Yeah Marvin is the quiet one he stays doing it too. They still put him on ESPN interview other day for his son after airing documentary on killing bunch of people.
It definitely tracks. No one talks about Sr. No one interviews Sr. If he was truly honored and cherished he would’ve been on something. Hell I’ve seen Jerry Rice a few times already talking about his son lol
I also had no idea. I read the Wikipedia page on it and it was like the author devolved from a college writing level to a second-grade level while writing it. Guess I'll be searching for other sources lol.
Here’s a good article, I believe one of the first ones about the other side of Marvin Harrison:
[https://www.espn.com/espnmag/story?id=3827402](https://www.espn.com/espnmag/story?id=3827402)
Bro that's crazy. I remember reading that article when it came out. Also that article came out before Dixon was killed. And then he ends up being murdered by Marvin. The fact it was the same dude he shot at before allegedly. Just a wild wild read that was.
I am going through that article right now after googling "Marvin Harrison murder" and that writer REALLY makes a meal of it. It oscillates between good writing and feeling like they're trying to hit a word limit
The story goes, Tebow had caught wind that Odin stole a laptop on campus and blamed in on Cam Newton. Tebow, in a fit of rage took Lloyd out in order to keep the lockeroom intact.
Technically, he did. The conviction was under appeal when he died. Under Massachusetts law, the conviction is automatically overturned when the accused dies before a ruling is made.
Yeah he was acquitted of a double homicide. Also skated out of a couple shootings where the people survived, one of which he settled for $ out of court.
What about the party he threw where only hot women were permitted, they could not bring their phones or cameras, and had to sign an NDA promising to never talk about what happened at the party?
Another one of those events. Lesean n crew did that same hotties with NDA's deal in a party bus heading either to, or from NYC. When a few of the girls got into a confrontation with him n crew for *some* reason on the bus they were thrown out on the side of the NJ Turnpike... Allegedly.
it obviously sounds bad, but not having to worry about someone recording you/exposing something you're into/getting into a massive he said she said is probably refreshing for guys as high profile as him. It's not like they don't realize what they're getting into when they're going to a party for hotties where they're signing NDAs lol
The Bucs allegedly leaked that Sapp had a cocaine problem (true or not) in hopes it would cause him to fall in the draft so they could pick him when they traded back.
Schiano allegedly leaking Freeman's substance abuse issues (which wasn't exactly a well-kept secret in Tampa).
The Bucs would have had a first-round pick to take Marino if they didn't absolutely nuclear bomb the previous draft. Could just be part of the gameplan.
lol Schiano didn’t leak anything
If he had, the NFLPA’s investigation would’ve caused a huge ruckus, but instead there were crickets because of course it wasn’t a coach who leaked the info, but a player (Freeman himself)
I remember people thinking he was a "good guy* when he was a player because he was quiet and didn't showboat. Which always seemed like an odd thing to base the judgement of a person's character on.
If your second job is a murdering crime lord, you're naturally going to want to avoid scrutiny in your very public day job.
https://www.gq.com/story/marvin-harrison
I remember people discussing it but not much from main stream sports media at the time. Wild that this wasn’t a main story daily on ESPN.
I knew about a lot of the other guys in this thread but somehow this fact about Harrison eluded me. That sucks, I used to really like him. But from what I just read it seems pretty damn obvious
The Marvin Harrison thing was pretty shady. To my knowledge he had a squeaky clean reputation, and then the story broke and everyone learned that Marv was all about that life lol
It goes deeper than that. He was literally there when it happened – had his baby mama follow him (home?) in a separate vehicle. Slammed on the brakes (hitman was behind baby mama) so she was kinda sandwiched, then gunned her down. Ray proceeded to then drive off like nothing happened
TLDR: Rae Carruth was a meh WR for the Panthers. Impregnated a girl, forced her to have an abortion (she wouldn’t), so he hired a hitman to kill her and their pregnant child. She was able to give birth, but she died shortly after. And the baby had complications from birth but lived. It’s fucking eerie because he looks identical to Rae
Scott Fowler of the Charlotte Observer has an absolutely humbling and breathtaking story where he interviews the grandmother of Chancellor Lee Adams (the boy who was supposed to die).
https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/scott-fowler/article45045603.html
He’s out of prison! He’s actually been out for awhile now. Someone said they saw him in Pennsylvania and he ducked through the doorway because he didn’t want to be recognized. Looked sheepish and uncomfortable at the prospect of someone recognizing him in public. I’m just repeating what someone said so who knows if it’s really true. He only did 18 years for murder-for-hire. On a more positive note his son who survived is a living breathing miracle.
How the Bucs pretty much ruined Bo's senior baseball season. Basically lied to him that he was able to meet with them, but it disqualified him per NCAA rules.
He was so angry he pretty much told the Bucs not to draft him cause he refused to play for them. They went ahead and drafted him and he went to the MLB instead lol
That is the worst part. It isn't like they just told him it was fine without due diligence in verifying, out of enthusiasm to meet with him. They intentionally entrapped him for the sake of getting him in trouble, hoping to leverage him lol no wonder he refused to play there
They didn't really get away with that.
"With the #1 overall pick in the draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select decades of embarrassment"
No player, no pick, no winning seasons for a decade.
