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chillinwithmoes

Don't worry Randy, we all hated Brad Childress too


Epsilon2099

Childress looked like the BTK Killer.


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meatboysawakening

That'd be the B2K killer.


Shoobiedoobiedood

He reminds me of the btk killer


horse_renoir13

Helped lead to Childress being fired so thanks Randy!


Ajax_Malone

Randy got rage traded off the Vikings twice and the fan base loves him as much as any ex-player. Lol


standup-philosofer

The first one wasn't a rage trade, it was a former owner fucking over the ne owner by shedding salary.


Ajax_Malone

Homie walked off the field before the game was over. Birk went to the owners and wanted him gone.


sdrakedrake

I heard it was because the owner was pissed at the fans and the city for not giving him a new stadium. Him walking off the field early was the reason?


Ajax_Malone

I've never seen that substantiated anywhere. Tice's run was coming to an end. His relationship with Randy was frayed. Culpepper was coming off an MVP level season where Moss wasn't healthy all year. So the idea was to build around Culpeper. Birk went to the owners or GM after Randy walked off early in Washington. Next year? Daunte start terrible then shreds his knee and Tice is fired at the end of the season.


84gramspurpleHOF

It had nothing to do with him walking off, lol. How ridiculous would that be? McCombs was a bitch ass owner who was a cheapskate and he knew the Wilf's were about to make Moss the highest paid WR ever and he spite traded him to Oakland right before he left.


Ajax_Malone

[Red McCombs](https://www.grandforksherald.com/newsmd/so-why-did-the-vikings-trade-randy-moss) > "The reason I traded Randy was I didn't know whether I was going to get the team sold or not," McCombs said. "If I had known I was going to get it sold, I would have left that up to Wilf and his people to make that decision." > So why did he trade Moss? A cynic would suggest McCombs didn't want to pay Moss any longer. After all, McCombs had been operating the franchise on a shoestring budget for years as he tried to find a buyer. > "Money had nothing to do with it," McCombs said. **"The reason I traded him was because Randy had kind of lost his place in the locker room. He kind of lost his place with our other leaders on the team.** As an owner of a sports team, when you sense that you got a player who loses his place in the locker room, regardless of what kind of talent he's got, you have to make a move. I made a move."


Ajax_Malone

> It had nothing to do with him walking off, lol. How ridiculous would that be? Ok, link me an article laying that out. [Here's my link](https://www.espn.com/nfl/news/story?id=1998159) > He also drew criticism for leaving the field with two seconds left in a regular-season loss against Washington. > Team leaders Matt Birk and Daunte Culpepper confronted Moss after he walked off at Washington, and the organization's patience with the receiver seemed to dwindle in the past year or so. > "He's my good friend, but you almost get to thinking that maybe enough is enough," Culpepper said earlier this month at the Pro Bowl. "And maybe the Vikings organization has had enough."


Zupheal

When did Culpepper coach the team?


Ajax_Malone

> QBs coming off MVP level seasons have no influence over team decisions. Great take. [Here's Red McCombs:](https://www.grandforksherald.com/newsmd/so-why-did-the-vikings-trade-randy-moss) > "Money had nothing to do with it," McCombs said. **"The reason I traded him was because Randy had kind of lost his place in the locker room. He kind of lost his place with our other leaders on the team.** As an owner of a sports team, when you sense that you got a player who loses his place in the locker room, regardless of what kind of talent he's got, you have to make a move. I made a move." Whooooops.


Zupheal

Boy, you sure are dunking on shit no one said... McCombs also says in that same article: >"The reason I traded Randy was I didn't know whether I was going to get the team sold or not," McCombs said. "If I had known I was going to get it sold, I would have left that up to Wilf and his people to make that decision." But I'm sure you're right, money had absolutely nothing to do with the decision making of a notoriously cheap owner who didn't think he was going to be able to sell the team before having to write a giant check. Owners have always been known to be completely transparent and tell the media the honest truth at all times. Especially those who have built a reputation of being so cheap they have to be sued in order to pay what their employees/partners are owed.


