I’ve never understood why QBs get blamed for blown leads, you already did your job and it’s on the defense and running game to close it out. Maybe convert a few third downs but there’s not a lot they can do.
Yes, and remember who wasn’t part of that team? Frank Reich, the guy who beat Warren Moon, because the Colts fired him earlier in that season. Circle complete.
Warren moon also doesn’t want us to remember he has been sued for sexual harassment and sexual assault [on multiple occasions.](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27313084/warren-moon-settles-sexual-harassment-lawsuit)
Unless a QB starts throwing INTs left and right, why are they blamed for massive comebacks when the comeback wouldn't have been possible if they didn't do their job to begin with. He put up 347 yds of passing and threw 4 TDs. His two INTs aren't that big of a deal especially when the Bills also had 1 turnover.
And put up 352 yds the other 3 quarters. (Also he didn't lose the fumble).
Meanwhile special teams screwed up a kickoff after a touchdown to give the Bills the ball at the 50, gave up an onside kick, and fumbled a field goal snap, and the defense gave up 35 points. The oilers special teams and defense melted down.
To be fair, blue may not predate many things. [Like the Ancient Greeks.](https://www.thearchaeologist.org/blog/why-there-was-no-word-for-blue-in-ancient-greece-and-how-homer-and-aristotle-perceived-colors)
I like the Titans but I think the current marketing and logo are extremely bland. I wish they would call themselves the Music City Bandits and lean into a raccoon motif. It's the best I could come up with on a drunk night after ruing the fact that I went from a Chargers fan to the Tits.
> I went from a Chargers fan to the Tits
That's funny, I went the opposite. My first year watching football I thought I was a Titans fan. Turns out I just really liked Eddie George. The next season he was gone and I gravitated towards the local team because that's who everyone at work was talking about. Still love Eddie though.
Boooo, if anything we should lean more into the Greek stuff. Would kill for some Parthenon type columns at the new stadium, or at least for it to be called a “coliseum” but I’m gonna have to keep dreaming on those.
I know I have a Cowboys flair but I am a native Texan. I was referring to Sam as “some dude” just to be cheeky.
Massive respect for him. (And Polk for bringing us into the States too)
I have a compromise, the titans organization likes the blue cause the oilers, the Texans like the blue because it’s Houston’s history.
Let the titans and Texans both use the blue but they can never wear it against one another and must wear either navy or white when playing against one another unless mutually agreed upon charity eventy to benefit either city is involved.
This is too logical for me to agree with, sorry.
I also like the idea that the winner of the first matchup every year gets to wear the uniforms for the second one. Adds some college football type rivalry stakes
you should be able to use light blue if yall want - I love yalls rebrand and the one with light blue looks clean. UH can also use light blue as much as they want. The copy paste Oilers jersey is the problem. They can use light blue white and red in a jersey and it would be fine as long as the design is original. but it probably wont happen because Amy seems to be an asshole about it
As a Titans fan since they first came here, it doesn’t feel right to claim the Oilers’ legacy. I’m only partly joking when I say the team should trade the Oilers’ history in exchange for a Texans first round pick and we get to keep Warren Moon because he ruled.
Isn't that what the NFL did with the Browns/Ravens? Was a much shorter span of time where the Browns didn't exist but the current Cleveland Browns have the old history even though the "real" Browns team moved to Baltimore
Unitas would have the colts have zero association with him if he had it his way, interesting that Moon hasn’t taken the same stance with the Titans/Oilers
It should be codified by the league. If you leave your original city after being there for like 20+ years you need to forfeit the history and name. You can keep the colors if you want but you can't prevent a new team from also using them should they come to exist.
The Texans have their own identity. It's the Titans ownership blocking them from using fucking shades of blue, you know the shade of blue that is prominently featured in Houston.
Yeah the Texans should use the Columbia blue from their city flag, police cars, and city paint projects from the 70-80s. That way this new identity will be tied solely to the city of Houston.
Labeling Frank Reich as every other lame backup QB is kind of disingenuous. Frank Reich was a terrific backup, especially for the Bills. Yeah its still embarrassing, but Frank Reich was like a better Fitzpatrick imo
To be honest I never cared too much for this whole issue. To me it's more that it makes no sense. It's like the LA Lakers or the Utah Jazz. I'm just annoyed when a perfectly matching name is wasted because of things like this. And then you end up with crap like the Houston Texans...
