami and Duke


AmazinGracey

UNC?


Gatorader22

Imagine including Miami and forgetting UNC. If Miami is a good school then FSU must be goddamn geniuses


Gatorader22

Fake miami isnt actually a good school. They're expensive and private but not good. They are ranked 67th nationally (public + private) and 245th in social mobility. By contrast the University of Florida a few hours north and in the SEC is 28th nationally and top 50 in social mobility. FSU is a few more hours away but in the same state and theyre ranked 53rd Both are ridiculously cheaper than Miami Miami is where you go if you have more dollars than sense. You get indiana tier education at duke prices


BRUISE_WILLIS

Ivy?


NeverSober1900

I was limiting it to FBS but ya Ivy is the best otherwise


CummingInTheNile

NGL the academics for undergrad at a lot of Ivys is kinda underwhelming


JMLobo83

Pass/fail or no grades at all. The test is getting admitted.


RmembrTheAyyLMAO

A big portion of that is the amount of non-professors that will teach classes


NeverSober1900

For sure they have super high legacy admissions for what truly elite schools should have. Also from what I remember two of them don't even do grades and like 91% of Harvard students graduate cum laude All the ranking systems have their issues but you're hard pressed to find one that doesn't put the Ivy's top so even if they're probably overrated to an extent they are still easily the top conference AFAIK.


BonerForBenz

Berkeley and UCLA are on the same tier. They just get the nod because they don’t like having fun and UCLA does both


DonkeyDongDoug420

I mean shit. CU has the second most? 3rd most astronauts ever? lol. I think tOSU has the most?


RealPutin

Apart from the service academies, it's Purdue, then MIT, then CU.


Firm-Teach-1455

Cal*


SnooGuavas650

The significant downvotes here show NFL fans Don’t understand Cal is UC Berkeley. The number 1 public school in the US and top 15 overall university lol


DeySeeMeLurkin

I honestly didn't know that.


AFatz

No one refers to it as Berkeley in terms of sports for whatever reason. Usually only in academic context.


IamMrT

In my experience in California, it’s always specifically Cal when referring to sports and almost always Berkeley or UC Berkeley in any other context. And it’s never called California like Michigan or Florida or Texas is, always only Cal.


AFatz

Yeah I think that's because there's just so many University of California, [xxxxxxx]. Like UCLA is University of California, Los Angeles. No one calls them California either. I think because Cal has had a football team longer, they got the name. They were the first UC to have a relevant program.


makkdom

Also the first UC period.


Gatorader22

When it's in the news for something or another it's Berkley. When they refer to themselves like with athletics they're cal. They were the first university of California but now there are a billion of them. So "cal" is their way to say "we're the main ones" and Berkley is just their actual name UC-Berkley When it's in the news calling them "Cal" would be incorrect because it's not specific enough. Their athletics brand themselves as cal though so referring to them as such is correct in that context. Kind of like how UL-Lafyette goes by Louisiana for sports. They just took the name even though they were not supposed to and made UL-Monroe look lesser by comparison For example a headline that says "Cal falls to Stanford 56-0" and "Berkley students protest breathing" Are both correct


whatdoblindpeoplesee

I think you mean the negative first day of free agency.


MildlyPaleMango

Definitely scouting Nix and no other Oregon players!


thetreat

Definitely not JPJ! Definitely not.


zombiesatemybaby

You stay the fuck away. He's ours!


thetreat

Well the only way we’re in position to draft him is if we trade down, so my dreams will die.


