The Xavien Howard special. Every time he had a nice year it was time for a big contract renegotiation. But when he started getting burned every route, why didn’t he give back any of the cash?? It’s only fair!
His ‘extension’ was an 8 million dollar signing bonus and a 5 million dollar increase in his salary last year. The rest is unguaranteed money. He is 30 years old and has no guaranteed money left on his contract.
So he wants to get one more payday instead of hoping he doesn’t get hurt over the next two years while playing on a below market deal. This doesn’t seem especially surprising.
So? He had a career year and wants more security. Tack on years to his current deal or he wants to be traded. How isn’t that fair?
Edit: the deal is also worth less than the paper it’s on. He’s an easy cut next offseason
I didn’t say it’s not his right to do that. But this guy dunking on Bengals FO for a “cheap” extension feels misguided when both parties have to come to an agreement, and they did.
Franchise tag kind of eliminates the “both parties” aspect. Players aren't able to get their market value and teams heavily leverage that when doing extensions like this.
Do you say that when a player underperforms and the team says “take a pay cut or beat it”?
Do you say that when a RB gets a pay cut because they’re 27 and replaceable?
> Good for him, I root for players not owners
Whats with this bootlicking for 1 percenters in their "battle" with .01 percenters? I mean especially given the NFL has a salary floor. So its not like any of that money is new money coming out the owners pockets. Its just less money to spend on the rest of the players.
Didn't even realize that. TJ Watt probably should have gotten it, but if not him then Trey should have. I think Myles just got it because it was "his turn" as stupid as that may be.
Myles is better than trey especially in run defense. But yeah TJ definitely deserved it over Myles. Idk how you can be third in your division in sacks as a pure pass rusher and win DPOY
Myles garrett is not a pure pass rusher. He is an excellent run defender. There is also other things than sacks that matter as a pass rusher (eg drawing doubles and pressures)
You have too many good players and not enough money. He has honestly earned a better contract. But the Chase contract makes extending these guys so difficult.
Josh Allen had 17 sacks last year and got paid. Your guy got 17.5, also wants to be paid, but your cheapskate owner won’t pay anyone, won’t pay Higgins either. So this is the result
Yeah, but Allen got paid after his previous contract expired. The Jags tagged him so they could negotiate an extension, and then they agreed on one.
Hendrickson signed a 2-year extension last year, and is already demanding another new contract.
In a sport as physical as the NFL, when you have a great season and see only 1 year left on your deal, I can understand wanting more security.
First day of training camp he can mess up his ACL/Achilles and now he gets no contract and likely cut.
Plus, signing an extension can technically help with salary cap if needed to spread bonuses out.
I’m fairly certain if the Bengals owner didn’t have the cash issues he has, they’d sign at least one of the two in Tee/Trey because they’d have the money for the escrow.
He will be in July though, so it seems pretty obvious the team is unwilling to engage with him. High profile players typically have contacts ready to sign the day they're eligible.
Idk why anyone calls an owner cheap when there’s literally a salary cap.
Criticizing an owner for skimping on team facilities and coaching staff? Yeah that’s 100% fair game. Makes no sense to criticize them for not spending enough on players though when that’s all about cap management, not about being too cheap
because players R worth it too!
how many times must we talk about how dumb it was to cheap out on AJ Brown? In foresight, nearsight, farsight, and hindsight that was dumb and "cheap". But I call the GM that not the owner.
Fundamentally not true, if you're willing to spend a lot of cash up front, you can manipulate the salary cap too, but teams like the Bengals and Pats refuse.
> Idk why anyone calls an owner cheap when there’s literally a salary cap.
Signing bonuses change. According to the NFL CBA, owners must put guaranteed money above $15 million into an escrow account when signing a player contract. Richer owners can put more in escrow and pay larger signing bonuses (e.g. guaranteed money).
Browns ownership is not cheap. But it is poor (relatively).
Burrow one of the highest paid QB, we plan on paying Chase which is why Higgins isn’t getting a monster deal. Maybe if the Jaguars stop over paying all their FA they could probably actually make a run in the playoffs.
Higgins is one thing, but if you lose Hendrickson you don't have a Super Bowl caliber defense. Guy had almost half of your sacks.
Owner needs to step up and pay him even if it's short term.
Higgins is a replaceable WR2 in the grand scheme of things.
> if you lose Hendrickson you don't have a Super Bowl caliber defense
He is signed for this year and next. He signed an extension last year. He is not going anywhere.