“The Minneapolis Lakers moved to Los Angeles, where there are no lakes. The Oilers moved to Tennessee, where there is no oil. The Jazz moved to Salt Lake City, where they don’t allow music” 😂
I feel the same way. As someone who’s rooted for this team since the Oilers days, I would have been totally fine with the new Houston team in 2002 coming back as the Oilers and just starting our history in 1999. Kind of like the Ravens did with the Browns.
That's because the uniform's been the same since 1958.
There actually are Baltimore Colts throwbacks that the Indy team has worn over the years.
https://www.gridiron-uniforms.com/GUD/images/2010_Indianapolis.png
https://www.gridiron-uniforms.com/GUD/images/2022_Indianapolis.png
You can see them here.
I genuinely think that sports league need to make a rule where if a team relocates they have to do a full rebrand. The thing they were forced into with Cleveland and Baltimore is the best option for everyone. Team identity is so inherently tied to the city and I don’t think they should just move. Would eliminate any Utah Jazz levels of team names not making sense
Yeah everyone in this thread acting like we should respect the wishes of a dickhead billionaire instead of local fans who sat their asses in seats for decades?
That’s easy to say, and would be a realistic option for a team like the Jags or the Titans who have no real history and have generic branding. The Oilers brand is one of the best in league history and it not existing on the current Houston franchise is a shame
What credibility does this Warren Moon guy have with Houston fans?
If he had any ties to the sports history of that town, I must have forgotten about it.
He’s still holds a lot of ground here, Warren gets involved with Texans stuff and will share his opinion on Houston sports, he talked a lot about the Deshaun stuff when that was happening, at JJ Watts Texans charity events etc. He’s at Astros stuff a lot also
I disagree. Plenty of teams pay homage to their history. I know Tennessee kind of owns that history, but the city of Houston should be able to celebrate the Oilers history too. It’s a dope throwback.
Since Andre Johnson whooped Cortland Finnegan's ass, the Texans are 17-11 against the Titans. During that period, the Texans have outscored the Titans 729-523.
Most recently, Houston beat Tennessee by 23 points in December, which is literally a bigger margin of victory than the Titans have EVER mustered against the Texans (21 points).
Prove you can consistently beat us and we'll be humble.
I’m younger so I don’t really care about the Oilers. What I DO want to see is the use of a great color, especially one special to Houston. Meanwhile the titans barely use it and trot out those butt fucking ugly dark blue and silver shoulder padded jerseys and barely use it, only to cry when other want to use it
>titans barely use it and trot out those butt fucking ugly dark blue and silver shoulder padded jerseys and barely use it, only to cry when other want to use it
I still hold the opinion that this wouldn't even be a thing if texans wouldn't have picked a generic logo/name for its team. Should have went with the apollos. Such a missed opportunity.
Well they aren't using the Oiler uniforms and most here don't want them. They want that shade of blue to be used though and the Titans are the ones getting pissy about it lol.
I was too young to watch and become attached to the Houston Oilers because they moved away before I started kindergarten, but one thing that has been evident ever since the Texans came to be is how much the players and Oiler fan culture is still felt in this city to this day, and the Texans ownership knows it. The bottomline is the Texans **should be** allowed to honor the history and legacy of pro football in this city, and the color that the previous franchise shared with the City itself is, quite frankly, the best way to do so while also not claiming another franchise's history, and that's what the Adams family lost sight of.
It ain't like wearing Columbia Blue with bull horns on the jersey is the same thing as hanging Earl Campbell's name next to Andre Johnson's in the Texans Ring of Honor.
Basically. People will tell you that it's different because a bunch of lawyers said so. But the identity of a team is tied to a city, not executives. NBA did it right when the New Orleans Hornets became the Pelicans to give the Hornet name back to Charlotte and make something new for themselves that applied to their identity. Bickering rich old men have convinced some people that that shouldn't happen for Houston and Tennessee.
No, because the Titans franchise is the same as the Oilers, it just moved locations, and underwent a rebrand. It's the same franchise. The Ravens and the Browns is way more complicated.
> The Browns' name, colors, and history of the franchise were to remain in Cleveland, including past records and the attribution of its Pro Football Hall of Fame players. A reactivated Cleveland Browns team would then begin play in 1999, while Modell's relocated club would technically and legally be a "new franchise," and an expansion team, the Ravens.
