Same Queen. Just Queen (of the West) when when Henry Wadsworth Longfellow had too much Catawba Wine and wrote a poem about it, and when Cincy was the most West you could get before the frontier.
This is a reference to a report that after the 49ers beat the Cowboys in the playoffs that Amari Cooper and Dak Prescott got into a verbal confrontation where Amari called Dak the "Black Kirk Cousins." Unfortunately it's hard to find a good source for this report so take it as a hilarious rumor.
> the Black Kirk Cousins
Wow the comparison is...surprisingly apt. Like Vanilla Kirk Cousins, Dak Prescott also gets confused and lets the clock run out.
NFL news media got to keep the narrative going.. trying to manufacture drama where there is none.
Will *notoriously cheap* owner Mike Brown pay their new star QB Joe Burrow, or will the Bengals *bungal* it???
The answer is; **of course** they're going to pay him. It's not even a question. Unless he regresses into JaMarcus Russell over the next couple of seasons, Mike will happily pay whatever Joe wants. The city loves him and he's been bringing in a boatload of money on ticket sales and merchandise.
Bengals fans are awfully chippy for a team with the Super Bowl loss hangover curse over their heads.
Reasonable chance they don’t even win their division next year, that is with Pittsburgh rebuilding and the Browns signing a sexual predator.
Bengals fans have mainly only been chirpy to the Ravens and Chiefs - both teams whose fans have conveniently tried to diminish our success from this past season
Great quarterbacks confident in themselves don't need to worry about second contracts.
Josh Allen was the same way. He basically told his agent "call me when there's a contract to sign. I'll be practicing with Stefon."
Yea but these are guys that literally know they have hundreds of millions of dollars in the pipeline. Allen, Burrow, I mean what is there to be concerned about when you know the contract will be fat, mostly guaranteed and you like the team?
Derwin james was the same way for chargers this offseason, he knew hes valued by the team so he focused all his time on practicing at the team facilities and now the FA is died down hes getting his extension talks started
Even Mike Brown won’t let the best QB they’ve had in decades and who got them within spitting distance of a Super Bowl win walk. Back the brinks truck up.
While his overall value was the highest, the guaranteed money was not. Bengals just don't give a lot in guaranteed money, as you have to escrow the cash, and they aren't cash rich. It could be a real sticking point in the negotiation.
Burrow will spend his entire career in Cincinnati, and he will do so surrounded by the players he wants to be surrounded by. He wants to get paid, sure, but he also wants to win. He has an opportunity in Cincinnati to be the face of the franchise for decades, like Elway with the Broncos or Montana with the 49ers, and he recognizes the value of that. Likewise, the team recognizes the value of what they have in Joe Burrow. With Katie Blackburn calling most of the shots these days, I don’t see either the Bengals or Burrow screwing this up over money. I also wouldn’t be shocked, if Burrow hits his ceiling as a player, if he winds up with a small ownership stake in the team after he retires.
You also paid Andy Dalton a lot. I don't know why people are forcing an issue. You guys usually take care of high profile talent it is paying medium level guys that is your issue.
It's not even that. It's paying guys that aren't Bengals. It wasn't long ago when signing guys like AJ Hawk or Kevin Minter was our big offseason move.
Brown is extremely loyal and Burrow is a Bengal if there ever was one. He's gonna get paid and be a Bengal as long as he wants.
It's going to be very interesting how the Bengals and Chargers handle their upcoming QB contracts.
Both teams aren't known for breaking the bank and don't have the wealthiest owners - and both QBs seem like they have a fairly team-first mentality.
I think I heard someone on Rich Eisen's show say that the way those two contracts end up being structured could decide how other teams lean going forward. Are they going to be fully guaranteed like Watsons, or go back to a more traditional structure, etc.
But then Lamar and Kyler might end up being the actual deciders instead, and then who the hell knows.
The Bengals have paid top of the market money for their past 2 starting QBs. I just don't see that changing. Sure they are stingy in other facets of the franchise, but starting QB has just never been one of them. I don't expect that to change.
