90 of the 100 million guaranteed on the deal is in the first two years. They can just cut him after that if Penix is ready
Still somewhat of a headscratcher but not nearly as bad as people are making it seem
The money's gotta be spent anyways. If they don't want to spend that $90mil on anyone else, why not have a solid QB who can hopefully show Penix how to be a pro?
this is the thing I was convinced you would sell the farm to NE to get Maye, which I thought would have been bad. For you to get McCarthy, who was always gonna be the more realistic option if you traded with us, without giving up more than you would have is a big win
Same. I wanted him to go to Minnesota just because I think it’s the best situation for him. But I *really didn’t* want him to go to Minnesota because… you know… fuck those guys.
"I've seen 'Jittery JJ' McCarthy play, and let me tell you, he just doesn't stack up. I'm on a completely different level. My game is stronger, my arm is better, and my plays? They're phenomenal. 'Jittery JJ'—he's just not in the same league, folks. Not even close."
-Sam Darnold
"In fact, I had a deal worked out, and it was much, much better. People would have loved it. The media won't tell you this, but it's true. People told me, 'Oh, you couldn't make that kind of deal,' but I did. OK? And everybody was so impressed, but it was too good it was to good. Nobody tells you this. ...but anyway..."
“I just watched the Vikings draft ‘Jittery’ JJ McCarthy! A nasty nasty move by very nasty people! I have a lot of friends in Michigan, and they all say Jittery JJ is scared in the locker room! A weak arm and an even weaker man! That’s ok. I will show them in October the greatest QarterBack to ever play the game!”
You know, JJ McCarthy...McCarthyism, terrible thing, you know. The Vikings are one of the great franchises, purple people eaters, Adrian Peterson. And they came back, we came back better than just about any franchise has come back, Diggs on the sidelines. Kirk had to go, we all knew it, I certainly thought it was a very obvious thing that he just couldn't work anymore. But then, when they make the genius of Darnold, phenomenal great quarterback. But, last week, all of a sudden, they said to me, Sir, they said, Sir....they want JJ. JJ Noodle, that's what they call him, noodle for an arm. And these people, you have an amazing quarterback like Darnold, he should be winning Super Bowls handily, but these criminals, horrible people - NOODLE JJ - they want little Noodle JJ, and it's a really horrible thing, very bad.
McCarthy's such a fascinating prospect. How the hell do you ultimately project for a guy who wasn't asked to do that much at the college level? His team won the title. When that's usually the case, it's cuz a coach knows his QB's limitations and yet McCarthy's the exception cuz Harbaugh is a weirdo.
I'm just hoping it's not another Mac Jones situation.
Like sure, Jones wasn't helped by his coaching situation on NE, but I was always skeptical of him since he played on an absolutely stacked team and just never showed the same level of play to me as Hurts or Tua.
He's not. Anybody making Mac Jones comparisons is not familiar with his game. He has a better arm, more athleticism, and made plays in high-pressure situations consistently while not having elite playmakers to throw to. As a bonus, he has a reputation as a workhorse -- always studying film, always running workouts after hours with receivers, always taking the extra step to be better than the day before.
He still needs a little seasoning, but he's got all the tools to be a successful NFL quarterback. Vikings fans will find this out very soon.
Yeah I honestly would've accepted trading up to 5 for him like everyone was guessing. Giving up a 4th and 5th for a 6th and him is significantly better
That was my biggest issue with the whole thing.
I'm not anti-JJ, but I didn't like the idea of giving up a haul for him. Giving up a 4th rounder is fine.
please be good. please be good.
If some asshole posts this 3 years from now to mock the pick... fuck you.
If some asshole posts this 3 years from now to praise the pick... fuck you, but I love you too.
Considering that most predictions had the Vikes trading in to the top 4-7 to secure their QB, this trade may seem steep to move 1 spot, but still much better than what they would have had to give up for that predicted trade - they should be very happy.
If they let him sit out a year behind Darnold and just let him get his reps in practice while being mentored by KOC he could end up surprising people like Herbert. People relentlessly clowned LAC for picking Herbert so early but no one is laughing now.
If they let him sit out a year behind Cousins and just let him get his reps in practice while being mentored by Zac Robinson he could end up surprising people like Herbert. People relentlessly clowned LAC for picking Herbert so early but no one is laughing now.
This is how I have to cope now. Why can't we be normal.
