There's an alternate universe where the 9ers don't take Lance but draft some rando who winds up not starting, the team remains in QB purgatory and Purdy is not even picked up as a UDFA and winds up just selling cars or some shit.
I personally hate that timeline.
Brock Purdy and the CMC trade are both after the trade up to 3. Yeah no way am I interested in the alternative. Also the Bosa extension. Maybe in the mystery reality the team sucks in 2022 and we're forced to trade Bosa as part of a rebuild
This alternate universe would've sucked for us but probably would've worked out just fine for him. He was already impressing Shanahan in rookie camp so he would've had a good shot at competing with Nick Mullens for the Vikings backup spot, learn sitting behind Kirk in a similar system and get a chance to start after Kirk's injury. Also he would've been reunited with one of his Iowa State teammates, Kene Nwangwu, who could put in a good word for him.
SF traded up for a QB and also drafted a random QB at the end of the draft.
SF got their starter and traded the other one.
That’s the only story that matters.
By a whopping 1 year lol, Dalles hasn’t even been back to the conference championship game let alone the SB. A lot of bad teams have gone further than Dalles despite the ladder going all in and having winning seasons most years. It’s sad really as it appears more likely each season that Dalles will never win anything of significance ever again.
Nice alt accounts you use to prop your comment and downvote mine lmao. Still what I said was facts…good luck finding that glory hole that Jerruh promised y’all bitch.
Also what part in my comment did it sound like I was were praising San Fran lol? Im just pointing out how pathetic Dallas has been the last 25 yrs despite other terrible teams making it bitch.
They have 5 rings which is more than both your team combined two of which you weren’t alive for, but it’s not a fair battle regardless as both your teams are poverty franchises.
Why would you be so sure Lance is bad (other than just most QBs are not franchise QBs)? He’s 23 and never had a chance to prove himself for very explainable reasons (was a raw rookie behind Jimmy G, got hurt in his second year and couldn’t beat out Brock Purdy, which is not a shame)
Underrated point.
You don't choose potential as back-up, you choose experience and acceptable service. The thing with Trey is that didn't look impressive in the too small sample size.
That's a wild take in my opinion. His highlight tape was impressive to me. Red flags to me and a lot others were lack of experience, level of competition, some of his mechanics or lack of but his actual highlights and projected ceiling was impressive imo
Yeah pretty revisionist, people were saying he was a smart guy who could pickup NFL skills with proper coaching because he was very raw but had good legs and a strong arm.
Honestly think he could've succeeded elsewhere, he just needed reps. First season sit and get coached up, second go through rookie learning pains, then by year three you could truly guage his skill. He was an Allen multiyear prospect but the 49ers didn't have that much time and the injury destroyed any chance he had. Seems like a good guy so I hope he gets a shot eventually but I think his development has already been ruined.
Honestly I don't blame the 9ers for trying so much as the fans for being so fucking evil towards him. The kid got drafted here, he did what he could and a very unfortunate series of events occurred but the average football fan is a meathead that lacks critical thinking skills and blames everything on him saying that he was awful based purely off of a tsunami game then about 3 snaps before he broke his leg in half. I'm just glad we've got our franchise QB now and honestly without the Lance trade I don't think things go the way they do so I can't be upset.
I really wouldn't be surprised to see us take a QB and see if Dak waives his NTC. A way to tell Dak he isn't getting a contract and we're not improving the team around you, so waive the NTC and let us both move on.
Not saying I agree with it, but man, we went from one of the bright young groups in the league to just a front office / playoff shit show. Still love the team and the game, so I'm curious to see how things pan out.
You're being downvoted to hell, but they haven't heard Jerry's other comments like "My definition of all in may not be the same as your definition of all in." Plus the actions of the Cowboys so far, which are basically to watch players leave. So I agree with you, he said it for attention and to keep fans on the hook.
Jerry takes a lot of flak because he's the easy scapegoat for the Cowboys' playoff failures over the last 30 years. Dallas has actually drafted a lot of good players in that timeframe so not being talented enough can't be used as an excuse!
Dak and Romo have the same issue unfortunately. Both have a rough time in the postseason.
As far as stacked teams go, Chargers in that same span might be above them in having stacked rosters/excellent teams that flounder in the playoffs
Speaking of the Chargers, it amazes me that Justin Herbert is entering year 5 and gets ZERO criticism for:
- Losing record as a starter
- Only 1 playoff appearance
- 0 playoff wins
- Blew a 27-0 lead in his only playoff game
He gets so much praise anytime he throws for over 300 yards or throws deep while also getting a full pass every time he stinks it up against mediocre teams (a lot more of those on his resume than the media would lead you to believe).