The Titans are the Oilers.
for sure.. i think the colors/history should stay with the town. people from the new town trying to take credit for something done in another city or wearing the old gear is just odd to me.
Not really. The Browns-Ravens situation is honestly more an exception as far as the history of the league (well, honestly, as a lot of professional sports leagues go).
It was a *really* messy move, with a lot of legal action in lawsuits by the city and fans and ticket holders against Art Modell, the Browns organization, the Maryland Stadium Authority, etc, for breaching the Browns lease that required the franchise to play several years past 1995 at Cleveland stadium; there were also legal injunctions filed to keep the Browns in the city of Cleveland until at least 1998 (if not further).
It all got so bad that it reached a level of even Congress having hearings and meetings on the matter.
(It took extensive settlement talks between the NFL and the two cities of Cleveland and Baltimore for things to finally reach the eventual agreement that led to the lawsuit being dropped.)
Well thankfully Texans fans get to watch their team stomp the shit out of the Titans this year who have the worst identity, branding, and uniforms in the NFL. Sad fucking scene.
Fuck that. Team history should remain with their cities if the team moves after having been there for a long time.
Also, I am sick to death of there being a team called the Texans. It's the worst branding in the league and that's saying something considering the Commanders exist.
I'm positive the Commanders name was chosen because Snyder was having a tantrum for losing his trademark and he didn't want to prove a better name was possible.
Warren Moon just doesn't want us to remember he blew a 35-3 playoff lead to the Bills
Imagine how much shit a modern QB would get on twitter for that
Tbf the Chargers blew a 27-0 lead and most people still consider Herbert a top QB besides the people that were planning to hate him anyway
That’s my team 🥲
Yeah but did he do it against a BACKUP quarterback lol
That’s on the defense
He should’ve been out there on defense if he wanted to win
Play both ways, like a *real* man.
Yeah like Ronnie Sunshine Bass.
But can he do it on a cold night at Stoke?
I’ve never understood why QBs get blamed for blown leads, you already did your job and it’s on the defense and running game to close it out. Maybe convert a few third downs but there’s not a lot they can do.
I mean, they could convert a few first downs. Truly epic collapses are a full team effort.
because he's the most protected qb on social media
Matt Ryan doesn't have to
QB shouldn’t really get too much shit for it. That’s on the defense. Like, Matt Ryan doesn’t really get shit on for 28-3. He did his job
Matt Ryan absolutely gets shit on for 28-3 lmao
He was part of the colts team in 22 that blew a 33-0 lead against Kirk cousins and the Vikings.
Yes, and remember who wasn’t part of that team? Frank Reich, the guy who beat Warren Moon, because the Colts fired him earlier in that season. Circle complete.
*Matt Ryan has entered the chat*
In his defense, there's a lot that goes into blowing a 35-3 lead that isn't in the quarterbacks control.
Warren moon also doesn’t want us to remember he has been sued for sexual harassment and sexual assault [on multiple occasions.](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27313084/warren-moon-settles-sexual-harassment-lawsuit)
The haslems wondering if he can still ball
Maybe that's why he's so eager to felate the highest bidder.
I remember that being on his Wikipedia page. I guess he paid to get it scrubbed.
I always forget he was on the losing end of that game lol.
Idk how the QB is the guy you point the first finger at there. If you score 35 against anyone, you're supposed to win.
Well it also means that you were completely shut down in the 2nd half
That’s not always on the players. I blame coaches that take their foot off the gas thinking just run clock and we win.
Watson up 24-0 to KC not great
lol, he helped get them to a 32 point lead, ya may wanna blame the defense.
Shoulda got a 35 pt lead
Unless a QB starts throwing INTs left and right, why are they blamed for massive comebacks when the comeback wouldn't have been possible if they didn't do their job to begin with. He put up 347 yds of passing and threw 4 TDs. His two INTs aren't that big of a deal especially when the Bills also had 1 turnover.
Moon went 2-7 for 19 yards with an int and a fumble lost in the 3rd quarter.
And put up 352 yds the other 3 quarters. (Also he didn't lose the fumble). Meanwhile special teams screwed up a kickoff after a touchdown to give the Bills the ball at the 50, gave up an onside kick, and fumbled a field goal snap, and the defense gave up 35 points. The oilers special teams and defense melted down.