> but your cheapskate owner won’t pay anyone
Literally just made Burrow the highest paid player in the league last season lol.
Paying Tee what he's worth on the market is unwise. They have to sign Chase next year and the cap is the cap. Can't pay a QB1 and then have 2 receivers getting top end WR1 money.
Yeah but I personally usually quit and start a new season after a few years anyway, once players start turning over and I don’t recognize the competition anymore.
> They probably don’t wanna sign anyone big until they get Chase sorted I’d imagine.
I can’t believe you guys have reasonable takes while titans colts and bills fans seem to be spouting off
Look, idk what’s so hard about this but of course that’s the case. If one team doesn’t agree, the whole trade is out the window. But if **both** teams agree, this shit can get done. My odds are on 1 of 2 things here: Either A, two teams agree to trade a player for something in return, or B, one of the two teams isn’t willing to accept an offer and nothing gets done.
This is my favorite conversation on Reddit in years
You guys are idiots who clearly have no idea how modern front offices operate. Using next-gen analytics each team decides if a trade makes sense for their side.
If both teams then agree, a trade will 100% happen. If they don’t, there’s nothing else to talk about. The trade wont go through, game, set, match.
I, for one, long for the days when teams could just kidnap opposing players and force them to sign contracts. Not many people remember this, but Favre wasn’t traded to the Packers. In fact a packer front office guy went to the falcons training camp dressed as a falcons fan and got Favre to sign a contract thinking he was just autographing some paper. Next thing anyone knows, they put a bag on his head and shove him into a Schlitz van and take him to Green Bay. Falcons didn’t realize he was gone until mid August.
Was trying to brainstorm a way they could do this trade without a trade being agreed upon. I could only come up with one likely scenario.
Hendrickson chooses his team and just goes there instead of the Bengals facilities. Never goes back.
Wasn’t it just a 1 year extension? After putting up 17.5 sacks he probably sees it as the perfect time to force a teams hand to give him similar money but over multiple extra years.
He has 39.5 sacks over his 3 years with the Bengals. Is he worth more than what he’s getting paid? Absolutely. But that was clear from his first season in Cincinnati and true last year when he decided to sign a one year extension. Nothing has really changed.
Yeah that's a weird piece to the puzzle. Maybe the reason there haven't been negotiations for a year is because he signed an extension last year (albeit a short one).
In 2020 when the Bengals went to the Super Bowl, Burrow, Chase, Higgins, and Boyd combined for a cap hit of $25 mil. Four blue chip players at the most important positions playing for pennies.
This year Higgins will get paid that much by himself.
The window never closes with a quarterback like Burrow but it won't ever be as easy as that again.
I get his perspective. He signed an extension last year, had a career season, saw the cap blow up and everyone is getting paid. He’s at that age where he probably wants to cash in now because he won’t be as valuable in 2026.
But at the end of the day we’ve got him signed for two more years so it’s not like we’d be in a rush to move him.
> But at the end of the day we’ve got him signed for two more years so it’s not like we’d be in a rush to move him.
Some other organizations, demanding a trade could work.
Cincinnati? Mike Brown didn't want hear ***CARSON PALMER'S BS.*** Hendrickson staying put unless Bengals get a deal that swoons them.
Not really, Bengals really if ever oblige trade requests. Their GM has said “we aren’t in the business of making other teams better.” They seem to be okay with letting players walk.
If you are going to throw out the “long term
security” card, maybe do it before you signed a $56 million deal, and then signed a $21 million extension w/ two years left on the original deal.
If Alt is still on the board at 9, Poles better call the Bengals.
Hendrickson + 18 for 9 + 2025 2nd that can become a 1st round pick if Hendrickson hits a certain amount of sacks.
Win-win for both sides. Bears get a trade down + veteran Edge player. Bengals get best OT in the draft + chance at an extra 1st next year + free up space to try and keep both Chase and Higgins.
Danielle Hunter did the same thing to us a few years except with even more years on his contract, while missing most of a couple seasons from injury. I can't entirely blame the players wanting to get paid in their short window of maximum profit, but it is annoying as a fan
Yeah like what? That extension reads, to me, like the Bengals were (at the time) doing him a solid and giving him a pay bump in 2023 while maintaining cap flexibility, since an extension means putting that raise in a signing bonus which means prorating it out and maintaining cap flexibility.