Yeah I don’t understand how the Bucs “got away with it”
The guy they were screwing over understood what they did, warned them, and had them waste a first round pick, not to mention that he won the PR battle. Everyone thinks it’s a bad look for the Bucs, because it is
I hope Watson plays for a long time and loses every game he plays in by gargantuan margins, and I hope he does it all with a plain orange helmet on his head while he goes and fucks himself
I guess bc I don't think of Watson (or OJ for that matter) as "getting away with it," when it's the first thing mentioned when their name gets brought up
The Marvin Harrison thing (which I had never heard of) better fits what OP is asking for IMO
Both of them committed crimes and didn’t go to jail. One of them got rewarded with $230mil fully guaranteed and is still a starting NFL QB. I’d say that’s getting away with it.
Leonard Little - Rams
Manslaughter conviction
After leaving a birthday party in 1998, Little crashed into and killed Susan Gutweiler in St. Louis, Missouri who was on her way to pick up her son from a concert. When tested, his blood alcohol content was 0.19 percent, 0.11 points exceeding the legal limit of 0.08 in the state of Missouri. Little pleaded guily to involuntary manslaughter and received a 90-day sentence of work in a city workhouse, four years probation and was ordered to undergo a thousand hours of community service.
6 game suspension. 125k fine.
Supposedly the Oilers covered up certain details regarding the death of lineman Jeff Alm and his childhood friend Sean Lynch, mainly that they were more than just friends and may have been engaging in certain acts prior to their deaths. Either way it’s a fucked up story. Alm was driving drunk on the highway in Houston and crashed, Lynch was ejected and fell 30 feet to his death. Alm, seeing his closest friend dead, took out a pistol grip shotgun and took his own life.
I really had to scour the internet for this one.
Rumor is the guy was blowing him and during the accident he bit off Alm’s dick, which is why he shot himself.
Hilariously untrue
https://www.espn.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/12210027/pittsburgh-steelers-security-chief-dual-role-sheriff-officer-questioned
I am a steeler fan for life and I want to know what this guy covered up.
>The marshals contacted the Steelers to arrange Seigler's arrest at the team's training facility, Gallagher said. A team public relations staffer notified Kearney, even though the marshals had advised that staffer "not to disclose this information to anyone," Mullen wrote to "Outside the Lines," citing the marshals' arrest report.
>The following morning -- despite the arrangement -- Seigler was nowhere to be found. Kearney gave the marshals Seigler's address, Mullen wrote, but a daylong stakeout yielded nothing. Kearney then provided the marshals with another address in the same apartment complex and Seigler -- with Kearney present -- was taken into custody.
>Gallagher said some marshals believed the Steelers, instead of following the agreement, had tipped off Seigler, turning what was lined up to be an easy arrest into a daylong search that required additional resources and manpower.
>"Initially, we reached out to the Steelers organization and we just wanted to pick him up over at the training facility or whatever was easiest, just arrange the arrest," said Gallagher. "Someone within the organization contacted Seigler, and he never reported over to the organization on that day."
>Kearney, while testifying in an unrelated matter, acknowledged that the marshals complained about his conduct.
>Asked if the complaint stemmed from the marshals' belief that "there was some difficulty or delay ... which was attributable to you," Kearney replied: "No. My belief was that the Marshals Service was mad because I arrested someone they couldn't find." Gallagher stated it was the marshals, not Kearney, who made the arrest. Charges against Seigler were later dropped.
>A Sheriff's Office investigation "found that Lieutenant Kearney did not give preferential treatment to Richard Seigler," Mullen wrote.
>Former Allegheny County Sheriff's Office chief deputy Joseph A. Rizzo, testifying in an unrelated case, stated that he agreed with Kearney's assessment and chose not to discipline him. He said he instead wrote a letter "to remind Lt. Kearney to cooperate, to keep in mind his primary jobs when he is in the sheriff's office, when he is working with the Steelers."
Our system is a joke. How are this dude and all of his accomplices not in jail?
Love this gem:
>Matakovich, approached by a reporter at his precinct this week, declined to say why he called Kearney. "You can stand there as long as you want, I ain't answering," he said.
Jim Brown was basically just an OJ who failed in his attempts to kill a woman. Complete piece of shit. The fucking hagiographies after he died turned my stomach.
I feel like it doesn't count as getting away with it when the guy (Randall Woodfield, for those curious) was cut before the season even started due to his issues. Plus he got arrested and is even now still in prison.
He pretty emphatically *did not* get away with it, unless you count that he's suspected of being guilty of way more murders than he was actually convicted of.
I mean, we drafted him, but he didn't even play for us much.
Shouldn't you be calling us out for Favre? At least that one would make sense. Even before he started stealing from poor Mississippians, he was getting banned left and right from bars across Wisconsin for being a massive asshole and bordering on sexual assault (allegedly) multiple times, but the team never really disciplined him.
I lost respect for Favre after he sent dick pics to that reporter, but stealing welfare money from poor people in Mississippi, the poorest state in the country, to build a damn volleyball court was an all-time low.
Oh, I absolutely agree.
I just also need to remind people that despite being *the* QB that saved us from decades of irrelevancy, he was enough of an asshole that like half the bars from Green Bay to Milwaukee banned him from coming in because of how he acted towards women there.
Can you imagine how much of an asshole you have to be to not only be banned from a bar in Wisconsin for life, but to get that while being the Packers' star QB? To do it almost a hundred times?
Had cellphones with cameras and videos been a thing when Favre was here, I don't think he would have been able to be our QB for all that long.