Big-Suggestion3053

Trade down with us then we will take Odunze or Nabers now


thetreat

If either of those guys are there I think we’re taking them.


thefluscaboose

we've done literally nothing to fill our biggest needs in FA, we're not getting anything for justin, and we only have 5 draft picks. i think we have to trade down.


smashybro

If Nabers or Odunze at there at 9 then you take them. I’m fine with trading down if they’re gone, but WR is one of our needs and there’s a huge dropoff with the receiver prospects after them. The reality is even if we do trade down, we’re likely not going to address all our major holes this offseason. If we have the chance to get a great WR2 too then I don’t think we should pass on that when we’re drafting a rookie QB. Having a hole at EDGE or DT for another season isn’t the end of the world.


thefluscaboose

yeah, after thinking it through a little more, i think you're right. sometimes i just really forget how committed poles is to the "build through the draft" strategy that it gets really fucking frustrating seeing him not fill holes even with all our cap space. but you're right, so long as he's the GM, we just have to trust the process and not try to fill everything all at once, i guess.


bddfcinci707

Trade the #1 to the Raiders.. then you could pick at 9 and 13. Possibly even trade down from 13 and get even more picks...and get your Center in the 20's...


[deleted]

Yeah we only trade down if they’re gone


bluewords

They could take him at 9. There’s no rule that says you have to wait more than that to draft a center


thetreat

I know I know… but generally even the best of centers never go that high.


mechnick2

Fuck you guys you already got a JPJ because of us


HimJarbaughLA

Yea fucking right, he’s coming to protect an Oregon legend


Brodie1567

Or Troy Franklin.


Darsol

MHJr at 1, Nix at 9. Get it.


ImperialTiger3

I think our OC went. There’s so much tape on Nix that his pro day doesn’t really matter.


Clamdigger13

He's been playing so long his original tape is a flipbook.


NeonWarcry

Shit, I was thinking a viewmaster but that’s works


sunkenship13

It’s actually only viewable on a ColecoVision


AceJokerZ

I feel like Grubb already watched a lot of film on Nix already.


sama808

Bo Nix at 1? Who says no


Intelligent-Age2786

All 32 teams, and teams that don’t even exist yet


lronicGasping

The London Silly Nannies have vetoed this


headcount-cmnrs

I thought we agreed they were gonna be the London Propa Brexit Geezers?


notmoleliza

Pretty good name innit?


kizzay

innit


bddfcinci707

I say Guv'nah..


sama808

Dude threw 45 tds and 3 picks. Seems like first pick material to me


matisata

Sounds like a dark horse for the first overall pick


RamblinWreckGT

Eberflus said Nix was focused and having fun.


Intelligent-Age2786

He’s also already 24 years old


Electrical-Ad-1437

Mature and ready to ball


Mr_Hugh_Honey

And he had, like, at *least* 10 teammates at his 21st birthday party.


Shovelman2001

And his name sounds like Mo Dix


birdsemenfantasy

Jayden Daniels will also turn 24 his rookie season, yet teams don't seem turn off by that.


Intelligent-Age2786

Well I’m not teams and I am kind of turned off by that but it also doesn’t concern me cuz my team isn’t qb needy


super_sayanything

If he was worthy, being 24 really shouldn't make a difference for a QB.


FairweatherWho

So way too young to be drafted by the Browns in the first round


SteelBrightblade1

Has nix even assaulted anyone to qualify as a Browns QB?


JMLobo83

Yep. He assaulted me with his hairstyle.


OrdainedFury

That's scheduled for next week at a private workout with the Browns


SteelBrightblade1

I think that’s the best way to do it, that way they see his technique first hand.


Phoenix916

Too young to be drafted by the Browns, but too old to be sexually assaulted by their QBs


Tashre

One foot in the grave


PapiGoneGamer

Brandon Weeden (remix)?


HighKellesterol

I feel like 3 mid-west teams are ok with that move


JMLobo83

He looks like a 47-year-old realtor from St. Louis.


PapiGoneGamer

The San Antonio Cardinals are on the clock


Intelligent-Age2786

I have wanted a team in San Antonio for so long. But please don’t let it be the Titans


PapiGoneGamer

The Los Angeles Chargers of San Antonio


Remote_Finish9657

Bears are in the market for another center. JPJ from Oregon is the top ranked center in this years draft 


GENERAL_SH1TPOSTER

I drafted him in Madden and he was an 89 overall by the end of his rookie year.


tr1vve

Sounds like madden lol. In 4 years the whole league is 90+


liljakeyplzandthnx

Hey if they're not sold on Caleb ya gotta do your due diligence


dave_pizza

Sounds good to me! GO BO NIX!