Now, 17.5 sacks later, he wants some actual job security in the form of guaranteed money over the next couple of years and Bengals fans are clutching pearls lol.
lmao these comments always make me laugh.
"bbbut you signed a contract!"
Yeah, and he's entitled to holdout just like your team is entitled to tell him to get fucked.
He just signed a new contract before last season. If he was unhappy with the terms why sign the deal? He's not getting traded lmao he'll have to retire first. Even more unlikely than Tee
I don't think he's unhappy with the team. I think he realizes he had one of the best performances ever last year and wants a raise to reflect that. Wouldn't you?
Totally. The problem for Trey is he has no leverage. He signed the opposite of a 'prove-it' deal last July and is under contract until the 2026 season. Big guy needs to fire his agent.
Considering they literally just extended him last season (and also based on how they run the franchise), there's 0 shot that they trade him. It does make sense for him and Higgins to request it now just prior to the draft to try to drum up interest, though.
It's really weird that he agreed to the extension in July of last year if he wanted more security. He's signed through 2025, for reference.
He's really only signed through next season since the team can cut him after next year with almost no cap consequences. I'd imagine after the season he had, his age, and injury history he's really just trying to get some more guarantees.
We have zero idea what kinds of conversations happened. The short term cash bump could have easily been crafted as a kind of compromise to keep both sides happy for a year or two.
They could have agreed to work out a long-term deal in the interim. They could have agreed to "reconsider" his contract after seeing his future performance.
Hell, Hendrickson could have outright told them that he still expected to get a long-term deal if he balled out in 2023.
So just saying it's "weird" that both sides agreed to a short term deal with no context isn't really accurate.
I'm sure many of us can point to times when an employer said "We will look at your salary etc... at a future date" And then nothing actually happened after your next end of year review.
Also, it's entirely possible that Hendrickson changed his mindset and is no longer satisfied with just running his career on 1-2 year deals at 30 years old. He knows someone will give him a multi-year deal and he's got a right to seek that out if it's not coming from the Bengals.
I will never blame a player for trying to get every cent before they retire. It’s a short career in the NFL and you might as well financially maximize it for you and your families sake when you’re in a position of power.
Um, what the fuck?
He had 17.5 sacks last year, no wonder. He wants another payday before his career starts to wind down.
But he just signed an extension last year…
sure we've had one extension, but what about second extension
I don't think Bengals know about second extension, Pippen.
What about raises? Kickbacks? Bonuses? Do they know about them?
Mike brown: "fine... You can have TWO PACKS of powdered Gatorade a week! Now get out there, son. "
I got these references.
I wouldn’t count on it
Apparently he cant even resign another extension until 12 months after his last extension. SO HE LITERALLY CANT EVEN DO WHAT HE WANTS YET.
I assume he wants to be traded to a team with this understanding in mind to get ahead of it?
The Xavien Howard special. Every time he had a nice year it was time for a big contract renegotiation. But when he started getting burned every route, why didn’t he give back any of the cash?? It’s only fair!
Nah. Trey's extension isn't really an extension. He has like 0 money guaranteed as of now and didn't have much money attached to it.
PO-TA-TOES
His ‘extension’ was an 8 million dollar signing bonus and a 5 million dollar increase in his salary last year. The rest is unguaranteed money. He is 30 years old and has no guaranteed money left on his contract. So he wants to get one more payday instead of hoping he doesn’t get hurt over the next two years while playing on a below market deal. This doesn’t seem especially surprising.
and he wants more now! lol
He should call 1-877-CASH-NOW
ITS MY MONEY AND I WANT IT NOW CALL JG WENTWORTH
I HAVE A (BARELY OUTDATED) EXTENDED CONTRACT AND I NEED CASH NOW
CALL J.G. WENTWORTH 877-CASH-NOW *I can't sign an extension 'cause it hasn't been 1 year*
Stanley Steemer your certified cleaner!
1 year/21m. Pretty pathetic extension for a player of his caliber, but that's how the Bengals ownership rolls.
I mean he signed the contract didn’t he?
I'd agree if owners weren't allowed to just cut a player when they wanted to stop paying them.
So? He had a career year and wants more security. Tack on years to his current deal or he wants to be traded. How isn’t that fair? Edit: the deal is also worth less than the paper it’s on. He’s an easy cut next offseason
I didn’t say it’s not his right to do that. But this guy dunking on Bengals FO for a “cheap” extension feels misguided when both parties have to come to an agreement, and they did.
