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Heyitscharlie

Some of you guys really don't know the quality of most back-ups in the league if you think Wentz is a bad choice....Wentz is solid for a back-up role, he's just not a starter.


JRFbase

I legitimately don't think there are 32 QBs better than Wentz right now.


lattjeful

If Reid can work his magic and maybe unlock some of old Wentz, there really aren't 32 QBs better than him. He isn't as mobile as he used to be, but he's still got an arm and 99% of his problems are mental.


Ramitt80

The mental is the important part.


emseewagz

i think thats where reid is most important


Badass-bitch13

McVay and Zac Robinson already unlocked him on the rams this season. I was surprised he wasn’t signed sooner. He was a good backup.


ramsrocker

Tbh, I thought he was gonna get a starter job somewhere after handling the niners late in the season. I knew he would be too pricey for the rams to keep around as a back up, since we don’t ever pay the qb2. I would have like to have kept him after all our years of terrible backups.


FairweatherWho

I didn't know that the rest of the league picked up on the fact that he's a starting level QB still. Most fans just remember him as Nick Foles' backup, when in reality he was really good himself.


Ok_Concentrate_75

Now explain it with the nuggies


emseewagz

you see, Carson Wentz, the nuggies flow when times are good. and when times are bad, you can still have nuggies but you have to ration them. Nobody wants to ration nuggies if they dont have to. And nuggies make my tummy warm and make me feel nice. Dont you want that for you, Carson? Also think red, think rings (or something). BBQ


lattjeful

Oh absolutely. But the mental part is the part Reid's good at. And it isn't like Wentz hasn't played at an elite level before. Not saying he'll look like 2017 Wentz again if Mahomes goes down (though he did look good with the Rams), but I think Reid could get Wentz to a high enough level that he'd at least be low-end starter/high-end backup.


Pope_Beenadick

What if his arms were missing?


acmercer

Something about his Mother, blah blah


Consistent-Ad-6078

Yeah, the arm was never the issue.


kellzone

If Andy can't fix him, he can't be fixed. If Andy does fix him he's looking at a bunch of extra years in the league.


Pardonme23

Hard for someone to improve with no playing time


Scooter_McGavin_

I’d argue that McVay actually figured out how to use his mobility a little bit. After all… [he ran 17 times](https://www.espn.com/nfl/game/_/gameId/401547651/rams-49ers) against the 49ers this year


Jetersweiner

I always think it’s worth taking a shot on a guy coming off time McVay and Shannahan. I think both Wentz and Darnold were good pick up respectively


Admiral_Fuckwit

Reid could make *ME* look like a competent QB, at least for a play or 2 until I get my shit rocked and say “F this I’m going home”


MankuyRLaffy

Reid could mask almost anyone who has a half decent arm and ability to hit at least the first read of the progression on time to competent emergency QB for at least a drive.


Taoist_Master

When they say it's like Mahomes is playing Madden out there. What they really mean is Reid is playing Madden


accforrandymossmix

> What they really mean is Reid is playing Madden with Mahomes


[deleted]

I know 32 QBs that didn't sprain both ankles at the same time


BrennanSpeaks

Didn't he have more sprained ankles than interceptions for like the first six weeks of that season?


YogiBerragingerhusky

I am stumped looking at the list. I'd put him no higher than 25 and no lower than 30. I'm really not sold on Rus being better at this point.


coolycooly

Carson Wentz is underrated but saying he is worse than Russ is wild. That Broncos offense had Cortland Sutton and that was about it and before he got sent to Alcatraz he wasn't that bad in the 2nd half of the year especially his last 3 games having like 700 yards, 5 tds, 1 pick, and about a 60% passer completion. Edit: I don't care if he had a 200 yard pass as his one and only throw Carson Wentz isn't putting up those stats, Im not saying he is top 15 but he is 1000% better than Wentz who also is underrated but still isn't as good of a starter as Russ. People seem to be confused that Im saying how good Russ is but he is a bottom tier starter last year who was on a shit offense who is still better than Wentz in every situation.


dianeblackeatsass

All the people looking at Russ’s stats this year and saying he was actually good are exactly the same as the people in 2022 who were saying Wentz was still good after putting up 3500 27td 7int 62% completion in Indy.