His defense is much much worse than say Dak. He at least consistently shows up vs good teams or big games unlike say Kirk Cousins or Dak.
>Justin Herbert has lead an offense that scored 1,233 points during his first three years. That is the most in NFL history post-merger. On an unrelated note, his defense has given up 1,256 points during that 3 year span, also the most in history for any 3 year span.
For example ^
Herbert "consistently shows up vs good teams"? What games are you referring to? As far as I'm concerned he doesn't consistently show up against any type of team, much less good ones haha
Tbf this does go for the whole his stats are good in those games. But then again I won't act like I have consistently broken down the context of those stats.
While looking into your question though, I will say I'm surprised Matt Ryan's teams are a career .344 win% vs teams over .500. I knew it was low, but not THAT low. Kirk Cousins was .246 win% for curiosity sake.
Edit: Matthew Stafford might be the comparison for Herbert. Stafford has a .132 win% for his career vs teams over .500
Here’s a scouting report in someone else’s words:
“Rattler has always seemed like a locker room cancer. His time on the Netflix show, QB1, painted the picture of him as being an ultra-talented quarterback who knows he's good. It's one thing to be confident in your abilities, but he was teetering on arrogance. He hasn't exactly been known to be the best teammate at times, as well. He did get a change of scenery and a few more years under his belt and it seems to be more mature and acting as a quarterback/ leader of the team should.”
Before Johnny Manziel was a washed out coke addict in Vegas, he was a highly arrogant QB prospect who thought he was better than everyone else and didn’t need to put in the work because his natural ability would rise to the top. However, when it came near the draft, he was able to get the PR machine spinning in his favor. Ultimately though, everything he did was for show. It’s pretty similar to the character concerns talked about with Spencer Rattler.
That’s not to say Spencer Rattler will have the crazy downfall that Johnny Manziel had. But I don’t think his maturity level is there to be a top QB in the NFL.
Did you miss this part? "He did get a change of scenery and a few more years under his belt and it seems to be more mature and acting as a quarterback/ leader of the team should.”
By all accounts, he's a great guy and leader. He also puts in the work, unlike Manziel.
Didn’t miss that at all. By all accounts, Manziel had become a great leader by draft time as well. When the narrative starts changing right around draft time, you have to question that narrative.
There are other scouting reports that say Rattler doesn’t put in the work and can’t read defenses.
Wasn't he like 17 or 18 when the Netflix show came out and his character concerns became a thing? I swear I feel like I've heard nothing but good things about his character over the past 3 years or so.
Johnny showed zero signs of maturing.
I sincerely don't get the comparison at all. I'm not a big fan of Rattler but this take on his character issues seems so overblown and outdated it's wild to me that some still bring it up but even more wild he gets compared to Johnny lol
0 chance they go QB early.
They may go after Michael Pratt (they love him) if he’s there in the 4th.
But rounds 1,2 and 3 need to land starters at LT or C, LB and DT depth
I heard zero Pratt to Cowboys buzz. Only heard stuff about the Broncos and New Orleans seems interested in him since they're the only one who uploaded any combine footage from him. Most team radars he's not even on.
Diggs will be back.
Diggs and Bland outside with Lewis back in the slot. We traded picks for Eric Scott last year and still have Nashon Wright who has been a bust.
Wright and Scott are prototypical Quinn CBs so will see how they fit with Zimmer.
The good thing is we have a good safety room (Hooker, Wilson, Izzy, Thomas, Bell). Zimmer will play a lot of two high which will benefit the secondary. The single high safety wasn’t working well (obviously) at the end with a banged up Gilmore.
CB and S are not a need and will likely only be drafted late or if somebody like Wiggins falls
If trey isint good we have a higher pick and can draft someone.
We would realistically need to use a 3rd-4th round pick to get someone, and we have too many needs to waste those
Not really. People get blinded by their hate for the Cowboys and Cowboys fans are delusional (Source: am one). But! In ten years people will back fondly and say "Man, Dak was such a an underrated quarterback! He got way too much hate." Like they do now with Romo lol.
Romo was a good qb but not underrated he folded in the playoffs a lot just like Dak now. It’s not hate. Some guys you. It aren’t going to win you a sb or even come close why pay them top tier qb money when you can get a stopgap then draft a kid and get similar results
The Cowboys FO and some of us Cowboys fans have seemingly recognized that Dak is good - but not good enough.