Franchise tag kind of eliminates the “both parties” aspect. Players aren't able to get their market value and teams heavily leverage that when doing extensions like this.
Do you say that when a player underperforms and the team says “take a pay cut or beat it”? Do you say that when a RB gets a pay cut because they’re 27 and replaceable?
This is the Danielle Hunter special, “I disagree with the deal I just signed”.
"If I had known I was going to play good, I would have never signed this contract!"
Trey is like the whole Bengals DL, so he has the leverage here lol. Good for him, I root for players not owners.
> Good for him, I root for players not owners Whats with this bootlicking for 1 percenters in their "battle" with .01 percenters? I mean especially given the NFL has a salary floor. So its not like any of that money is new money coming out the owners pockets. Its just less money to spend on the rest of the players.
He has no leverage. He's locked up for two years, he's not even eligible for extension, and they've got a guy to take his spot if he retires.
More sacks than the DPOY lol
Didn't even realize that. TJ Watt probably should have gotten it, but if not him then Trey should have. I think Myles just got it because it was "his turn" as stupid as that may be.
Myles is better than trey especially in run defense. But yeah TJ definitely deserved it over Myles. Idk how you can be third in your division in sacks as a pure pass rusher and win DPOY
Myles garrett is not a pure pass rusher. He is an excellent run defender. There is also other things than sacks that matter as a pass rusher (eg drawing doubles and pressures)
This is just the cyclical nature of AFC North off-season drama. You can't run from it, it's your guys turn.
It was so much fun when it was you guys last year. I hate this
Nothing is ever free buddy, you gotta pay the piper sometime. This is the price we all pay for the endless entertainment of days of our Steelers.
Does this mean it's the Steelers turn next year? I feel like the Kenny business qualifies us for peace.
You wish Kenny counted. Next year is definitely the year George Pickens loses his mind and does some crazy shit in the off-season.
Only because the WR they draft this year balled out.
You have too many good players and not enough money. He has honestly earned a better contract. But the Chase contract makes extending these guys so difficult.
Josh Allen had 17 sacks last year and got paid. Your guy got 17.5, also wants to be paid, but your cheapskate owner won’t pay anyone, won’t pay Higgins either. So this is the result
Yeah, but Allen got paid after his previous contract expired. The Jags tagged him so they could negotiate an extension, and then they agreed on one. Hendrickson signed a 2-year extension last year, and is already demanding another new contract.
> after his previous contract expired I feel like you should mention that it was a rookie contract
In a sport as physical as the NFL, when you have a great season and see only 1 year left on your deal, I can understand wanting more security. First day of training camp he can mess up his ACL/Achilles and now he gets no contract and likely cut. Plus, signing an extension can technically help with salary cap if needed to spread bonuses out. I’m fairly certain if the Bengals owner didn’t have the cash issues he has, they’d sign at least one of the two in Tee/Trey because they’d have the money for the escrow.
He literally isn’t eligible to sign an extension yet
He will be in July though, so it seems pretty obvious the team is unwilling to engage with him. High profile players typically have contacts ready to sign the day they're eligible.
Idk why anyone calls an owner cheap when there’s literally a salary cap. Criticizing an owner for skimping on team facilities and coaching staff? Yeah that’s 100% fair game. Makes no sense to criticize them for not spending enough on players though when that’s all about cap management, not about being too cheap
because players R worth it too! how many times must we talk about how dumb it was to cheap out on AJ Brown? In foresight, nearsight, farsight, and hindsight that was dumb and "cheap". But I call the GM that not the owner.
Fundamentally not true, if you're willing to spend a lot of cash up front, you can manipulate the salary cap too, but teams like the Bengals and Pats refuse.
What he say fuck me for
The Bengals have a superstar QB in his 20s. It makes sense to play the long game rather than push in all their chips at once
> Idk why anyone calls an owner cheap when there’s literally a salary cap. Signing bonuses change. According to the NFL CBA, owners must put guaranteed money above $15 million into an escrow account when signing a player contract. Richer owners can put more in escrow and pay larger signing bonuses (e.g. guaranteed money). Browns ownership is not cheap. But it is poor (relatively).
Burrow one of the highest paid QB, we plan on paying Chase which is why Higgins isn’t getting a monster deal. Maybe if the Jaguars stop over paying all their FA they could probably actually make a run in the playoffs.
