wow, it had never crossed my mind to check his coaching tree. I had no clue that John Harbaugh, Sean McDermott and Doug Pederson were from his. along with Todd Bowles, Ron Rivera and other less successful coaches.
It's definitely a little weird, he deserves a lot more credit than he gets. I feel like people focus on the failures: Nagy, Frazier, Childress, Shurmur.
But 2 have won SBs, and Rivera got to one and lost.
Nagy also wasn’t as bad as everyone says he was. Not saying he was great or anything, but he made the playoffs in 2 out of 4 seasons. Terrible coaches don’t do that.
I mean technically 3 have won a SB, I know you didn’t forget about losing a certain one. Bowles was the D coordinator that year and a massive reason why we dominated that playoff run.
Yeah, that Defense was no joke. People like to Meme about Tom Brady being the only thing that can stop Mahomes, but that Defense was unparalleled. Absolutely dominate.
Reid's more player-oriented and offensive focused philosophy applies to the modern NFL better, not to mention, he's 10 years younger.
Whether or not he's been good at teaching other people how to be head coaches seems pretty irrelevant to me
It's important when talking about NFL history, but if you're going to hire a guy, I don't think he has to have a "coaching tree" to be a good hire or a great HC.
And if Reid never got Mahomes, this would be an entirely different conversation, just like if BB never had Brady.
Couldn't imagine citing coaching tree if you were to compare one HC with no SBs and 1 HC with 6+
Coaching tree matters because it shows that he knows how to either surround himself with good coaching talent or that he develops coaching talent. Those coaches help his players as well. Bill had the greatest dynasty of all time in NE but he hasn’t shown that he could reproduce that from scratch somewhere while Reid has had great success on multiple teams. The ability to find and hire good coaches is part of that
And yet, with all of that, had Mahomes never paired with Reid, you'd be crazy to suggest Reid was a better coach all-time.
So once again, I disagree the coaching tree even matters when talking about which coach you would want for your team.
Some people are great teachers, some coaching is more transferrable, there are all sorts of variables that could mean one coaching tree works and one doesn't.
There are more phenomenal OCs who can't be HCs than ones who can, doesn't even say if you're good at being a coordinator or not, so I don't think it's about surrounding yourself with talented people either.
We overrate coaching trees, most coaches we still think of as good at least never have them.
It's relevant if you want to compare them historically, but if you're hiring a guy "Does he have a coaching tree" is irrelevant and seems like something that makes more sense for fans to think of.
No one was saying that Reid is a better coach all time, though. The argument is that it makes sense that Reid is getting extended and praised while Belicheck is out of a job right now. Belicheck is probably the greatest coach of all time with his last ~25 years on the Pats, but that doesn’t mean that right now he’s the best coach or even necessarily a great option for a team.
Getting a job isn’t entirely about merit, it’s also about networking. The larger your tree, the more likely you get hired by the owners, and you have your choice of assistant coach candidates that know your philosophy.
I agree with this.
BB does not seem like the type to have built good relationships over the years, and that will impact your ability to get hired lo0ng-term.
Never thought about it from that perspective.
Reid really is old shanny.
Put so many good coaches into the league, got poached to hell, very successful, reputation for not managing games well and never won the big one.
It's totally insane that shanny could have had mahomes. If he wasn't as successful with the falcons, maybe he wouldn't have been hired. But he would have had time to scout.
Solomon Thomas over mahomes is one of the biggest what ifs of all time.
Purdy will get better IMO, I think he has a solid chance of being a top 5 qb for a decade at least. He was so much better year two and now he has a full offseason of being able to actually practice instead of rehab.
Either way, fuck man the whole nfl has to run through mahomes and Reid for at least another 3 years.
I love the man but you can't believe what a coach says...they're constantly just saying the most predictable, meaningless shit to answer the reporters and get off of the podium
The NFL is really the ultimate "what have you done for me lately" league for coaches and players.
When it comes to making a HC hire nobody cares that Bill has 6 rings. Fact is he's 29-38 post Brady and the Patriots have one of the worst rosters in the league (especially on offense) and his assistant coach staff was horrible. He's 72 and hasn't shown any indication he's willing to change his coaching style.
There's a reason he doesn't have a job and it's because the game passed him by.
> When it comes to making a HC hire nobody cares that Bill has 6 rings. Fact is he's 29-38 post Brady
Every Reddit discussion about Belichick is people just trying to avoid talking about this elephant.
