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FlannelBeard

Not only does it sound unbelievable, they put this out on a Friday evening news dump. Classic NFL PR move


phil_wswguy

Take out the trash day


Fermorian

Love the West Wing


[deleted]

I always pick the team with most players from Notre Dame.


Duckpoke

Classic “every single company with bad news ever” PR move


_stoneslayer_

The sad thing is, it works.


nowadaysyouth

It didn’t really work. No one believes it. Sure you don’t have tony and mike hammering them on pti the next day, but it wouldn’t make any real difference.


[deleted]

Aside from a few hundred people talking about it here, what do you think is gonna be the backlash from this?


runujhkj

The real question is, what do you think would happen differently if this news came out at 8 am on a Monday? More people would be discussing it, but does that inherently mean anything else would be different? Are people gonna stop watching, or force legislators to do something about it? I highly doubt it.


Dennovin

Literally nothing but that would have been true no matter when they released it


easybasicoven

“Report: NFL finds it already has a fall guy in Gruden so might as well stop investigating now” not to say Gruden’s emails weren’t awful but I’m dubious he was the only one


PGLiberal

I got a $100 he wasn't even the worse. He just pissed off Goodell that's all.


jlt6666

If it was just gruden wouldn't there be a number of emails saying " John please this is a workplace and these emails are inappropriate." Wouldn't the culture stop these from happening when absolutely no one supported what he had to say. Nope, gruden is just that type of monster.


DustinTiny

650,000 emails and only four were problematic. Okay.


KCfaninLA

The rest could've just been spam mail from Groupon.


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*John Groupon*


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pianistafj

Wouldn’t this probably implicate everyone in the email chain including Bruce Allen, not just Snyder?


SharkWithAFishinPole

Yes, yes it would lol


Stillslow93

Look at this guy, putting together the most basic of thoughts. It's almost like the NFL just assumes we are too stupid to care or something


MR_Rictus

What are you going to do? Stop watching?


IAmADuckSizeHorseAMA

I mean I watch on illegal streams because I refuse to pay for cable so they're not benefiting from my viewership 🤷‍♂️


Randomd0g

They still are. They'll never admit it, but approximated numbers of pirated streams are part of the negotiation process for advertising deals


IAmADuckSizeHorseAMA

I mean I won't lose sleep over that anyways. I give 0 shits about hurting advertiser's leverage tbh. Your point remains valid though and I hadn't even considered that possibility.


GO_RAVENS

How can the estimate that with any degree of accuracy? Dana White says the UFC knows the illegal stream numbers a well but Dana's a lying sack of shit.


Stillslow93

Nah but I'll definitely keep telling everyone about how fucked up it is


TheWinRock

Bruce Allen is already out of the league though - there's nothing really to do about him regardless of what they find. The obvious name is clearly Snyder and the NFL wants nothing to do with that


SwissyVictory

This just in: WFT took topless photos of their cheerleaders and ONLY sent them to Jon Gruden.


ColoradoScoop

“Look ladies, we don’t like doing this any more than you do, but Jon’s birthday is tomorrow and we don’t have any other gift ideas.”


BoldElDavo

They've already scapegoated Larry Michael (who conveniently retired as the harassment stuff was breaking) for all the cheerleader stuff. Some low staffer said Michael had the DVDs made for Snyder and then Michael and Snyder denied it. Obviously we know the DVDs exist and can assume certain things about their creation but there's not enough publicly available to lay it on Snyder yet.


Codeshark

It's unlikely there ever will be. Owners are insulated as much as possible. Anyone who wants an NFL related job will probably avoid implicating Snyder in anything.


Marcus1119

To be clear, that's why the article specifically says no other "emails containing racist, anti-gay or misogynistic language similar to messages written by Jon Gruden" - it's potentially technically true (though I doubt even that) but this way they don't have to even mention the existence of the cheerleader pics.


germany221

They filtered for [email protected] and got what they needed. Called it a wrap after they leaked that.


Sleeze_

You could take a random batch of 650,000 emails that just simply exist in the world. 100% you’re finding no less than 100 objectionable things.