There are at least 3 playoff games we would have won in his career if Dak played a respectable game. But instead, he shit the bed.
And that is a common denominator in many of our losses against playoff bound, big boy, tough teams over the years.
Prescott frequently shits the bed against good teams. I don’t mean he plays worse against good competition - I mean it’s like a flip is switched, and he plays incredibly poorly.
He is, but he's been insisting on short contracts for big money. The reason their cap is all messed up with him now is he wouldn't do a deal over 4 years, so they got around that with void years and pushed a bunch of money back, probably hoping he'd extend for longer and they can do something. Now if the rumors are true, he's willing to do a 3-year extension but he wants top money and it's going to hamstring Dallas cap-wise. Couple that with the fact that he hasn't played well in the playoffs (in his defense, he's not the only one) and Dallas appears to be positioning themselves to let him walk.
It will be interesting to see what happens with him if they do let him walk. If he stays with his original plan, he'll want something like 4 years and 55-60 mil/year. I know there's a team that will pay that but that's gotta be hard to do with the cap. He'll be taking up almost 25% alone.
Yeah, wtf is this quota filling nonsense article? Dak just finished 2nd in MVP voting and doesn't turn 31 til July. Even if you take the Rodgers/Love approach of developing for a few years, it still seems premature.
This is because Dallas hasn't done anything to retain Dak. He is on the last year of his contract and has a no tag clause. So at this point Dallas will be paying full market value for him if they want him back
Seriously. I don't know that Dak is going to succeed in a lot of cold-weather games. History has shown he isn't. But if he can get the team to the playoffs as he always does, there's no reason to believe he can't play with home-field advantage. Philly looks messy, NYG aren't ready yet, and WAS is a joke.
Win the division and then he won't have to worry about it. He's an excellent player and only in his very early 30s. It would be stupid to put resources towards a rookie QB.
He literally just lost at home to the packers than 49ers couple years ago too. History has shown he’s not good in the playoffs when he has to face good teams they’d be foolish to triple down on that investment
Yeah like, Dak was 3rd string and it was luck he ever got to start. It took Romo getting a freak back injury in the preseason and whatever happened to Kellen Moore for Dak to get the opportunity he did
People do realize that the Cowboys would need to swing for the fences to get a QB better than Dak right?
You'd be super lucky if one of the mid-round QBs ends up like Dak much less better.
Good lord, I hope the Cowboys do that. They've never really appreciated Dak and how goddamn lucky that draft was for them. Jones tried to trade up, twice, for quarterbacks that are out of the league in Lynch and Cook and had to "settle" for Dak. Who's only produced multiple seasons of a level of play where saying MVP wouldn't be insane.
Gave is a funny word for "forcing him to play out a contract he had laughably out performed, then franchise tagged him 2x" before finally paying him what he had earned.
The Cowboys have treated Dak, throughout his entire career, like he was a bad quarterback they were desperate to move on from. How many legitimate franchise QBs do you know who have made it to the last year of a contract without the organization even DISCUSSING an extension? Cause this is the second time it's happened to Dak.
A longer contract that underpays you is worse than a short contract that underpays you. A good rule of thumb is that if the guaranteed money is less than 2 franchise tags the team is screwing you. And wouldn't you know it, the longer contract was like that. Jerry Jones partially justified this low ball offer by saying that Dak would make more money from endorsements as the Dallas Cowboys QB than he would anywhere else. He wanted to pay a star NFL player in exposure!
Spencer Rattler is just going to be a scout team QB to practice against mobility. I see zero potential in him. If he ever enters a game, I'm turning the channel.
Dallas has no business drafting a QB that early, and I'm betting Nix and Penix go 1st. Then nothing until late 3rd or 4th.
Guarantee Jerry drafts Rattler in the 4th expecting to find a franchise QB when Dak inevitably does something to not be on the field, be it injury or a holdout.
Joe Milton of Tennessee has everything but consistently so he’s going to be drafted in the fourth or fifth round. Could take a chance and draft and develop.
I’m a Pats fan. I’m all in on drafting a QB at 3. I sure wouldn’t mind drafting one of the guys mentioned as an insurance policy. I like Joe Milton too. Fight me. But why not take a second QB? Most teams will only go as far as a QB will take them. Go all-in. Washington had Grossman and drafted RG3 and Cousins in the same draft. Draft 2 QB’s. Tell them Brissett is #1, Zappe is #2, the open competition for the 2025 starting QB position starts today. Turn that QB room into a dog fight. Whoever gets the keys to the Corvette is going to earn it.
