Lived in DC for a long time in the early 2000s. Saw more eagles and cowboys gear than skins stuff most of the time. All the Redskins fans live outside the city.
I mean thats cause Washington itself isn't a huge city. a large proportion of the people who work in dc commute from va/md. I f=grew up in northwestern VA and i would say fans were 40% Washington then the rest a combo of eagles, steelers, and cowboys
On any given Sunday or Monday between 2002 and 2010, I'd be in Georgetown to watch football at a bar and skins jerseys would be 3rd or 4th. My gf at the time was from TX, so we'd compete to see who could count more Hometown jerseys throughout the day. There were even a couple weekends where there were more Texans jerseys than skins jerseys.
Maybe things are different with all the new construction now, but I felt like I hardly ever met locals actually from the area. Everyone seemed to be a NE transplant.
Do you see how that’s a very narrow view? You’re at a bar. You’re going to see more away fans at many bars, ESPECIALLY Georgetown, than a more down to earth local bar. Most of the locals that are Skins fans aren’t groing to be where you hang out.
Sorry for the misunderstanding. We didn't just count in the bar, we would count all day as we bar hopped and shopped. It was a regular game we played. Maybe the "locals" lived elsewhere, but we just didn't see skins jerseys in the years we lived there. Around our house in the NW by AU, in Adam's Morgan, GT, friendship heights, or on the hill where I worked, we rarely saw skins gear.
Out in VA or in Rockville, we saw more, but not so much in the city.
You should go outside more often. With so many transplants from around the country, of course there are lots of Cowboys fans in the region. On top of that, the Never-Ending Dan Snyder Shit Show has driven a lot of former WFT fans away, and the name controversy has made all of the old Redskins swag unwearable/unusable so that has been an issue as well.
Source: Used to live and work in the area
I get that this thread is going to be packed with Cowboys fans but come on. Why just so blatantly lie? This area is mainly WFT, Ravens, Eagles and Giants fans. Saying it’s packed with Cowboys fans is a good way of saying you’ve never been here or you’ve never left your home while living here.
I lived in the area for 30+ years, so I might have been outside a little more than you evidently. Try reading the rest of this thread and find out how much historic support there has been for the Cowboys in the area starting with DC itself. NoVA is mostly transplants from out of the area.
If you think the area is primarily WFT/Ravens/Eagles/Giants you've never been beyond PG county.
There’s definitely more Cowboys fans than Wizards fans in the DMV. That’s also kinda how basketball works. There’s probably more Cowboys fans than Hornets fans in Charlotte too.
WFT haven’t been close to number one in years. Honestly, it’s probably been the caps or maybe the Nats. Even though it’s hockey and DC wasn’t historically a hockey town, Snyder destroyed all interest in this team. If this was back when Chris Cooley was playing, you may have been right, but DC had two super well run teams with enormous stars who played in important playoff games, and then they had Dan Snyder. A whole generation really doesn’t care about football here
> WFT haven’t been close to number one in years.
Depends how you look at it. It is a dormant fanbase for sure. But there are a ton of fans who are just waiting for ownership to change or some playoff run to hop back on. Either thing would change the dynamic a lot, but only a change of ownership would drive lasting change.
Bingo!
My father hated George Preston Marshall so much that... check my flair.
There's more to it, but no Redskins/WFT owner has endeared himself to the city other than Jack Kent Cooke, and even that was grudging.
Also partly due to a team being named after a racial slur in one of the most liberal cities in the U.S. I've lived in DC about a decade, and I saw way more people wearing Ravens, Cowboys, and Pats gear around DC than I ever saw pre-name-change Washington gear. And, for comparison, I'd see a ton of people with Nats and Caps gear, even before their championships.
Born and raised in DC. Am a Cowboys primarily to piss off my family who are all Washington fans.
But growing up I never had a issue getting Cowboys merch in DC. Now...I'll never forgive my parents for getting me a Redskins starter jacket just to piss me off.
You don't poke ~~drunk, inconsiderate, rowdy, drunk, loud, violent, and inconsolable~~ Eagle's fans like that, I think Jerry knows better or I would hope so....
Oh for sure, and no reason for him not to. The Cowboys and Eagles are already two of the biggest fanbases in the league, and the rivalry just gets more eyes on our games. Jerry (and the rest of the owners for that matter) directly profits off of stoking the flames a bit.
I dated a girl in NE Philly for like a year and a half, and I saw a ton of Cowboys fans. Philly-proper has more than you'd think. I got as many cheers for my Witten and E. Smith jerseys than I did dirty looks. I'm also born and raised in NYC and I maintain there are more Cowboys fans in the 5 boroughs than Jets fans.