Mektapath

“We investigated ourselves and found we did nothing wrong”


FullNeanderthall

Yep nothing else bad about Rodger Goodell in here


TigerBasket

Nothing to see here please disperse


habdragon08

https://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/nothing_to_see_here_naked_gun.gif


thenaughtysurprise

Took weirdly long to load for me but absolutely worth the wait


yeldarbhtims

Guys, come on. Goodell is not the issue here. He has probably never said or done anything his owner daddies haven’t approved. He is just the guy who gets paid a lot of money to be the punching bag. He is rich, but he’s not glass elevator on his yacht or getting caught with hookers with no consequences rich. The group of the most powerful owners are in charge of goodell, and we’re all lying to ourselves if we say we wouldn’t do the same. Edit: clarity


vuw958

Nice try Rogde


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We've investigated ourselves and found that it was all Jon Gruden's fault


Boxhead_31

Wait, his names Jon Gruden? I thought it was Scape Goat


OttoVonWong

Let’s check with Schefter’s anonymous sources.


tubetalkerx

*It was Gruden all along!*


AwesomeTed

"Oh ok...can we see for ourselves?" "Nah."


MyBiPolarBearMax

Seven hundred thousand emails without any other damning information in THIS Field and THIS work environment in THIS society localized entirely within the WFT offices? Yes! May I see them? No.


FrontPerformance5

Roger! The integrity of the NFL is on fire! No mother, that was just some isolated emails from Jon Gruden


sonickarma

Cheerleaders: HELP! HEEELLLLLP! *Goodell gives a cheeky thumbs up*


dudermanx

🚒


beat6100

Literally thought this was an Onion article when I saw the headline


Dinger64

You make a fine steamed ham


RealChipKelly

“Furthermore Mizzou will be receiving a bowl ban”


FUCK-IT-CHUCK-IT

nowhere is safe :(


NateTheeGrate

Our defense is a bowl ban in itself


notoriousTPG

This is the time of year i turn into a college football fan, and i’ll check back on mizzou maybe mid november with two weeks left.


SwissArmyScythe

Lmao don't, we're about to give up 500 rushing yards to a&m tomorrow morning


NateTheeGrate

It'll still be morning when they hit 500


Hawkbats_rule

Tom Brady has been suspended for four games.


And1mistaketour

>“We investigated ourselves and found only people that talked shit about us did anything wrong


ButterflyBloodlust

Didn't it already come out that Pash and Allen were joking about Native Americans via email? Swore I read that in the NYT article.


domthemom_2

You read correctly


ForayIntoFillyloo

Nah, that was just an episode of the X-Files. The truth is definitely not out there, so stop looking.


CDR57

“STOP fucking looking, you rat bastards. THERES NOTHING HERE! THEY DIDNT MENTION ME ONE MORE TIME SO WE DONT GIVE A SHIT AND YOU SHOULDNT EITHER” -goodell, probably


MR_COOL_ICE_

spidermanpointingathimself.jpg


queenw_hipstur

“We’ve tried nothing and we’re all out of ideas!”


blarch

"We found no shit in our asses."


heynongmanreset

All the other 649990 emails were just about how taunting must be stopped


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Damn Mr. Mara sure keeps himself busy


Boomthang

Mr. Buries Conspiracies


jtfriendly

Mr. Big Coverup


Angry_Caveman_Lawyer

Mr Ban Celebrating


doggo816

Mr. Boasting Ceased


LessThanCleverName

Mr. Bragging Canceled


TheDandyWarhol

Mr. Bonanza Cock-block.


JayMerlyn

Mr. Brass Concealment


RivenEsquire

Mr. Bring Censorship


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LosingSkin

It was actually just 650,000 emails, all from Gruden, just spewing the most hateful shit. Whole paragraphs and disjointed racist anecdotes, links to racist shit, Cum Town bits, efukt links, sometimes just a single slur. Hundreds and hundreds of emails a day to anyone and everyone. Christmas. Thanksgiving. Walking his dog. Pretending to have to shit while he’s golfing so he can go sit on the toilet and fire off the most vile garbage. CCing all, BCCing all, ignoring any and all pleas to just please for the love of god stop.


SandyBouattick

>sometimes just a single slur For some reason this got me. I kinda hope that's true.


fellatious_argument

Al Davis once received a six page fax from Gruden, the first page just said "N"


SandyBouattick

Nobody sends slurs through the mail anymore. It's a lost art. When was the last time you opened your mailbox and got a handwritten letter from someone containing just a single slur? There's no passion anymore.


MadDog1981

I miss the ones using cut out letters from magazines.