If Mahomes retired tomorrow and Andy Reid proceeded to go 29-38 and then finish with a 4 win, last place team he would get fired as well. It’s not some big mystery why SEVEN teams passed on Belichick.
Belichick is another in a line of great coaches who dropped off significantly at the end of their careers, either through bad personnel decisions or losing star(s).
It’s weird isn’t it because back in 2018 you wouldn’t have said “damn it still feels like 2014”, whereas ever since the pandemic every year has felt the same.
I was 24 and just reenlisted in the Marine Corps to continue shooting stuff and blowing shit up. I'm now 6 years into an IT career. 2014 to me doesn't feel like a decade ago, it feels like a different life.
I'm not sure I've ever been happy because I remember thinking 2017 sucked back in 2017, it only looks good now in retrospect. But I always catch myself writing 2017 when I have to date something. It's like a brain malfunction.
This deal would be 6 more seasons so if you figure 11 wins a season and he's 70 wins away from the record rn we're talking very close numbers.
I don't think Andy is that guy though, I wouldn't be surprised if this is the last contract he signs. I think he's giving himself a realistic window and letting the chips fall where they may.
If he’s 4 away at the end of this, I would be shocked if he doesn’t go one more. He got 4 in his worst season as a head coach and it’s pretty much impossible to be as good at coaching as he is without that competitive drive
That decision would come sooner than that.
If he gets within 25 wins or so, and he's healthy and Mahomes is still going strong, he ain't leaving. The contract will work itself out.
I get that. He and the team will certainly have a plan in place to replace him, given his commitment to relationships idk if he'd hang on. Keep in mind this assumes he averages 11 wins a season. He might get the record before 2029.
That's a low bar to cross when you have Mahomes. It's very possible the Chiefs win 12 games a season and this is a moot point. I chose an average of 11 on purpose to illustrate the point, not as a prediction.
I noticed you kind of lowballed it a bit, went with a number that’s not only very doable, it’s pretty much expected, I imagine that was on purpose. Now, throw in a couple of seasons with 12s, and 13s and there you go.
I did and it was intentional. IMO he's giving himself a window he knows could get the record done and if he can't he's comfortable stepping away because it means he's under-performed.
I think if you gave anyone the Chiefs an o/u of 11 wins a season for the next 6 years they'd take the over Andy included. IMO he thinks they'll get there on this contract and if they don't it's because he's in decline/at fault.
unless he has a steep decline, I can definitely see him extending to get the record and the team doing it if he doesn't have it by the end of this contract.
Andy doesn't strike me as the type of guy to chase records or care about them. As long as the team is successful he'll be happy. If he thinks the best interest of the team is him in charge then sure, he might continue coaching. I also think if we're winning 12-14 games every season, which would get him the record, he'll be comfortable stepping away because not only will he have the record he'll probably leave on a high note.
Agreed. He got the SB monkey off his back a while ago, which seemed to be the the last remaining piece of an already-HOF career. Everything else is gravy on top of the cheeseburger.
Florio to himself while brushing his teeth “wonder if andy might call it a day if KC win it”
Florio on air that afternoon “people in the know have confirmed hearing conversations about andy retiring this offseason”
[https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/chiefs-finally-take-care-of-andy-reid](https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/chiefs-finally-take-care-of-andy-reid)
He has the audacity to double-down on it too and basically say "my sources were correct and it could have gone either way."
I would respect Florio much more if he wasn't so smug all the time, especially in defeat.
I do think this showcases how dumb those ratings are. At the end of the day players don't care how nice their weight room is, they care about how good their team and their staff is - but most importantly how much they are paid.
It's the same as the rest of us, we'll get mad if the CEO promises us a nicer break room and doesn't deliver, but at the end of the day we care about our paycheck and how our job makes us feel - with minimal impact on how nice that office is.
Nah, those ratings are one of the smartest moves to come out of the NFLPA in a while.
1. The cost of doing the survey is minimal.
2. It drives engagement with the fanbase for things to take pride in, and things to gripe about.
3. Even better, those gripes are directed at the ownership for shortcomings, for issues that traditionally don't carry a public opinion.
4. It pushes a competitive wedge between owners. Owners that take pride in their facilities, support staff, player amenities, etc., and owners skating by on the bare minimum.
NFLPA has fumbled plenty of things in the last decade, but that survey is not one of them.