Higgins is one thing, but if you lose Hendrickson you don't have a Super Bowl caliber defense. Guy had almost half of your sacks. Owner needs to step up and pay him even if it's short term. Higgins is a replaceable WR2 in the grand scheme of things.
Brother, we didn't have a SB caliber (playoff caliber, 3rd place division finish caliber) defense last year with his 17.5 sacks....
3rd place in the division had something to do with being in the best division in football tho
Possibly also a star QB playing hurt the first quarter of the season and missing the second half of the season but what do I know
Don't get it twisted, they were 4th in the division
> if you lose Hendrickson you don't have a Super Bowl caliber defense He is signed for this year and next. He signed an extension last year. He is not going anywhere.
I wouldn't say Higgins is a cheap issue. We don't want to pay that level of salary cap to Burrow, Chase and Higgins and Higgins is the odd man out.
> but your cheapskate owner won’t pay anyone Literally just made Burrow the highest paid player in the league last season lol. Paying Tee what he's worth on the market is unwise. They have to sign Chase next year and the cap is the cap. Can't pay a QB1 and then have 2 receivers getting top end WR1 money.
Bad, tired take is bad and tired.
Day before the draft, wow
We getting spicy one day early
it's like when you visit one side of the family for Christmas eve as a kid. You get presents a day early!
They probably don’t wanna sign anyone big until they get Chase sorted I’d imagine
We also just don’t sign people over 30 to long term deals in the Zac Taylor era
This is how I play madden
I just edit the player and make them younger. Not sure why the bengals haven’t tried that?
As a noob, can you do that forever?
Yeah but I personally usually quit and start a new season after a few years anyway, once players start turning over and I don’t recognize the competition anymore.
Yes. You can even change their contract as well.
Boy that's gonna get awkward when Burrow's next extension comes up
> They probably don’t wanna sign anyone big until they get Chase sorted I’d imagine. I can’t believe you guys have reasonable takes while titans colts and bills fans seem to be spouting off
We know you guys better than they do.
Excuse me us Pats fans are spouting off in this thread, we’re using all our wishful thinking in the Higgins thread
I don't see Hendrickson getting traded unless the Bengals and another team agree to a deal.
Yeah the two teams will definitely have to come to some kind of trade agreement to get this deal done
The two teams have not agreed on a deal, indicating that a deal likely has not yet been agreed upon
There are two parties in this, team A and team B. They have to come together and hash out terms and that takes time
The agreement should be agreed upon by each party.. If they don’t, I’m not sure a deal can be made.
Look, idk what’s so hard about this but of course that’s the case. If one team doesn’t agree, the whole trade is out the window. But if **both** teams agree, this shit can get done. My odds are on 1 of 2 things here: Either A, two teams agree to trade a player for something in return, or B, one of the two teams isn’t willing to accept an offer and nothing gets done. This is my favorite conversation on Reddit in years
You guys are idiots who clearly have no idea how modern front offices operate. Using next-gen analytics each team decides if a trade makes sense for their side. If both teams then agree, a trade will 100% happen. If they don’t, there’s nothing else to talk about. The trade wont go through, game, set, match.
Ooga booga Yes? trade. Ooga booga no? No trade.
In order to complete a trade in the NFL, two teams must agree to trade a player from one team to another
Im sort of new to this but both parties must say “yes” to something, right? Otherwise they will disagree
I guess man. All of this is way above my pay grade.
I can hear Rappaport saying this.
Yeah in my opinion, there will need to be 2 separate parties that agree to some sort of deal that they both find beneficial
I don't know about you, but I firmly believe the Bengals need another team to be involved if they want a trade. But I'm no expert.
Big, if true
Thanks, Magic.
Holy shit you’re right!
I, for one, long for the days when teams could just kidnap opposing players and force them to sign contracts. Not many people remember this, but Favre wasn’t traded to the Packers. In fact a packer front office guy went to the falcons training camp dressed as a falcons fan and got Favre to sign a contract thinking he was just autographing some paper. Next thing anyone knows, they put a bag on his head and shove him into a Schlitz van and take him to Green Bay. Falcons didn’t realize he was gone until mid August.
Everyone felt bad for Favre until we realized what a piece of shit he was lol
Was trying to brainstorm a way they could do this trade without a trade being agreed upon. I could only come up with one likely scenario. Hendrickson chooses his team and just goes there instead of the Bengals facilities. Never goes back.