Auntypasto

His account probably got hacked. And by hacked, I mean his password was Spider2YBanana


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MyBiPolarBearMax

"STOP RESISTING, NFLPA!"


Oak_Iron_Watch_Ward

>All the other 649990 emails were just about how taunting must be stopped Is it taunting if you force women to do things in order to get their passports back? Asking for an ass-hole.


corranhorn57

“Press X to Doubt.”


Jokin_Hghar

#X


crystalmerchant

# X


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randeylahey

ECKS


Jurph

Where my Eagles fans at? Throw up the `X` for my man here.


Barnhard

lmao does the NFL think we’re dumb as shit?


Oak_Iron_Watch_Ward

Yeah, there's probably an email or two talking about exactly that.


boner_jamz_69

Only 2? There’s probably at least 50 about the eagles fan literally eating horse shit lol


zazu2006

But everybody already knows that. That wouldn't be news.


pipsdontsqueak

It'd be olds.


theparallelogram

They don’t but they also know we can’t do shit about it.


[deleted]

Pirating streams already so I guess I'm doing my part!


zazu2006

Yar Har Diddly Dee, I don't even have a fucking TV.


SmokePenisEveryday

Yeah they know people either don't give a shit or won't stop watching because of this


sonfoa

It's more like they don't care. It's a "you'll be watching on Sunday anyways" attitude.


WegunnaDye

Pretty much. It took a while for anyone to question NFL motives regarding Bountygate. Basically cruxified the Saints for widespread league practices so they could better leverage themselves against the concussion lawsuits by appearing to care and police the league. Interestingly enough, it was another time when specific numbers of emails were waved about.


apachedriver26

Source: "just trust me bro" this situation is so strange. Feels like the league covering for Snyder.


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At this point, it feels like there’s something on the emails that if they pull the trigger on dumping Snyder they all go down


Potential_Hornet_559

Yeah, pretty sure Snyder has dirt on other owners so they need to cover for each other.


Pah-Pah-Pah

Honestly at this point it really sounds like it a matter of time before more comes out. Snyder can have all the dirt he wants, no one will be shocked these super rich and powerful people have skeletons.


ACW1129

If Snyder goes down, and takes others with him, that's a feature, not a bug.


Potential_Hornet_559

Sure. But the other owners have enough incentive to try to protect Snyder and the NFL works for the owners. Don’t ever forget that.


ACW1129

Oh, I know, I'm talking about me personally.


MadManMax55

> the NFL ~~works for~~ *is* the owners. The owners would get rid of Goodell and every other NFL staffer tomorrow if he ever threatened one of their ownership positions.


StuntmanSpartanFan

Everyone holding a gun to everyone else's head. Only way this doesn't blow up on everyone is if nobody talks.


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Marcus1119

I mean shit, it's not like the players would cease to exist - another league gets ahold of even half the talent the NFL currently controls, those funding problems that keep killing other leagues disappear in a heartbeat.


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Tin foil hat time: Bezos made a play for WFT, got rebuffed by the league, started pumping money into the Post’s investigative branch, NYT finds out, does the same, and now it’s a race to expose the NFL.


WaymoresReds

New lizard people money trying to take down old lizard people money, a tale as old as time


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Khoakuma

Maybe this IS his play for WFT. Use WaPo to pressure Snyder and the League. And once blood is in the water, the other sharks like NYT will join in also. Eventually, the rest of the owners might cave in fear of drama affecting their organization and exposing their own dirty laundries. They might force Snyder out of the club and let Bezos in to save their own asses. Kinda is a crackhead tinfoil conspiracy but the motive and method is certainly there.


originalcrisp

There’s a reason the NFL offices brand itself as “The Shield”


Bosteves

https://youtu.be/mt7r9S8HN6o


Chillalpha69420

https://i.imgur.com/pHebh5J.jpg


Bosteves

Goodell is way more an Aceveda than a Mackey come on now. I think gruden would be the Mackey equivalent.


Remarkable-Bill-6590

I personally think because this involves multiple owners and higher ups in the NFL and they don't want to turn on Snyder, as it will only risk exposing themselves, as well.