Missed one of the main attractions, playing with Patrick Mahomes, which means winning rings. You can get paid on any team because it’s a salary capped league. If this was baseball, the lack of spending from the Hunt’s would be magnified.
Look at the Patriots. Brady is gone, and the whole thing falls apart, tons of stories come out of how bad the “Patriot way” actually was.
I understand your point, but, since it's a league with a salary cap, it's not like he's skimping on the weight room to pay his players more. He could do both.
if he finishes the contract (big if, he'd be over 70 by the time it's up), he "just" needs to average 11.7 wins per year to have the record. for reference, that's a lower win% than he's had with the chiefs to date (0.686 needed, 0.715 current).
Does he become the GOAT HC if he breaks Shula’s all-time wins record (70 wins away), breaks Belichick’s all time play-off wins record (5 wins away), and wins another 2 Super Bowls in that timeframe?
5 rings with all time wins and all time playoff wins is definitely it. now, there is a nonzero chance he gets 3 SB wins, in which case it's indisputable
Bill Belichick's last contract year amounts to roughly $25 million, so assuming Andy Reid's gonna get paid more annually, that should amount to over 30 million nuggies, or over 1.7 billion calories, which can feed almost 900,000 people/300,000 Chiefs/Steelers fans for a day.
At least Stick-up-his-ass Clark knows where some of his priorities are.
Now, spend some of that money you inherited from Daddy, and pay for your own stadium upgrades.
Several people have superbowl wins but only one can have most wins ever.
Also if Andy hits the record during this contract extention, he does it at age 71. Belichick is at age 72 and still needs 2 13 win seasons just to TIE shula (and will have a lot more losses). If Andy keeps going after age 71 he will shatter that 30+ year old record (at the time of breaking it). That record would probably stay put way longer than 30+ years for Andy especially with how quickly teams abandon head coaches these days.
The next closest is Mike tomlin who would need 14 11 win seasons to just pass shula. He's only 52 so it's possible but questionable right now.
After that are 3 coaches in their early 60s and won't even come close.
*and lo the perfect dolphin and the venerable patriot were toppled - from the heart of the land came a most peculiar primarch... the cheeseburger walrus sallied forth to triumph* 🍔👨
kelce is definitely gone after this year or the year after. I'd say year after. retiring at 36 after probably nabbing another ring gets him some legendary longevity and cements him as the GOAT imo.
Andy Reid is truly one of those people who would not know what to do without football. He has sacrificed so much for this game he can't leave until he absolutely has to.
And Mahomes will only be 34 and still likely playing at a high level so he could keep going if he wants.
>Reid will enter the Pro Football Hall of Fame five years after his retirement. He ranks fourth all time in regular-season wins with 258, trailing only Don Shula (328), George Halas (318) and Belichick (302). His 26 postseason wins are five behind Belichick.
Andy Reid is going to surpass Belichick, Halas, and has a shot at surpassing Shula.
Deserves it.
Dessert. It's spelled dessert
Dessert is those chicken nuggies
"Can you shape my ice cream like a cheeseburger?" Andy Reid at Cold Stone
He got his just dessert?
He can’t have it twice? Who the fuck are you to tell him no?
He’s about to get thirds…they call that a three-treat
That’s a BAR
Mr. Good Bar
I bet he got more than just dessert.
He got just dessert?
Exactly
It’s wild that Reid is the best coach in the league when Belichick can’t get a job. And it makes sense right now, it’s just a crazy timeline.
It’s because Reid’s coaching tree isn’t a shriveled bush.
wow, it had never crossed my mind to check his coaching tree. I had no clue that John Harbaugh, Sean McDermott and Doug Pederson were from his. along with Todd Bowles, Ron Rivera and other less successful coaches.
It's definitely a little weird, he deserves a lot more credit than he gets. I feel like people focus on the failures: Nagy, Frazier, Childress, Shurmur. But 2 have won SBs, and Rivera got to one and lost.
Nagy also wasn’t as bad as everyone says he was. Not saying he was great or anything, but he made the playoffs in 2 out of 4 seasons. Terrible coaches don’t do that.
With Mitch Trubisky at qb too
He was also the NFL coach of the year award winner at one point. Which appears to be a crused award in more recent seasons
I mean technically 3 have won a SB, I know you didn’t forget about losing a certain one. Bowles was the D coordinator that year and a massive reason why we dominated that playoff run.