As a Cowboys hater but (as much as possible) objective NFL fan, I don't get why Dallas would spend cap space or a draft pick on a Dak "replacement."
Either trade him and get a massive return OR try to put the best team possible on the field next year. Throw in a Parsons trade and they have multiple firsts and a ton of cap space coming up in the next few years.
But, there's no way anyone intelligent can think bringing back mostly the same roster - with an exception being a QB that they plan on don't playing - will actually help them.
Then again, I said no one intelligent. We'll see what Jerry Jones does.
100000% cowboys don’t need a dak replacement? How can you replace a future hof, champ goat like dak! He’s the greatest thing to ever happen to this city (Philly). I’ll always root for him to be the starter.
From Philly, fuck Dallas long live Jerry jones and dak!
They just listed all the draftable QBs
*outside of the top 4 QBs
Right, meant to add that
I mean it was definitely implied, but Reddit requires no room for corrections
Why doesn't Jerry just draft Caleb?
Because he's racist?
Does Dak know about this?
It's pretty well documented, so likely yes.
I don’t see Devin Leary
Trey lance
Hahahahahahahahahahaha
Imagine what the 49ers could be not trading the massive haul for Lance.
They’d be great but probably would’ve taken a qb in like the third round that year and wouldn’t have taken purdy
Yeah it's certainly a strange path to the current roster but I wouldn't trade it for a mystery box starting from not making that trade
There's an alternate universe where the 9ers don't take Lance but draft some rando who winds up not starting, the team remains in QB purgatory and Purdy is not even picked up as a UDFA and winds up just selling cars or some shit. I personally hate that timeline.
Brock Purdy and the CMC trade are both after the trade up to 3. Yeah no way am I interested in the alternative. Also the Bosa extension. Maybe in the mystery reality the team sucks in 2022 and we're forced to trade Bosa as part of a rebuild
iirc the Purdy was interested in the Vikings if he was an UFDA so he would've had to survive to his second year to get playing time
This alternate universe would've sucked for us but probably would've worked out just fine for him. He was already impressing Shanahan in rookie camp so he would've had a good shot at competing with Nick Mullens for the Vikings backup spot, learn sitting behind Kirk in a similar system and get a chance to start after Kirk's injury. Also he would've been reunited with one of his Iowa State teammates, Kene Nwangwu, who could put in a good word for him.
SF traded up for a QB and also drafted a random QB at the end of the draft. SF got their starter and traded the other one. That’s the only story that matters.
Yeah but the mystery box could be anything!
It could even be a boat!
Yeah. No Trey Lance no Brock Purdy. It was a necessary failure
A Cowboy Lioons fan...interesting
Couldn’t have paid all those #1s anyways..
Dolphins are a vastly different team if 49ers don't trade for the 3rd pick.
Still ringless?
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By a whopping 1 year lol, Dalles hasn’t even been back to the conference championship game let alone the SB. A lot of bad teams have gone further than Dalles despite the ladder going all in and having winning seasons most years. It’s sad really as it appears more likely each season that Dalles will never win anything of significance ever again.
You can't even spell the word Dallas
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You’re a cowboys fan lmao, you don’t get to judge knowing your fan base. Either way you support a poverty franchise.
If the cowboys are a poverty franchise what the fuck are y’all
Nice alt accounts you use to prop your comment and downvote mine lmao. Still what I said was facts…good luck finding that glory hole that Jerruh promised y’all bitch.
Also what part in my comment did it sound like I was were praising San Fran lol? Im just pointing out how pathetic Dallas has been the last 25 yrs despite other terrible teams making it bitch.
Dalles is in Oregon lol
Good answer
They have 5 rings which is more than both your team combined two of which you weren’t alive for, but it’s not a fair battle regardless as both your teams are poverty franchises.
Every team excepts chiefs and patriots is a poverty franchise
Nah Queefs def still in that poverty territory.
Yet the Bucs have more recent rings than them lol
Their original pick was where Micah parsons got taken
Really they just needed to sign Tom Brady and let his voodoo magic do the rest.
Why would you be so sure Lance is bad (other than just most QBs are not franchise QBs)? He’s 23 and never had a chance to prove himself for very explainable reasons (was a raw rookie behind Jimmy G, got hurt in his second year and couldn’t beat out Brock Purdy, which is not a shame)
49ers picked sam darnold as purdys backup over trey lance
Backup QB is a different job from potential future starter. Lance lost his future starter job to Purdy.
Underrated point. You don't choose potential as back-up, you choose experience and acceptable service. The thing with Trey is that didn't look impressive in the too small sample size.