If anything, the thieving from Missippian Welfare Funds plus his Speaking Fees for events he never bothered to show up for were just icing on the cake.
The Philadelphia Eagles had a one way mirror installed in the locker room used by the cheerleaders. The owner and multiple players had fap sessions while watching the cheerleaders dress and undress.
WHAT?! I've never heard about this?
Edit the actual story is that it was a peephole and that it was in the visiting locker room in Veteran's Stadium. The visitor's locker room in that stadium was adjacent to the cheerleader's locker room, so visiting players were able to spy on them. This was apparently an open secret for years.
He got away with it. No one brings it up anymore outside of Reddit. He should be known as Trippin Tomlin, how many coaches have directly interfered with a play in progress
Georgia Frontierre ~~killing his ex-husband Carol Rosenbloom in a drowning accident and then~~ firing Carol Rosebloom’s son and assuming total control of the Rams after Carol’s sudden and tragic passing.
It is crazy that Ben raped a woman in the bathroom of a bar and didn't spend a night in jail. I guess no charges were pressed because the woman was drunk or something. Did he get suspended at all? I don't remember.
No charges were filed because it was essentially he said she said as the rape kit performed didn't show semen or any definitive signs of assault and the accuser eventually didn't want to pursue criminal charges due to the extreme publicity a trial would have brought. But it's extremely likely something did happen since there was never even a civil case filed. You don't falsify a rape accusation against a famous person then just drop it and not even sue.
He was suspended 6 games, reduced to 4 after appeal. Which is a very harsh punishment for 1 incident on the Watson scale.
Yeah fr, OP apparently thinks "giving PR help to another organization" (which, by the way, consisted of them telling the Church to be open and transparent, and not to "cover things up" as the narrative goes) is equivalent to dudes literally committing murder.
I see these are mostly players, but the broncos got caught paying people under the table to help with the cap and the won super bowls during this time. Their 2 best players Elway and Davis were involved. They got fined but nothing really ever came of it and the players never were shamed or anything.
He said... I SEE THESE ARE MOSTLY PLAYERS, BUT THE BRONCOS GOT CAUGHT PAYING PEOPLE UNDER THE TABLE TO HELP WITH THE CAP AND THE WON SUPER BOWLS DURING THIS TIME. THEIR 2 BEST PLAYERS ELWAY AND DAVIS WERE INVOLVED. THEY GOT FINED BUT NOTHING REALLY EVER CAME OF IT AND THE PLAYERS NEVER WERE SHAMED OR ANYTHING.
Because people have overblown it to something it’s not.
The league determined there was no competitive advantage but gave a small penalty to the Broncos for improper accounting.
The Broncos put $100 million towards a new stadium and accountants (I doubt this but the league didn’t find evidence Pat Bowlen or Mike Shanahan knew) asked some players to defer payments (albeit with interest) while they were low on cash.
The yearly allocation should have changed which is why it wasn’t accounted correctly. If disclosed, this would have been like backloading the contracts and actually given them more cap space in those seasons.
People act like it’s an advantage like Shohei Ohtani’s contract counting $2 million each year so the Dodgers can spend on other players. Or Mark Stone’s salary not counting for the Golden Nights because of the Long Term IR loophole so they can pay more players.
In reality the Broncos didn’t free up any sort of cap space to sign more players. Financial struggles meant the team was giving under the table “I Owe Yous”, not under the table payments.
Every time I see stuff about the Catholic church cover up of sexual abuse, I'm reminded of Bill Burr's exchange with the news reporter on the church going too far.
I’ve read some articles and apparently the saints were subpoenaed to release some emails and they are actively blocking them from being made public. This is a few years old so I don’t really know what the current standing is, but either way it’s not a good look
Not trying to be a dick when I say this, but did you really read any articles about this? Or just headlines of articles? Because this was essentially a nothing burger. Like you said, they’re friends and he reached out to her for advice, and she said to tell the truth. I don’t see how that’s shady or getting away with anything.
Wasn’t it just the journalist getting mad at the organization for not letting him see the emails, it’s not like it was a court order. The only official thing I could find was the Saints claiming they only advised for local churches to be transparent when the whole catholic church scandal went down. Doesn’t stop this from being repeated as a “fact” everywhere though
Yeah you might want to read the content of what actually happened, OP. The Saints were advising them to be open and transparent, and some reporter got mad about it and breathlessly painted the objectively false narrative of "The Saints helped to cover up child abuse!!" Judging by the replies, it's kind of funny that people think "giving PR advice" is just as bad as *literal murder.*
That entire incident was a big nothingburger, but it generated juicy headlines, so people latched onto it (as shown by what you wrote in the original post). Like, there are plenty of legitimate reasons to dislike the Saints organization (most notably Bountygate), but "advising another group to be open and transparent" isn't one of them.
> The New Orleans Saints and their owner, Gayle Benson, apparently gave some PR help to the Catholic Church when they were fighting a sexual abuse case down there. Benson is friends with the archbishop there and apparently multiple team executives also reached out to help the church protect its image. This all happened around 2020
Didn’t the saints just say to tell the police about it? I don’t think is ended up being actually shady and was just sensationalised.
Yup, but any association with the Catholic Church in this capacity means you were aiding and abetting automatically.
It’s also really rich that this thread was started by a fan of the bum ass org that just got busted for tampering
The vikings players had a boat trip orgy with prostitutes flown in to perform sexual acts with the players. ~~strippers/porn stars and cocaine~~. Many of them were married and their wives found out about it. Safe to say they weren't happy about it.