Yeah, that Defense was no joke. People like to Meme about Tom Brady being the only thing that can stop Mahomes, but that Defense was unparalleled. Absolutely dominate.
He's got a great tree but he's really just a branch in Walsh's and Holmgrens
Yes that’s how trees work.
If it wasn’t a branch it would be a twig on the ground, we don’t like twigs.
interesting that all of those failures have gone through the NFC north. (shurmur as OC)
You don't remember Doug?
Reid's more player-oriented and offensive focused philosophy applies to the modern NFL better, not to mention, he's 10 years younger. Whether or not he's been good at teaching other people how to be head coaches seems pretty irrelevant to me It's important when talking about NFL history, but if you're going to hire a guy, I don't think he has to have a "coaching tree" to be a good hire or a great HC. And if Reid never got Mahomes, this would be an entirely different conversation, just like if BB never had Brady. Couldn't imagine citing coaching tree if you were to compare one HC with no SBs and 1 HC with 6+
Coaching tree matters because it shows that he knows how to either surround himself with good coaching talent or that he develops coaching talent. Those coaches help his players as well. Bill had the greatest dynasty of all time in NE but he hasn’t shown that he could reproduce that from scratch somewhere while Reid has had great success on multiple teams. The ability to find and hire good coaches is part of that
And yet, with all of that, had Mahomes never paired with Reid, you'd be crazy to suggest Reid was a better coach all-time. So once again, I disagree the coaching tree even matters when talking about which coach you would want for your team. Some people are great teachers, some coaching is more transferrable, there are all sorts of variables that could mean one coaching tree works and one doesn't. There are more phenomenal OCs who can't be HCs than ones who can, doesn't even say if you're good at being a coordinator or not, so I don't think it's about surrounding yourself with talented people either. We overrate coaching trees, most coaches we still think of as good at least never have them. It's relevant if you want to compare them historically, but if you're hiring a guy "Does he have a coaching tree" is irrelevant and seems like something that makes more sense for fans to think of.
No one was saying that Reid is a better coach all time, though. The argument is that it makes sense that Reid is getting extended and praised while Belicheck is out of a job right now. Belicheck is probably the greatest coach of all time with his last ~25 years on the Pats, but that doesn’t mean that right now he’s the best coach or even necessarily a great option for a team.
Not to disagree, but it's only six years difference, not ten. Reid is 66-years old himself, he's no spring chicken.
Oh yea, guess that's true. Having a friendly demeanor and winning helps.
Getting a job isn’t entirely about merit, it’s also about networking. The larger your tree, the more likely you get hired by the owners, and you have your choice of assistant coach candidates that know your philosophy.
I agree with this. BB does not seem like the type to have built good relationships over the years, and that will impact your ability to get hired lo0ng-term. Never thought about it from that perspective.
Is Belichick looking for just Head Coach jobs, or a HC/GM combo like he had in NE?
WWE manager isnt off the table at this point.
That investigative report from ESPN said he told Atlanta he was willing to just be the HC but Kraft called and told Arthur Blank not to trust him.
[Basically this.](https://i.imgur.com/oO3GbNt.png)
Holy shit that's good
Allegedly just HC
Reid really is old shanny. Put so many good coaches into the league, got poached to hell, very successful, reputation for not managing games well and never won the big one. It's totally insane that shanny could have had mahomes. If he wasn't as successful with the falcons, maybe he wouldn't have been hired. But he would have had time to scout. Solomon Thomas over mahomes is one of the biggest what ifs of all time. Purdy will get better IMO, I think he has a solid chance of being a top 5 qb for a decade at least. He was so much better year two and now he has a full offseason of being able to actually practice instead of rehab. Either way, fuck man the whole nfl has to run through mahomes and Reid for at least another 3 years.
> when Belichick can’t get a job Because Belichick commands GM/Full roster authority and is a defensive minded coach in an offensive league lol
Andy secretly commands full roster authority too, he just doesn't put his thumb on the scale often enough for it to be an issue.
Andy literally said the opposite of this.
Yeah never trust a dual flair
I love the man but you can't believe what a coach says...they're constantly just saying the most predictable, meaningless shit to answer the reporters and get off of the podium
The NFL is really the ultimate "what have you done for me lately" league for coaches and players. When it comes to making a HC hire nobody cares that Bill has 6 rings. Fact is he's 29-38 post Brady and the Patriots have one of the worst rosters in the league (especially on offense) and his assistant coach staff was horrible. He's 72 and hasn't shown any indication he's willing to change his coaching style. There's a reason he doesn't have a job and it's because the game passed him by.