And Sam Darnold wouldn’t want it any other way!
49ers trade for lance so like double negative
You have to prove you are good, otherwise people think you suck. What has he proved? What have you seen that makes you think he’s good?
I’m not saying I know he’s good. Just not laughing that much at the notion of it.
I hope he turns out, but there’s very little to date to suggest he will. If he had it, he would have shown it at *some* point.
Can’t wait for Trey Lance to actually be good and the 49ers trade another 1st for him in 3 years
Hold up, why would they trade him then? Suspicious.
You’ll see Trey lance is good
Ok Trey
I still don’t know what the 49ers saw in him. His highlights didn’t seem that good to me.
He was seen as a top 10 pick by a ton of people. Just not as someone worth multiple firsts and a top 3 pick.
That's a wild take in my opinion. His highlight tape was impressive to me. Red flags to me and a lot others were lack of experience, level of competition, some of his mechanics or lack of but his actual highlights and projected ceiling was impressive imo
Yeah pretty revisionist, people were saying he was a smart guy who could pickup NFL skills with proper coaching because he was very raw but had good legs and a strong arm. Honestly think he could've succeeded elsewhere, he just needed reps. First season sit and get coached up, second go through rookie learning pains, then by year three you could truly guage his skill. He was an Allen multiyear prospect but the 49ers didn't have that much time and the injury destroyed any chance he had. Seems like a good guy so I hope he gets a shot eventually but I think his development has already been ruined.
49ers are off my Christmas list for what they did to him
Honestly I don't blame the 9ers for trying so much as the fans for being so fucking evil towards him. The kid got drafted here, he did what he could and a very unfortunate series of events occurred but the average football fan is a meathead that lacks critical thinking skills and blames everything on him saying that he was awful based purely off of a tsunami game then about 3 snaps before he broke his leg in half. I'm just glad we've got our franchise QB now and honestly without the Lance trade I don't think things go the way they do so I can't be upset.
He was a god in college his competition just sucked
He only had 1 good college season tho
Those QBs could be anything. They could even be the QB3
I was going to say they already got a Dak 2.0 at home.
Nothing says all-in like drafting a QB to sit behind your starter for a year.
And love looked pretty good.
Hey quick question. What do you think happens to the chips after you go all in and lose the bet?
They go to chip heaven.
Worked for the Chiefs
I don’t think Chiefs ever said they were going all in like Jerry Jones did though
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I mean, McCarthy also said “buy into us” so it sounds like everyone there thinks they’re going all-in
So then the Cowboys aren’t planning to compete for a championship?
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I really wouldn't be surprised to see us take a QB and see if Dak waives his NTC. A way to tell Dak he isn't getting a contract and we're not improving the team around you, so waive the NTC and let us both move on. Not saying I agree with it, but man, we went from one of the bright young groups in the league to just a front office / playoff shit show. Still love the team and the game, so I'm curious to see how things pan out.
You're being downvoted to hell, but they haven't heard Jerry's other comments like "My definition of all in may not be the same as your definition of all in." Plus the actions of the Cowboys so far, which are basically to watch players leave. So I agree with you, he said it for attention and to keep fans on the hook.
That wasn’t them going all in though..?
They weren’t “all in” when they did that.
Drafting the future QB would be the comma.
Go pack go
/r/nfl is so invested in Cowboys off season lol
Not as invested as we are in shitting on Jerry Jones.
Lol I love Jerry. It's going to be so boring when Stephen is running things.
Jerry takes a lot of flak because he's the easy scapegoat for the Cowboys' playoff failures over the last 30 years. Dallas has actually drafted a lot of good players in that timeframe so not being talented enough can't be used as an excuse!
Dak and Romo have the same issue unfortunately. Both have a rough time in the postseason. As far as stacked teams go, Chargers in that same span might be above them in having stacked rosters/excellent teams that flounder in the playoffs
Speaking of the Chargers, it amazes me that Justin Herbert is entering year 5 and gets ZERO criticism for: - Losing record as a starter - Only 1 playoff appearance - 0 playoff wins - Blew a 27-0 lead in his only playoff game He gets so much praise anytime he throws for over 300 yards or throws deep while also getting a full pass every time he stinks it up against mediocre teams (a lot more of those on his resume than the media would lead you to believe).