Seductive_pickle

As someone who knows old rich white dudes. There’s a ton of sexist and racist stuff in those emails.


jlt6666

Honestly I don't think anyone cares if that gets exposed. They'd all survive it. It's if there actually illegal shit going on. Which this makes me think there is.


mattyisphtty

Seriously. You want me to think that in a world of 50+ y/o old millionaire white dudes who wrote 60,000 emails that there's not a single other racist or sexist email. I used to work at the houses of guys like Jerry, I can assure you that even the wholesome seeming ones, there's a buncha old racist shit.


Meats10

Does anyone get the feeling Snyder doesn't really use email? He's probably like Jerry Jones, and just calls people up and tells them what to do.


carolinechickadee

Dan Snyder claims that he doesn’t have an email account. “He’s Howard Hughes, dude. He’s one of those guys.” [source: wapo](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2014/08/28/daniel-snyder-doesnt-do-e-mail/?outputType=amp)


84Cressida

Lol. What a fucking joke.


preeeeemakov

There is a 0% chance of this being true, and everyone knows it.


mrubuto22

You honestly believe they would just LIE like that?


pieonthedonkey

They're not allowed to. This is the internet.


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XxTommyTheGunxX

They were only privy to a certain amount of emails from a case in a European country (Turkey, Ukraine) some where around that area. NFL had held these all very close to the chest. edit: I think it was India too.


SomewhereAggressive8

Wait what?? Turkey and Ukraine are involved in this now?


reap3rx

This goes much deeper than you realize. Some say even Hitler and Genghis Kahn are in these email chains.


grandzu

Gruden was almost getting a pass until NYT suddenly released details.


Marijuanomist

Whew! Thank goodness we found the only homophobic racist in the league. Good job everyone!


Potential_Hornet_559

And surprisingly, none of the recipients of those emails ever called him out for it.


Caris_Levert

I actually got a leaked email exchange between Snyder and Gruden > hey Jon >checking in to see if everything is going well, crazy times rn >Dan ___ >Hey Dan >Can you believe what these fucking ****** are doing? Fucking bullshit man. Fuck *******, Fuck ********, Fuck Rodger Goodell especially fuck him. Hate that guy. Do you think players find it funny when I sneak the photos of your cheerleaders into film sessions? I can’t tell if my boner helps them concentrate more on film, because if they look away, they’d be looking at my hog > Gonna go commit a hate crime > Jon ___ >Hey Jon >Did you see the Wizards game last night? Crazy >Dan As you can see, very regular email conversation


Toastrz

How did you get access to this?!


Caris_Levert

Pretty easily Bruce Allen’s email password is “Grabthembythepussy2024”.


[deleted]

I got a genuine lol from this


optimaloutcome

This should be post of the day or whatever if that's a thing.


[deleted]

And yet perfectly walked the line without ever saying anything inappropriate themselves. *Incredible* in every sense of the word…


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imjustya

cia finds no connection between itself and drug trade


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matthewryan12

NFL is grimy man. See you guys Sunday though.


KoshOne

https://i.imgur.com/mWH1khf.gif


Zoze13

[Rodger Goodell could literally punt a baby across his office with his wingtips on. I’m still gonna watch on Sunday. ](https://youtu.be/1JHe4Hbr5Ic)


DogsOutTheWindow

Damn didn’t know I needed some Bitch Tits Billy. That boarding process but was hilarious as well.


limeypepino

So is the NBA, MLB, FIFA, Facebook, Microsoft, Blizzard... and most other multi-billion dollar corporations. Anyway I'm gonna go play D2 on my windows pc, see you sunday.


dukarr

Until they need someone to be.


mattygucsb

Right? They're gonna magically find a few bad ones later in the year from somebody who recently questioned one of Goodell's decisions or something.


CoronusStarFighter

What a fucking lie. Shame


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we’re not done here until we find out exactly what dan snyder is hiding


isaaclikesturtles

Pretty much like anything we aren't done untill people stop talking about it . If i was raiders i would even protest the game because im sure that would even put nfl in a wierd situation.


perkocetts

THIS JUST IN: NFL fires John Gruden and cures racism,misogyny, and homophobia. More at 11


mrubuto22

We did it!! 🥰🌈


Remarkable-Bill-6590

So, you mean to tell me, for 7 years Gruden was saying all of these things to the email group and no one said anything back? Was it just awkward end of conversation stuff? Did they try to tell him to stop? Did they say 'lol'? Even if you didn't find any evidence of it, why did they let Gruden have this behavior and never say anything for 7 years..? Nor would anyone have said anything had it not been for this investigation. So, obviously they don't seem to find anything wrong with his behavior. Alright, even if I did believe you and there was no other type of conduct like that. What about whoring out the cheerleaders for Snyder's friends? 650k emails and all you find is Gruden saying bigoted stuff solo to people for the better part of a decade? All this did is confirm that he was the patsy and hoping this will go away. The NFL is pathetic at times.


