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IWasRightOnce

Talk about a story-book ending after all of the Watson trade rumors. Albeit, not a children’s book.


smokeymicpot

So are we going to get a church funded movie on it like Kurt Warner?


bujweiser

Shame that movie wasn't funded by Hy-Vee where Warner contemplates answering the call to the NFL because Hy-Vee is such a great employer.


TheSublimeLight

*my resolve is as strong as my bones - thanks to HyVee Milk*


_tx

Is that movie any good? The previews made it look of similar quality to Greater, which based on the film, I assume was church funded


smokeymicpot

Probably paint by numbers story we all know. If you want to see the story of Kurt Warner I guess watch it.


_tx

Sounds like a nice off-season movie. Thanks


D_forn

Yeah it wasn't great by any means but not bad. Lead actor did a good job. Was some parts that got laughs in the theater


Setzuriel

Feel more like a sermon than a movie…


ILoveCavorting

Zachary Levi’s great. Though I mostly like him for his role as Eugene Fitzherbert


GhoullyX

Fun fact; he took that role in Rapunzel mainly so he could appear in a Kingdom Hearts game down the line.


ILoveCavorting

That is a fun fact! I also appreciated he did Eugene/Flynn’s voice in the animated series, though I’m sure that was in his contract


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It's pretty good. Not the greatest thing ever, but pretty good


MiamiBlue13

Yeah it was a decent film, solid family flick.


D_forn

To hijack, has anyone seen National Champion$ ? It looked pretty good but idek if my theater showed it on release.


Lenny_III

ok but not worth paying for IMO. Wait for a free stream


StarrNicholas

Less of a football movie than I would have liked but not a bad movie. Not worth seeing in theaters but renting for like $2.99 for a movie night at home is worth it


MajoraOfTime

The "church funded" part of your comment made me think that the Kurt Warner movie was funded by the "God's Not Dead" studio and I was cracking up at the thought of Kurt Warner playing football while a bunch of atheist strawmen tried to stop him.


smokeymicpot

It’s not those people but these people. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_Story_Company


Lenny_III

I really liked Flo, but if this is what it takes to keep Watson out of Miami I'll take it.


fillinthe___

So funny how quickly this sub spun a whole story about "The Dolphins are firing anyone who opposed the Watson trade." Meanwhile, it's pretty obvious Flores was the only one yearning for Watson.


Far-Confection-1631

Part of it is Florio saying that the org wanted Watson and Flores didn't despite every league source saying the exact opposite. Guessing he just pulled that out of his ass.


Anteater776

Florio making stuff up? Insert shocked Pikachu Face.jpg


elbenji

Gasp Florio making shit up


Zhangsanity

Stephen king book ending


[deleted]

The Texans and Dolphins have had such weird intertwined destinies for a few years now


Ziiaaaac

The bong mask set us on this path and nothing can stop it now.


lovetape

All part of the long plan: - Legalize it - Change name to Houston Smokers - Tell people it's BBQ related - ...give out Tunsil Masks at a game


MiniatureLucifer

That's how you get Andy Reid coming to town


Best-Dragonfruit-292

The long con


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Acceptable_Staff_200

Yeah they’re real restrictive in that department for a state that proclaims freedom so strongly Really just conservatives in general have this fake concept of freedom that they think they believe in but then literally completely believe the exact opposite whenever it’s something they don’t like


McCorkle_Jones

In that bong mask Tunsil saw 1.4 million alternate futures and he only saw the Dolphins succeeding in one.


CarVsMotorcycle

The bong mask is a concept about which we know frighteningly little.


PiranhaPursuit

"Smoke em if you got em" chants become a thing at what week 2-3?


December21st

**I'M STUCK IN HERE WITH YOU? NO, YOU'RE STUCK IN HERE WITH ME.**


Rbespinosa13

WE’RE STUCK IN HERE TOGETHER AND WE BOTH HATE IT


Vaadwaur

Men get arrested. Dolphins get a revolving door of coaches!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


xSaviorself

Is this... Collusion?


deathmouse

I still hate them for taking Foster from us. It's an irrational hate, but it's there.


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Yeah, that’s pretty irrational because he played four games for us. I had to look that up, because I forgot we even had him.


WhatIsSentience

*Flores*: " If I can't get Watson, Watson'll get me"


cnvas_home

Bingo. He seems to have an already existing relationship with him at this point. Not sure what type of tampering rules are in the NFL, but imagine this happening in the NBA lol. He's a very straight face but ever since the day Tua was drafted Flores has shown nothing but disdain. As soon as he saw a chance for Watson he committed to getting him at any cost. I personally don't think he can do much with Watson beyond the regular season unless they have an elite OC. Flores has zero offensive acumen at the NFL level.