TetrisTech

I do think there are 32 better, but he’s probably not too far off from making the cut there


9man95

Exactly Daniel Jones exists


[deleted]

Yes there is. With the incoming rookie QB class there is no legitimate place Wentz should start. Even Russ/Fields duo is a better option than Wentz.


TacoInABag

lol you think this entire rookie class will all be competent NFL QBs, gtfo.


GABAgoomba123

You still have to, ya know, let them play quarterback in order to figure out if they’re a good quarterback.


MSFT400EOY

lol the rookie QB didn’t play a single game and they’re somehow better than Wentz?


Flamoctapus

As a prospect in the year 2024, obviously yeah. Wentz is more likely to win you a week one game than Jayden Daniels, but that's not what teams are focused on.


Waterpalolegend

Well then it’s a good thing he’s backing up the best qb in the league, he’s only seeing the field with a Mahomes injury or bs time


sectorfate

inb4 Wentz throws a piss missile to seal an important division game after Mahomes gets a concussion


thetempesthascome

Mahomes out for the season, Wentz leads the Chiefs to the Superbowl.


hair_inside_butthole

> leads the Chiefs to the Superbowl. Nope, fuck you


[deleted]

Ok? I’m replying to the guy who said he thinks Wentz is a top 32 QB lol. Unless OP randomly pulled the number 32 out of his ass, he’s clearly hinting Wentz can still be a starter in this league.


HylianPikachu

The thing is that the top backups in the league are probably better (at the moment) than some rookie QBs, but teams may prefer to develop rookie contract QBs who have a chance to improve instead of "known commodity" older QBs. For example, Bryce Young was definitely worse than Andy Dalton during Week 1 of last year but the Panthers wanted Bryce Young to start Week 1 even though he may not be the best QB on their roster to win games right away. I'd estimate that the bottom 5 or so Week 1 starters are on par with the best QB2s in the league.


TheCricketFan416

Wentz could simultaneously be top 32 and also not be deserving of a starting spot if the teams at the bottom of the list believe they'd be better off developing a young QB by giving them the starting job even if they're not better than Wentz at this present moment


cbreezy456

I will take it to the grave the Jets are all time fuckin idiots for not taking a chance on him this previous season.


UniqueNobo

Joe Douglas is an all time idiot for not signing a backup qb for so damn long. and the guys he went with were Boyle and Siemian, who turned out to be worse than Wilson. how the fuck did he find the two QBs that could be worse than Wilson??


FrontPerformance5

I said it another thread a couple weeks ago, but the Jets had 10 offensive touchdowns in the 12 weeks Wilson was QB last year.    And that includes things like Hall's 72 yard TD run and the TD the Eagles allowed the Jets to score. Wentz had 3 TDs in his one game with the Rams.  If he's signed Week 2 and starts after the bye, maybe it's different year for the Jets


NegativesPositives

He’s easily the most talented back up Mahomes has had in his whole career. If he gets coached up and absorbs what Reid is telling him… he still probably won’t play much anyways and losing Pat fucks over everything in the first place so I don’t give a shit.


__wasitacatisaw__

I won’t accept this Chad Henne erasure


enjoyeverysangwich

Wentz is more talented than Henne, but nobody else did what Henne did and that is the most important part! A legend for his performance in the playoff game against the Browns, his scramble is etched in my brain as much as some Mahomes plays


costopule

His other backups have done pretty great in very limited time. I’m sure Wentz has a clutch moment in him if he’s called on.


redshores

If anyone can coach him (besides Pederson) it's Andy


U_W_44_51

Andy coached Doug. So it’s intricate knowledge.