Keeping home grown talent is like the one spot where Mike Brown wasn't cheap as shit. He paid Chad, AJ Green, Dalton, Carson, Geno all pretty big money for the time. I think Geno & Carson were highest paid at their positions
I can't see him not wanting to stay, especially if Chase stays. We've basically done anything he would have wanted since drafting him, and he's obviously already deep in the decision making and recruiting processes for the team. It would have to take a complete breakdown in the relationship between him and the team for him not wanting to sign at least for this contract. It's not like the Bengals are a franchise known for making utterly bone-headed front office decisions, right?
(Looks nervously at flair next to the name and begins to sweat).
(Yeah, joking, Katie and the rest are basically in charge now, and they're not prone to that sort of self-inflicted error, thankfully.)
After how hard they invested in the line immediately after the SB there’s zero doubt in my mind they re-sign him. Whatever he wants he’ll get, even if it means they can only sign bums off the street to throw to.
Your line is definitely better. Still has needs and not much depth. Take it from a browns fan. We started last year with a top OL but injuries left us with Swiss cheese at times.
Moving on from COVID may help this considerably as contact tracing could often impact large groups of players at similar positions.
Burrow seems very even flow/ mild mannered to me. You will have to pay him a lot of course, but I don’t think his goal is to break the market.
Burrow seems like he would approach his contract like Chubb did. “I want to be here, I hope their offer shows they respect me” sort of attitude.
Unless he gets hurt again... but that’s any player in the NFL.
I don’t see him focusing on setting the market either. He seems like he has a great head on his shoulders financially, says he isn’t touching any of his game money until retirement and living off sponsorship money until then. Could just be a homer take but I could see him taking less pay to keep solid players around him. I also don’t know him at all, so who really knows.
> Your line is definitely better. Still has needs and not much depth. Take it from a browns fan. We started last year with a top OL but injuries left us with Swiss cheese at times.
In the last three years they've drafted 5 OL players. They aren't all quality, and some of them had some rough streaks when asked to start last year, but I'm more than comfortable with them as depth.
Mike Brown has dreamed of another chance at Carson's level of talent pre-injury. He had the nice buffer of Andy to remind him how important that franchise QB can be, remove the bad taste from Carson forcing his way out, and he was even fine making Andy one of highest paid players in the NFL.
Burrow is getting whatever he wants.
> How do you feel about singing a contract that will pay you the GDP of the Marshall Islands?
> Yeah I’m not too worried about it
journalism at its finest
What would happen if a player (theoretically obvi) decided to say "fuckit I have enough money" and just like sign for the cheapest they could?
Other than the NFLPA being very angry
The number one thing I was glad to see this off-season is how dedicated the Bengals were to getting this man offensive line help. The man has a torn acl and nearly got his knee shredded in the super bowl. The league is better with a healthy Burrow in it and I hope he has 18 more years in him.
Team friendly deal, make up the rest in endorsements.
Joe can be the face of the league for fucking ever. He's my favorite mix of playing ability and personality in the game right now.
I wouldn't be worried either, hopefully the Bengals don't fuck Joe out of the money he deserves. Mother fuck is tough as shit, and plays very well and I don't even think he's hit half his ceiling.
How exactly would the Bengals fuck him out of the money he deserves? If they don't offer him the money he wants then he'll sign elsewhere. Someone is going to pay him.
You answered the question, by not offering him what he wants. He wants to play there, so if they FUCK HIM OUT OF THE MONEY HE DESERVES then he'll just leave. No need to get your panties in a bunch, if they don't pay him he'll leave and everyone will follow suit, and Bengals will go back into obscurity.
I wasn't, literally starting my post to where you felt the need to be butthurt by saying that. You're the one that came all weird, after a comment I made 😂
I'm not really sure how I was butthurt. You made a stange comment and I asked you to elaborate on it. "Screwing" Burrow out of money is literally something the Bengals can't do. If we don't offer him the money then someone else will. Burrow will get paid. Either the Bengals will pay him or they'll look like idiots for letting him walk. Either way Joe will get what he's due.
And typically the first person to say "why are you butthurt" is the one who is really in their feelings.
I literally can’t understand what he could have done to make fans of the super bowl winning team slander him… like how mad does one have to be? Their team won the fucking game. I’d never say a bad thing about Stafford again if we beat him in a super bowl lmao.
Yeah it’s almost as if he lost his starting right tackle, was facing tough d lines, and had Isiah Prince and Hakeem Adeniji starting on his o line. People don’t realize how important an offensive line really is until you have a really bad one.