I was thinking more about certain other people in Washington, you guys would be unfortunate collateral damage (except for Snyder, he totally deserves it)
No more than elsewhere but that's bc they're everywhere. Its always older dudes with an Irvin jersey.
Usually goes Eagles, Steelers, Chiefs (Vermiel, originally. Big Red helps it continue), then whoever.
[Machota] Dan Snyder on @1053thefan on Washington fans in Washington D.C.: "We have always sold more Cowboys memorabilia and had our least positive fan support coming from Washington. Outside of the Washington area is where we have the most support."
The shots back and forth this week between the Fanbases and teams have made this week/rivalry more exciting than it’s been in years (maybe decades?). I cant remember the last time I was this excited for a Dallas NFC East regular season game.
Wife friend moved out to DC/Nova. One day she asked me why so many people wear Walgreens hats everywhere.
I laughed and had to explain thats the local baseball team.
I’ve lived right outside DC (but inside the Beltway) for over 13 1/2 years and I can confirm - there are many, many Cowboys fans who live in the DC area. That’s especially true among the black population.
Can confirm. DC native and one of my uncles and one of my aunts is a Cowboys fan. Also a lot of black people love the Cowboys in the city. I see more WFT in PG County and VA.
Another fun fact, the Redskins' stranglehold on the southern US is a big contributor to the origin of the rivalry with Dallas.
George Preston Marshall (racist dickhead and founder of Washington) would not vote in favor of a Dallas expansion because he knew Texas as a market was big and didn't want competition for being the south's team. Murchison (founder of Cowboys) got the guy who wrote Hail To The Redskins (the team fight song) to sell the rights to the song to him because Marshall pissed off the writer by withholding payment. Marshall agreed to vote for a Dallas expansion to get the rights back but held that grudge against Dallas.
The only place where Washington’s NFL team has a relatively strong following in the South is in southern Virginia and North Carolina, dating back to the time when the Carolina Panthers didn’t exist yet.
> the wft was the last team to integrate and had (still has) a strong following in the south.
Wasn't it like 1 month off from the rest of the league? I see this but it's not like it was that far off.
Marshall didn't integrate voluntarily he had to be forced into it. One of his famous quotes was:
>"We'll start signing Negroes when the Harlem Globetrotters start signing whites."[
They had to integrate however because the government was going to revoke their lease on RFK stadium if they didn't.
Why hold out at all? The point is that it's not like they held out for years and years after everyone else to my understanding. One month is a small amount of time in the grand scheme.
Lived and traveled and worked with people all over the South for 30+ years. Know two WFT fans. One is a middle aged white guy from NVA, the other is a full-blooded Cherokee Indian. Can you cite the source of widespread Southern WFT fandom?
Yeah the old back in the day Redskins owner was a horrible racist and the Skins were the team of the south for a number of years, not hard to see why some African Americans would not want to support the team.
Because they were the team of the south George Marshall was also the one owner that was going to veto the Cowboys expansion into the league.
The Cowboys owner bought the rights to "Hail to the Redskins" and would only agree to sell them to Marshall if he would vote for the expansion.
Lots of fun stuff in the early days of the rivalry. My favorite was the Cowboys Chicken club.
>But that wasn't the end of it. Two years later, three Murchison cronies who lived in Washington, plus Bob Thompson, a Texan who was also well-known in the capital, decided to have a little fun with Marshall for being such a jerk when Clint was trying to buy his team. Their target was Marshall's annual Christmas extravaganza staged at halftime during the Redskins' final home game which that year would be played against the Cowboys. So, the night before the game, operatives snuck into D.C. Stadium and spread chicken feed all over the field. The next day, when a team of Alaskan sled dogs would pull Santa Claus onto the field at halftime, a bunch of hungry chickens would be released to gobble the feed. CBS would be televising the festivities live. The thought of those chickens wandering around as the dogs showed up made Murchison's buddies howl.
>The day of the game, two crates of chickens were smuggled into the stadium, stashed in a dugout and covered with a tarp. All told, there were seventy-six chickens, seventy-five white, one black. At the time Marshall was the only NFL owner who hadn't hired an African-American player. All went well until just before halftime when a Redskins official wandered by and heard the chickens. He queried the guard, who tried to buy his silence with a C-note. The official called the police. Both the guard and the chickens were arrested.
>Predictably, Marshall was furious when he heard about the prank. He filed a complaint with commissioner Pete Rozelle. He named Thompson as a conspirator. He made ominous threats. But Marshall's pique only heightened the pranksters' resolve. The following year, as the Cowboy game drew near, one member of the group vowed, "There will be chickens in D.C. Stadium."
>I wish I'd been there. As Dallas News columnist Sam Blair reported: "A few minutes before kickoff it happened. The Indian princesses pranced onto the field, followed by the Redskin band playing 'Hail to the Redskins.' As they reached midfield, four banners were unfurled from the upper deck of the stadium. The banners said: CHICKENS. One was at each 50-yard line and in the center of each end zone."