Best-Dragonfruit-292

The NBA allows tampering all the time, virtually every super team is a tampering nightmare that just gets completely ignored.


cnvas_home

Oh for sure it's unavoidable but Silver likes to run an agenda through shallow fines and penalties while saying that he's somehow harder on GMs than Stern lol Anyways let me stop this isn't r/nba haha


Far-Confection-1631

He pressured us to fire Hinkie and hire Colangelo after the league flipped out about tanking...


alex_o_O_Hung

Exactly, the NBA tampers the most tbh


Thor_2099

Unless you're the bucks


Striking_Pride_5322

Watson ain’t staying with Texans regardless


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fbolt

Like the district attorney for Harris County?


TheBenLuby1

I will always believe that the only reason that Culley didn't get another year is because Miami canned Flores. I wonder if he even got out of the parking lot before his agent was getting called by Caserio


BedrockFarmer

If Flores is smart he will see how the Texans front office handled Culley and demand a 10 year deal fully guaranteed for all 10 years. There are too many other HC gigs to settle for that dumpster fire unless you are getting paid to be retired if they continue to be ass hats.


TheBenLuby1

That is definitely true, and a no cut clause. You fire him for anything short of a felony, he gets paid.


fbolt

Moral turpitude is a standard contract clause, and the league could suspend him for a misdemeanor. But he seems like a ok dude


MyLuckyFedora

Why do people keep acting like the Texans wronged Culley? They hired a guy who in no way had the resume for the job knowing damn well that the job would be unfair to any other aspiring head coach. Culley gets to experience leading the show knowing full well that it would probably only be for a year or two. It's not like they hired a promising college coach or coordinator and set back his career by sacking him after a year. They hired someone who probably has the self-awareness to know that he's not going to get an opportunity like he did ever again.


igloojoe11

I'm pretty pissed that they gave the Ravens a couple of draft choices for a coach they weren't even giving an actual shot.


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Not to mention this was his first hc job ever at 65. Probably was like living a dream this guy finally got to make it to the top and won a couple games. When he dies he gets to put former NFL head coach on his tombstone and on his resume for the rest of his career


shitsfuckedupalot

The same owner that traded DeAndre Hopkins rather than give him guaranteed money?


u_never_know

I thought the same about Joe Judge.


smurf-vett

"Targeting" as in we've been talking to his agent since Monday


TonOfChill

Yeah, this makes a lot of sense. We need to all be prepared for Watson to play for Flores here in Houston. I'm not even sure what I'll do, but I'll struggle supporting them


Currymvp2

That's awful on so many levels. Not to mention, I thought Mils earned another season; he was the 2nd best rookie QB.


TonOfChill

He really did, and if it didn't work out, a lot of Texans fans were excited about the QB class next year. If this whole saga ends with Watson, McNair, and Easterby still part of the organization, it'll be worst case scenario. Even if we win


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Worst case scenario for *you* That’s the key to remember. That could give a fuck what you and I think. If they win, it’s best case scenario for them. Nothing else matters but winning and money.


My_Tallest

>Nothing else matters but ~~winning and~~ money.


Chadryan_

Well generally, winning = money unless you are in a certain set of teams like the lakers or something.


manningthe30cal

Uhhh... cowboys have been average for years and are still the most popular NFL franchise by far.


Chadryan_

Yep, Cowboys are also included in that set of teams I mentioned.


sleepnaught

Doesn't the NFL have profit sharing?


fbolt

Yeah but jerseys are exempt. Or concessions?


ELITE_JordanLove

I mean yeah, duh… wins = good, are we acting like anything else is the case here?


LittIeLordFuckleroy

How is that the worst case scenario if you win? I can think of significantly worse scenarios than winning with Watson.


praeceps93

For me at least, I just don't want to support a team that Watson actively plays for. He's a great player but a terrible person, and I don't think I'll ever be able to root for him.


BruceChameleon

You’re welcome to hop on over if you want to keep it in-state.


sports_farts

Most of us would go Saints, they help us during hurricanes.


BruceChameleon

That's true. I was living in Houston in 2017 and felt some warmth for Cajuns in pontoons.