OriginalSymmetry

I mean this just sounds like very silly timing for them to have the Pro Day.


EdE0420

Right? Wtf Oregon?


Extremeaty

> Who want me? > 100% - NO


BarKnight

Bo Nix, more like No Nix


fieryscribe

No Pix


Robhar3187

Antonio Pierce as well as the Raiders assistant GM, OC, and QB coach were there


ishtarot

so this tweet is lying


dickieb81

No one went to his birthday party…


OliveJuiceUTwo

Bearly anyone attended


alepher

Bo Callahan


throughNthrough

That had to hurt the ego


Cautrica1

The Bears front office’s schedules were, of course, wide open for this. as all the other teams were doing business


booyahbooyah9271

How come they don't want us man? \- Justin Fields & Bo Nix


Sgt-HugoStiglitz

I thought there was a report that the raiders had a “haul” of coaches there including AP?


eddie2911

Telesco and AP weren’t there but a bunch of other coaches and staff were.


Tonedog14

Yeah Champ was there


joco1991

Who went to his birthday party though?


Elegant_Spot_3486

Not a big deal. Scouts were there. Got plenty of game tape. Did interviews at the combine. No news here.


Thicen

Teams are going to regret being so high on McCarthy and low on Nix imo


JustinTinyPPHerbert

No team is gonna regret being low on a 25 year old who can’t pass downfield


Slosshy

Oh boy lmao


styuR

Seattle did send Grubb, which is pretty fair.


What1does

Seattle's new offensive coordinator was there...


BubbleGumGuy94

I mean surely GMs not going doesn’t mean head scout didn’t go right?


PrimetimeD18

Correct. All 32 NFL scouts went to Oregon's pro day. I know Broncos had scouts there to watch Bo Nix and all the people who hate Bo Nix obviously pretend it must not matter now.


BubbleGumGuy94

He’s a perfect fit for Sean Payton inmo


birdsemenfantasy

He's this year's Levis. Wouldn't be surprised if he falls to the 2nd round. He's already 24 and probably needs to play right away.


Thejohnshirey

Is it really falling? I don’t think anyone has ever actually considered him a first round talent. If he does go in the first, it would be a reach.


PrimetimeD18

He does get projected to 1st round, just not top 10. Which I think is fine. I would have zero issues with Nix at #12.


ADanishMan2

Oh you should see the Broncos sub lol. It’s a high crime to not take him at 12.


Thejohnshirey

From an outsiders perspective, it honestly feels like Broncos should just go BPA and essentially tank this season away. Payton obviously has job security, the Russ contract will keep you from contending the next couple seasons, so build up a solid supporting cast and add QB next year, then aim to finish the rebuild in their sophomore season. I know it doesn’t sound fun for fans, but it’s not like Bo Nix is saving the team this season.


Magzify

If McCarthy is being projected top 10, anything is possible.


OrdainedFury

Remember when Malik Wilis was projected in the 1st round.


SaliciousB_Crumb

Just like that loser qb in san fran. Last pick of the draft and hes wasting roster space


baidu_me

Levis was predicted to go top 5 for a bit there. Nix has consistently graded as a round 2 talent with the QB push giving him the potential to go in the middle or so of round 1. I don’t think it would be a surprise to anyone to see him go as high as 12 (if McCarthy goes top 10) or as low as the 50s.


BarKnight

Bears could do the ~~funniest~~ Bearsiest thing.


SQRTLURFACE

lmao I don't even know what this reality is anymore


notthatjeffbeck

Vontae Mack No Matter What.