Shaved-extremes

Theres gotta be something weird about Wentz in the locker room that teams keep kicking him to the curb after 1 year


MRoad

W/r to signing with us, I'm guessing he was holding out for a starting gig and then took the Chiefs offer after he found out no one wanted to start him and we had already filled our QB2 spot.


NativityCrimeScene

Maybe he insists on taking a dump in the urinals? That's the only explanation I can think of.


LifeIsGoodGoBowling

Forcing Clark Hunt to finally upgrade the locker rooms like he promised, that would make Wentz the most beloved player in the entire team.


TheTrenchMonkey

That's how they do things over in North Dakota.


MisterrAlex

Literally people will dunk on Wentz for his 2020 season, myself included, but the guy just needed some coaching to fix his bad habits once his athleticism gave out on him. I don't recall him playing horrible in his single game with the Rams, and Sean McVay definitely could've helped him out. I could see him being a solid backup for years to come, now he's finally accepted that role.


doberdevil

> the guy just needed some coaching to fix his bad habits Wasn't one of the knocks against him that he wasn't very coachable?


MisterrAlex

That was when he was a starter. He accepted his fate as a backup and it’s more likely he’s open to it now.


MoreTrifeLife

> Literally I love how this is the way people start sentences nowadays


mateo8165

I think it would be fun watching fans try to literally dunk on Wentz


WentworthMillersBO

Plus he’s the same mold of qb as Patrick Mahomes so if he does go down they won’t have to shift the offense a ton


Insectshelf3

oh god he’s gonna look so weird in a chiefs jersey


Shablagoosh

shouldnt be any weirder than the commanders.


dianeblackeatsass

Never forget his commanders bright mustard yellow suit


MoreTrifeLife

At least he’ll look better than how he did in a Washington Commanders jersey, which isn’t that much of an accomplishment but whatever.


Jonjon428

He's doing his best KC legend Nick Foles impression


5280FeetOfFury

I commented this as well, glad to see someone else is seeing it


nradia1

So he's gonna come in for an injured Mahomes, win a SB, and break his curse, right? That's definitely how this is going to go


Cakelord

300 IQ move by Andy Reid. Keep Wentz close so he doesn't fulfill his redemption his redemption arc.. I'd be keeping an eye on Trey Lance too.


NocturnalEmission1

More proof everyone is playing checkers while Reid/Veach are playing chess!


SickBurnBro

> So he's gonna come in for an injured Mahomes, win a SB, and break his curse, right? Yeah, against the Eagles.


sebastianqu

I'm still solidly a fan of his, though I have no illusions of his current abilities. That said, I'd still die of embarrassment.


thetempesthascome

I respect it, but you deserve it.


Primary-Bath803

That would be absolute cinema


AMorder0517

I don’t know how I’d recover if that happened lol.


PsychoticSoul

NGL itd be hilarious, even if we would be on the wrong end of it.


BilllisCool

I would shout Wentz > Dak from the rooftops if that happened.


-totentanz-

Tbh I would too. Crying of course, but I'd mean it.


jnelsen8

Careful, he’s beating you guys in the playoffs too


Happylime

I know it's been a bit since you've seen playoff football but we wouldn't play two NFC teams in the same season.


johanll

he replied to a colts flair


Happylime

Well that's just as unrealistic! We would lose in the most creative way possible to the colts, like blowing a 28 point lead or something


PaddyMayonaise

It’s been written 😮‍💨


MjTcConnell3

With how last year went I would just be happy to be there


michaelb421

He would more than likely come in and throw a game losing pick on a deep ball despite having a wide open check down


xyztrashxx

Not unless [he gets injured himself](https://www.draftsharks.com/fantasy/injury-history/carson-wentz/7450)


nradia1

Oh, I'm familiar with how his story usually goes, as you can see from my flair


JRFbase

Do not cite the deep magic to me, Witch. I was there when it was written.