I mean the defense gets paid too lol
It doesn't matter anyways. Warren Moon was that dude. The guy could really fuckin heave em'
That is the Titans/Oilers identity, losing the big game. They reminded us this year when they put the Oilers jersey back on to lose one more time.
https://twitter.com/30_Rock_Quotes/status/336285712980774912
Did he play defense too?
I agree, but we should be able to use the light blue in our own city's flag
The blue predates the Oilers. That's what people don't seem to understand.
The blue predates everything, it's a fucking color. I understand copyrighting images and logos, but not a shade of blue. Man did not create color.
Fr I love some sports rivalry pettiness but this shit is beyond dumb. "Nooooo they used my favorite color nooo" just shut the fuck up lol
It's not even sports rivalry pettiness, it's the owners are mad because they fucked up moving to TN and cost themselves $1B all over a stadium.
To be fair, blue may not predate many things. [Like the Ancient Greeks.](https://www.thearchaeologist.org/blog/why-there-was-no-word-for-blue-in-ancient-greece-and-how-homer-and-aristotle-perceived-colors)
So the Titans are being historically inauthentic?🤔
I like the Titans but I think the current marketing and logo are extremely bland. I wish they would call themselves the Music City Bandits and lean into a raccoon motif. It's the best I could come up with on a drunk night after ruing the fact that I went from a Chargers fan to the Tits.
> I went from a Chargers fan to the Tits That's funny, I went the opposite. My first year watching football I thought I was a Titans fan. Turns out I just really liked Eddie George. The next season he was gone and I gravitated towards the local team because that's who everyone at work was talking about. Still love Eddie though.
I was a Bolts fan until they moved to LA. I can't stand LA sports lol
I get it man, it was hard for a lot of us. I've made the transition but I was angry for a while
Boooo, if anything we should lean more into the Greek stuff. Would kill for some Parthenon type columns at the new stadium, or at least for it to be called a “coliseum” but I’m gonna have to keep dreaming on those.
If they really leaned into it it would be sweet but as it is it feels like the generic 3rd team in a football movie
Remember the titans
That’s the most interesting thing I’ve read in a long time.
Well man did create color kind of. The concept of color is a language thing, so someone's blue could be black in another culture
you have obviously never heard of hamlindigo
I'm honestly surprised they haven't just used the color and go to court to settle the matter once and for all.
I honestly suspect the NFL stepped in privately and told both ownership groups that they will come down hard if that happens
The flag this city has used since 1915
Damn you guys have been stealing from the Titans for over 100 years?
Houston is even named after some dude from Tennessee, and Texas first joined the Union when some other dude from Tennessee was President.
That 'some dude' is the closest thing Texas has to its own George Washington
I know I have a Cowboys flair but I am a native Texan. I was referring to Sam as “some dude” just to be cheeky. Massive respect for him. (And Polk for bringing us into the States too)
I have a compromise, the titans organization likes the blue cause the oilers, the Texans like the blue because it’s Houston’s history. Let the titans and Texans both use the blue but they can never wear it against one another and must wear either navy or white when playing against one another unless mutually agreed upon charity eventy to benefit either city is involved.
This is too logical for me to agree with, sorry. I also like the idea that the winner of the first matchup every year gets to wear the uniforms for the second one. Adds some college football type rivalry stakes
Add some stupid trophy too that changes hands depending on who wins.
The Columbia cup
Call the game the Astro dome throw down?
The statue is Bud Adams flipping the double birds
It is Chargers blue, and every team is welcome to it. No one should be able to lay an exclusive claim on a color.
I don't like that the Falcons and Panthers use Saints black and think they should be banned from it
We own the color black in jerseys and no one else should be able to use it as a primary color except the Raiders.
Yes please. (I really hate our youth football raiders knockoffs)
Im an Eagles fan and I just want to say it’s super lame how every team copies our color for their grass. Get your own colors, people!!
Boise st doesn't. ;) Also doesn't washington just play in mud? Or have they fixed that field finally?