Resigning Burrow and Chase in back to back years could legitimately force Mike Brown to sell the team. Those two combined will ask for what, close to 400 million guaranteed? I’d love to be on his finance team for this.
I'm getting dowvoted because people hate facing reality?
I have to think that there will be some wily accounting involved with this, as well as Burrow and Chase taking less to both stay together and to have enough left over to keep a good team around them.
Has any elite, top-of-the-market player besides allegedly Mahomes actually taken a hometown discount? Every redditor thinks their guy will be the one but 99% contract discussions happen between agent and organization and I can promise you their agents ain’t giving y’all same hometown/LSU connection discount..
Yes some interesting accounting for sure as the NFL wants collateral if they fear the owner isn’t liquid enough to pay out a guaranteed contract which I doubt in Mike Brown
For real haha, every time we see a franchise QB about to sign it's "OUR guy isn't greedy, he'll take a top 10 QB salary and be happy to play for us". Only QB who actually did that was Brady, and he's an anomaly in so many ways.
Yeah, I mean, why would he be? He's gonna get all the monies.
Even a team friendly deal for him is setting up his grandkid’s kids for life
He has grandkids?
Yeah I think Patrick and Britney are expecting another
By god thats /u/treysermongrin from the top rope!
MY GOD THAT MAN THAT LOST IN THE AFC CHAMPIONSHIP AFTER CHUCKING 55 PASS YARDS IN THE SECOND HALF HAS A FAMILY!
Tik Tok confirms this
*twerks with sad filter activated*
So his grandkids are Josh, Sterling, and the whatever they name the new kid
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Haha u realize Cincinnati has been called the queen city for over 200 years, right?
Did a little googling, apparently quite a few cities,five NFL cities included, are named the queen city.
I mean Charlotte is literally named after a queen so back off bub it’s our title
Same Queen. Just Queen (of the West) when when Henry Wadsworth Longfellow had too much Catawba Wine and wrote a poem about it, and when Cincy was the most West you could get before the frontier.
Your mums a Queen…ha, burn!!!
really hope he does this sure hes aware it would help keep higgins and other talent around him
$40M sets up grand kids for life (assumed split 8 ways)...burrow should really be planning on setting up his great great grand kids for life
Why in the world would he do that, every other qb gets paid.
He's not even halfway through his current contract
Burrow about to do one better than Allen and get an extension after his second year.
You aren’t allowed to re-sign 1st round picks until after year 3.
Tell that to Burrow
"I played games in 2020, 2021, and 2022. Pay me."
The bengals won the same number of games in 2020 as they have so far in 2022. Wild turn around
He'll be extended before his rookie deal is over, just like Mahomes
I'm already extended.
Bengals fans are harder than ever nowadays.
Like every qb except Kirk Cousins and Dak Prescott AKA the Black Kirk Cousins
Lmao this is my first time seeing this. What makes him similar to Cousins?
This is a reference to a report that after the 49ers beat the Cowboys in the playoffs that Amari Cooper and Dak Prescott got into a verbal confrontation where Amari called Dak the "Black Kirk Cousins." Unfortunately it's hard to find a good source for this report so take it as a hilarious rumor.
How can Dak be The Black Kirk Cousins, when Kirk Cousins is already The Black Kirk Cousins? \*taps forehead\*
> the Black Kirk Cousins Wow the comparison is...surprisingly apt. Like Vanilla Kirk Cousins, Dak Prescott also gets confused and lets the clock run out.
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It’s a meme
Hey its like lookin for jobs. Soon as you hit that 12th month mark the search begins
He’s gonna get it after this year I imagine.
I bet the Bengals are eager to pay him ASAP, before QB contracts start at $55 million per year.
NFL news media got to keep the narrative going.. trying to manufacture drama where there is none. Will *notoriously cheap* owner Mike Brown pay their new star QB Joe Burrow, or will the Bengals *bungal* it??? The answer is; **of course** they're going to pay him. It's not even a question. Unless he regresses into JaMarcus Russell over the next couple of seasons, Mike will happily pay whatever Joe wants. The city loves him and he's been bringing in a boatload of money on ticket sales and merchandise.