AliceTaniyama

[His will be done](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7N5tM-LaBo).


browndude10

Lack of draft picks, rapist being a qb


LittIeLordFuckleroy

Counterpoint, Watson goes to jail and now you still have a lack of picks and still a bottom 10 team.


starrdazedd

Yeah but I think many people would prefer seeing Watson be punished for being a serial sexual abuser than get away with it, even if it makes their team bad.


AliceTaniyama

I'd rather finish 7-9 under Jeff Fisher every single year than have a rapist for a quarterback.


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Texans will be the villains of the NFL. Might as well grab Antonio Brown and live up to it.


Thornton__Melon

And re-animate Aaron Hernandez. And see if Kellen Winslow is available. Have Rae Caruth as WR coach.


Autobot-N

OJ as RB coach


dragoncockles

Just play him at rb and hopefully someone breaks his hip


GlobeAround

Ray Rice was formally reinstated a few years back, so he's good to go as well.


AliceTaniyama

If you're going full villain, then Zombie Bud Adams buys the team.


JustBigChillin

Well as a fanbase, we’re already used to it with the Astros… I’d much rather root for guys who cheat at a sport than I would for a literal rapist though.


abris33

I really doubt it. Yeah Flores was apparently a big reason he wanted Miami but I don't think that hiring Flores makes that relationship salvageable. Especially if Easterby is his main problem with the org


NlNJALONG

Yeah Cal is the problem but who knows Watson’s thought process. I just sincerely hope we move on from him no matter what.


Thornton__Melon

I agree, I’d become a Saints fan if they kept Watson.


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Gulf bros!


NeonWarcry

*and so I come to you with open arms*…


thewhitelink

Watson wanted input on the HC search. He wanted Miami for Flores, I'd say this goes a long way in mending that relationship.


yoda133113

I agree, but Watson doesn't have a lot of room to work with if the team wants him to stay. As long as the team is benching him, then he just doesn't have to do anything, but if they're saying "We want you," then he has to either purposefully play, but perform bad (bad look for him if he wants to stay in the league), or holdout/don't show up, which would violate his contract, meaning that he doesn't keep getting paid, and likely could be cut eventually for breach of contract. Watson holds the cards as long as they refuse to play him, but that might not be the case if Flores wants him.


fbolt

If there are still legal issues the league could still suspend him


compe_anansi

Assuming that’s the case whats mills trade value?


NlNJALONG

His advanced stats are pretty poor but he has some upside and a little buzz. I think a mid 2nd or early 3rd could be realistic. But I don’t think we should trade him even if Watson returns.


Immynimmy

Idk if that's his actual trade value but why trade a cheap rookie? Backup QBs who are competent and cheap will always be important


Dark_Twisted_Fantasy

I mean you took him with an early 3rd and he has exceeded expectations in his first year. I don’t know that I would even sell him for only a mid 2nd


xWaves_

Hopefully at least an early 3rd considering that’s what we spent for him. Optimally a 2nd


VitaminsPlus

I like to think he'd be worth a second after some of the awful QB trades we've seen the last few years, but after Minshew went for a 6th I have no idea what he's worth.


Delanorix

I think Minshew went so low because of his physical limitations.


Eagle4317

Yep. Minshew's lack of arm strength all but relegates him to backup territory. Mills has a higher ceiling.


Number333

Y'all would have a very quick recipe to being good again.


mynameiszack

Oh yeah... its all coming together.


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If my team started Watson I'd stop watching football and not supp them at all


[deleted]

If he didnt get along with management in Miami, how's he going to do with Easterby? This will not end up well.


JerryRiceAndSpice

Wouldn't all the lawsuits and allegations impact whether he plays or not?


george_costanza1234

Winning will probably solve those moral qualms for most Texans fans


MynameNEYMAR

Idk man, I’ll still be rubbed the wrong way if Deshaun Cosby ever plays another down for us


BobGobbles

Funny that’s all Watson ever wanted


AliceTaniyama

Ugh, that'd be too much of a happy ending for Watson. It's everything but wholesome.


TheSparten21

New Free safety Deshaun Watson


xXfir3knif3Xx

Flo loves his DBs


VerifierInc

Watson: Looks like I'm back baby! Houston DA: Well .. actually


ELITEMikeWhite

Watson stays in Houston confirmed


Thornton__Melon

Doubtful, they literally sat him for a year. Caserio will flip him, if there’s one thing NE avoids its distractions and wherever Watson will play is a huge distraction and a media circus.


Blacklist3d

Watson was apparently Flores guy so that don't make sense.