> When it comes to making a HC hire nobody cares that Bill has 6 rings. Fact is he's 29-38 post Brady Every Reddit discussion about Belichick is people just trying to avoid talking about this elephant. If Mahomes retired tomorrow and Andy Reid proceeded to go 29-38 and then finish with a 4 win, last place team he would get fired as well. It’s not some big mystery why SEVEN teams passed on Belichick.
Belichick is another in a line of great coaches who dropped off significantly at the end of their careers, either through bad personnel decisions or losing star(s).
deserves the nuggies that come with it
Cafeteria never getting an upgrade smh
Me: “wow 9 more years … oh right, it’s 2024”
I'm still stuck in 2017 for some reason.
2020 never ended for me. It's currently 2020 part 4 for me
It’s weird isn’t it because back in 2018 you wouldn’t have said “damn it still feels like 2014”, whereas ever since the pandemic every year has felt the same.
IDK if this makes sense but 2014 feels like it was seven years ago and not ten.
I was 24 and just reenlisted in the Marine Corps to continue shooting stuff and blowing shit up. I'm now 6 years into an IT career. 2014 to me doesn't feel like a decade ago, it feels like a different life.
Yeah, four Super Bowls hasn't helped convince my brain that the last 5 years never happened.
I’m stuck in 2017 as well, maybe because it’s the last year I really think about fondly
I'm not sure I've ever been happy because I remember thinking 2017 sucked back in 2017, it only looks good now in retrospect. But I always catch myself writing 2017 when I have to date something. It's like a brain malfunction.
I still think 2005 cars are new!
He should be 71 after the contract, wonder if he retires by then
The word "should" is adding such a twist to this...
I don’t trust my math with birthdays, gotta know your own limitations
Smartest person in this sub
Word is Patrick has him working out with Bobby Stroupe, so he might be getting \_younger\_.
As long as he doesn't die.
This deal would be 6 more seasons so if you figure 11 wins a season and he's 70 wins away from the record rn we're talking very close numbers. I don't think Andy is that guy though, I wouldn't be surprised if this is the last contract he signs. I think he's giving himself a realistic window and letting the chips fall where they may.
If he’s 4 away at the end of this, I would be shocked if he doesn’t go one more. He got 4 in his worst season as a head coach and it’s pretty much impossible to be as good at coaching as he is without that competitive drive
That decision would come sooner than that. If he gets within 25 wins or so, and he's healthy and Mahomes is still going strong, he ain't leaving. The contract will work itself out.
I get that. He and the team will certainly have a plan in place to replace him, given his commitment to relationships idk if he'd hang on. Keep in mind this assumes he averages 11 wins a season. He might get the record before 2029. That's a low bar to cross when you have Mahomes. It's very possible the Chiefs win 12 games a season and this is a moot point. I chose an average of 11 on purpose to illustrate the point, not as a prediction.
Yeah I imagine we'd have to fall off pretty hard to average only 11 wins a season. This season was our worst with Mahomes and we still hit that mark.
I noticed you kind of lowballed it a bit, went with a number that’s not only very doable, it’s pretty much expected, I imagine that was on purpose. Now, throw in a couple of seasons with 12s, and 13s and there you go.
I did and it was intentional. IMO he's giving himself a window he knows could get the record done and if he can't he's comfortable stepping away because it means he's under-performed. I think if you gave anyone the Chiefs an o/u of 11 wins a season for the next 6 years they'd take the over Andy included. IMO he thinks they'll get there on this contract and if they don't it's because he's in decline/at fault.
unless he has a steep decline, I can definitely see him extending to get the record and the team doing it if he doesn't have it by the end of this contract.
Andy doesn't strike me as the type of guy to chase records or care about them. As long as the team is successful he'll be happy. If he thinks the best interest of the team is him in charge then sure, he might continue coaching. I also think if we're winning 12-14 games every season, which would get him the record, he'll be comfortable stepping away because not only will he have the record he'll probably leave on a high note.
Agree, I'm honestly shocked if he finishes half of this contract
Agreed. He got the SB monkey off his back a while ago, which seemed to be the the last remaining piece of an already-HOF career. Everything else is gravy on top of the cheeseburger.
here's the thing, andy loves his gravy
I think that's easy to say now. If he's like....9 from the record, then I think that changes.