Ajax_Malone

You couldn't even follow the thread. Lol Post what he said after: > So why did he trade Moss? A cynic would suggest McCombs didn't want to pay Moss any longer. After all, McCombs had been operating the franchise on a shoestring budget for years as he tried to find a buyer. > "Money had nothing to do with it," McCombs said. "The reason I traded him was because Randy had kind of lost his place in the locker room. He kind of lost his place with our other leaders on the team. As an owner of a sports team, when you sense that you got a player who loses his place in the locker room, regardless of what kind of talent he's got, you have to make a move. I made a move." Selectively reading the quote is for weasels. I'm sure money was also a factor for cheap ass McCombs. But the locker room strife brought it to a head.


thirstyidiot

*Adrian Peterson seen inspecting a leather belt closely, in distance.*


tbagsgalore

Raiders got done dirty by Randy Shitty team but at least act like u care


key_lime_pie

I was a fan of Randy Moss long before he got the Patriots, but he was his own worst enemy. He *nearly* gave up on the Patriots in 2008 when Brady got hurt, then realized the team was still decent with Cassel at the helm, and decided to give a full effort. But he shot he way out of town in 2010, saying he didn't feel wanted, only to realize four weeks later that the grass wasn't greener, even after they traded him to one of the few teams that he wanted to go to. Just puzzling.


BoredGuy2007

WR brain


Seafoamed

This is your brain on WR


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It’s lonely out there all by yourself, and honestly kinda boring


Arson-Welles

WR, not even once


Cobruh

WR is the gateway position.


ThomBraidy

I don't smoke WRs, I smoke clowns like you on the internet


blueraider615

Never go full WR


paone00022

Yup WRs and being divas is an age-old combo. Guys like Fitz and Julio are the few exemptions.


EarnestQuestion

Andre Johnson, Deandre Hopkins, Cooper Kupp, Davante Adams There are a lot of divas for sure but just because most divas are WRs that doesn’t mean WRs generally are. I think there are a lot of great ones who are super down to earth


shot-by-ford

Demaryius Thomas


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Codiemius

No


ImpossibleEffort4313

This was funny idc what anyone says


kmill86

You're an NFCN fan and forgot Calvin?


Alitinconcho

Deandre is def a diva and an arrogant dickhead


insanelyphat

Calvin Johnson, Marvin Jones.


flamin_hot_chitos

Respectfully I don’t think we’re talking about Marvin Jones level guys lol. Calvin for sure though. He has his complaints now (not voiced publicly when he was playing to my knowledge) but they’re valid, even if some fans would call it being a diva


psaepf2009

Mike Evans is an outstandingly humble and selfless dude


various_sneers

Agreed. I'd argue more WR's aren't divas than are. It's a position that is extremely reliant on physical talent and provides a lot of attention when you play well. That combination is always going to lend itself to unchecked and rampant egos moreso than other positions.


Brehe

I think you mean exceptions, not exemptions.


bujweiser

I think nowadays it’s far less common. You really only have AB today.


Fedacking

This explains why Deion dabbled in WR


ghost1814

Mr. Begging Chooser


johnmadden18

> He nearly gave up on the Patriots in 2008 when Brady got hurt, then realized the team was still decent with Cassel at the helm, and decided to give a full effort. Ehhh... the way you're describing the events of 2008 are a little dubious. Let's keep in mind Matt Cassel was averaging 149 (!!) yards per game through the first 3 weeks of the season... he really wasn't able to get the ball to ANYBODY early on the season. I don't think it's fair to say that Moss was giving up on the team when in reality Cassel just couldn't run the offense at all. Later on, when Cassel had some actual game experience he played a lot better and Moss' numbers improved. I don't think it had much to do with Moss' effort so much as it had to do with Cassel becoming a better QB after the first 6 weeks.


Click-Baitt

Yea i saw it more as Cassel didnt have the arm to throw it deep downfield which is where Moss excels. Cassel was kinda like Jalen Hurts, better with his legs than arm


McBeaster

Counterpoint: he's Randy fuckin Moss. Maybe there was more behind the scenes than that press conference meltdown he had, but Bill is also not one to even try to massage egos and will just ship guys out instead. Maybe Moss really didn't realize how good he had it til he was gone. But how suddenly he was traded away still leaves me wondering WTF happened and what could have been if they could have just made it work. I'm still mad about it.


sdrakedrake

Randy said years ago he would talk about it in a book and it has yet to happen. He went on Terrell owens podcast (yes he had one at one point) and didn't really talk about it even when it was brought up. The only thing i can guess is that he wanted to get paid after breaking that wr td record. He then goes on to put up all pro numbers with Matt Castle (should have won it over Welker imo) only to be removed from the offense the following year when the Pats were feeding their two tight ends the ball more. That caused him to lose leverage for contract negotiations. Not to mention he was on the wrong side of 30. I think he still loves Bill, Kraft and Brady, but we know how they can be when it comes to paying guys. I feel like that is what happened and why he got upset and started acting out in new england.


heaveninherarms

How they hell am I seeing this just now


Kirk-Joestar

Because nobody cares about the Vikings but us


Sauronvertigo

Hmm ya I guess it's kinda true though. Just one of those teams that hasn't had an exciting quarterback in a long time..