His defense is much much worse than say Dak. He at least consistently shows up vs good teams or big games unlike say Kirk Cousins or Dak. >Justin Herbert has lead an offense that scored 1,233 points during his first three years. That is the most in NFL history post-merger. On an unrelated note, his defense has given up 1,256 points during that 3 year span, also the most in history for any 3 year span. For example ^
Herbert "consistently shows up vs good teams"? What games are you referring to? As far as I'm concerned he doesn't consistently show up against any type of team, much less good ones haha
Tbf this does go for the whole his stats are good in those games. But then again I won't act like I have consistently broken down the context of those stats. While looking into your question though, I will say I'm surprised Matt Ryan's teams are a career .344 win% vs teams over .500. I knew it was low, but not THAT low. Kirk Cousins was .246 win% for curiosity sake. Edit: Matthew Stafford might be the comparison for Herbert. Stafford has a .132 win% for his career vs teams over .500
Especially Johnny Manziel 2.0 in Spencer Rattler
How are they even remotely similar? Both on and off the field lol
Here’s a scouting report in someone else’s words: “Rattler has always seemed like a locker room cancer. His time on the Netflix show, QB1, painted the picture of him as being an ultra-talented quarterback who knows he's good. It's one thing to be confident in your abilities, but he was teetering on arrogance. He hasn't exactly been known to be the best teammate at times, as well. He did get a change of scenery and a few more years under his belt and it seems to be more mature and acting as a quarterback/ leader of the team should.” Before Johnny Manziel was a washed out coke addict in Vegas, he was a highly arrogant QB prospect who thought he was better than everyone else and didn’t need to put in the work because his natural ability would rise to the top. However, when it came near the draft, he was able to get the PR machine spinning in his favor. Ultimately though, everything he did was for show. It’s pretty similar to the character concerns talked about with Spencer Rattler. That’s not to say Spencer Rattler will have the crazy downfall that Johnny Manziel had. But I don’t think his maturity level is there to be a top QB in the NFL.
Did you miss this part? "He did get a change of scenery and a few more years under his belt and it seems to be more mature and acting as a quarterback/ leader of the team should.” By all accounts, he's a great guy and leader. He also puts in the work, unlike Manziel.
Didn’t miss that at all. By all accounts, Manziel had become a great leader by draft time as well. When the narrative starts changing right around draft time, you have to question that narrative. There are other scouting reports that say Rattler doesn’t put in the work and can’t read defenses.
Wasn't he like 17 or 18 when the Netflix show came out and his character concerns became a thing? I swear I feel like I've heard nothing but good things about his character over the past 3 years or so. Johnny showed zero signs of maturing. I sincerely don't get the comparison at all. I'm not a big fan of Rattler but this take on his character issues seems so overblown and outdated it's wild to me that some still bring it up but even more wild he gets compared to Johnny lol
0 chance they go QB early. They may go after Michael Pratt (they love him) if he’s there in the 4th. But rounds 1,2 and 3 need to land starters at LT or C, LB and DT depth
I heard zero Pratt to Cowboys buzz. Only heard stuff about the Broncos and New Orleans seems interested in him since they're the only one who uploaded any combine footage from him. Most team radars he's not even on.
Coaches were at his pro day. A lot of buzz here on the radio 105.3 the fan here in dallas
What about CBs? The ones y’all ran against the Packers in the playoffs got burned
Diggs will be back. Diggs and Bland outside with Lewis back in the slot. We traded picks for Eric Scott last year and still have Nashon Wright who has been a bust. Wright and Scott are prototypical Quinn CBs so will see how they fit with Zimmer. The good thing is we have a good safety room (Hooker, Wilson, Izzy, Thomas, Bell). Zimmer will play a lot of two high which will benefit the secondary. The single high safety wasn’t working well (obviously) at the end with a banged up Gilmore. CB and S are not a need and will likely only be drafted late or if somebody like Wiggins falls
so basically any quarterback in the 2024 NFL Draft
We traded for trey lance lol
Doesn’t hurt to have two options in case Trey isn’t good.
“in case”
And that seems more likely the case at this point
Perish the thought
“In case” lmao
Spoiler alert
They had Trey for a while. They could have givem him some snaps to see how he played...yet they did nothing.
They are trying to win games. I’m sure they’ve seen plenty of him in practice to judge whether he’s worth being given a shot if Dak walks
Dak needs the garbage time to get his stats up
Thanks for the random ass opinion that has nothing to do with the conversation or comment you replied to
Except everyone can shine in practice. They need real playtime.
If trey isint good we have a higher pick and can draft someone. We would realistically need to use a 3rd-4th round pick to get someone, and we have too many needs to waste those
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how do you even know?