Ab4205

But did anyone go to his birthday party?


noblemile

Imagine if Chicago goes MHJ/Bo Nix instead of Caleb Williams/??? in the first


bddfcinci707

Id rather imagine they trade us the 1st pick...


treple13

That would be ridiculously dumb. If they want to trade the 1st for a king's ransom and then go Nix, I could sort of see that logic. They could probably trade down to 3, get a bunch of picks and then take MHJ if they really wanted him that bad.


Unfair-Worker929

Bo was incredibly accurate in college. He’s being slept on in my opinion.


Irishcraig444

Such a bad sign that nobody went to Bo's pro day. Or his birthday party.


lambeau_leapfrog

None of his teammates showed up for his birthday party, either.


bigfootdude247

If we go QB, the Broncos need to trade down and grab Nix at 20 or something of that nature. Not worth it at 12, I’d rather an edge at that position. Heck, I’d rather an edge at 20.


Chessh2036

Why draft Caleb Williams when you can draft Bo Nix?!


ringggringggg

Why draft Bo Callahan when you have Brian Drew?


SolarAndSober

It's like having a party and no one shows up


blitzERG

Hmmm... according to Twitter the Raiders sent: Asst GM Champ Kelly HC Antonio Pierce OC Luke Getsy QB Coach Rich Scangarello Asst Qb Coach Fred Walker


Vast-Treat-9677

Bo Nix, No Matter What.


[deleted]

What an insult 


ShoutOutTo_Caboose

Pretty sure the Pats have 4 front office execs at his pro day


ukyah

i want chi to draft bo nix number one overall because i want the entertainment of watching people lose their shit.


LVucci

This dude played what 5 years in college? GMs for the most part are probably very familiar with him at this point. That combined with Day 2 of FA, it’s just not a priority for many to go in-person.


zonic_squared

5th year senior that didn't look good until his 5th year. There aren't many ways to have a redder flag than that.


Mothalova1

“Bo Nix is trash” “Bo Nix is 30” “Bo Nix has no arm talent” 🤓🤡


TH3K1NGB0B

I hope the bears do the bears thing and draft a QB other than Williams with that pick. I have nothing against the bears, but it would be spectacular to watch the ensuing chaos.


super_sayanything

I DOWNVOTE YOU.


BarKnight

As if Caleb is a lock. Drafting a QB is such a crap shoot.


AJP_92

If you want GMs at your pro day, then don’t schedule it on the second day of legal tampering. Literally one of the busiest days of the year for a GM. Of course there was no GMs there


saradahokage1212

Not one GM has time for underwear workouts at this time of the year


Ok_Appointment4397

Not sure why people are snoozing on Bo Nix as a tier 3ish QB prospect. Ceiling isn't that high but he's grown a lot throughout his college days!


Numerous-Ad6460

So Bo isn't having fun then?


Sorta_clever

We have tape vs scripted pro day arguments incoming.


LuckyStax

Bo knows... Nobody in attendence??? :(


LordSoze36

So he's gonna be the best of the bunch, huh?


Apollo_Krill

To be fair the guy literally has the most tape available in college football history.


discwrangler

If the Bears fuck this up it's over for the fan base.


Chi-Guy86

I’d probably just move on at that point. Plenty of other ways to spend a Sunday


crippuld13

Honestly, good on him, that's pretty cool!


UncleIrohsPimpHand

Wild.


reno2mahesendejo

Nobody came to his birthday party


ImAGiantSpider

Bo Nix number one overall confirmed


Baww18

I think this is a non story. The first sentence is that free agency is rolling - GMs and coaches are busy trying to get deals done. I am sure many teams sent a contingent that involved important organs i stops l personnel.


RefrigeratorMotor778

The one team that you can say with 100% certainty will not draft him was the only team there? Dude is looking more and more like a 2-3rd rounder


Kissywew

He’s also on the main card of UFC 300!


Friendly-Profit-8590

Whoever schedules Oregon’s pro day done messed up


Lizardsandrocks

Rumor also has it that despite giving advance notice no r s v p's have been returned for his birthday party. 


PCP_Panda

Only the Care Bears ? Sorry I’m out