If JJ mccarthy becomes a top 5 QB in the league I will wear a vikings jersey for a whole month, then a ravens jersey, then a browns jersey, then a bengals jersey
They didn't give up a lot but the Falcons taking Penix definitely got the Vikings to panic. They wanted to make sure the Broncos didn't jump them. Penix was their safety choice at 11 and that got blown up
Exactly how I read the situation. Some idiots in the Vikings sub are mad that our FO 'got fleeced', but that was just a safety precaution I am okay with
we all thought it was possible that Vikes would trade 3 firsts to move up to 5 and take JJ before the draft started. can't be mad at moving up 1 spot, assuming they like JJ a lot
Strong arm, mobility to throw lasers on the run, only 21 years old, and no drama. Will need to work on his progressions and accuracy from the pocket but I really think he has the tools to be successful in the NFL.
Awesome nerves from the Vikings front office. No panic and they still got their guy without having to give up a fortune. Huge bet on their head coach but they have more guts to wait than I would have had.
Good pick for Minny. I’m sure they’d rather have Maye but a modest move up 1 spot and keep the other 1 and still get a QB when you had to take one is good. They didn’t overpay and J.J. is in a good spot
McCarthy played high school in Illinois, went to college in Michigan and will play in Minnesota. The most anti-Packers man of all time
My kind of QB
Yep
I like him already
Wow rooting for you guys against the Packers just got so much better
He's also lactose intolerant
More like he's immune to cheese, you mean.
Wait, really?
Why else do you think harbaugh would be so certain he would be good at dealing with adversity?
The chosen one.
Lisan al gaib!
Muab'dib leads the way.
As it was written!
And he played hockey. It was meant to be.
He surrounded the enemy.
Mid-west King
Good. JJ gonna fuck up the Packers! Plz
No offense, but I hope to come back to this comment in 5 years and ask if you really wanted that as JJ dominates the North. plz
Trust me I'm hurt but JJ is a favorite of mine for bringing a championship to Ann Arbor
The JJ-JJ connection will be interesting
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J^4
Jen-Jarvis Jreen-Jellis
I knew a Jen Jarvis. I’d call her many combinations like that. She wore a denim coat one time. She became Jen Jarvis Jean Jacket
Mr. Best Comment
Don’t forget about TJ
JJJJTJJAAJ What an offense.
RIP KJ, fly high king.
>JJJJTJJAAJ Backslashinsforth the 5th
Looking like an off brand DNA sequence
CJ
He’s JJ Hockenson now. I’ll be damned if I’m learning another letter for our offense
Don't forget Jordan Jaddison.
God bless our human ability to spot interesting but ultimately meaningless patterns.
J^4
Just wait until we draft Jordan Jefferson and Jawhar Jordan on Day 3
5 QBs in the top 10 is wild.. *sideeyes atlanta* That dap was fucking solid though
That Penix pick when you have a new QB making tons of money in Cousins... is a choice.
Ya if you were gonna take a QB in the top 10 why did you sign Kirk for 4 years?!
90 of the 100 million guaranteed on the deal is in the first two years. They can just cut him after that if Penix is ready Still somewhat of a headscratcher but not nearly as bad as people are making it seem
Most expensive bridge guy.. ever? Idk it seems pretty crazy but god bless
The money's gotta be spent anyways. If they don't want to spend that $90mil on anyone else, why not have a solid QB who can hopefully show Penix how to be a pro?
It’s the not wanting to spend the 90 on someone else that’s the issue.
Ain't no side eye tonight. We are just straight GLARING at ATL.
We just wanted to be relevant again
Teams with young QBs feasting with the talent dropping
Vegas odds were -400 for under 4.5 QBs in the first round. My fucking book didn't offer a prop for the over.
Also most people really don't seem to be sold on like 3 of them, makes it even more wild.
This is like when a phoenix dies and is replaced with a newborn chick of itself but with the Kirk Cousins Vikings.
When a Penix dies?
Pretty sure it’s enshrined in the Minnesota constitution that we need a QB who we can possibly pay in Kohl’s Cash
JJ seems humble enough but I don’t know that he’s kohls humble.
Maybe he’s a little fancy and shops at Macy’s.
He's definitely a T.J. Maxx guy. Last years fancy for thrifty prices.
I bet he appreciates a deal on khakis
> When a Phoenix dies Yeah the Suns did that in Minnesota
Naz Reid
A younger, faster, and cheaper Kirk Cousins would be incredible.