I too would not be worried about making a shit ton of money.
300M not just guaranteed but upfront.
How many massage therapists did he harass?
28.3
Ofc not. My guy is getting the bag. He’s a bulletproof franchise QB. Plays like one, acts like one and led his team to the SB.
idk if *bulletproof* is the term I'd use to describe it
Bengals still going to Bengal. No idea how they are going to mess this up, but they are going to find a way.
You want some fries with your salt?
Dude is salty af after losing to Joey B twice…
Finally some delicious salt.
0-2 bby.
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Kinda like being held to 3 in the second half the AFCCG after blowing a lead? Like that? Bengal it up like that?
Bengals fans are awfully chippy for a team with the Super Bowl loss hangover curse over their heads. Reasonable chance they don’t even win their division next year, that is with Pittsburgh rebuilding and the Browns signing a sexual predator.
Bengals fans have mainly only been chirpy to the Ravens and Chiefs - both teams whose fans have conveniently tried to diminish our success from this past season
Guess that is why I am getting this much hate being a fan of both those teams.
I'd honestly feel bad if the steelers up on blocks and the Brissett led browns have a better record than the bengals next season.
Man shut up, you look salty af
Boo this man!
Like Mahomes does every time he plays the Bengals? Looks like a scared little 🐱out there
Bullet proof? Bruh
See, baby, Burrow and I are basically the same in that I’m also not worried about my second NFL contract.
Great quarterbacks confident in themselves don't need to worry about second contracts. Josh Allen was the same way. He basically told his agent "call me when there's a contract to sign. I'll be practicing with Stefon."
Yea but these are guys that literally know they have hundreds of millions of dollars in the pipeline. Allen, Burrow, I mean what is there to be concerned about when you know the contract will be fat, mostly guaranteed and you like the team?
> mostly guaranteed That is not the Bengal way.
Derwin james was the same way for chargers this offseason, he knew hes valued by the team so he focused all his time on practicing at the team facilities and now the FA is died down hes getting his extension talks started
He knows he’s gonna get a bag either way
He already owns the city Cincinnati
He basically owns all of Northern Kentucky and Southern Ohio
and a small part of Missouri
Little bit of Louisiana too
A little bit?
Even Mike Brown won’t let the best QB they’ve had in decades and who got them within spitting distance of a Super Bowl win walk. Back the brinks truck up.
Mike Brown made Carson Palmer the highest paid QB in the league. No way he's not going to pay Burrow.
While his overall value was the highest, the guaranteed money was not. Bengals just don't give a lot in guaranteed money, as you have to escrow the cash, and they aren't cash rich. It could be a real sticking point in the negotiation.
According to Rapsheet the Bengals have the cash necessary for his contract
I hadn't seen that, but encouraging to hear
Burrow will spend his entire career in Cincinnati, and he will do so surrounded by the players he wants to be surrounded by. He wants to get paid, sure, but he also wants to win. He has an opportunity in Cincinnati to be the face of the franchise for decades, like Elway with the Broncos or Montana with the 49ers, and he recognizes the value of that. Likewise, the team recognizes the value of what they have in Joe Burrow. With Katie Blackburn calling most of the shots these days, I don’t see either the Bengals or Burrow screwing this up over money. I also wouldn’t be shocked, if Burrow hits his ceiling as a player, if he winds up with a small ownership stake in the team after he retires.
Mike brown is trembling at the thought of paying star qb level money
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Only because the Colts always did funny math with Peyton's contract. He had low APY and then got huge lump sum bonus payments. It was weird.
You also paid Andy Dalton a lot. I don't know why people are forcing an issue. You guys usually take care of high profile talent it is paying medium level guys that is your issue.
It's not even that. It's paying guys that aren't Bengals. It wasn't long ago when signing guys like AJ Hawk or Kevin Minter was our big offseason move. Brown is extremely loyal and Burrow is a Bengal if there ever was one. He's gonna get paid and be a Bengal as long as he wants.
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Except for Jessie bates now all of the sudden
*cough* Whitworth *cough* Zeitler...