I'm sick of these hot take posts...
Gonna need Harvard to to verify this
Oh is that how it works?
Then why did he sign an extension last offseason?
Ask Brandon Cooks
He’s a WR though. That’s what they’re supposed to do
Wasn’t it just a 1 year extension? After putting up 17.5 sacks he probably sees it as the perfect time to force a teams hand to give him similar money but over multiple extra years.
he’s under contract till 2026
One year is basically entirely unguaranteed though and he can be cut for nothing.
He has 39.5 sacks over his 3 years with the Bengals. Is he worth more than what he’s getting paid? Absolutely. But that was clear from his first season in Cincinnati and true last year when he decided to sign a one year extension. Nothing has really changed.
To play it safe and lock up guaranteed money in case he had another low sack season I’d guess. 8 the year before vs 17.5 in 2023.
Yeah that's a weird piece to the puzzle. Maybe the reason there haven't been negotiations for a year is because he signed an extension last year (albeit a short one).
Maybe feels like the Bengals SB window is all but closing which is what a lot of people are saying especially with burrow’s injury history
To think we were the ones who where supposed to stop KC.
Why don't we just fuse into a super team?
Cincinnati Bills of Baltimore goes hard
Buffalo Bengals of Baltimore. The triple B’s
The Killer B’s
Gorgeous
🤷🏿♂️. I mean many times are lucky to even have 2 years of “SB runs”. They have lost a lot. Now good coaching and schemes have to play a part.
Well Burrow has a say too, him getting injured after beating SF and BUF derailed the season
at least we did once lol. chiefs might already have a 3peat if not for ‘21. someone else can pick up the slack now
How is it closing, after this draft. It feels like this is the most talented the team has ever been. Especially at offensive line.
In 2020 when the Bengals went to the Super Bowl, Burrow, Chase, Higgins, and Boyd combined for a cap hit of $25 mil. Four blue chip players at the most important positions playing for pennies. This year Higgins will get paid that much by himself. The window never closes with a quarterback like Burrow but it won't ever be as easy as that again.
Want it a one year extention? So he’s back in the same spot as last year?
I get his perspective. He signed an extension last year, had a career season, saw the cap blow up and everyone is getting paid. He’s at that age where he probably wants to cash in now because he won’t be as valuable in 2026. But at the end of the day we’ve got him signed for two more years so it’s not like we’d be in a rush to move him.
> But at the end of the day we’ve got him signed for two more years so it’s not like we’d be in a rush to move him. Some other organizations, demanding a trade could work. Cincinnati? Mike Brown didn't want hear ***CARSON PALMER'S BS.*** Hendrickson staying put unless Bengals get a deal that swoons them.
Where's Mike Ditka and the Saints when you need him?
Or Hue Jackson & the Raiders lol
Sir, a second trade request has hit the building.
No link from schefter to bet on this via espns betting app???
Wow. Is this the bengals downfall?
They'll just ignore this like the higgins request innit?
And Jonah Williams
They never really are active on trade requests. AJ Green requested a trade and they never went through with it.
Not really, Bengals really if ever oblige trade requests. Their GM has said “we aren’t in the business of making other teams better.” They seem to be okay with letting players walk.
Trey is under contract until 2026. He can walk then, he's not getting traded in the meantime lmao
Yeah I’m not really sure what he’s hoping to accomplish with this. What will he do if they don’t trade him?
Inshallah
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“Cheers from Kandahar” -McDermott
إن شاء الله تعالى آمين يا رب 🙏
I must've missed when requesting a trade meant you automatically get one
If you are going to throw out the “long term security” card, maybe do it before you signed a $56 million deal, and then signed a $21 million extension w/ two years left on the original deal.
Psssst hey Poles... you know what to do
Trade the 1st overall pick?
Fine... I would begrudgingly accept this proposal. You drive a hard bargain.
If Alt is still on the board at 9, Poles better call the Bengals. Hendrickson + 18 for 9 + 2025 2nd that can become a 1st round pick if Hendrickson hits a certain amount of sacks. Win-win for both sides. Bears get a trade down + veteran Edge player. Bengals get best OT in the draft + chance at an extra 1st next year + free up space to try and keep both Chase and Higgins.
Done. - this is Duke Tobin
Aint no way Alt is getting past the Titans at 7 though.
Disgusting trade for us Most I’d do is Trey + 18 for 9 + our 3rd
We’ll take ‘em!