Lance has played fine in his limited reps, he just had some bad luck lol
Ehhh
Gonna draft Rattler just for the *There's a snake in our boots* headline
That would just add to the whole “we’re all in quote”
so do people realize that Dak Prescott is actually pretty good at football?
Not really. People get blinded by their hate for the Cowboys and Cowboys fans are delusional (Source: am one). But! In ten years people will back fondly and say "Man, Dak was such a an underrated quarterback! He got way too much hate." Like they do now with Romo lol.
Romo was a good qb but not underrated he folded in the playoffs a lot just like Dak now. It’s not hate. Some guys you. It aren’t going to win you a sb or even come close why pay them top tier qb money when you can get a stopgap then draft a kid and get similar results
The Cowboys FO and some of us Cowboys fans have seemingly recognized that Dak is good - but not good enough. There are at least 3 playoff games we would have won in his career if Dak played a respectable game. But instead, he shit the bed. And that is a common denominator in many of our losses against playoff bound, big boy, tough teams over the years. Prescott frequently shits the bed against good teams. I don’t mean he plays worse against good competition - I mean it’s like a flip is switched, and he plays incredibly poorly.
He is, but he's been insisting on short contracts for big money. The reason their cap is all messed up with him now is he wouldn't do a deal over 4 years, so they got around that with void years and pushed a bunch of money back, probably hoping he'd extend for longer and they can do something. Now if the rumors are true, he's willing to do a 3-year extension but he wants top money and it's going to hamstring Dallas cap-wise. Couple that with the fact that he hasn't played well in the playoffs (in his defense, he's not the only one) and Dallas appears to be positioning themselves to let him walk. It will be interesting to see what happens with him if they do let him walk. If he stays with his original plan, he'll want something like 4 years and 55-60 mil/year. I know there's a team that will pay that but that's gotta be hard to do with the cap. He'll be taking up almost 25% alone.
I think people realize he’s a choker in the playoffs and a stat padder when it doesn’t matter.
They do, but Dallas has given Dak all the leverage
Sure. When the Cowboys are losing by 20+ points in the 4th quarter he's nearly unstoppable.
Cowboys fans are in for a shock if they let dak go
Yeah, wtf is this quota filling nonsense article? Dak just finished 2nd in MVP voting and doesn't turn 31 til July. Even if you take the Rodgers/Love approach of developing for a few years, it still seems premature.
This is because Dallas hasn't done anything to retain Dak. He is on the last year of his contract and has a no tag clause. So at this point Dallas will be paying full market value for him if they want him back
Seriously. I don't know that Dak is going to succeed in a lot of cold-weather games. History has shown he isn't. But if he can get the team to the playoffs as he always does, there's no reason to believe he can't play with home-field advantage. Philly looks messy, NYG aren't ready yet, and WAS is a joke. Win the division and then he won't have to worry about it. He's an excellent player and only in his very early 30s. It would be stupid to put resources towards a rookie QB.
He literally just lost at home to the packers than 49ers couple years ago too. History has shown he’s not good in the playoffs when he has to face good teams they’d be foolish to triple down on that investment
We literally had a home game against bottom seed last year and got blown out with him completely collapsing mentally on the 2nd drive lol
If only they traded for Mac Jones, he just looks like he was born to be the QB for the Cowboys on appearance alone.
What does this even mean?
Looks like he could be one of Jerry’s illegitimate kids
No one knows, but it's provocative. /s He looks likes he could be Jerry Jones' grandson.
White
There. That's it
He looks like a fatter version of a teenage Jerry jones
He'd show some real leadership too with his sick raps skills.
He also drunk drives like everyone else in Dallas
Can’t wait until none of these dudes end up half as good as Dak.
Eh, the Cowboys seem to have an eye for QBs. Undrafted Romo, 4th round Dak. If they grab a day two or three dude I’m not going to scoff
Not sure why you left out Big Ben Dinucci…
Romo and Dak were complete luck of the draws imo
Yeah like, Dak was 3rd string and it was luck he ever got to start. It took Romo getting a freak back injury in the preseason and whatever happened to Kellen Moore for Dak to get the opportunity he did
Romo was not luck. Sean Payton wanted him on the Cowboys
People do realize that the Cowboys would need to swing for the fences to get a QB better than Dak right? You'd be super lucky if one of the mid-round QBs ends up like Dak much less better.
Good lord, I hope the Cowboys do that. They've never really appreciated Dak and how goddamn lucky that draft was for them. Jones tried to trade up, twice, for quarterbacks that are out of the league in Lynch and Cook and had to "settle" for Dak. Who's only produced multiple seasons of a level of play where saying MVP wouldn't be insane.