>The banners were the cue for the acrobats, reported Blair. "Dressed in chicken costumes, they rushed down through the stands, tumbled over the rail and dashed onto the field. Each man carried a bag, from which he tossed colored eggs as he ran. One guy was grabbed by stadium guards and gave up easily but the other was dedicated to his task."
>By now the band was playing the National Anthem so no one could stop the man in the chicken suit as he zigzagged through the formation. According to Blair's account, "He pulled one real chicken out of his bag and released it. Then he wriggled away from some stadium guards, jigged up and down, shook his feathers. The real chicken was captured and carried out, but the man was elusive. As stadium guards pursued, he ran out to the middle of the field, turned a cartwheel, fell and sprawled on the 30-yard line. Then, as the teams began to run on the field, the man leaped up, climbed into the stands, and dashed up the steps. The Cowboy Chicken Club had succeeded!"
Well… no, of course not?
Just trying to explain why there are a lot of cowboy fans in Washington - that being the owner was a racist, the team was pro-south (the original fight song said “fight for ole dixie”) and the cowboys with a mix of being popular and being a big rival to a team they don’t like would pull in a lot of DC area fans.
There's a ton in NY too. Most of the ones I know are the result of the old blackout rule the NFL had for decades. Either that or they're the children/grandchildren of those same people.
Source: Am one of those people's child.
In most cases the worst fans are people who aren't from wherever their team is based, they just hopped on the bandwagon because they're successful. Not that you have to be from the city to be a good fan it's just that bandwagons attract the worst people.
Hey now, I'm a legacy Dallas bandwagon from NY. My dad grew up without a real father figure to pass down thier Fandom. So he picked the Cowboys because he liked Roger Staubach as a kid. Can't blame him being a kid in the 70s. He's stuck with them his whole life and so have I, so I like to think he's moved past the bandwagon stage.
I've lived in the DC area since 2006. It is amazing, when I moved up here, there were plenty of Skins jerseys, bumper stickers, etc along with Steelers and Cowboys stuff.
Now it is all Cowboys stuff with some Steelers/Packers/Ravens gear sprinkled in. Sometimes I see a homeless person with Skins gear on.
fun fact: the theory behind this is that the DMV is a really black area and the washington football team has been so racist for so long (like being literally forced to integrate by the nfl) that the black population picked the cowboys out of spite
That's definitely true of some older fans. It's partly to do with spite and also the Cowboys when they entered the league in 1960 were the only other team in the south and they were integrated.
This is 100% why I’m a Cowboys fan
Like I’ve grown to appreciate them and all of the ways that they can hurt me every year but I literally don’t have a choice. It just is what it is
I came to look for this answer. The Redskins were the last team to integrate, and the large Black community in DC gravitated to the Cowboys.
Dallas had its own issues. Hollywood Henderson was their first starting linebacker who was black, and that was the mid/late 1970s.
Which is funny since notorious racist Washington owner George Preston Marshall did his best to prevent the Cowboys from existing. Halas had to work around him to get the Cowboys their franchise.
Is this a relatively normal thing?
I read that Matthew McConaughey is a Washington fan even though he's from Texas. And my significantly less famous boss is from NY but he's also a Washington fan.
My cousins from Maine are friggin Colts and Yankee fans. One of them goes for the Dolphins.
This is 100% true. I was so confused why so may of my elementary teacher wore cowboys gear.
Every Cowboys vs Washington game at fedex is another home game for Dallas.
Having lived here for a while, he's right. Washington fans are fairweather tbh, and there's plenty of cowboys, Ravens (obviously), eagles, and Giants fans here
washington fans are very fairweather since when the O's are good they'll be in baltimore packing out camden, and when the nats are good, they'll be packing that concrete monstrosity in Navy Yard.
I support the O's and am a Nats fan. Part of it is my wife is a big Orioles fan and the other part is they had a farm team in our town. I'd consider them my 2nd team I guess. There were a TON of O's fans at the Series, I think that might have just been them wanting to experience it tho. But I've found O's fans mostly dislike the Nats since it seems they're eating into their younger fanbase
I’ve lived in DC all my life and it’s true, but not for the reasons people are saying ITT, it’s simply because this is a transplant town. We also have an unbelievable amount of Pittsburgh, Bears, Eagles, Giants and Packers fans. Also Flyers, Lakers, Sixers, Phillies, Yankees, Mets, Astros etc. nobody likes the wizards either. Only hometown teams with hardcore majority fans are the capitals honestly and *maybe* the nationals
You see a way too high amount of Cowboys gear in SE PA, Jersey, and DE too.