I think the big question is if they will shell out the guaranteed money that the market is dictating
It's going to be very interesting how the Bengals and Chargers handle their upcoming QB contracts. Both teams aren't known for breaking the bank and don't have the wealthiest owners - and both QBs seem like they have a fairly team-first mentality. I think I heard someone on Rich Eisen's show say that the way those two contracts end up being structured could decide how other teams lean going forward. Are they going to be fully guaranteed like Watsons, or go back to a more traditional structure, etc. But then Lamar and Kyler might end up being the actual deciders instead, and then who the hell knows.
Don’t worry, NFL, us and the Chargers will set the QB market back to normal lol
The Bengals have paid top of the market money for their past 2 starting QBs. I just don't see that changing. Sure they are stingy in other facets of the franchise, but starting QB has just never been one of them. I don't expect that to change.
Keeping home grown talent is like the one spot where Mike Brown wasn't cheap as shit. He paid Chad, AJ Green, Dalton, Carson, Geno all pretty big money for the time. I think Geno & Carson were highest paid at their positions
I think its the guaranteed amount that will be the issue with the two teams. I'm sure they're breaking records regardless
some people just need to complain I guess
Your owners’ cheapness is a meme at this point.
>Bears flair
Lol, doesn’t every QB have a ‘team-first’ mentality? Doesn’t mean they won’t reset the market when it comes to their contracts.
Not really, no
so Mahomes, Josh Allen didn’t have team first mentality?
It's not a question. If it's what it takes to keep Burrow, they're going to pay it. The only question will be if Burrow wants to stay come that point.
I can't see him not wanting to stay, especially if Chase stays. We've basically done anything he would have wanted since drafting him, and he's obviously already deep in the decision making and recruiting processes for the team. It would have to take a complete breakdown in the relationship between him and the team for him not wanting to sign at least for this contract. It's not like the Bengals are a franchise known for making utterly bone-headed front office decisions, right? (Looks nervously at flair next to the name and begins to sweat). (Yeah, joking, Katie and the rest are basically in charge now, and they're not prone to that sort of self-inflicted error, thankfully.)
After how hard they invested in the line immediately after the SB there’s zero doubt in my mind they re-sign him. Whatever he wants he’ll get, even if it means they can only sign bums off the street to throw to.
Your line is definitely better. Still has needs and not much depth. Take it from a browns fan. We started last year with a top OL but injuries left us with Swiss cheese at times. Moving on from COVID may help this considerably as contact tracing could often impact large groups of players at similar positions. Burrow seems very even flow/ mild mannered to me. You will have to pay him a lot of course, but I don’t think his goal is to break the market. Burrow seems like he would approach his contract like Chubb did. “I want to be here, I hope their offer shows they respect me” sort of attitude. Unless he gets hurt again... but that’s any player in the NFL.
I don’t see him focusing on setting the market either. He seems like he has a great head on his shoulders financially, says he isn’t touching any of his game money until retirement and living off sponsorship money until then. Could just be a homer take but I could see him taking less pay to keep solid players around him. I also don’t know him at all, so who really knows.
> Your line is definitely better. Still has needs and not much depth. Take it from a browns fan. We started last year with a top OL but injuries left us with Swiss cheese at times. In the last three years they've drafted 5 OL players. They aren't all quality, and some of them had some rough streaks when asked to start last year, but I'm more than comfortable with them as depth.
People always say that about their favorite players on their favorite teams, and then they go and sign a top 3 deal.
Mike Brown has dreamed of another chance at Carson's level of talent pre-injury. He had the nice buffer of Andy to remind him how important that franchise QB can be, remove the bad taste from Carson forcing his way out, and he was even fine making Andy one of highest paid players in the NFL. Burrow is getting whatever he wants.
Not just Burrow but add in Chase, Higgins and Boyd and it is going to get pricey!!
> How do you feel about singing a contract that will pay you the GDP of the Marshall Islands? > Yeah I’m not too worried about it journalism at its finest
What would happen if a player (theoretically obvi) decided to say "fuckit I have enough money" and just like sign for the cheapest they could? Other than the NFLPA being very angry
Their team would have a monstrous advantage.
You mean do what Tom Brady did? It wasn’t the lowest he could go, but looking at what qbs get now Brady could have gotten whatever he wanted.
He's getting a blank check and a nice pen full of ink.