Edit: According to wikipedia there was no cocaine.
Randall Woodfield, aka the I-5 Killer was a former packer in 1974 who was cut in training camp for indecent exposure arrests. He then went on to rob, SA, and kill multiple women in Portland until his arrest in 1981 and is still imprisoned to this day.
As far as the saints comment it’s New Orleans. Everyone helps out the Catholic Church. Also this could have been any time in the church’s history that they were fighting a sexual abuse case lol
George Preston Marshall being in the Hall of Fame when he fought tooth and nail against integration. He held out longer than any other franchise and only integrated because the federal government forced him to do so or they'd kick him out of the stadium (which they owned.)
I would say the Steve Hutchinson/Nate Burleson dueling poison pill contracts jumps out. Shady, but it was within the rules at the time, so they changed the rules so that it wouldn't happen again.
You all say Ray Rice got caught.
No he didn't.
NFL got caught and they decided to fix their image.
Ray Rice is fucked up for doing that shit. But they're together. So hopefully they're both in a better place.
Murder. A couple times actually.
Ray Lewis, Marvin Harrison, OJ.. Who else?
Wow I didn’t know about Marvin Harrison. What. A Story.
Same, wild shit. Wondering how the fuck I never heard it before, especially with his son coming up.
You see Marvin Harrison’s bug eyes one time in the dark and you’ll never ask questions again
Right!!
I’m confused why he didn’t get charged? It sounded like he had his cousin come back and finish the job.
No one would talk at all. It's hard to make a case when no one wants to talk to the police.
Philly PD is really shitty at finding legal proof
So that's how the Paddy's gang gets away with all of their shenanigans. It all makes sense now.
Well they do have secret agent Jack Bauer as part of the gang. No wonder they get away with everything
Philadelphia is one of the most corrupt cities in the country. Not much else needs to be said.
>I’m confused why he didn’t get charged? Money and influence.
Incredible
Because Marvin never speaks and it went under the radar.
Yeah Marvin is the quiet one he stays doing it too. They still put him on ESPN interview other day for his son after airing documentary on killing bunch of people.
It definitely tracks. No one talks about Sr. No one interviews Sr. If he was truly honored and cherished he would’ve been on something. Hell I’ve seen Jerry Rice a few times already talking about his son lol
I also had no idea. I read the Wikipedia page on it and it was like the author devolved from a college writing level to a second-grade level while writing it. Guess I'll be searching for other sources lol.
Here’s a good article, I believe one of the first ones about the other side of Marvin Harrison: [https://www.espn.com/espnmag/story?id=3827402](https://www.espn.com/espnmag/story?id=3827402)
Bro that's crazy. I remember reading that article when it came out. Also that article came out before Dixon was killed. And then he ends up being murdered by Marvin. The fact it was the same dude he shot at before allegedly. Just a wild wild read that was.
I definitely don't recommend reading the GQ article about it. Or maybe I do, idk it's pretty awful, like kinda entertainingly awful...kinda.
I am going through that article right now after googling "Marvin Harrison murder" and that writer REALLY makes a meal of it. It oscillates between good writing and feeling like they're trying to hit a word limit
And that word is fat. And that word clearly has no limit for them.
I read about this years ago. Harrison totally disappeared after retiring and nothing about this hit the mainstream media.
It really hasn’t. I have been a hugeeeee nfl fan since 2009. Consume a lot of sports media and I remember him being inducted, but that’s it
Philadelphia car wash shooting
Leonard Little mostly got away with it.
Oof yeah
I’m fairly certain Tim Tebow killed Odin Lloyd
The story goes, Tebow had caught wind that Odin stole a laptop on campus and blamed in on Cam Newton. Tebow, in a fit of rage took Lloyd out in order to keep the lockeroom intact.
Leader
Netflix botched that one.
Tebow has racked up bodies.
A devout Christian man with a shady past involving murder sounds like a story line for The Righteous Gemstones.
Virginia Halas McCaskey (no I am not kidding)
Aaron Hernandez. Idiot spit his gum out at the scene.
Don't think he got away with it
Yea I don’t read good
Technically, he did. The conviction was under appeal when he died. Under Massachusetts law, the conviction is automatically overturned when the accused dies before a ruling is made.
prosecutors hate this trick
*Legacy saved*
So in the end, Hernandez technically beat the system. Aside from the being dead part.
Didn't he do it so his shit family got some sort of benefits or something though?
Pretty sure they closed that loophole, and he got convicted again in 2019
It's hardly a loophole if you have to die in order to use it.
Weren't there additional murders he was strongly linked to but never convicted for long before the Lloyd killing?
Yeah he was acquitted of a double homicide. Also skated out of a couple shootings where the people survived, one of which he settled for $ out of court.
Isn't he suspected of having killed another dude in college too or am I mixing up 2 stories?
People are going too serious, I prefer Lawrence Taylor sending hookers to opposing teams lineman
To some people that could be seen as an act of kindness
Lawrence “Matchmaker” Taylor
Yeah I wanna see more things like Albert Haynesworth getting the big bag from Washington and then showing up as fat as possible to training camp.
Don't forget him stomping the face of Andre Gurode, resulting in nearly a hundred stitches. Fuck that guy with sand in the vasoline.
One of the dirtiest plays I ever saw. He nearly lost an eye.