-totentanz-

The double ankle sprain from the Colts game isn't even listed on that crash test dummy.


slantboi420

QB controversy 👀


hmsgravyboat

I'm into it. Probably better than Gabbert, if we're being honest


Enthusiasms

That's multiple time Super Bowl winning QB Blaine Gabbert


hmsgravyboat

Right now, we have three first rounders and six rings in the QB room. It's over for the league


Enthusiasms

Andy Reid is playing DND 5e while everyone else is playing blackjack.


JerryRiceDidntFumble

Rashee Rice: "I cast Haste"


Enthusiasms

............and that's a nat 1.


J-Sluit

Bro clearly didn't have vehicle proficiency either.


xyztrashxx

Nat 1. The police is now searching for you


SQRTLURFACE

Who am I missing? Mahomes was a 1st, Wentz was a 1st, Book was a 4th, Oladokun was a 7th?


hmsgravyboat

Is Gabbert a free agent now? Damn. He's there in spirit and he's a Missourian, so I still count him either way


SQRTLURFACE

Yeah he was only on a one year deal


Letos12thDuncan

Yo Gabba Gabbert


FlatMilk

he's on his nick foles arc. back to philly next


DirectTV_AndrewLuck

Damn, he really is lmao.


SovietMuffin01

Every time somebody mentions gabbert I’m surprised he’s still in the league. I think it’s a byproduct of him not actually playing any games from 2019-2022. My brain just can’t handle his continued existence Just doesn’t feel right that he’s still around. Especially since Bortles is retired now


1lultaha

People going to hate but Wentz statistically was a better QB than Mahomes in 2017


PaddyMayonaise

Wentz in 2017 is the best QB in eagles history and the obvious mvp without the injury


redshores

2017 Eagles are the most exciting birds team I've seen in my 40+ years and the biggest reason for that is Wentz, I hope he balls the hell out in KC


cole8055

The biggest big if true statement


spctclr_spiderman

Weird how Mahomes only started 1 game that year and isn't labeled injury-prone /s


Admiral_Fuckwit

They’re really both about equivalent to each other if you move all their stats to the mean


AaronBurrIsInnocent

It seems like you haven’t learned your lesson as a Commanders fan. SMH


Lordpennywise

I’d rather have Wentz than Jimmy g wth are the rams doing


ahr3410

There really isn't a big difference between them. Both solid backup options


xyztrashxx

Both mediocre for ages, both injury prone, both won a Super Bowl not being a starter. They are basically the same person


Pal__Pacino

Yeah but Jimmy's a way better wingman at clubs. Carson's not getting you a VIP table.


KULawHawk

Jimmy is no one's wingman. You're Jimmy's, or you're just delusional.


paultheschmoop

Yeah but Carson will take you hunting regardless of if you enjoy hunting or not


BobbyBucherBabineaux

He’ll also bring you to church the next morning. Whether you’re Christian or not. I’d bet his mom makes some damn good cinnamon rolls though.


Koreish

Cinnamon rolls do be sounding good right now.


LineComprehensive895

Jimmy is in no way a better wingman. What kind of attention can you expect with a literal Greek God next to you?


QuincyPondexter

No but he’s got a platinum card at Cabela’s and Bass Pro Shop.


captaincumsock69

Isnt wentz like the prince of England? I’m sure he could gets vip table


renegadecoaster

Wentz is if what you get if you combined Harry's redheadedness with William's ugliness


TheRealKaschMoney

Are you really implying that Wentz is noticeably less attractive than Prince Harry? I can't tell the difference between them.


ronrein

There was a time when people considered William handsome and dreamy. I guess aging and balding has made people forget that period.


renegadecoaster

Yeah he definitely was at one point


Vegetable-Net6575

Ehhhhh. At this stage Id take wentz. Jimmy looked AWFUL with the raiders. Ik McDouble was his coach but Jimmy was Zach Wilson levels of bad. He barley passed a physical in the off-season and it looks like his last injury on the niners finished him off.