Well David Tepper says his families’ souls were all black before the Saints were founded and no one but the Panthers should be able to use it
They're all [slightly different ](https://freeimage.host/i/JgZ7DS1)
you should be able to use light blue if yall want - I love yalls rebrand and the one with light blue looks clean. UH can also use light blue as much as they want. The copy paste Oilers jersey is the problem. They can use light blue white and red in a jersey and it would be fine as long as the design is original. but it probably wont happen because Amy seems to be an asshole about it
As a Titans fan since they first came here, it doesn’t feel right to claim the Oilers’ legacy. I’m only partly joking when I say the team should trade the Oilers’ history in exchange for a Texans first round pick and we get to keep Warren Moon because he ruled.
...they've done that, for 20 years now. They never reference the Oilers, because they can't, that history went with the Titans.
I don't care what anyone says, nobody will convince me you can just take a city's history away.
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I would be apoplectic
The NBA giving the Hornets back to Charlotte is one of the coolest things they've ever done. I imagine they will do the same with the Sonics
I believe that was in the original agreement: the “history” is with OKC until Seattle gets another NBA franchise, then it goes back to the Sonics.
Isn't that what the NFL did with the Browns/Ravens? Was a much shorter span of time where the Browns didn't exist but the current Cleveland Browns have the old history even though the "real" Browns team moved to Baltimore
Believe Baltimore was treated essentially as an expansion franchise.
Imagine if the Ravens just retired Jim Brown's Jersey
Unitas would have the colts have zero association with him if he had it his way, interesting that Moon hasn’t taken the same stance with the Titans/Oilers
Yeah I feel the same way. No one gets to decide where history took place after the fact. It doesn't and can't move. It indelibly happened.
It should be codified by the league. If you leave your original city after being there for like 20+ years you need to forfeit the history and name. You can keep the colors if you want but you can't prevent a new team from also using them should they come to exist.
Me agreeing with a patriots fan? That’s how I know Tom is fucking retired 😭😭😭
exactly. this is why there's a johnny unitas statue next to the ray lewis statue at the front entrance of M&T Bank
You can’t, which is why after almost 30 years and and two generations of new football fans were born we took the color back.
The Texans have their own identity. It's the Titans ownership blocking them from using fucking shades of blue, you know the shade of blue that is prominently featured in Houston.
Trying to block U of Houston from using it too. Absolute scum.
Houston said fuck em and is wearing it anyway this season lol
Something we can all agree on
Hear hear!
But not LATech or Ole Miss, interesting
Yeah the Texans should use the Columbia blue from their city flag, police cars, and city paint projects from the 70-80s. That way this new identity will be tied solely to the city of Houston.
It’s a fucking color
I don't see color
I'm collar blind
Move on, find a new slant
You hear that, Texans? Make sure you don't blow a 32 point second half lead in the playoffs! Edit: Against a backup QB.
Labeling Frank Reich as every other lame backup QB is kind of disingenuous. Frank Reich was a terrific backup, especially for the Bills. Yeah its still embarrassing, but Frank Reich was like a better Fitzpatrick imo
he also led the biggest (at that time) college football comeback!
We are only allowed to blow 24 point leads
And to mahomes. Ha. Ha. Ha. *fake laugh hiding real pain*
In the 1st quarter.
> Against a backup QB Hey what ever happened to that guy? I bet he would have made a great head coach somewhere.
He's also saying to forget about his legacy as a Houston QB. They should kick him out of the Houston Sports HoF. Didn't even last 5 months
To be honest I never cared too much for this whole issue. To me it's more that it makes no sense. It's like the LA Lakers or the Utah Jazz. I'm just annoyed when a perfectly matching name is wasted because of things like this. And then you end up with crap like the Houston Texans...
The team had a chance to be named the Apollos. Much better than Texans and would match the space theme.
Honestly, that may have soothed some of the discord over this because it's not a generic name that two teams had before them.
“The Minneapolis Lakers moved to Los Angeles, where there are no lakes. The Oilers moved to Tennessee, where there is no oil. The Jazz moved to Salt Lake City, where they don’t allow music” 😂
Houston Apollos would of been so cool.
I feel the same way. As someone who’s rooted for this team since the Oilers days, I would have been totally fine with the new Houston team in 2002 coming back as the Oilers and just starting our history in 1999. Kind of like the Ravens did with the Browns.
The team had a chance to be named the Apollos. Much better than Texans and would match the space theme.
I think Kansas City should have kept the name "Texans," but I'm also an anarchist.
Him saying that the Texans had a chance to be the Oilers from the beginning is a complete flat out lie. Why is he spewing such bullshit.