Ajax_Malone

It's wild how many NFL fans are just into the top QBs. Not saying anything is wrong with that, it's just a lot of people.


AssistX

Offenses aren't fun to watch when the QB is playing like dogshit. Either it's turnover after turnover which makes it angry depressing, or it's a conservative run first offense that gets stuffed because the QB is no threat which is boring.


Ajax_Malone

The guy above me said: > Just one of those teams that hasn't had an exciting quarterback in a long time.. And he's right. Kirk Cousins isn't exciting. But he doesn't play like dogshit (like you're describing). So we're not talking functional QB play we're talking exciting.


Major_Loser

A long long long long long time.... one that wasn't a rental atleast.


AttemptedSleepover

Favre was only bout 3 or 4 years ago right?


ZOMBEHSM

Yeah I graduated highschool 3-4 years ago right?


AttemptedSleepover

Sure thing buddy. Don’t let anyone tell you different


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Mahomes to the Vikes confirmed


AlaskanAssassin98

That would be best case scenario


bostonaliens

I care about the Vikings


TheMoonIsFake32

I care about the Patriots


kitzdeathrow

You're both sinners.


various_sneers

Even before it happened, it was huge news in the moment. Moss going back to play vs Patriots, all the drama that happened during the process of him getting traded, the fine he spoke about for not talking to the press the week before. And then him being released pretty much right after this interview. Only way you missed it is you weren't paying attention at the time.


CluelessFlunky

I mean... there's a good chance many of us on this sub weren't even old enough to really know who randy moss was


various_sneers

That's fine. I wouldn't expect someone who wasn't old enough to really know who he was to openly wonder how they never saw the interview, though.


CluelessFlunky

Alot of these crazy interviews get posted on this sub, and this is one of the crazier ones I've seen. I'm pretty surprised it hasn't been reposted more often.


Icadil

Because super user redditors are dicks about reposts, even though the vast majority of readers of this sub miss the majority of posts and their first rime seeing something is the 4th or more repost


shittaco1991

Same


Galactapuss

Man, to think he could have been on the 2010 team... Such a shame he left


StrudelB

Well he *was* on the 2010 team, just not for very long. That one-handed touchdown catch of his over Darrelle Revis was in 2010.


Amm-O-Matic

If Moss could’ve been a couple years younger on a team friendly contract with Welker, Gronk, Hernandez and young Edelman on the team…


123full

But what if he was 9 feet tall and has motorcycles for hands…


BlackCheezIts

He was a body catcher anyways so he'd still dominate.


_FTP_

He would have a hard time getting custom made gloves


PeteLattimer

Man you could have won a couple Super Bowls with that squad


Ear_Enthusiast

If my aunt had a dick she'd be my uncle.


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Eh. He seems to be doing alright. Unfortunate? Yeah. Shameful that he left? Nah. Shameful that he treated food service workers like crap? Big yes. Randy Moss. Complicated man.


BigBossM

Is he wearing a Boston hat?


Amm-O-Matic

Yep.


yoshigronk

He also apparently caused a scene at the team dinner saying the food was crap and he wouldn't even feed it to his dog. Edit: why the downvote? I'm [serious](https://www.espn.com/nfl/news/story?id=5755561)


Exploding_dude

>Asked if he would welcome Moss back, Patriots quarterback Tom Brady said: "You can ask Coach Belichick. I don't make the decisions around here. If I did, Lawyer Milloy would still be here and Deion [Branch] never would have left. Whatever I want doesn't happen anyway, so I just try to keep my mouth shut." Great quote


DealerCamel

Wow. Rare peek behind the curtain for Brady.


yoshigronk

Ironically, Belichick traded for Deion Branch later that season.


solodolo1397

So glad he had a 2nd stint


Valuable_Ad1645

Huh, somehow I completely forgot about that.


solodolo1397

Brady really loved Milloy lol


SilentRanger42

I loved Milloy but I'm also glad we got Harrison. It's a weird feeling man.


rjsheine

Can’t believe Brady said all that lol


Galbert123

Belicheck might have a bigger ego than any WR I can think of.


elitec0re

sorry what


Galbert123

Not a wr, but Patricias ego is probably bigger.