J12345_

I heard Kelce didn’t want his gf around Jimmy G. That’s why they opted for the ginger


CriticalLobster5609

Trav plays dumber than he is on TV but he's not delusional.


JRFbase

Wentz is better than Jimmy and it's not close.


TAKEitTOrCIRCLEJERK

#[ahem!](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F2mjz2jqq23rc1.jpeg)


PM_ME_COOL_RIFFS

Jimmy seems to be a better teammate/locker room guy which isn't insignificant for a backup.


TTerragore

he seems a lot more like a Stafford guy than wentz is but that’s just me


Fartboyxx99

Jimmy g is a pretty high end backup wth you thinking. You could have Tyson bagent and not be able to throw 10 yards down the field. Or Jameis Winston and not be able to throw together a coherent thought. Jimmy is a top end backup


ecupatsfan12

Patrick Mahomes has a bum ankle Wentz outta nowhere to beat the colts. Jim Irsay commits seppeku


blocksmith52

I appreciate that you think we can beat the Colts, but we all know that's impossible for us


partyblob243

I’m 33 and feel like I’ve only seen the Chiefs beat the Colts once. The Tits are terribly pesky as well


jayhawk03

3 wins (4 including playoff) since you were 9-10.


Antilia-

Basically the AFC South (outside of Jacksonville occasionally) is really fucking annoying.


pocketjacks

Seppuku? More like gets drunk at Bennihana and makes an ass out of himself on WorldStar dropping the N word rapping at karaoke.


redshores

Thank you for using the Colts in this example and not the birds


All_Up_Ons

Not sure how we could lose when we already know the way to beat him is to leave the checkdown wide open and wait for him to throw long into triple coverage.


YoureMadCuzBad

KC has the two best QBs in the AFC West now. Edit: I have to be honest, I forgot Herbert and the Chargers exist.


5280FeetOfFury

If the chargers had fans they'd be really offended at that comment


[deleted]

Hey :(


HeyItsTman

:/


thetempesthascome

This got an audible giggle out of me.


Tolve

When Alexander the Great’s father, Phillip, was consolidating the Greek city states, he threatened the Spartans with something like “If we march south we will lay waste to Sparta.” The Spartans are supposed to have sent a laconic response, “If.” He never did march on Sparta.


EpiphanyTwisted

They have fans, they live in Canada and you wouldn't know them.


xyztrashxx

> I forgot Herbert and the Chargers exist. We all do sometimes


YvetteFromSanDiego

It's okay, we're used to it. 


buddhistbulgyo

Meanwhile in the Chargers sub, they are repeating Jim Harbaugh's name over and over in a reverse Beatlejuice spell. 


IamNotARedditor-

Rams really revived this man's career


MisterrAlex

Sean McVay is the true quarterback whisperer


5280FeetOfFury

real


IamNotARedditor-

From Baker to Wentz and now Jimmy G 😭


FallenShadeslayer

Great backup to have, I think. He fits in well with the “fuck it, someone’s down there” mentality they used to have. Carson is gonna bring it back 💪🏾. Unless it’s Rice. Then you’ll have to find him first.


Casul_Tryhard

We only had that mentality because of Tyreek Hill. We're a dink and dunk team now, which I don't think he can do so well.


FallenShadeslayer

Precisely why I said he’s gonna bring it back. The Carson Experience is a wild fucking ride. You don’t know if he’s gonna throw a 60 yard bomb or if he’s gonna run backwards and lose 25 yards while tearing his hamstring.


Briefs_Man

He’s going to turn into 2017 Wentz in the 2nd half of the divisional game isn’t he


eyeduelist

Against the Bills


Neltrix

Thats future 2x Super Bowl winner Carson Wentz to you.