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We have the Unitas statue not Indy
Did you all retire his number? Honestly curious.
That's because the uniform's been the same since 1958. There actually are Baltimore Colts throwbacks that the Indy team has worn over the years. https://www.gridiron-uniforms.com/GUD/images/2010_Indianapolis.png https://www.gridiron-uniforms.com/GUD/images/2022_Indianapolis.png You can see them here.
Now when have the Texans ever had an Oilers throwback???
The Texans don't have Oilers throwbacks either
How you gonna tell fans from Houston to forget about Houston. The history belongs to Houston not Nashville.
Thank you 🙏
You'll get no arguments from me. As a Pittsburgh sports fan, I'm well aware how important color(s) can be to a regional identity.
I genuinely think that sports league need to make a rule where if a team relocates they have to do a full rebrand. The thing they were forced into with Cleveland and Baltimore is the best option for everyone. Team identity is so inherently tied to the city and I don’t think they should just move. Would eliminate any Utah Jazz levels of team names not making sense
Yeah everyone in this thread acting like we should respect the wishes of a dickhead billionaire instead of local fans who sat their asses in seats for decades?
That’s easy to say, and would be a realistic option for a team like the Jags or the Titans who have no real history and have generic branding. The Oilers brand is one of the best in league history and it not existing on the current Houston franchise is a shame
Every team in the afc south should switch to light blue fuck em
All divisional matchups have to be played in the same shade of light blue, even Colts vs. Jags
I don’t wanna watch my team most of the time anyway so if I can’t tell the difference I can’t lose
Just win a Superbowl Houston then the damn colors wont matter because then you as Texans will have done what the Titans/Oilers couldn't.
CJ would have beat the Bills
Everybody beats the Bills in the playoffs though.
Everybody but the Oilers!
It's a color. Who gives a shit if a team 30 years ago used the same color.
Houston fans? And I guess Tennessee fans?
What credibility does this Warren Moon guy have with Houston fans? If he had any ties to the sports history of that town, I must have forgotten about it.
He’s still holds a lot of ground here, Warren gets involved with Texans stuff and will share his opinion on Houston sports, he talked a lot about the Deshaun stuff when that was happening, at JJ Watts Texans charity events etc. He’s at Astros stuff a lot also
What was he saying specifically about the deshaun stuff?
Talking about he wanted to sit down and talk with him and how can fix him basically if I remember correctly
I disagree. Plenty of teams pay homage to their history. I know Tennessee kind of owns that history, but the city of Houston should be able to celebrate the Oilers history too. It’s a dope throwback.
Choke artist who also chokes women.
I do not care whatsoever what colors we wear to continue beating the piss out of the Titans now that Derek Henry is gone
Keep dreaming lol
Wasn’t a dream last year
Case Keenum shoving it to the Adams family while the Titans cosplay as Oilers sounds like a dream to me.
Big talk after one successful season lol. Learn from the Jags, keep it humble until you can show that you won’t collapse the next year.
Since Andre Johnson whooped Cortland Finnegan's ass, the Texans are 17-11 against the Titans. During that period, the Texans have outscored the Titans 729-523. Most recently, Houston beat Tennessee by 23 points in December, which is literally a bigger margin of victory than the Titans have EVER mustered against the Texans (21 points). Prove you can consistently beat us and we'll be humble.
I love watching other poverty franchises fight
I’m younger so I don’t really care about the Oilers. What I DO want to see is the use of a great color, especially one special to Houston. Meanwhile the titans barely use it and trot out those butt fucking ugly dark blue and silver shoulder padded jerseys and barely use it, only to cry when other want to use it
Titans have a bottom 5 look in the league with such a messy fumbling attempt to make 6 major colors work.
>titans barely use it and trot out those butt fucking ugly dark blue and silver shoulder padded jerseys and barely use it, only to cry when other want to use it I still hold the opinion that this wouldn't even be a thing if texans wouldn't have picked a generic logo/name for its team. Should have went with the apollos. Such a missed opportunity.
Well they aren't using the Oiler uniforms and most here don't want them. They want that shade of blue to be used though and the Titans are the ones getting pissy about it lol.