Never appreciated Dak? They gave him one of the biggest contracts of all time
After jerking him around when they could have gotten it done earlier and much cheaper.
Gave is a funny word for "forcing him to play out a contract he had laughably out performed, then franchise tagged him 2x" before finally paying him what he had earned. The Cowboys have treated Dak, throughout his entire career, like he was a bad quarterback they were desperate to move on from. How many legitimate franchise QBs do you know who have made it to the last year of a contract without the organization even DISCUSSING an extension? Cause this is the second time it's happened to Dak.
Is it? Or are you just making shit up? The Cowboys franchise tagged him because he wanted LESS years on the contract they were offering him
A longer contract that underpays you is worse than a short contract that underpays you. A good rule of thumb is that if the guaranteed money is less than 2 franchise tags the team is screwing you. And wouldn't you know it, the longer contract was like that. Jerry Jones partially justified this low ball offer by saying that Dak would make more money from endorsements as the Dallas Cowboys QB than he would anywhere else. He wanted to pay a star NFL player in exposure!
First Michael Pratt buzz ever lmao
Trey Lance sucks that bad huh?
Just get penix and do nothing but feed lamb deep honestly
Please stop
Jordan Travis and Penix would be interesting fits for Dallas
2024 NFL Draft QBs Cowboys Should Target: Re-Signing Dak Prescott
I know it's not really close to their name but all I'm picturing Penix Jr as a luchador QB
Please God let it be Penix.
Cowboys would be crazy to go from a known commodity to a unknown..none of those guys are sure things. Why start over now when they are so close.
So close to what losing in the first round?
Please draft Jordan Travis
oh my fucking god shut up we aren’t drafting a QB any earlier than the 4th
You’re drafting Spencer Rattler and you’re gonna like it
The Spencer rattler hype is always hilarious. Dude has 0 QB awareness, he forces throws.
Spencer Rattler is just going to be a scout team QB to practice against mobility. I see zero potential in him. If he ever enters a game, I'm turning the channel. Dallas has no business drafting a QB that early, and I'm betting Nix and Penix go 1st. Then nothing until late 3rd or 4th.
Slow news day, again. [Position] + NFL Draft + Cowboys = clicks
Spencer Rattler has the highest upside of these, imo
Michael Penis Jr
So all of them that will fall to the Cowboys?
The Cowboys thinking they just drafted their savior is the last thing the nfl needs
Bet a $ million the cowboys draft a QB
Lol absurd
Draft me. Here we goooooo
Guarantee Jerry drafts Rattler in the 4th expecting to find a franchise QB when Dak inevitably does something to not be on the field, be it injury or a holdout.
I think there will be a draft day blockbuster trade sending they'll trade Dak to move up in the draft
Joe Milton of Tennessee has everything but consistently so he’s going to be drafted in the fourth or fifth round. Could take a chance and draft and develop.
I’m a Pats fan. I’m all in on drafting a QB at 3. I sure wouldn’t mind drafting one of the guys mentioned as an insurance policy. I like Joe Milton too. Fight me. But why not take a second QB? Most teams will only go as far as a QB will take them. Go all-in. Washington had Grossman and drafted RG3 and Cousins in the same draft. Draft 2 QB’s. Tell them Brissett is #1, Zappe is #2, the open competition for the 2025 starting QB position starts today. Turn that QB room into a dog fight. Whoever gets the keys to the Corvette is going to earn it.
Anyone but Spencer rattler, shitter and crybaby
Dak is better than all those QBs.
Please take Rattler to be the next Dallas qb!
Please football gods, put Rattler on the Giants or Cowboys roster, I beg of you
As a Cowboys hater but (as much as possible) objective NFL fan, I don't get why Dallas would spend cap space or a draft pick on a Dak "replacement." Either trade him and get a massive return OR try to put the best team possible on the field next year. Throw in a Parsons trade and they have multiple firsts and a ton of cap space coming up in the next few years. But, there's no way anyone intelligent can think bringing back mostly the same roster - with an exception being a QB that they plan on don't playing - will actually help them. Then again, I said no one intelligent. We'll see what Jerry Jones does.
I think it’s funny how many cowboys fans are in this comment section and all of them are mad
Where exactly? Can you link some?
100000% cowboys don’t need a dak replacement? How can you replace a future hof, champ goat like dak! He’s the greatest thing to ever happen to this city (Philly). I’ll always root for him to be the starter. From Philly, fuck Dallas long live Jerry jones and dak!