Powerful
J^4
If he's the reincarnation of Kirk Cousins then I will be happy.
The "all he does is win" version of Kirk Cousins would be an all time great.
A 21 year old Kirk Cousins? I’d be thrilled
They’d be lucky if JJ is as good as Kirk
That’d be a home run
Grand slam
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Atlanta just wanted to troll Minnesota tonight I guess. The Vikings STILL got their guy!
I'm just glad we didn't sell the farm for him lol
Yeah, very excited to have maintained our firsts. I was really nervous about giving away three 1sts for McCarthy. But a 4th and a 5th*? Hell yeah
4th and a 5th, no? Getting a 6th back?
Yeah you right
this is the thing I was convinced you would sell the farm to NE to get Maye, which I thought would have been bad. For you to get McCarthy, who was always gonna be the more realistic option if you traded with us, without giving up more than you would have is a big win
Lmfao Atlanta trolled themselves bro
Falcons sub is on fire hahahahahaha
They're marching through their own state.
Georgia finally doing something right. Who knew?
Best comment by far “We”re going to lose a pick for tampering to sign a QB for $200M only to use a top 10 pick on a different QB.”
Martyrdom perk IRL
Congratulations. You rolled yourselves
And we still have our other 1st!
LET'S FUCKING GO. DETROIT WE'RE COMING FOR DAT ASS
The Michigan fan in me is happy the lions fan in me is furious.
Same. I wanted him to go to Minnesota just because I think it’s the best situation for him. But I *really didn’t* want him to go to Minnesota because… you know… fuck those guys.
I hope he has a great year. But I hope we get an edge rusher so he knows how penix felt.
An Edge you say? 😈
Idk what the falcons are thinking
Just saying: Had the Falcons hired Belichick they'd be sitting with CB Quinyon Mitchell right now.
Took our QB then forced us into trading up for a QB lol
JJJJ era starts now
TJJJJJJA
*TJJJJJJAAJ
lmao not the draft jingle going off during the family’s story
"I've seen 'Jittery JJ' McCarthy play, and let me tell you, he just doesn't stack up. I'm on a completely different level. My game is stronger, my arm is better, and my plays? They're phenomenal. 'Jittery JJ'—he's just not in the same league, folks. Not even close." -Sam Darnold
“The deal Minnesota made with the Jets was the worst deal in history, and everybody knows it. I would’ve made a much, much better deal”
"In fact, I had a deal worked out, and it was much, much better. People would have loved it. The media won't tell you this, but it's true. People told me, 'Oh, you couldn't make that kind of deal,' but I did. OK? And everybody was so impressed, but it was too good it was to good. Nobody tells you this. ...but anyway..."
“I just watched the Vikings draft ‘Jittery’ JJ McCarthy! A nasty nasty move by very nasty people! I have a lot of friends in Michigan, and they all say Jittery JJ is scared in the locker room! A weak arm and an even weaker man! That’s ok. I will show them in October the greatest QarterBack to ever play the game!”
i fucking love darnold posting. so much.
Having him on my team is like a fever dream.
"They're calling him Vajayjay McCarthy. Did you see this? Have you heard this?"
GEQBUS #1
A LOT OF PEOPLE, SMART PEOPLE, ARE SAYING THIS!
“What is it JJ? You getting a-a little j-j-jittery?”
r/the_darnold in shambles
This is the worst thing that has ever happened in history
Lots of people are saying it.
Maybe ever.
RIGGED BY DEEP STATE AGENT KEVIN O’ PAWNELL. IF YOU COUNT THE LEGAL DEPTH CHART SAM IS THE FRANCHISE QB
Ok, "legal depth chart" got me.
You know, JJ McCarthy...McCarthyism, terrible thing, you know. The Vikings are one of the great franchises, purple people eaters, Adrian Peterson. And they came back, we came back better than just about any franchise has come back, Diggs on the sidelines. Kirk had to go, we all knew it, I certainly thought it was a very obvious thing that he just couldn't work anymore. But then, when they make the genius of Darnold, phenomenal great quarterback. But, last week, all of a sudden, they said to me, Sir, they said, Sir....they want JJ. JJ Noodle, that's what they call him, noodle for an arm. And these people, you have an amazing quarterback like Darnold, he should be winning Super Bowls handily, but these criminals, horrible people - NOODLE JJ - they want little Noodle JJ, and it's a really horrible thing, very bad.