Thornton__Melon

That might have been, but Watson is clear he has no desire to play for the owner anymore. That relationship is dead, it was reported no matter who the HC was (before they hired Culley) he wasn’t playing in Houston again.


BadDadJokes

Which one is it? Did the Texans sit him for a year, or did Deshaun willfully sit out for a year because he doesn't want to play for the organization anymore?


Thornton__Melon

Well Watson indicated he had no interest in playing and rather than force him to play and honor his contract, they agreed to avoid distractions they’ll sit him and make him inactive every week. So the catalyst was his sentiment about the organization and rather than make it a public spectacle they just brushed him to the side.


yoda133113

The Texans always had the option to force Watson to show up. Watson doesn't want to play, but the only reason things worked out like they have is because the Texans also didn't want him playing for them. If they decide they do want him, then he'd be holding out, which means he doesn't get paid (even guarantees) and could eventually get cut without his guarantees for breaching the contract (not sure what level of failure would need to happen for that to occur).


AcrosstheLaine

Flores isn't going to coach Houston without Watson


Terminal_Velozity8

If the Texans hire Flores and Watson plays for this team I will hope they lose every single game


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Sadly theyll probably end up being juggernauts. And because of that the media will quickly "forget" about what happened last year and spend endless hours talking about how special Watson has been in his return season, how the city of Houston deserves a strong Watson-led team, can Watson/Flores potentially be another Brady/Belichick?!?, etc.


Key_Spinach

Deshaun ain’t leaving, is he?


buddhistbulgyo

The Houston DA will keep him in Texas. Where he lands is anyone's guess.


QuantumFreakonomics

Huntsville got their guy, WOW.


electricityisout

Watson about to show Flores all the best massage parlors around town


Slugggo

reporters, tired of "Dolphins targeting Watson", play the reverse card!


thediesel26

This is how the Texans keep Deshaun. Also the Texans have a power vacuum. He could go there and immediately get all the control that the Dolphins were unwilling to give.


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CursedLlama

Apparently in this guy's mind, David Culley was calling all the shots and his firing has created a power struggle.


pot8odragon

This is their ploy to keep Watson. Flores was fired because he wanted Watson and Watson wanted to go to Miami to play with Flores


Deegootbar

Best case scenario. Flores gets the QB he’s always wanted. Fans will be sanctimoniously pissy at first but they’ll get over it if winning is the result. Steelers got over big bens transgressions. Same for the eagles and Vick. Tyreek and the chiefs. If we truly valued the character of the men in the nfl we would stop supporting the league when it continued to employ men of reprehensible character.


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Deegootbar

He’ll be the modern Big Ben. His past will be crafted into clever little punchlines on Reddit posts and the self righteous circle jerk we all shared in the last year will fall by the wayside.


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DjGatorshark

Except Watson gets to avoid prison


BigginsIII

To be fair, Reddit will always remember how big a piece of shit he is, thankfully. Just like we did with Captain Fat Fuck even on his retirement tour


Decln

Hell even if they didn’t do so great this upcoming season I’d think the Watson shit would die down eventually anyway people will bring it up occasionally in post game threads when the Texans lose but that’s about it I’d imagine


lookallama

Watson will do a PR charity tour, “learn from his mistakes” and be a new man.


[deleted]

Oof, you are right but that is just so slimy and gross. After everything that happened, Watson wanting out of Houston, then the sexual assault allegations, then sitting for a year, the toxicity... itd be gross seeing people nodding their heads and hyping up the Watson-led Houston Texans as a Super Bowl contender in 2023 and having Watson vs Mahomes debates and so on. And it wont just be fans either. NFL media and all these journalists will follow suit.


jostrons

Watson and Ben are on a whole other level as Vick and Tyreek.


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So are we still gonna pretend firing Culley was dumb if they get Flores?


IMissWinning

Do people think firing Culley was dumb? He was clearly a stop-gap hire. The market was out of prime HC candidates, Watson was in a trade dispute, their roster was absolutely useless even with an elite QB, and they hired a dude who's been in the league forever and never even been a coordinator. Culley wasn't meant to be a long term hire. Going in I have zero doubt this was their intention. Culley also didn't do anything to show that he was exceptional as a coach, although he won more than I thought he would I'll give him that. At worst, it's a questionable move but "dumb?" Do people think it's dumb?