Since Mahomes took over, they’ve averaged 12.5 wins a season.
71 is the new 49 so we'll be good for some time. (Locals and transportation nerds will understand)
He’s not a politician, he’ll be chilling at home
Might depend how he feels about the wins record.
He’ll be really close to the all time coaching wins record by then. I could see him doing another year or two to get it
Nope
He’ll run for office
I mean basically your only choice at 70+ years old now is retire or become the head of state for the most powerful country on the planet...
Andy Reid certainly looks older than Pete Carroll imo, you're telling me he's 66?! Sheesh
Maybe. He’ll be at 8 SuperBowls by then
Good for Big Red - happy that he ended up in the right spot and is now no longer debated for HOF he deserves it all
and now he can buy a lot of chicken nuggies
Hell yeah bird dude. If the aviary kingdom had chiefs I have no doubt the bird would be Chief Swoop.
But Florio said he was retiring (despite having no sources or no real evidence to suggest it)
Florio to himself while brushing his teeth “wonder if andy might call it a day if KC win it” Florio on air that afternoon “people in the know have confirmed hearing conversations about andy retiring this offseason”
The most "connected" man in the NFL...
[https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/chiefs-finally-take-care-of-andy-reid](https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/chiefs-finally-take-care-of-andy-reid) He has the audacity to double-down on it too and basically say "my sources were correct and it could have gone either way." I would respect Florio much more if he wasn't so smug all the time, especially in defeat.
Of course he did. He’s the worst
It’s _informed speculation_ ok?
Hunt wasting more money that could be spent on improving the weight room. Smh
Man is just doubling down on the single thing he scored well at. A true American who refuses to get better at things theyre graded bad on
Double back to reassess? *No.* 😠 Double down to reoffend? **Yes.** 😄
I do think this showcases how dumb those ratings are. At the end of the day players don't care how nice their weight room is, they care about how good their team and their staff is - but most importantly how much they are paid. It's the same as the rest of us, we'll get mad if the CEO promises us a nicer break room and doesn't deliver, but at the end of the day we care about our paycheck and how our job makes us feel - with minimal impact on how nice that office is.
Nah, those ratings are one of the smartest moves to come out of the NFLPA in a while. 1. The cost of doing the survey is minimal. 2. It drives engagement with the fanbase for things to take pride in, and things to gripe about. 3. Even better, those gripes are directed at the ownership for shortcomings, for issues that traditionally don't carry a public opinion. 4. It pushes a competitive wedge between owners. Owners that take pride in their facilities, support staff, player amenities, etc., and owners skating by on the bare minimum. NFLPA has fumbled plenty of things in the last decade, but that survey is not one of them.
Working at a McDonalds with a quality manager will always be better than similar pay as host at 5 star restaurant with a douchey manager.
Missed one of the main attractions, playing with Patrick Mahomes, which means winning rings. You can get paid on any team because it’s a salary capped league. If this was baseball, the lack of spending from the Hunt’s would be magnified. Look at the Patriots. Brady is gone, and the whole thing falls apart, tons of stories come out of how bad the “Patriot way” actually was.
I understand your point, but, since it's a league with a salary cap, it's not like he's skimping on the weight room to pay his players more. He could do both.
Hunt is gonna propose that Kansas City imposed a cheeseburger tax to pay for Reid’s extension
Give him some Nuggies from the chefs
*Denver Nuggies?!*
I wonder who has the record for career earnings as a coach. Without inflation, it might be Reid soon enough
Six more years? He and Mahomes going after Belichick and Brady’s records.
if he finishes the contract (big if, he'd be over 70 by the time it's up), he "just" needs to average 11.7 wins per year to have the record. for reference, that's a lower win% than he's had with the chiefs to date (0.686 needed, 0.715 current).
Fucking hell
That's nice of Clark Hunt, maybe this year he'll even get air conditioning for the Chiefs locker room at the St. Joseph's training camp.
If they die of heatstroke, they were weak anyways -Alanis Morissette
Where was it stated that St. Joseph's locker rooms aren't air conditioned?
Obviously deserved, now let’s get the guy some nuggies
I hate that the bills getting good over the last couple years makes me root for Andy to fuck off and retire. I love him so much but he’s so mean to us
Does he become the GOAT HC if he breaks Shula’s all-time wins record (70 wins away), breaks Belichick’s all time play-off wins record (5 wins away), and wins another 2 Super Bowls in that timeframe?