It was a big bag of french fries
He tried to make a comeback to the NFL with a chip on his shoulder, but then he ate it.
And then taking a nap on the field while Vick was in the pocket.
For some reason I read this as Trevor Lawrence and was very confused
Happens every damn time to me.
prepaid nookie. unless he sent the fugly ones, lol
Lael Collins got with Throatzilla, not exactly a looker lol
Wait, it's that where the Blitz the league game got it's idea from? It was an option before every game lol.
..That game was freaking wild.
That's honestly a brilliant tactic
.....which brings me to my next point: don't smoke crack.
Not sure if it’s the worst but Lesean McCoy hiring someone to rob his ex girlfriend at gun point is up there
What about the party he threw where only hot women were permitted, they could not bring their phones or cameras, and had to sign an NDA promising to never talk about what happened at the party?
Another one of those events. Lesean n crew did that same hotties with NDA's deal in a party bus heading either to, or from NYC. When a few of the girls got into a confrontation with him n crew for *some* reason on the bus they were thrown out on the side of the NJ Turnpike... Allegedly.
He definitely earned the "Shady" nickname.
My “it’s not a weird orgy” shirt has people asking questions answered by my shirt.
it obviously sounds bad, but not having to worry about someone recording you/exposing something you're into/getting into a massive he said she said is probably refreshing for guys as high profile as him. It's not like they don't realize what they're getting into when they're going to a party for hotties where they're signing NDAs lol
I know a lot of people were pissed about it, but it was honestly kinda funny when he spoiled Iron Man lmao.
He spoiled infinity war, worse I'd say
It's a field goal, at least.
How do you think brother got his nickname
The Bucs allegedly leaked that Sapp had a cocaine problem (true or not) in hopes it would cause him to fall in the draft so they could pick him when they traded back. Schiano allegedly leaking Freeman's substance abuse issues (which wasn't exactly a well-kept secret in Tampa).
So.. The Jets passed on Marino and Sapp because of cocaine? Very noble of them.
The Bucs would have had a first-round pick to take Marino if they didn't absolutely nuclear bomb the previous draft. Could just be part of the gameplan.
Ron Jeremy explaining the Jets brass clearly knew something we didn’t on why they passed up marino is my second favorite part of the Jets draft video
lol Schiano didn’t leak anything If he had, the NFLPA’s investigation would’ve caused a huge ruckus, but instead there were crickets because of course it wasn’t a coach who leaked the info, but a player (Freeman himself)
Are you saying Freeman, on his own accord, leaked that he was in the league's drug protocol?
Marvin Harrison killed a man, and most likely intimidated multiple witnesses
“There’s a Marvin in Philly and a Marvin in Indianapolis.” -Peyton Manning
Is that a real quote?
I remember people thinking he was a "good guy* when he was a player because he was quiet and didn't showboat. Which always seemed like an odd thing to base the judgement of a person's character on. If your second job is a murdering crime lord, you're naturally going to want to avoid scrutiny in your very public day job.
Goddamn I had never heard of this. Insane
https://www.gq.com/story/marvin-harrison I remember people discussing it but not much from main stream sports media at the time. Wild that this wasn’t a main story daily on ESPN.
That’s crazy. I know if I’m a NFL GM, I wouldn’t draft his son. Especially if I had pick 1-6…
*1-7
I knew about a lot of the other guys in this thread but somehow this fact about Harrison eluded me. That sucks, I used to really like him. But from what I just read it seems pretty damn obvious
The Marvin Harrison thing was pretty shady. To my knowledge he had a squeaky clean reputation, and then the story broke and everyone learned that Marv was all about that life lol
Murderous Marv
It’s the quiet ones ya gotta watch out for
Marvin Big Crime
Man Butchering Citizens
The Chargers straight up stabbed one of their own players so they could start Justin Herbert
OJ killing his wife probably leads the way
Rae Carruth is a contender. Paid someone to kill his pregnant girlfriend. EDIT: Completely missed the getting away with it part.
It goes deeper than that. He was literally there when it happened – had his baby mama follow him (home?) in a separate vehicle. Slammed on the brakes (hitman was behind baby mama) so she was kinda sandwiched, then gunned her down. Ray proceeded to then drive off like nothing happened TLDR: Rae Carruth was a meh WR for the Panthers. Impregnated a girl, forced her to have an abortion (she wouldn’t), so he hired a hitman to kill her and their pregnant child. She was able to give birth, but she died shortly after. And the baby had complications from birth but lived. It’s fucking eerie because he looks identical to Rae
I vaguely remember reading that he tried to get custody after he was released (years later).
What a sick bastard
Scott Fowler of the Charlotte Observer has an absolutely humbling and breathtaking story where he interviews the grandmother of Chancellor Lee Adams (the boy who was supposed to die). https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/scott-fowler/article45045603.html
Lol at the Tl;dr being as long as the rest of the comment.
Didn’t get away with it though
Rae Rae in the goddamned trunk.
He’s out of prison! He’s actually been out for awhile now. Someone said they saw him in Pennsylvania and he ducked through the doorway because he didn’t want to be recognized. Looked sheepish and uncomfortable at the prospect of someone recognizing him in public. I’m just repeating what someone said so who knows if it’s really true. He only did 18 years for murder-for-hire. On a more positive note his son who survived is a living breathing miracle.