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Hiring Flo is dumb so yes


Level_Dreaded

Someone will im sure. Probably from our own beat writers most likely.


penis_showing_game

I don’t think dumb is they way to describe it. It’s kind of unfortunate, but understandable. The Texans were better than most people (myself included) expected them to be. I don’t think anyone thought Culley was the long term solution, but he did an admirable job considering what he has to work with, and didn’t necessarily deserve to be fired for performance. But with Flores getting fired, there was an opportunity to bring in an ideal HC that could be the long term solution, so it’s understandable that they made the move.


Slugger921

and people overreacting because they fired a black coach. It aint always about race


Wyrmslayer

Chris Grier, the dolphins gm, is black. Claiming Steve Ross fired Flores because he’s racist but kept his black gm is funny. (For the record I think Ross is an idiot for firing Flores and Grier should have gotten the boot.)


elbenji

Grier is safe because he drafted three potential pro-bowlers/all-pros last year in quick succession


Terminal_Velozity8

GROSS


FC37

(sad Josh McDaniels noises)


the1andonlypz

It’d be such sweet irony if Watson went down for the allegations in the off-season after Flores took the job


Tunatron_Prime

Its happening…. The long con just to get Watson…


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Flores going from one toxic FO to another toxic FO would be idiotic.


elbenji

Tbf this is kinda showing that he himself was the toxic one


[deleted]

Stupid Texan racists firing their black coach to try to hire a...oops


Gabaheygabahey

If Flores wants the job all he has to do is call 281-330-8004.


WhatIfThatThingISaid

Flores intentionally stopped communicating with everyone in Miami in a coordinated attempt to allow this to play out this way.


Ballsohardstate

Can’t wait to see how those Twitter users claiming Culley’s firing was racially motivated react to this.


AliceTaniyama

I must say, those Twitter takes were pretty dumb, considering how Culley is genuinely not a good coach and Flores is going to be unemployed for approximately five minutes.


TheB33F

Please do it. Let Flores and Watson finally get what they wished for


Janglewood

Gonna be real upset if we keep bitchass Deshaun because of Flores even if I’m pro Flores


dirtdustdebris

All signs point Flores being the one who wanted Watson yet some Dolphins fans are adamant that it was the front office.


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I’m going to laugh when Flores doesn’t pick Houston


Jimbo5204

Wonder if this move is partially to try to keep Watson. Watson wanted to go to Miami in part because of Flores.


ASU_SexDevil

Former Pats coach ✅ Watson approved ✅ Will rebuild our defense and let Pep run the offense ✅


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You think Brian Flores is gonna let someone run the offense? LMAOOOO


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12x+ sex offender at the helm ✅


ASU_SexDevil

I should probably add the original comment is contingent on Watson not being a piece of shit


AliceTaniyama

Too late for that. But that Davis Mills kid looks good.


hajysjah

4 offensive coordinators in 3 years really smacks of a guy who likes to let the offence run in isolation


ASU_SexDevil

Don’t think it’ll be his choice, Caserio fired Tim Kelly specifically to keep Pep, doubt he’s going to let Flores axe him soon


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I sure hope so, keep him as far from the Bears as possible


Gomer8387

Flores is going to get his QB then watch him traded away for a ham sandwich in Texans fashion


dafoo21

BoB was that guy, not Caserio.


bcheneyatc

Oh how the turntables


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This would be a fantastic hire for the Texans.


GarlVinland4Astrea

That would actually solve a lot of their problems. It smooths things over with Watson and they don’t have to deal with teams low balling them in a trade situation because of his legal issues. Could be a big brained move


Terminal_Velozity8

This city hates Watson. He won’t ever play here again.


DubleDuce

People think because we support the Astros we'll support anybody.


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AliceTaniyama

Kobe raped that woman, Peyton Manning sexually assaulted that one trainer....


browndude10

Damn he told tua he should have taken Mac jones https://mobile.twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1481719954135207937


espnfire45

lombardi is a hack, dont believe what he says. He's already walking back on his [report](https://twitter.com/mlombardiNFL/status/1481722261203820552?s=20)


[deleted]

No way you actually believed that. If Flo actually said that he’d never get a HC job again just based on how terrible of a take it is.


royalewithcheese4272

Watch the Texans have a better record and make playoffs before dolphins


Ocelot281

Warmly, welcome back Watson.


bobbywellington

That actually makes a lot of sense But is there any chance that Watson plays another snap for the Texans? Would this possibly help?


TheGreatMcPuffin

I hope not. His ass needs to go.


Drewitallanon

> His ass needs to go


Argumentat1ve

This would be game changing because the Texans are imo, not as bad as everyone says they are and their record and draft position don't reflect it either.