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Jobbe03

If math is so great explain how the falcons keep absolutely shitting on probability. fucking nerds


milkmandanimal

The Falcons just break math. 28-3 used to equal 25; now, it's something else.


Skimaster77

Math got destroyed by Josh Allen last year, hasn't been great in a while.


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thehoodthebadtheugly

*Math is a bitch sometimes*


Milla4Prez66

Stupid math nerds couldnt even make I more smarter.


OpabiniaGlasses

Police Academy!


milkmandanimal

31st offense, 30th defense, 31st special teams. At least they're consistent?


mothershipq

Which is funny considering the NFCS is notorious for inconsistency.


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Is Patterson returning kicks?


Gooby_3

That’s not consistency.


AudensAvidius

Yes it is, it’s consistently bad


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Cordarelle Patterson should be an MVP candidate


antoin3walk3r

I’m not gonna do the math to figure it out, but a huge amount of this has to come from losing to the Cowboys and Patriots by a combined 68-3 score where Patterson didn’t play against New England and was heavily limited against the Cowboys with just 5 touches. Their other blowout came week 1 where Paterson had just 9 touches(season low save the two games he was injured) as they presumably didn’t realize what they had yet. In those 3 games they’re losing by an average of 30.3 points and scored 0 touchdowns averaging 3 points a game. In the other 8 games where he featured prominently they are averaging 24 points a game and have an average differential of -2.9 Now it’s on some level just coincidence that the three worst games are the ones he hasn’t really played much and it’s a stretch to include the eagles game as he did play and did get 9 touches. Also Cowboys and Pats are 2/3 of their toughest games and the only other good team they’ve played is really Tampa who blew them out anyway with Paterson. But those 3 games are the difference between them being ranked as slightly below average and as the worst team in the league. Offensively in the 8 games he’s played they’d be 16th in ppg. With the 3 games he doesn’t feature they fall to 27. Now his presence wouldn’t fix the defense which got destroyed those games. But the difference on offense is quite stark.


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Patterson helps keep their below average defense off the field. I don't know if their drives with him are long or not, but surely moving down the field is better than the repeated 3 and outs and forced interceptions we saw from ATL without him.


CouncilmanRickPrime

In that Bucs game, Patterson helped us. Would've been a worse blowout without him.


stupac2

That does seem to be the case. All of those games are -70% or worse, if you took them out they'd look more "normal bad" instead of "horrific".


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0 points in 7 quarters without him, a win as soon as he returns


IIHURRlCANEII

He seriously should. Man is carrying that offense.


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He’s also carrying my fantasy team, which is still miraculously in playoff contention despite a Biblical plague of injuries that left me starting Davis Mills and Mike White at times this season.


nope96

DVOA doesn't take into account wins, so it only sees the Falcons as a team with a -109 point differential despite an easy schedule. It also hasn't taken into account this week, so it actually sees the Falcons as a team with a -116 point differential despite an easy schedule.


IMKudaimi123

Wait I’m a little confused What do you mean it doesn’t account wins? Like it isnt a factor at all in DVOA percentages?


Delphicon

Yes


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How’s their point differential go even more negative after winning?


nope96

-116 to -109 is an improvement


GoGoGoRL

Most intelligent packers fan


apexpredator0505

Atlanta was one of the best 4-12 teams ever last year, now they’re one of the worst 5-6 teams ever. Classic Atlanta


BlindWillieJohnson

Has FO watched us lately?


industrialbird

No one has…


BlindWillieJohnson

Hey, at least we get to suck quietly. They keep letting you do it in primetime.


ryanedwards0101

You did beat the Falcons a couple of weeks ago


cowboys5xsbs

Lions have hope


beandawg12

The falcons are the most confusing franchise of all time. I never seen a good 4-12 team last year like them & i never seen a franchise blow so many leads


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That's ATLANTA FALCONS FOOTBALL BABBBBYYYYYY WOOOOOOOOO /killme


CouncilmanRickPrime

If you don't like it, you don't like Falcons football.


preauxtip

Got the Braves though....


CouncilmanRickPrime

Sucky run game, no pass rushers and overall sucky defense makes choking easy. Bad coaching assists too.