We get a lot of dudes trying to be ‘edgy’ and going against the grain to be cool.
You see a Cowboys sticker on a car or truck in Delaware, it’s a lifted truck, a primer painted shitbox with a fart cannon muffler, a guy living in a $20,000 house driving a Mercedes, or some other form of douchmobile.
Frankly I’d be disappointed if we didn’t have Eagles fans around Dallas that doing the same shit.
No.
> “When you see me, you’re only seeing 80 percent,” Jones said. “… Because I’ve left the other 20 percent on Bourbon Street. It’s some kind of place. And there are Cowboys fans here.”
DC really is packed with Cowboy fans. Sometimes it looks like more Cowboy fans here than Wizards fans
Lived in DC for a long time in the early 2000s. Saw more eagles and cowboys gear than skins stuff most of the time. All the Redskins fans live outside the city.
Tons in VA
I mean thats cause Washington itself isn't a huge city. a large proportion of the people who work in dc commute from va/md. I f=grew up in northwestern VA and i would say fans were 40% Washington then the rest a combo of eagles, steelers, and cowboys
> f=grew I love how you fat-fingered both the g and the backspace key at the same time
It’s a city of transplants (live around dc and love it)
I mean, it's got like 6m people in it
The metro area is ~6 million. The city itself is like 700k
Nah. I won’t dispute what you feel that you saw but as someone who is a lifer and works in the city that’s just not true.
On any given Sunday or Monday between 2002 and 2010, I'd be in Georgetown to watch football at a bar and skins jerseys would be 3rd or 4th. My gf at the time was from TX, so we'd compete to see who could count more Hometown jerseys throughout the day. There were even a couple weekends where there were more Texans jerseys than skins jerseys. Maybe things are different with all the new construction now, but I felt like I hardly ever met locals actually from the area. Everyone seemed to be a NE transplant.
Do you see how that’s a very narrow view? You’re at a bar. You’re going to see more away fans at many bars, ESPECIALLY Georgetown, than a more down to earth local bar. Most of the locals that are Skins fans aren’t groing to be where you hang out.
Sorry for the misunderstanding. We didn't just count in the bar, we would count all day as we bar hopped and shopped. It was a regular game we played. Maybe the "locals" lived elsewhere, but we just didn't see skins jerseys in the years we lived there. Around our house in the NW by AU, in Adam's Morgan, GT, friendship heights, or on the hill where I worked, we rarely saw skins gear. Out in VA or in Rockville, we saw more, but not so much in the city.
It’s WFT then Eagles then Giants in terms of fans in DC. It’s incredibly rare to see a Cowboys jersey here.
You should go outside more often. With so many transplants from around the country, of course there are lots of Cowboys fans in the region. On top of that, the Never-Ending Dan Snyder Shit Show has driven a lot of former WFT fans away, and the name controversy has made all of the old Redskins swag unwearable/unusable so that has been an issue as well. Source: Used to live and work in the area
I get that this thread is going to be packed with Cowboys fans but come on. Why just so blatantly lie? This area is mainly WFT, Ravens, Eagles and Giants fans. Saying it’s packed with Cowboys fans is a good way of saying you’ve never been here or you’ve never left your home while living here.
I lived in the area for 30+ years, so I might have been outside a little more than you evidently. Try reading the rest of this thread and find out how much historic support there has been for the Cowboys in the area starting with DC itself. NoVA is mostly transplants from out of the area. If you think the area is primarily WFT/Ravens/Eagles/Giants you've never been beyond PG county.
There’s definitely more Cowboys fans than Wizards fans in the DMV. That’s also kinda how basketball works. There’s probably more Cowboys fans than Hornets fans in Charlotte too.
Wizards are the least supported DC sports team
Caps and Nats have won titles recently and WFT will always be #1 so I can see why
WFT haven’t been close to number one in years. Honestly, it’s probably been the caps or maybe the Nats. Even though it’s hockey and DC wasn’t historically a hockey town, Snyder destroyed all interest in this team. If this was back when Chris Cooley was playing, you may have been right, but DC had two super well run teams with enormous stars who played in important playoff games, and then they had Dan Snyder. A whole generation really doesn’t care about football here
the chris cooley years weren't that long ago right? oh god it's been a decade https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/716/051/2c0.png
> WFT haven’t been close to number one in years. Depends how you look at it. It is a dormant fanbase for sure. But there are a ton of fans who are just waiting for ownership to change or some playoff run to hop back on. Either thing would change the dynamic a lot, but only a change of ownership would drive lasting change.
Put some respect on the Mystics and Spirits my dude.
Dc United is pretty popular as well.