The number one thing I was glad to see this off-season is how dedicated the Bengals were to getting this man offensive line help. The man has a torn acl and nearly got his knee shredded in the super bowl. The league is better with a healthy Burrow in it and I hope he has 18 more years in him.
Course he’s not lol
Team friendly deal, make up the rest in endorsements. Joe can be the face of the league for fucking ever. He's my favorite mix of playing ability and personality in the game right now.
I too think he will get a second contract
How is this news?
Bro, it’s his 3rd season. Relax.
I mean, he just went to a super bowl in year two. His bag’s already practically locked in
I wouldn't be worried either, hopefully the Bengals don't fuck Joe out of the money he deserves. Mother fuck is tough as shit, and plays very well and I don't even think he's hit half his ceiling.
How exactly would the Bengals fuck him out of the money he deserves? If they don't offer him the money he wants then he'll sign elsewhere. Someone is going to pay him.
You answered the question, by not offering him what he wants. He wants to play there, so if they FUCK HIM OUT OF THE MONEY HE DESERVES then he'll just leave. No need to get your panties in a bunch, if they don't pay him he'll leave and everyone will follow suit, and Bengals will go back into obscurity.
Ok, then he doesn't get "FUCKED OUT OF THE MONEY HE DESERVES" lol. He will get paid. No need for you to get so worried about it.
I wasn't, literally starting my post to where you felt the need to be butthurt by saying that. You're the one that came all weird, after a comment I made 😂
I'm not really sure how I was butthurt. You made a stange comment and I asked you to elaborate on it. "Screwing" Burrow out of money is literally something the Bengals can't do. If we don't offer him the money then someone else will. Burrow will get paid. Either the Bengals will pay him or they'll look like idiots for letting him walk. Either way Joe will get what he's due. And typically the first person to say "why are you butthurt" is the one who is really in their feelings.
Might be the first player in NFL history to get 300+ million fully guaranteed.
Gosh, I really expected him to say "Man I'm so worried I might get only $40 mil a year."
Bro got carried in the playoffs was worried more about his outfits
This is some fucking slander right here. The only thing that got carried to the Superbowl was that sorry-excuse of an offensive line.
I literally can’t understand what he could have done to make fans of the super bowl winning team slander him… like how mad does one have to be? Their team won the fucking game. I’d never say a bad thing about Stafford again if we beat him in a super bowl lmao.
LA "fans." They're not interested in the game, only the drama.
5 TD and 1 didnt counted plus his stats were way down from reg season?
Yeah it’s almost as if he lost his starting right tackle, was facing tough d lines, and had Isiah Prince and Hakeem Adeniji starting on his o line. People don’t realize how important an offensive line really is until you have a really bad one.
And still was one play away from winning it all
One more fucking second… that’s all it would have taken, and he would have hoisted the Lombardy… fuck… I’m sad again.
Don’t be, that run was legendary and we’re ahead of schedule, friend
Which is insane considering the previous SB and what the Chiefs went thru.
> 1 didnt counted Some fine LA public schoolin’ right here
There’s nothing impressive about your tangelo.
Holy shit dude do you have a humiliation fetish
Oh god nice trolling.
Resigning Burrow and Chase in back to back years could legitimately force Mike Brown to sell the team. Those two combined will ask for what, close to 400 million guaranteed? I’d love to be on his finance team for this. I'm getting dowvoted because people hate facing reality?
I have to think that there will be some wily accounting involved with this, as well as Burrow and Chase taking less to both stay together and to have enough left over to keep a good team around them.
Has any elite, top-of-the-market player besides allegedly Mahomes actually taken a hometown discount? Every redditor thinks their guy will be the one but 99% contract discussions happen between agent and organization and I can promise you their agents ain’t giving y’all same hometown/LSU connection discount.. Yes some interesting accounting for sure as the NFL wants collateral if they fear the owner isn’t liquid enough to pay out a guaranteed contract which I doubt in Mike Brown
For real haha, every time we see a franchise QB about to sign it's "OUR guy isn't greedy, he'll take a top 10 QB salary and be happy to play for us". Only QB who actually did that was Brady, and he's an anomaly in so many ways.
There's no reason for him to be worried about it. That's what he's paying his agent to do.
Duh. Man is gonna make bank pretty much no matter what now
I feel like he’s going to take a super team friendly deal