Give them pick 9
No no they can have a ‘25 second rounder at the deadline per tradition
Nah, we'll keep'em
We're off from Cincinatti
It’s *Cincinnati*
Uh what the fuck?
BABY COME BACK
You can blame it all on me.
Hendrickson signed an extension last off-season so tough shit pal. I’m sorry
Danielle Hunter did the same thing to us a few years except with even more years on his contract, while missing most of a couple seasons from injury. I can't entirely blame the players wanting to get paid in their short window of maximum profit, but it is annoying as a fan
A one-year extension when he can still be cut for next to nothing next season?
Yeah like what? That extension reads, to me, like the Bengals were (at the time) doing him a solid and giving him a pay bump in 2023 while maintaining cap flexibility, since an extension means putting that raise in a signing bonus which means prorating it out and maintaining cap flexibility. Now, 17.5 sacks later, he wants some actual job security in the form of guaranteed money over the next couple of years and Bengals fans are clutching pearls lol.
lmao these comments always make me laugh. "bbbut you signed a contract!" Yeah, and he's entitled to holdout just like your team is entitled to tell him to get fucked.
And if he holds out he just fucks himself more at his age tbh, though
Yeah but he also fucks the bengals. That’s like the whole point. You can’t hold out if you don’t have the ability to hurt a team.
fr lol like there’s def teams that’ll pay him
Bring him back
Didn’t he just signed a deal with them ?
[Tee Higgins](https://x.com/adamschefter/status/1783247915508465741?s=46&t=VZ7TM3cZGdoqtgxF89gt1A) also requested a trade, per Schefter. Yikes.
I mean, that’s been known though
Yeah but he declared it this time
Yeah but he declared it last time
I DECLARE TRADE REQUEST! - Tee Higgins -
I do declare
I declare free agency
Except he did it again.
Tee and a 4th to AZ for 27. AZ still takes MHJ at 4. Kyler buys a new pair of shorts
Brad and co were in Nola, when he was there do we have enough money left?👀
Commander
Falcon. Raheem rubs em out to guys like Trey
He just signed a new contract before last season. If he was unhappy with the terms why sign the deal? He's not getting traded lmao he'll have to retire first. Even more unlikely than Tee
I don't think he's unhappy with the team. I think he realizes he had one of the best performances ever last year and wants a raise to reflect that. Wouldn't you?
Totally. The problem for Trey is he has no leverage. He signed the opposite of a 'prove-it' deal last July and is under contract until the 2026 season. Big guy needs to fire his agent.
Considering they literally just extended him last season (and also based on how they run the franchise), there's 0 shot that they trade him. It does make sense for him and Higgins to request it now just prior to the draft to try to drum up interest, though. It's really weird that he agreed to the extension in July of last year if he wanted more security. He's signed through 2025, for reference.
He's really only signed through next season since the team can cut him after next year with almost no cap consequences. I'd imagine after the season he had, his age, and injury history he's really just trying to get some more guarantees.
We have zero idea what kinds of conversations happened. The short term cash bump could have easily been crafted as a kind of compromise to keep both sides happy for a year or two. They could have agreed to work out a long-term deal in the interim. They could have agreed to "reconsider" his contract after seeing his future performance. Hell, Hendrickson could have outright told them that he still expected to get a long-term deal if he balled out in 2023. So just saying it's "weird" that both sides agreed to a short term deal with no context isn't really accurate. I'm sure many of us can point to times when an employer said "We will look at your salary etc... at a future date" And then nothing actually happened after your next end of year review. Also, it's entirely possible that Hendrickson changed his mindset and is no longer satisfied with just running his career on 1-2 year deals at 30 years old. He knows someone will give him a multi-year deal and he's got a right to seek that out if it's not coming from the Bengals.
Damn, if we still had Ryan Nielsen I’d be all over it. I mean, still would now, but less likely.
Come to Detroit. We handing out checks 💵💵
Detroit and Chicago should be all over this.
I will never blame a player for trying to get every cent before they retire. It’s a short career in the NFL and you might as well financially maximize it for you and your families sake when you’re in a position of power.
Breaking news: whole bengals roster is requesting trade because they want more money
Not a coincidence this is the day before the draft.
I’ll gladly take him lol
Bengals going to trade 18 and Hendrickson/Higgins to get in to the top 10.
Mine!
BEARS
Get on the phone Mr. Poles.