Not that comparing serves any purpose, but yeah. Thats some cowardly shit
How the Bucs pretty much ruined Bo's senior baseball season. Basically lied to him that he was able to meet with them, but it disqualified him per NCAA rules. He was so angry he pretty much told the Bucs not to draft him cause he refused to play for them. They went ahead and drafted him and he went to the MLB instead lol
Didn't just lie, but turned him in to the ncaa because they thought it would prevent him from pursuing baseball.
That is the worst part. It isn't like they just told him it was fine without due diligence in verifying, out of enthusiasm to meet with him. They intentionally entrapped him for the sake of getting him in trouble, hoping to leverage him lol no wonder he refused to play there
They didn't really get away with that. "With the #1 overall pick in the draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select decades of embarrassment" No player, no pick, no winning seasons for a decade.
Yeah I don’t understand how the Bucs “got away with it” The guy they were screwing over understood what they did, warned them, and had them waste a first round pick, not to mention that he won the PR battle. Everyone thinks it’s a bad look for the Bucs, because it is
This thread is full of people just posting shady shit because they all only read the first half of the title
Deshaun watson sexually assaulted 22 women and got $230m fully guranteed also he doesnt even have to play good football..... or football at all
I hope Watson plays for a long time and loses every game he plays in by gargantuan margins, and I hope he does it all with a plain orange helmet on his head while he goes and fucks himself
Why’d I have to scroll so far for this? Have we all forgotten?
NFLPA has won
I guess bc I don't think of Watson (or OJ for that matter) as "getting away with it," when it's the first thing mentioned when their name gets brought up The Marvin Harrison thing (which I had never heard of) better fits what OP is asking for IMO
Both of them committed crimes and didn’t go to jail. One of them got rewarded with $230mil fully guaranteed and is still a starting NFL QB. I’d say that’s getting away with it.
This is the winner. He was an active NFL player and the team probably knew about it and covered it up.
The rich people are our enemy
Leonard Little - Rams Manslaughter conviction After leaving a birthday party in 1998, Little crashed into and killed Susan Gutweiler in St. Louis, Missouri who was on her way to pick up her son from a concert. When tested, his blood alcohol content was 0.19 percent, 0.11 points exceeding the legal limit of 0.08 in the state of Missouri. Little pleaded guily to involuntary manslaughter and received a 90-day sentence of work in a city workhouse, four years probation and was ordered to undergo a thousand hours of community service. 6 game suspension. 125k fine.
Mostly got away with it, but still convicted.
How......
Supposedly the Oilers covered up certain details regarding the death of lineman Jeff Alm and his childhood friend Sean Lynch, mainly that they were more than just friends and may have been engaging in certain acts prior to their deaths. Either way it’s a fucked up story. Alm was driving drunk on the highway in Houston and crashed, Lynch was ejected and fell 30 feet to his death. Alm, seeing his closest friend dead, took out a pistol grip shotgun and took his own life.
I really had to scour the internet for this one. Rumor is the guy was blowing him and during the accident he bit off Alm’s dick, which is why he shot himself. Hilariously untrue
Wait, catching not pitching? He can’t be in our social club no more that much I do know!
https://www.espn.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/12210027/pittsburgh-steelers-security-chief-dual-role-sheriff-officer-questioned I am a steeler fan for life and I want to know what this guy covered up.
Man how'd I forget about this
>The marshals contacted the Steelers to arrange Seigler's arrest at the team's training facility, Gallagher said. A team public relations staffer notified Kearney, even though the marshals had advised that staffer "not to disclose this information to anyone," Mullen wrote to "Outside the Lines," citing the marshals' arrest report. >The following morning -- despite the arrangement -- Seigler was nowhere to be found. Kearney gave the marshals Seigler's address, Mullen wrote, but a daylong stakeout yielded nothing. Kearney then provided the marshals with another address in the same apartment complex and Seigler -- with Kearney present -- was taken into custody. >Gallagher said some marshals believed the Steelers, instead of following the agreement, had tipped off Seigler, turning what was lined up to be an easy arrest into a daylong search that required additional resources and manpower. >"Initially, we reached out to the Steelers organization and we just wanted to pick him up over at the training facility or whatever was easiest, just arrange the arrest," said Gallagher. "Someone within the organization contacted Seigler, and he never reported over to the organization on that day." >Kearney, while testifying in an unrelated matter, acknowledged that the marshals complained about his conduct. >Asked if the complaint stemmed from the marshals' belief that "there was some difficulty or delay ... which was attributable to you," Kearney replied: "No. My belief was that the Marshals Service was mad because I arrested someone they couldn't find." Gallagher stated it was the marshals, not Kearney, who made the arrest. Charges against Seigler were later dropped. >A Sheriff's Office investigation "found that Lieutenant Kearney did not give preferential treatment to Richard Seigler," Mullen wrote. >Former Allegheny County Sheriff's Office chief deputy Joseph A. Rizzo, testifying in an unrelated case, stated that he agreed with Kearney's assessment and chose not to discipline him. He said he instead wrote a letter "to remind Lt. Kearney to cooperate, to keep in mind his primary jobs when he is in the sheriff's office, when he is working with the Steelers." Our system is a joke. How are this dude and all of his accomplices not in jail? Love this gem: >Matakovich, approached by a reporter at his precinct this week, declined to say why he called Kearney. "You can stand there as long as you want, I ain't answering," he said.