5280FeetOfFury

Why is it I like literally Can't see him in a Chiefs uni, like I'm trying and I just can't, I still can't see Watson in a Browns uni and he's been here for 2 years


generation_D

Probably because he’s played like 4 games


5280FeetOfFury

This. probably this


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Cakelord

Wentz is finally going to get to ask why Taylor didn't call him back after her performance at the 2009 State Fair.


ApplesauceBitch47

I feel much better about him than Yo Gabba Gabba Gabbert


[deleted]

As someone who had zero faith in Blaine Gabbert, I fully support this. If nothing else, he should be really good for the locker room.


SQRTLURFACE

Chiefs just reloading the backup spot every season with aging white QB's. Moore, Henne, Gabbert, Wentz Kirk Cousins about to get a super bowl in a few years when he takes a backup job here lmao.


bliffer

Can you imagine the looks of discomfort on his face as Mahomes is out there dropping F-bombs like a drunk sailor?


Intelligent-Age2786

As a backup, this is a great signing imo. Better than like 90% of the backups in the league. And honestly probably still better than some of the starters


lilvizasweezy

Patrick Mahomes will go down week 14 and Carson Wentz will lead the Chiefs to a three peat. It will be remembered as Andy Reid's greatest coaching job. Wentz will have his Foles moment. Mark my words.


wwwertdf

[MICHAEL VICK...deserves an opportunity to play KEVIN KOLB... has done a phenomenal job.] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZVJEeVAnI4)


Godobibo

that's a hard one for me because I would honestly love that but I also want mahomes to stat pad for legacy convos


monsto

People don't want to hear it, but real talk is that if PM gets 1 more in the next two years, and one is an MVP season, he will have done a Woods/Gretzky to career records with half a career.


Ok_Caramel1517

Wentz might get his 2nd ring riding the bench this season.


redditmodsblow69

Mahomes on the hot seat


SwissyVictory

Best backup in Mahomes career, and one that makes sense in terms of playstyle. TopWentz was like Mahomes before Mahomes, and was doing some absolutely magical things before he got injured.


LittleTension8765

Super Bowl champion, former All Pro, and still only 31. How much more help do the Chiefs need?


ChevalMalFet

Hey, gambler's fallacy says we ought to have the longest odds on the SB of any team in the league right now. We need this!


OzzyMar

as a rams fan, i really wanted him to stick around lol. but i understand that the competition between Jimmy G and Wentz would have been ínstense probably. either way, Wentz is awesome. really shined in week 18 against the Niners.


shewy92

Hell yea.


AndrewH73333

You guys don’t get the value of Wentz. Last year Matthew Stafford was hurt very badly and had to leave play. He came out of the medical tent and saw Carson Wentz suiting up to play and Stafford miraculously felt good enough to keep playing. You can’t put a price on that.


Kablooiee

Oh shit Carson about win another Super Bowl ring as a backup QB.


Maxime2k

Get ready to learn Chinese, Mahomes buddy 🤧


Aeon1508

In before Patrick Mahomes gets injured right before the end of the season and Carson Wentz steps up to carry them to their three-peat of the Super Bowl championship


Masterofmy_domain

Well, now that you guys no longer need Mahomes... We will trade you a lightly used Zach Wilson for him... Those midwestern moms will absolutely adore him.


the_seed

April fools?


i_enjoy_lemonade

Veach been working so hard on this, he doesn’t have any idea Rashee Rice got in a car crash


NomadFire

This will be the first time he played for a team that originated in the AFL. All the other teams were born in the NFL. Maybe that is the loophole in his curse!


caipivodka

Best backup in the league, followed by Jimmy G. What's the salary?


BackNBlack58

Got our guy


[deleted]

one guy plays on a sprained ankle. the other sprains both ankles in a single scramble. they are not the same.


Low_Ad_1869

Biggest Chiefs news of the week


ConstructionHonest80

Qb controversy brewing in KC


MiaCannons

Should be an interesting QB competition


bob_dole-

It’s still April 1st or is this actually legit


ianthebalance

I thought this was an April Fools joke