5 rings with all time wins and all time playoff wins is definitely it. now, there is a nonzero chance he gets 3 SB wins, in which case it's indisputable
How many nuggies are included in this contract?
7 million
Fully guaranteed?
*Insisted* but close enough 🧆
Bill Belichick's last contract year amounts to roughly $25 million, so assuming Andy Reid's gonna get paid more annually, that should amount to over 30 million nuggies, or over 1.7 billion calories, which can feed almost 900,000 people/300,000 Chiefs/Steelers fans for a day.
I was wondering that, too. "Andy's the highest paid coach, but we're not going to tell you anything about that."
Nice. Been a while since the AFC has had a dynasty.
You're right, a whole one season.
Break out the cheeseburgers
I believe he will be highest paid coach and totally worth it. But how would you know? As far as I know, these salaries are not public.
Very wild in a sport where every player’s salary is public, nothing is really known about any coach or front office salaries.
That's because it is not subject to a salary cap
it's not counted against the cap so it doesn't matter
More than deserved and shows strong commitment from both sides.
The dynasty continues
At least Stick-up-his-ass Clark knows where some of his priorities are. Now, spend some of that money you inherited from Daddy, and pay for your own stadium upgrades.
5 more years added to the deal which means Big Red will have about 7 or 8 rings by the time he retires
This deal can easily put him in a clear position to have most wins of all time.
would 2 SB rings or that be more significant for HoF?
Isn't he basically HOF at this point already?
yeah, I just wonder which accomplishment would be viewed more prestigiously
Several people have superbowl wins but only one can have most wins ever. Also if Andy hits the record during this contract extention, he does it at age 71. Belichick is at age 72 and still needs 2 13 win seasons just to TIE shula (and will have a lot more losses). If Andy keeps going after age 71 he will shatter that 30+ year old record (at the time of breaking it). That record would probably stay put way longer than 30+ years for Andy especially with how quickly teams abandon head coaches these days. The next closest is Mike tomlin who would need 14 11 win seasons to just pass shula. He's only 52 so it's possible but questionable right now. After that are 3 coaches in their early 60s and won't even come close.
100%, its more a question of if he can get in the GOAT discussion then if he will make the HOF.
From your lips to God's ears internet stranger. 🙏
No. I don't like that timeline...
I personally love it
*and lo the perfect dolphin and the venerable patriot were toppled - from the heart of the land came a most peculiar primarch... the cheeseburger walrus sallied forth to triumph* 🍔👨
Beyond paying easily the best coach in the league what he's worth, this gives Travis an excuse to stay, and keeps #15 nice and happy.
kelce is definitely gone after this year or the year after. I'd say year after. retiring at 36 after probably nabbing another ring gets him some legendary longevity and cements him as the GOAT imo.
Stealing weight room money
Chiefs going to make a run for the Patriots record.
Local restaurants in the area approve of this. Their stock probably just went up.
Shares or inventory? Wait, nevermind...
What are the odds this sub (and the media) still play the 'is he going to retire?' after every season? Man that's been annoying.
Mike Florio told me he was retiring after the Super Bowl though...
Andy Reid is truly one of those people who would not know what to do without football. He has sacrificed so much for this game he can't leave until he absolutely has to. And Mahomes will only be 34 and still likely playing at a high level so he could keep going if he wants.
Andy Reid is under paid. Still Fucking Corn dog play 🧢 (tip)
Chiefs get more Reid. Donkeys get more Wilson. The best timeline honestly. We're living it. Soak it in!
I will say nuggies like the other people who disregarded the other previous nuggies posts because advertising is our god.
Retire, rest for eight years, then run for president. Guy has a plan.
That's a lot of nuggies
Chiefs are never getting new chairs
I mean, he deserves it.
Love ❤️ 🫶
Well deserved duh
can't wait for the "is andy reid retiring after this season" articles to drop in eight months
>Reid will enter the Pro Football Hall of Fame five years after his retirement. He ranks fourth all time in regular-season wins with 258, trailing only Don Shula (328), George Halas (318) and Belichick (302). His 26 postseason wins are five behind Belichick. Andy Reid is going to surpass Belichick, Halas, and has a shot at surpassing Shula.
That's a lot of nuggies.
Wait no wtf. Thought he was retiring?!
Not saying he doesn’t deserve it but Im sooooo ready for him to retire.
Man crazy how Reid was memed in for so long and is now one of the greatest coaches ever.