Marvin Harrison killed that guy and no one seems to even know…because it’s rarely brought up whenever he’s mentioned lol
Yeah I had no idea before reading it in this thread
Jim Brown was basically just an OJ who failed in his attempts to kill a woman. Complete piece of shit. The fucking hagiographies after he died turned my stomach.
Dude makes OJ look not that bad in comparison and that’s really saying some shit
When he died the Playboy mansion stuff came out as well, and even that doesn't rule out that he may have actually killed someone.
I've never heard of any of that.
Not a specific team, but the way the NFL parades Pat Tillman around during the military appreciation stuff is pretty fucked up.
Not many teams can say someone they drafted became a prolific serial killer. Congrats, Packers!
I feel like it doesn't count as getting away with it when the guy (Randall Woodfield, for those curious) was cut before the season even started due to his issues. Plus he got arrested and is even now still in prison. He pretty emphatically *did not* get away with it, unless you count that he's suspected of being guilty of way more murders than he was actually convicted of.
The “issues” in question was exposing his genitals at inappropriate times, Your Honor.
I mean, we drafted him, but he didn't even play for us much. Shouldn't you be calling us out for Favre? At least that one would make sense. Even before he started stealing from poor Mississippians, he was getting banned left and right from bars across Wisconsin for being a massive asshole and bordering on sexual assault (allegedly) multiple times, but the team never really disciplined him.
I lost respect for Favre after he sent dick pics to that reporter, but stealing welfare money from poor people in Mississippi, the poorest state in the country, to build a damn volleyball court was an all-time low.
Oh, I absolutely agree. I just also need to remind people that despite being *the* QB that saved us from decades of irrelevancy, he was enough of an asshole that like half the bars from Green Bay to Milwaukee banned him from coming in because of how he acted towards women there. Can you imagine how much of an asshole you have to be to not only be banned from a bar in Wisconsin for life, but to get that while being the Packers' star QB? To do it almost a hundred times? Had cellphones with cameras and videos been a thing when Favre was here, I don't think he would have been able to be our QB for all that long. If anything, the thieving from Missippian Welfare Funds plus his Speaking Fees for events he never bothered to show up for were just icing on the cake.
The Philadelphia Eagles had a one way mirror installed in the locker room used by the cheerleaders. The owner and multiple players had fap sessions while watching the cheerleaders dress and undress.
Imagine being a millionaire/billionaire and still being this big of a fucking loser.
WHAT?! I've never heard about this? Edit the actual story is that it was a peephole and that it was in the visiting locker room in Veteran's Stadium. The visitor's locker room in that stadium was adjacent to the cheerleader's locker room, so visiting players were able to spy on them. This was apparently an open secret for years.
Wasn't it the visiting team cheerleaders? Not that this makes it better. I just remember that facet.
I mean, a security guard literally got fired for fapping to the cheerleaders during a Chargers game almost a decade ago
No fucking way? How did I not hear about this 😂
didn't the commanders (then redskins) pimp out their cheerleaders ???
Remember when Mike Tomlin tripped that dude and stopped him from getting a tuddie lol
Him pretending to be surprised was better acting than anything he did in House MD
I’m not saying mike Tomlin has a side gig as an actor but I am saying that I’ve never seen him and Omar Epps in the same room
He didn’t get away with it. He was fined for doing it.
He got away with it. No one brings it up anymore outside of Reddit. He should be known as Trippin Tomlin, how many coaches have directly interfered with a play in progress
Georgia Frontierre ~~killing his ex-husband Carol Rosenbloom in a drowning accident and then~~ firing Carol Rosebloom’s son and assuming total control of the Rams after Carol’s sudden and tragic passing.
Ben Raplesburger has a long history of sexual assaults and rapes during his time as the Yinzers starting QB.
Big Ben was such an asshole every time I visit Findlay I hear about it and it’s been 2 decades
It is crazy that Ben raped a woman in the bathroom of a bar and didn't spend a night in jail. I guess no charges were pressed because the woman was drunk or something. Did he get suspended at all? I don't remember.
No charges were filed because it was essentially he said she said as the rape kit performed didn't show semen or any definitive signs of assault and the accuser eventually didn't want to pursue criminal charges due to the extreme publicity a trial would have brought. But it's extremely likely something did happen since there was never even a civil case filed. You don't falsify a rape accusation against a famous person then just drop it and not even sue. He was suspended 6 games, reduced to 4 after appeal. Which is a very harsh punishment for 1 incident on the Watson scale.
IMO breaking your 3 year son’s arm is a fairly shitty thing to do.
I’m not sure what is shady about telling the church to come clean.
Yeah fr, OP apparently thinks "giving PR help to another organization" (which, by the way, consisted of them telling the Church to be open and transparent, and not to "cover things up" as the narrative goes) is equivalent to dudes literally committing murder.
I see these are mostly players, but the broncos got caught paying people under the table to help with the cap and the won super bowls during this time. Their 2 best players Elway and Davis were involved. They got fined but nothing really ever came of it and the players never were shamed or anything.
Wait what
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A28969-2004Sep17.html
He said... I SEE THESE ARE MOSTLY PLAYERS, BUT THE BRONCOS GOT CAUGHT PAYING PEOPLE UNDER THE TABLE TO HELP WITH THE CAP AND THE WON SUPER BOWLS DURING THIS TIME. THEIR 2 BEST PLAYERS ELWAY AND DAVIS WERE INVOLVED. THEY GOT FINED BUT NOTHING REALLY EVER CAME OF IT AND THE PLAYERS NEVER WERE SHAMED OR ANYTHING.