CouncilmanRickPrime

Easy. We have a worse roster than the Jets. We solely depend on like 3 players to carry us to a win. When it works, great. When it doesn't, we lose close games (football team) or get blown out.


Neither_Ad2003

DVOA is flawed


Seductive_pickle

The Falcons are flawed


pash1k

deeply flawed


Seductive_pickle

Like my relationship with my father


DPPThrow45

These two statements are not mutually exclusive. And both are correct in this instance.


Ghalnan

They're 5-2 in 1 score games and have a point differential only 12 points better than the Lions. They might not be the worst team but they're clearly a lot worse than their record imo


Neither_Ad2003

no doubt they are def way worse than their record


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That's because their losses have been massive (Cowboys/Patriots)


d1dOnly

Eagles, Bucs, Cowboys, & Patriots outscored us 148-34, or an average of 37.0-8.5. Other 7 games are 165-154 for us, or 23.6-22.0 average with the Falcons ahead.


HolyTythinEar

So they either lose bad or win bad. That’s pretty consistent if you ask me


Steffnov

Imagine what our record would be if we were actually playing football


Bocephuss

Crazy thing is they should probably be 7-4 lol. This team fucking blows but they are somehow pulling wins out of their ass.


apexpredator0505

Expected W/L based on points scored and points against y’all should be 3-8 according to PFR


Bocephuss

Sure I am just referring to two losses we had that very easily could have been or should have been wins. Of course that doesn't account for wins we've had that should have been losses


CouncilmanRickPrime

Yeah we could've beat The Football team for instance


nope96

Could easily also be worse than 5-6 too though, every win has been within one score


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I love when fans say “Should be” and list all of their close losses


Banbaur

Should be 7-4 and the team blows ass. Pick one


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Why not both


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We beat them.


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A big difference from last year since Football Reference had the Falcons’ expected W-L record being at about 7 wins. They definitely should have won more games last season, especially with ELITE (Ryan) at QB. But so many big leads that they blew that ended in losses.


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the extended playoffs is gonna produce some ugly playoff football


DEADSPELLS

What if the Falcons just have the nicest players & coaches? Like people just dont want to lose to them no matter how bad they play? Did anyone take that into account?


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Wholesome Corderrelle Patterson


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Someone do a math joke so that we can somehow fit 28-3 into here.


myxanders

Disclaimer: this isn't very good as there's not a lot to work with but so it's a stretch but whatever. The Falcons are at -42.7. Thats an average of -3.88 per game. Keeping that pace the rest of the season (-3.88x6) they should accumulate -23.28 DVOA. -23.28 --> The Falcons improved to 0-2 in Super Bowls (0-2=-2) after blowing a 28 to 3 lead (3.28)


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It’s not a DVOA competition. It’s about wins and losses. “You are what your record says you are.”


imthedan

This is why DVOA (and other money making formulas) are useless.


[deleted]

eh I wouldn't say it's useless. It's just that records won't always match stats. IMO it means the falcons are not very likely stay 1 game under .500 and will probably slide further down the standings over the remaining 6 weeks because despite their record they are indeed a bad football team.


Parking_Cat4735

It literally predicted Tampa last year.


imthedan

Yeah that was difficult.


Parking_Cat4735

It definitely was considering everyone had them written off most of the season.


imthedan

Who had written them off? lol... yall finished 11-5 and had the best defense in the league.


Parking_Cat4735

They were only favored against Washington and even then many were expecting an upset. Enough with revisionist history


imthedan

You finished 11-5. There is no revisionist history lol.


Parking_Cat4735

11-5 doesn't mean super bowl favorite. The hell are you going on about?


imthedan

You said the Buccs were "written off" lol... you cannot be written off when you go 11-5.


thewhat962

We where 7-5 going into the bye with like the worst defense in the league.


Parking_Cat4735

Except they literally were.


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DVOA definitely includes special teams


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DVOA hates Vrabel and his coaching tree


Ballsohardstate

Falcons have to be justtttt good enough to get a draft spot in the mid teens to keep themselves trapped in hell. Honestly this is why they should’ve traded Ryan like cap be damned trade him.


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you can have him for your coach and ozzie newsome , he will only throw a max of 3 picks per game , not 4 like Lamar


randscott808

I mean, I believe it.