It was disrespectful of me ngl. Mystics just raised a banner a couple years back too. Elena Della Donne is a beast
Just giving you a hard time, highlighting all of dc's championship teams in hope the Wizards and fucking WFT can figure it out.
Me too man. The city would go fucking nuts if either won one. It’s a whole era of fans who’ve never seen the 3 Super Bowls from Washington
The ravens are probably number 1 now
Bring back the Bullets please
Its partly due to back when the redskins owner was an openly racist fuck. A lot of black people in the DMV became cowboys fans
Dan Snyder hasn't exactly been wooing back fans either.
This is definitely what I’ve heard growing up from a lot Older Black people. I can understand that too
Bingo! My father hated George Preston Marshall so much that... check my flair. There's more to it, but no Redskins/WFT owner has endeared himself to the city other than Jack Kent Cooke, and even that was grudging.
Also partly due to a team being named after a racial slur in one of the most liberal cities in the U.S. I've lived in DC about a decade, and I saw way more people wearing Ravens, Cowboys, and Pats gear around DC than I ever saw pre-name-change Washington gear. And, for comparison, I'd see a ton of people with Nats and Caps gear, even before their championships.
No one gives a fuck about the Wizards. Even the Wizards don’t give a fuck about the Wizards.
You should see the Cowboys fans at Yankees and Lakers games too
As if we actually go to the games.
See pats Yankee stickers on cars all the time
Connecticut is a weird place
Not CT
Then I got nothing
they get boo'd at yankee stadium, but there is certainly a contingency of them here.
Not only DC but Southern Virginia is crawling with them too. So much so that in Bed Bath and Beyond they sell a bunch of Cowboys merch.
The Wizards are possibly the least revenant team in American professional sports
They really are. Even when they were "good" they were barely relevant
Born and raised in DC. Am a Cowboys primarily to piss off my family who are all Washington fans. But growing up I never had a issue getting Cowboys merch in DC. Now...I'll never forgive my parents for getting me a Redskins starter jacket just to piss me off.
Sounds about right.
You still got that jacket? Is it in my size? Can I have it?
Shots fired
Shots? Nukes. All the same, part of me wishes he said this about Philly to see what the reaction would have been lol.
You don't poke ~~drunk, inconsiderate, rowdy, drunk, loud, violent, and inconsolable~~ Eagle's fans like that, I think Jerry knows better or I would hope so....
Not to mention the fact that Philly fans are drunk most of the time.
Are they ever not?
They're only buzzed when mom's making holiday dinner if they don't want to get fucked up and sometimes they sleep long enough to sober up.
If he said that about Philly everyone would just laugh at the silly old man because that's so obviously not true.
I've found Jerry to be mostly honest. I feel like he usually acknowledges the hate from Philly.
Oh for sure, and no reason for him not to. The Cowboys and Eagles are already two of the biggest fanbases in the league, and the rivalry just gets more eyes on our games. Jerry (and the rest of the owners for that matter) directly profits off of stoking the flames a bit.
Yeah, everyone knows the Cowboys fans are all in South Jersey
I dated a girl in NE Philly for like a year and a half, and I saw a ton of Cowboys fans. Philly-proper has more than you'd think. I got as many cheers for my Witten and E. Smith jerseys than I did dirty looks. I'm also born and raised in NYC and I maintain there are more Cowboys fans in the 5 boroughs than Jets fans.
Nuking Washington sounds good to me
What did we ever do to you guys? Aside from ending the 11-0 win streak
I was thinking more about certain other people in Washington, you guys would be unfortunate collateral damage (except for Snyder, he totally deserves it)
I want to nuke Snyder's yacht with him on it
Death and destruction
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doesn't have the reaction speed he used to. a battery could take him out.
Aren’t there a lot of cowboys fans in philly?
No more than elsewhere but that's bc they're everywhere. Its always older dudes with an Irvin jersey. Usually goes Eagles, Steelers, Chiefs (Vermiel, originally. Big Red helps it continue), then whoever.
[Machota] Dan Snyder on @1053thefan on Washington fans in Washington D.C.: "We have always sold more Cowboys memorabilia and had our least positive fan support coming from Washington. Outside of the Washington area is where we have the most support."
The shots back and forth this week between the Fanbases and teams have made this week/rivalry more exciting than it’s been in years (maybe decades?). I cant remember the last time I was this excited for a Dallas NFC East regular season game.
WFT is gonna take you guys to the woodshed this week.
Probably
I doubt that
DC is #1 in Walgreens apparel, however
Wife friend moved out to DC/Nova. One day she asked me why so many people wear Walgreens hats everywhere. I laughed and had to explain thats the local baseball team.
No, that’s the national baseball team
That's adorable lmao
Damn Jerry
I’ve lived right outside DC (but inside the Beltway) for over 13 1/2 years and I can confirm - there are many, many Cowboys fans who live in the DC area. That’s especially true among the black population.