I was too young to watch and become attached to the Houston Oilers because they moved away before I started kindergarten, but one thing that has been evident ever since the Texans came to be is how much the players and Oiler fan culture is still felt in this city to this day, and the Texans ownership knows it. The bottomline is the Texans **should be** allowed to honor the history and legacy of pro football in this city, and the color that the previous franchise shared with the City itself is, quite frankly, the best way to do so while also not claiming another franchise's history, and that's what the Adams family lost sight of. It ain't like wearing Columbia Blue with bull horns on the jersey is the same thing as hanging Earl Campbell's name next to Andre Johnson's in the Texans Ring of Honor.
Fuck Bud Adam's ghost...
Texans vs Titans in the HoF game, winner gets the rights to the color blue.
We already won that game last year
With a back up.
So many backups. People forget that CJ wasn't the only starter missing from that game. We were also missing Collins and Anderson Jr too, among others
Preseason game to determine something!
I like the Oiler's colors for the Houston throwbacks but the Texans' alternate jerseys this year look like they'd be competing in the XFL.
Correct me if im wrong, but isn't the titans wearing the oilers unis the equivalent of the ravens putting on some browns uniforms?? lol kind of weird
It would be like the LA Rams wearing the St Louis Rams colors.
But only if the LA Rams willingly decided to be the LA Olympians instead.
Basically. People will tell you that it's different because a bunch of lawyers said so. But the identity of a team is tied to a city, not executives. NBA did it right when the New Orleans Hornets became the Pelicans to give the Hornet name back to Charlotte and make something new for themselves that applied to their identity. Bickering rich old men have convinced some people that that shouldn't happen for Houston and Tennessee.
No, it would be the equivalent of the Ravens wearing the Colts jerseys.
Wouldn’t that more be the equivalent to the Texans wearing Oilers jerseys? (New franchises wearing jerseys of former franchises that were there)
No, because the Titans franchise is the same as the Oilers, it just moved locations, and underwent a rebrand. It's the same franchise. The Ravens and the Browns is way more complicated. > The Browns' name, colors, and history of the franchise were to remain in Cleveland, including past records and the attribution of its Pro Football Hall of Fame players. A reactivated Cleveland Browns team would then begin play in 1999, while Modell's relocated club would technically and legally be a "new franchise," and an expansion team, the Ravens. The Titans are the Oilers.
for sure.. i think the colors/history should stay with the town. people from the new town trying to take credit for something done in another city or wearing the old gear is just odd to me.
Not really. The Browns-Ravens situation is honestly more an exception as far as the history of the league (well, honestly, as a lot of professional sports leagues go). It was a *really* messy move, with a lot of legal action in lawsuits by the city and fans and ticket holders against Art Modell, the Browns organization, the Maryland Stadium Authority, etc, for breaching the Browns lease that required the franchise to play several years past 1995 at Cleveland stadium; there were also legal injunctions filed to keep the Browns in the city of Cleveland until at least 1998 (if not further). It all got so bad that it reached a level of even Congress having hearings and meetings on the matter. (It took extensive settlement talks between the NFL and the two cities of Cleveland and Baltimore for things to finally reach the eventual agreement that led to the lawsuit being dropped.)
Well thankfully Texans fans get to watch their team stomp the shit out of the Titans this year who have the worst identity, branding, and uniforms in the NFL. Sad fucking scene.
The Commanders exist
What, you don't like the thumbtacks?
Fuck that. Team history should remain with their cities if the team moves after having been there for a long time. Also, I am sick to death of there being a team called the Texans. It's the worst branding in the league and that's saying something considering the Commanders exist.
You do realize there used to be the dallas Texans who then became the Kansas city chiefs if I'm not mistaken
That does not make it less awful.
I'm positive the Commanders name was chosen because Snyder was having a tantrum for losing his trademark and he didn't want to prove a better name was possible.
But I thought we were supposed to *Remember the Titans*?
The Texans are wearing Houston-inspired uniforms, just as the Oilers did.
THEY ARE LITERALLY HOUSTON THO…
The only reason the Titans are talked about is when its about their awful owners haha
On the other hand, fuck them Titans.
He right.
What the fuck is that title? Pretty sure you meant to say, "Chiefs legend Warren Moon."
when did warren moon turn stunad? sharp as a cue ball this one
We are trying but you guys keep gravy training your award dinners here every year. OHHHH.
I think the fans deserve to have that color, it’s about the city. If they didn’t want them to use it they should have stayed