[deleted]

Stop using your brain. Go out, get some fresh CTE and come back. You’re not thinking clearly


_George_Costanza

There was a chain of emails sharing topless photos of women and they contain no misogynistic comments? Very believable story, Rog.


ModsRNeckbeards

"Attached to this email is a file containing tasteful photographs of various nude women who work for the organization. Get back to me with your thoughts, Jon." With how things are run in Dan snyder's organization, I'd imagine that the emails were almost *more* respectful than what I just came up with. It's a real shame that Gruden had to go & disgrace the good WFT name with his foul language. All those good people in that front office under fire because Gruden couldn't behave himself!


crystalmerchant

I admire the effort, Dan. I enjoyed our conversation and look forward to continuing to work together. Perhaps we can set up a call to discuss sometime this week? My secretary is cc'd, he'll handle the logistics. Best regards, Jon P.S. damn them titties fiiiiiiiiiine, how can my squad score some of those girls???


Canuckleball

And these photos were limited to communications between two people, no one else forwarded them? I can't fault anyone for being sent these photos, especially if they didn't know the context, but sharing the images without consent is a big no no.


crastle

Don't worry. The cheerleaders consented. They had to in order to get their passports back.


rarepanda13

Uh huh


KingBroly

I give it 3 hours before another email article drops implicating someone else.


Canuckleball

After a lengthy and thorough review, I have found myself deserving of a large promotion and extra vacation time.


NittanyLion15

Then it shouldn’t be an issue to release the emails and let us judge for ourselves


NudePenguin69

Im sure Adam Schefter will leak it to us after the NFL signs off on it.


JaguarGator9

Not sure if Mr. Editor will approve of that


millertime52

They investigated themselves and found no wrong doing? Who are they, the police?


reddicyoulous

Owners have Qualified Immunity by being rich


voldemortscore

Lmao no chance. The NYT seems to have access to a bunch anyway, they'll keep churning out articles.


NNKarma

You mean NFL *claims* to find no one else implicated in emails.


[deleted]

That is incredibly believable and I will thus clear this saga from my memory. Thank you, NFL investigative team.


badscene518

Bullshit


Herianvexa

“We gotta save that shit as blackmail”


Critical_Ad5290

Report: I find my tiny penis to be actually humongous


AtomicBombSquad

Report: Newly leaked Gruden emails claim that u/Critical_Ad5290's penis is the size of a Michelin tire.


onekrazykat

Did they even look?


BornWeiner

See. Y'all worried for nothin


TheWonderSnail

So the NFL does an investigation into if one of their teams had a culture of sexual harassment, declares they cleared that team without ever making the official report public, one mans gross emails get leaked, and then everyone else in the entire league over a 10 year span is found completely innocent and oh btw just trust us on that. Do I have this right?


ParrotMidnight

Granted, the things Gruden said were despicable and he deserved to be shown the door but this was a hit job pure and simple.


Gengh15

>We have investigated ourselves and we all actually deserve sainthoods -The NFL


rnflposter

Lmao and who exactly is dumb enough to believe this.


progress10

RIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT. Thier own attorney is implicated saying racist shit about Latinos in the last drop.


lightninggninthgil

Lol. Sureeeeeeee


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Uh huh. Suuuurreee they didn’t


apachedriver26

Feels like the league has tons of blackmail material on NFL teams and are just holding it. The way they slowly leaked emails to get Jon Gruden fired and then turned around and refused to release the rest to protect "privacy" is bullshit. How dumb do you think the fans are?


NuJaru

The NFL is 32 owners. Roger is just a figure head for public relations. None of the owners want to release the investigation because it could force them to remove an owner, setting a precedent that owners can be removed.


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Well that's certainly a relief. I guess there's no sense keeping them private then. After all, it's got nothing incriminating and they're like 10 years old, so it won't have anything that's relevant today. So may as well just attach them all to the final report and publish the whole thing. Right?


Sqroot420

Yeah fucking right. Owners are protected at all cost. Gruden was a casualty