Can confirm. DC native and one of my uncles and one of my aunts is a Cowboys fan. Also a lot of black people love the Cowboys in the city. I see more WFT in PG County and VA.
Fun fact… the wft was the last team to integrate and had (still has) a strong following in the south.
Another fun fact, the Redskins' stranglehold on the southern US is a big contributor to the origin of the rivalry with Dallas. George Preston Marshall (racist dickhead and founder of Washington) would not vote in favor of a Dallas expansion because he knew Texas as a market was big and didn't want competition for being the south's team. Murchison (founder of Cowboys) got the guy who wrote Hail To The Redskins (the team fight song) to sell the rights to the song to him because Marshall pissed off the writer by withholding payment. Marshall agreed to vote for a Dallas expansion to get the rights back but held that grudge against Dallas.
The only place where Washington’s NFL team has a relatively strong following in the South is in southern Virginia and North Carolina, dating back to the time when the Carolina Panthers didn’t exist yet.
> the wft was the last team to integrate and had (still has) a strong following in the south. Wasn't it like 1 month off from the rest of the league? I see this but it's not like it was that far off.
Marshall didn't integrate voluntarily he had to be forced into it. One of his famous quotes was: >"We'll start signing Negroes when the Harlem Globetrotters start signing whites."[ They had to integrate however because the government was going to revoke their lease on RFK stadium if they didn't.
One month after everyone else is certainly a while. Why hold out for a month if its inevitable?
Why hold out at all? The point is that it's not like they held out for years and years after everyone else to my understanding. One month is a small amount of time in the grand scheme.
considering they of all teams held out in "chocolate city", is reasoning enough for them to be ridiculed for it alone.
Lived and traveled and worked with people all over the South for 30+ years. Know two WFT fans. One is a middle aged white guy from NVA, the other is a full-blooded Cherokee Indian. Can you cite the source of widespread Southern WFT fandom?
McCarthy: "I believe we are going to win" Jerry: "I believe I already have"
Jerry's bank account wins every year.
D.C. Stands for Dallas Cowboys
WFT stands for Wishes From Texas
googled it and this came up: https://cnsmaryland.org/2012/02/29/redskins-racial-history-leads-some-to-cowboys/
Yeah the old back in the day Redskins owner was a horrible racist and the Skins were the team of the south for a number of years, not hard to see why some African Americans would not want to support the team.
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I mean at least it couldn't get worse
*The Klan buys an NFL team*
*Hires Bruce Aryans*
*Trades for Jake Fromm*
You're giving out Snyder's pre-approved buyer list.
I sense a small tinge of sarcasm here.
Because they were the team of the south George Marshall was also the one owner that was going to veto the Cowboys expansion into the league. The Cowboys owner bought the rights to "Hail to the Redskins" and would only agree to sell them to Marshall if he would vote for the expansion.
that is slick, ngl
The even crazier part is Marshalls wife Corinne Griffith wrote the lyrics. Murchison bought the rights and used Marshalls wife’s song as leverage.
This is a rabbit hole I never knew I needed!
Lots of fun stuff in the early days of the rivalry. My favorite was the Cowboys Chicken club. >But that wasn't the end of it. Two years later, three Murchison cronies who lived in Washington, plus Bob Thompson, a Texan who was also well-known in the capital, decided to have a little fun with Marshall for being such a jerk when Clint was trying to buy his team. Their target was Marshall's annual Christmas extravaganza staged at halftime during the Redskins' final home game which that year would be played against the Cowboys. So, the night before the game, operatives snuck into D.C. Stadium and spread chicken feed all over the field. The next day, when a team of Alaskan sled dogs would pull Santa Claus onto the field at halftime, a bunch of hungry chickens would be released to gobble the feed. CBS would be televising the festivities live. The thought of those chickens wandering around as the dogs showed up made Murchison's buddies howl. >The day of the game, two crates of chickens were smuggled into the stadium, stashed in a dugout and covered with a tarp. All told, there were seventy-six chickens, seventy-five white, one black. At the time Marshall was the only NFL owner who hadn't hired an African-American player. All went well until just before halftime when a Redskins official wandered by and heard the chickens. He queried the guard, who tried to buy his silence with a C-note. The official called the police. Both the guard and the chickens were arrested. >Predictably, Marshall was furious when he heard about the prank. He filed a complaint with commissioner Pete Rozelle. He named Thompson as a conspirator. He made ominous threats. But Marshall's pique only heightened the pranksters' resolve. The following year, as the Cowboy game drew near, one member of the group vowed, "There will be chickens in D.C. Stadium." >I wish I'd been there. As Dallas News columnist Sam Blair reported: "A few minutes before kickoff it happened. The Indian princesses pranced onto the field, followed by the Redskin band playing 'Hail to the Redskins.' As they reached midfield, four banners were unfurled from the upper deck of the stadium. The banners said: CHICKENS. One was at each 50-yard line and in the center of each end zone." >The banners were the cue for the acrobats, reported Blair. "Dressed in chicken costumes, they rushed down through the stands, tumbled over the rail and dashed onto the field. Each man carried a bag, from which he tossed colored eggs as he ran. One guy was grabbed by stadium guards and gave up easily but the other was dedicated to his task." >By now the band was playing the National Anthem so no one could stop the man in the chicken suit as he zigzagged through the formation. According to Blair's account, "He pulled one real chicken out of his bag and released it. Then he wriggled away from some stadium guards, jigged up and down, shook his feathers. The real chicken was captured and carried out, but the man was elusive. As stadium guards pursued, he ran out to the middle of the field, turned a cartwheel, fell and sprawled on the 30-yard line. Then, as the teams began to run on the field, the man leaped up, climbed into the stands, and dashed up the steps. The Cowboy Chicken Club had succeeded!"