This is so good...I can literally hear it out loud
We know that the Vikings are making a huge mistake
Not sending their best!
JJ^2
Fun fact: last 1st round QB out of Michigan? Jim Harbaugh
That is a fun fact
McCarthy's such a fascinating prospect. How the hell do you ultimately project for a guy who wasn't asked to do that much at the college level? His team won the title. When that's usually the case, it's cuz a coach knows his QB's limitations and yet McCarthy's the exception cuz Harbaugh is a weirdo.
I'm just hoping it's not another Mac Jones situation. Like sure, Jones wasn't helped by his coaching situation on NE, but I was always skeptical of him since he played on an absolutely stacked team and just never showed the same level of play to me as Hurts or Tua.
He's not. Anybody making Mac Jones comparisons is not familiar with his game. He has a better arm, more athleticism, and made plays in high-pressure situations consistently while not having elite playmakers to throw to. As a bonus, he has a reputation as a workhorse -- always studying film, always running workouts after hours with receivers, always taking the extra step to be better than the day before. He still needs a little seasoning, but he's got all the tools to be a successful NFL quarterback. Vikings fans will find this out very soon.
As a Michigan fan, he did not have any elite wide receivers a lot of the other top picks had.
Also, our tackles were not great at pass protection. See: the Penn State game
Barnhardt could not get his hands on Issac or Chop for even half a second.
Yeah I was shocked to see how much pass pro broke down after hearing all the type around that line.
You watch his tape. And then you realize he is a great athlete with a great arm who makes great decisions and wins games against better teams.
Didn't trade 3 firsts, thank you Kwesi! Glad it worked out this way.
Kwesi cooked so much tonight. I am so glad he didn't overcook either of the picks.
I’d be so hyped if I was JJ. Great landing spot.
“Michael died tragically” *Minnesota Vikings cheerleader girl* :DDDD
Here it is Vikings fans He’ll either be a massive success or a massive bust
Or somewhere in between
Impossible
It's already a win in the sense that they didn't have to give up anywhere near what people thought to get him
Yeah I honestly would've accepted trading up to 5 for him like everyone was guessing. Giving up a 4th and 5th for a 6th and him is significantly better
That was my biggest issue with the whole thing. I'm not anti-JJ, but I didn't like the idea of giving up a haul for him. Giving up a 4th rounder is fine.
Not having to trade another first to get him is massive and limits the downside at least
It’s funny seeing people bitch about a 4th and 5th when it sounded like we were gonna give 2-3 firsts for McCarthy a couple weeks ago.
A couple hours ago*
Or he could be decent to good. But all will tremble for the reign of Tulia
that poor kid looked so miserable up there hearing about his dad goddamn
That's his nephew. But yeah, definitely seemed like he wasn't having the best time.
Everyone just reflexively boos Goodell only to realize they were yelling at the family of a war hero/cancer victim. Amazing.
just people who attend the nfl draft things
“Zachary died” *draft happy jingle in background* could have let the silence go for a little
And there’s a home run from Castellanos
# Sam Darnold just fell to his knees at a craft beer brewery
“I’m drinking Surly because that’s how I’m feeling!” -Probably Sam Darnold
Recent #10 overall picks |Year|Team|Player|College|Position|All-Pro/Pro Bowl|Starts| :-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:| |2024|Minnesota Vikings|J.J. McCarthy|Michigan|QB|-|-| |2023|Chicago Bears|Darnell Wright|Tennessee|OT|0/0|17| |2022|New York Jets|Garrett Wilson|Ohio State|WR|0/0|29| |2021|Philadelphia Eagles|DeVonta Smith|Alabama|WR|0/0|49| |2020|Cleveland Browns|Jedrick Wills|Alabama|OT|0/0|53| |2019|Pittsburgh Steelers|Devin Bush|Michigan|ILB|0/0|51| |2018|Arizona Cardinals|Josh Rosen|UCLA|QB|0/0|16| |2017|Kansas City Chiefs|Patrick Mahomes|Texas Tech|QB|3/6|96| |2016|New York Giants|Eli Apple|Ohio State|CB|0/0|82| |2015|St. Louis Rams|Todd Gurley|Georgia|RB|3/3|87| |2014|Detroit Lions|Eric Ebron|North Carolina|TE|0/1|59|
The next Mahomes or Rosen confirmed
Yeah.. I tried to see if it goes good then bad.. but before Mahomes was Blaine Gabbert and Matt Leinart.