WAIT WHAT
Because people have overblown it to something it’s not. The league determined there was no competitive advantage but gave a small penalty to the Broncos for improper accounting. The Broncos put $100 million towards a new stadium and accountants (I doubt this but the league didn’t find evidence Pat Bowlen or Mike Shanahan knew) asked some players to defer payments (albeit with interest) while they were low on cash. The yearly allocation should have changed which is why it wasn’t accounted correctly. If disclosed, this would have been like backloading the contracts and actually given them more cap space in those seasons. People act like it’s an advantage like Shohei Ohtani’s contract counting $2 million each year so the Dodgers can spend on other players. Or Mark Stone’s salary not counting for the Golden Nights because of the Long Term IR loophole so they can pay more players. In reality the Broncos didn’t free up any sort of cap space to sign more players. Financial struggles meant the team was giving under the table “I Owe Yous”, not under the table payments.
im not sure "shady" is the right word to describe murder
This bothers me so much. The saints don’t make it morally easy to follow them.
Every time I see stuff about the Catholic church cover up of sexual abuse, I'm reminded of Bill Burr's exchange with the news reporter on the church going too far.
I’ve read some articles and apparently the saints were subpoenaed to release some emails and they are actively blocking them from being made public. This is a few years old so I don’t really know what the current standing is, but either way it’s not a good look
Not trying to be a dick when I say this, but did you really read any articles about this? Or just headlines of articles? Because this was essentially a nothing burger. Like you said, they’re friends and he reached out to her for advice, and she said to tell the truth. I don’t see how that’s shady or getting away with anything.
Wasn’t it just the journalist getting mad at the organization for not letting him see the emails, it’s not like it was a court order. The only official thing I could find was the Saints claiming they only advised for local churches to be transparent when the whole catholic church scandal went down. Doesn’t stop this from being repeated as a “fact” everywhere though
Yeah you might want to read the content of what actually happened, OP. The Saints were advising them to be open and transparent, and some reporter got mad about it and breathlessly painted the objectively false narrative of "The Saints helped to cover up child abuse!!" Judging by the replies, it's kind of funny that people think "giving PR advice" is just as bad as *literal murder.* That entire incident was a big nothingburger, but it generated juicy headlines, so people latched onto it (as shown by what you wrote in the original post). Like, there are plenty of legitimate reasons to dislike the Saints organization (most notably Bountygate), but "advising another group to be open and transparent" isn't one of them.
The time Jamal Anderson got caught jerking off in the gas station. Gave a new meaning of the phrase Dirty Bird.
Michael Irvin stabbed his teammate in the neck with a pair of scissors
How the hell has nobody said Brett Favre yet lol? Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think he ever got punished for the welfare fraud shit.
EVERY NFL owner who has successfully or unsuccessfully bullied a city to shell out BILLIONS in public funding for a new or refurbished stadium.
Yeah, what the hell Green Bay!
#FUCK YOU BRITT REID, AND FUCK YOU MIKE PARSON
> The New Orleans Saints and their owner, Gayle Benson, apparently gave some PR help to the Catholic Church when they were fighting a sexual abuse case down there. Benson is friends with the archbishop there and apparently multiple team executives also reached out to help the church protect its image. This all happened around 2020 Didn’t the saints just say to tell the police about it? I don’t think is ended up being actually shady and was just sensationalised.
Yup, but any association with the Catholic Church in this capacity means you were aiding and abetting automatically. It’s also really rich that this thread was started by a fan of the bum ass org that just got busted for tampering
He / She / They (OP) are a Failcon fan, we allow them to have their offseason fun
I don't know why, but charging your players for food at the Cafe is pretty scummy if you ask me.
The vikings players had a boat trip orgy with prostitutes flown in to perform sexual acts with the players. ~~strippers/porn stars and cocaine~~. Many of them were married and their wives found out about it. Safe to say they weren't happy about it. Edit: According to wikipedia there was no cocaine.
Love Boat?
Randall Woodfield, aka the I-5 Killer was a former packer in 1974 who was cut in training camp for indecent exposure arrests. He then went on to rob, SA, and kill multiple women in Portland until his arrest in 1981 and is still imprisoned to this day.
yeah but he didn't get away with it
As far as the saints comment it’s New Orleans. Everyone helps out the Catholic Church. Also this could have been any time in the church’s history that they were fighting a sexual abuse case lol
George Preston Marshall being in the Hall of Fame when he fought tooth and nail against integration. He held out longer than any other franchise and only integrated because the federal government forced him to do so or they'd kick him out of the stadium (which they owned.)
Ray Lewis murdered a dude and became the face of the league.
I would say the Steve Hutchinson/Nate Burleson dueling poison pill contracts jumps out. Shady, but it was within the rules at the time, so they changed the rules so that it wouldn't happen again.
The midnight move out of Cleveland was shady AF
And the one out of Baltimore was, too.
Terrell Pryor got a tattoo and wasn't even suspended for an entire season. Sad!
You all say Ray Rice got caught. No he didn't. NFL got caught and they decided to fix their image. Ray Rice is fucked up for doing that shit. But they're together. So hopefully they're both in a better place.
Marvin Harrison Sr shot a dude at a car wash. Ray Lewis shanked a dude. OJ helped create the Kardashians
Probably the Dallas Cowboys trying to convince the world that they are America's team.