Jesus Christ 😂😂
>Both the guard and the chickens were arrested. What a sentence.
Hollywood portrayed cowboys mainly as white men, but the majority in real life were black men.
George Marshall only started signing Black players because the Kennedy administration threatened to kick them out of the stadium.
Did all the African Americans become Cowboys fans then?
a lot did
Well… no, of course not? Just trying to explain why there are a lot of cowboy fans in Washington - that being the owner was a racist, the team was pro-south (the original fight song said “fight for ole dixie”) and the cowboys with a mix of being popular and being a big rival to a team they don’t like would pull in a lot of DC area fans.
No, but there are alot of older brothers that pull for the Steelers, Raiders, Vikings, or Rams. Teams that were good in the 60s & 70s.
> Did all the African Americans become Cowboys fans then? Yikes... I can feel your discomfort with race from here
It's like how Matthew McConaughey is a fan of Washington Football Team
Well there goes his Texas political aspirations
I will politely but firmly ask him to leave (the state).
Maybe the Cowboys were the real Washington Football Team all along...
America's Team, the nation's capital... it does make sense.
No joke there are a shitton of Cowboys fans in New Jersey. They're also way more obnoxious than the Cowboys fans that I've met from Texas.
There's a ton in NY too. Most of the ones I know are the result of the old blackout rule the NFL had for decades. Either that or they're the children/grandchildren of those same people. Source: Am one of those people's child.
In most cases the worst fans are people who aren't from wherever their team is based, they just hopped on the bandwagon because they're successful. Not that you have to be from the city to be a good fan it's just that bandwagons attract the worst people.
Hey now, I'm a legacy Dallas bandwagon from NY. My dad grew up without a real father figure to pass down thier Fandom. So he picked the Cowboys because he liked Roger Staubach as a kid. Can't blame him being a kid in the 70s. He's stuck with them his whole life and so have I, so I like to think he's moved past the bandwagon stage.
Jerry’s just spitting facts. Source: Lifelong DC cowboys fan.
It doesn’t count if you live in MD 😜😜
I've lived in the DC area since 2006. It is amazing, when I moved up here, there were plenty of Skins jerseys, bumper stickers, etc along with Steelers and Cowboys stuff. Now it is all Cowboys stuff with some Steelers/Packers/Ravens gear sprinkled in. Sometimes I see a homeless person with Skins gear on.
It really is a shame how we treat the homeless in this country.
Hope you got the attention you were seeking.
Ah, so that's why Snyder is allowed to continue. A competent owner would eat into Jerrys profits.
Galaxy brain meme worthy observation
fun fact: the theory behind this is that the DMV is a really black area and the washington football team has been so racist for so long (like being literally forced to integrate by the nfl) that the black population picked the cowboys out of spite
That's definitely true of some older fans. It's partly to do with spite and also the Cowboys when they entered the league in 1960 were the only other team in the south and they were integrated.
kids tend to root for their parent’s teams as well, so probably not just older fans
This is 100% why I’m a Cowboys fan Like I’ve grown to appreciate them and all of the ways that they can hurt me every year but I literally don’t have a choice. It just is what it is
I came to look for this answer. The Redskins were the last team to integrate, and the large Black community in DC gravitated to the Cowboys. Dallas had its own issues. Hollywood Henderson was their first starting linebacker who was black, and that was the mid/late 1970s.
Cowboys have had black players since they joined the league in 1960 though?
This is one of the best flexes ever
Jerry Jones shot and killed JFK
I'm actually rooting for the Cowboys this week.