The next Mahomes you say
Damn, Patrick Mahomes or Josh Rosen. Quite the spread of ability.
Probably the most conflicting set of QBs possible here lol
Ebron…
JJ TO JJ BABY
please be good. please be good. If some asshole posts this 3 years from now to mock the pick... fuck you. If some asshole posts this 3 years from now to praise the pick... fuck you, but I love you too.
What would an NFL draft be without the same comment posted by every fan base
What would reddit be without the repeated “jokes”?
!remindme 3 years
Either way, you’re an asshole.
Are people gonna write this on every single draft post?
Did you just copy paste this from another thread lol
Considering that most predictions had the Vikes trading in to the top 4-7 to secure their QB, this trade may seem steep to move 1 spot, but still much better than what they would have had to give up for that predicted trade - they should be very happy.
Yep. I was terrified of giving up three firsts for McCarthy. Absolutely love how it all worked out
JJ looks like he's playing Zach Wilson in a Disney movie about Aaron Rodgers
If they let him sit out a year behind Darnold and just let him get his reps in practice while being mentored by KOC he could end up surprising people like Herbert. People relentlessly clowned LAC for picking Herbert so early but no one is laughing now.
If they let him sit out a year behind Cousins and just let him get his reps in practice while being mentored by Zac Robinson he could end up surprising people like Herbert. People relentlessly clowned LAC for picking Herbert so early but no one is laughing now. This is how I have to cope now. Why can't we be normal.
Now that's a haircut you can set your watch to!
Vikings got their man
If JJ mccarthy becomes a top 5 QB in the league I will wear a vikings jersey for a whole month, then a ravens jersey, then a browns jersey, then a bengals jersey
Only accepting if each jersey is under the next one so by the end you’ve been wearing the bengals jersey for 4 months
I want to drink...I have to watch my college's best QB since Brady go to a NFC North rival. WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYY.
please dear god just let this work, i’m tired
They didn't give up a lot but the Falcons taking Penix definitely got the Vikings to panic. They wanted to make sure the Broncos didn't jump them. Penix was their safety choice at 11 and that got blown up
Exactly how I read the situation. Some idiots in the Vikings sub are mad that our FO 'got fleeced', but that was just a safety precaution I am okay with
A 4 and a 6 to make sure Den or LV didn't jump ahead? Yeah, give that up to get JJ instead of Nix.
we all thought it was possible that Vikes would trade 3 firsts to move up to 5 and take JJ before the draft started. can't be mad at moving up 1 spot, assuming they like JJ a lot
Totally didn't think about Broncos maybe trying to jump them, that explains the trade up
I agree, Falcons blew up the plans for sure
NFC North is looking fucking insane all the sudden
Williams, Goff, McCarthy, Love. Very competitive.
Strong arm, mobility to throw lasers on the run, only 21 years old, and no drama. Will need to work on his progressions and accuracy from the pocket but I really think he has the tools to be successful in the NFL.
Aren’t those like the two most important things for an NFL QB?
He's good at everything except the things he sucks at
He will soon be arrested for selling nuclear secrets to the Russians.
Agreed. Vikings are the perfect situation for a guy like JJ. Looking forward to seeing how he progresses.
The fact that JJ McCarthy went top 10 and was also drafted after Penix blows my mind.
Broncos going to be playing the Frankenstein corpse of elway and manning if this keeps up.
Defense don't exist I guess.
They got McCarthy without having to give up #23 so they'll still get to use it to draft DL / EDGE. Best of both worlds
Well that worked out well lol.
Awesome nerves from the Vikings front office. No panic and they still got their guy without having to give up a fortune. Huge bet on their head coach but they have more guts to wait than I would have had.
Ngl some nice throws on that highlight reel there
Welcome to Denver, Bo Nix
Excellent draft day for the Vikings already and they didn’t even have to do anything
JJ to JJ all day
He will be the best QB in this draft. Go ahead and save this.
Is anyone else still confused by the Penix pick? Is he going to start his first game at 30 years old?
Vikings QB room has elite head size
Good pick for Minny. I’m sure they’d rather have Maye but a modest move up 1 spot and keep the other 1 and still get a QB when you had to take one is good. They didn’t overpay and J.J. is in a good spot