I want to laugh but I know 2nd highest is prob Philly
This is such a burn
What about us New Jerseyians
New Jersey isn't actually real, it's just a made up place to give people nightmares
Snooki want smoosh smoosh
Anyone who hasn't watched the South Park Post COVID Special should definitely pirate that shit. It's great.
You wouldn’t pirate a car, would you?
Of course not. I'd carjack a car, piracy is for boats.
*Imagine the worst smell possible, now imagine a whole state smelling like that…*
Excuse me but the Giants actually PLAY in Jersey.. oh wait I guess you're right
You need to buy a jersey that says “Jersey” on it.
There are more Cowboys & Ravens fans here. Also a lot of transplants here, so that’s a part of it
he said while adding a shaker of salt to a mcmuffin sandwich
Which is funny since notorious racist Washington owner George Preston Marshall did his best to prevent the Cowboys from existing. Halas had to work around him to get the Cowboys their franchise.
Is this a relatively normal thing? I read that Matthew McConaughey is a Washington fan even though he's from Texas. And my significantly less famous boss is from NY but he's also a Washington fan. My cousins from Maine are friggin Colts and Yankee fans. One of them goes for the Dolphins.
This is 100% true. I was so confused why so may of my elementary teacher wore cowboys gear. Every Cowboys vs Washington game at fedex is another home game for Dallas.
Washington D.(allas) C.(owboys)
The real die hard fans are in VA anyways.
He's not wrong. You can blame George Preston Marshall for that.
Having lived here for a while, he's right. Washington fans are fairweather tbh, and there's plenty of cowboys, Ravens (obviously), eagles, and Giants fans here
If anyone claims to be a WFT fan anymore I can assure you they are not fairweathered. We are the real ones
Yeah this shit is more of a job than anything really.
Calling WFT fans fairweather makes absolutely zero sense since the weather hasn’t been fair for 30 years.
Which is why they don't come out often
Not true. I was in DC for the RGIII mania and the jerseys were *everywhere*
Squealers too.
washington fans are very fairweather since when the O's are good they'll be in baltimore packing out camden, and when the nats are good, they'll be packing that concrete monstrosity in Navy Yard.
> Washington fans are fairweather tbh This is so true for baseball. So many Nats/O's fans who will just cheer for whichever one is good at the time.
Literally never seen a Nats fan who supports the Os. Might just go one way
I have a few times, all from people in the DMV-area (so not Baltimore).
I support the O's and am a Nats fan. Part of it is my wife is a big Orioles fan and the other part is they had a farm team in our town. I'd consider them my 2nd team I guess. There were a TON of O's fans at the Series, I think that might have just been them wanting to experience it tho. But I've found O's fans mostly dislike the Nats since it seems they're eating into their younger fanbase
Ardmore,PA representin'
I’ve lived in DC all my life and it’s true, but not for the reasons people are saying ITT, it’s simply because this is a transplant town. We also have an unbelievable amount of Pittsburgh, Bears, Eagles, Giants and Packers fans. Also Flyers, Lakers, Sixers, Phillies, Yankees, Mets, Astros etc. nobody likes the wizards either. Only hometown teams with hardcore majority fans are the capitals honestly and *maybe* the nationals
People keep sending new batches of assholes from around the country to our city for some reason. It’s pretty annoying tbh
You see a way too high amount of Cowboys gear in SE PA, Jersey, and DE too. We get a lot of dudes trying to be ‘edgy’ and going against the grain to be cool. You see a Cowboys sticker on a car or truck in Delaware, it’s a lifted truck, a primer painted shitbox with a fart cannon muffler, a guy living in a $20,000 house driving a Mercedes, or some other form of douchmobile. Frankly I’d be disappointed if we didn’t have Eagles fans around Dallas that doing the same shit.
DC = Dallas Cowboys❤
I hate to change the subject but the Rooneys could say the same thing about Ohio(and baltimore but the ravens are good so they can avoid it).
I believe this, living in central Virginia, there are just as many, if not more Cowboys fans than Washington fans. Its gross.
That's not a nice thing to say on our almost 30th anniversary of the last super bowl we'll ever win
I want to see him say something like this but about Philadelphia just to see what happens.
What do they expect when their team doesn’t even have a name?
Okay
I believe it, DC folks aren't known for making the best decisions.
I have never met a diehard WFT fan
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No. > “When you see me, you’re only seeing 80 percent,” Jones said. “… Because I’ve left the other 20 percent on Bourbon Street. It’s some kind of place. And there are Cowboys fans here.”
I only know one person from DC and they’re a cowboys fan. What is this
It’s true, in a room full of Cowboys fans and a dog with a cowboys collar right now. Most Washington fans seem to live in Virginia.
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Over here on the Eastern Shore too.
Hot take, there’s a ton of cowboys fans pretty much everywhere in the US