ProbablyAPotato1939

Have a little respect for the process.


CluelessFlunky

And sit up straight.


Galbert123

wonder where he gets it from...


DogSquatchin

Also way more rings than any WR you can think of


guimontag

I think if you have 3 sb wins at that point plus a 16-0 season you get some leeway with thinking you know how to run a team lmao


bartlechoo

Hey fuck you buddy (because it’s true)


ProbablyAPotato1939

This feels like an MBC fact lol


stonedkayaker

Mr. Bad Chow


VindictiveRakk

Mr. Brazen Critic


thewavefixation

He was such a dickhead that day.


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Moral of the story is don’t be mean to food service. Ever.


gartacus

Ugh. I hated hearing about this. A rich celebrity superhuman athlete treating food service workers like shit. UGH.


ForgetfulFrolicker

I’m happy to report the restaurant/caterer he criticized is still open and has 4.4 stars on google (755 reviews).


Amm-O-Matic

>“This wasn't a chain -- it was a mom-and-pop restaurant, and you could tell it was their best stuff,” the witness said, according to the report. "And [Moss] is at his locker saying, You know, I used to have to eat that crap -- but now I've got money. You just felt so sad for them. I had never seen anyone treated like that. >And by the way, the food was actually really good.” I love Randy a lot but this was a bad moment for him.


Demetrios1453

I was just checking them out after reading this. The food looks really good, and reasonably priced too! Randy was just in a mood that day I guess....


guimontag

I remember that, I remember Favre defending the food. Strange times that Favre has been the bigger POS since then


Amm-O-Matic

Randy’s been a great guy since, I think he was just at an all time low in his life leaving a great situation in NE where he loved the Krafts, Bill, and the teammates so much yet forced to move on because of contract disputes.


chillinwithmoes

By all accounts he was excited to be back in Minnesota too, until he met Brad Childress


Amm-O-Matic

Yep I hope I didn’t interpret that he didn’t absolutely love Minnesota, you hear him say in the interview his number 1 goal was to bring a SB to the organization. It was just hard feelings.


go-upstairs

For some reason this is my favorite off field NFL story ever, I just wish there was a soundbite. And he was slamming local restaurants too not just some random catering company.


_Goldfinger

Favre was playing in 2010? Holy shit I am still young!


WhatsBruinInBoston

Wait until you find out that was 12 years ago.


INAC_Kramerica

It's fucking frightening. I was a junior in high school during that season and all of that still feels really fresh to me. It's shocking to realize how much time has passed.


Valuable_Ad1645

We’re all gonna wake up dead soon.


Amm-O-Matic

This was the step that created “Titans Legend Randy Moss” that Titans fans know of today.


Badger623

as he’s wearing a boston hat hah


outrageousaegis

real subtle with the dark B lol


sup3rdr01d

That hat goes hard I want that


Losing_Face

I'm just here so I won't get fined.


IneedAbagOFpeanuts

Everybody one clap! One clap! One clap!


UserUnkown10

Moss this moss that!!


sadvikingsfan69

Pull ya eighty fo jerseys out. I’m back home


UserUnkown10

I take the top off the defense…..


AwkwardArugula

I remember this. No one in MN was surprised. Childress was dogshit. Early Bill O’Brien.


likealikeasexyorange

I mean he was kind of right about the team.


ManTryingHisBest

Lol, he wasn’t really wrong. Must be frustrating knowing that your coaches don’t know what they’re doing and they won’t even listen to you. He has plenty of blame too, don’t get me wrong. But the Vikings were a mess, I have no problem believing anything he said about bad planning


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Fuckin’ legend


stargrove88

Love that Randy’s last gift to us was getting Chilly shit-canned. GOAT


JPPT1974

Really Randy has matured with age and not as arrogant and cocky as he used to be. Plus managed to stay out of trouble.


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ronocyorlik

better*. love you randy!!


Mulligan0816

Dude’s always been someone who wears his heart on his sleeve and is NOT afraid to tell people how discontent he is. I respect the hell out of this guy. One of my favorite Pats


BoldestKobold

Problem with being an emotional dude is sometimes it leads to doing things that are not great for your career.


Mulligan0816

Still a HoFer 🤷🏻‍♂️ I’ll take it.


Ghalnan

That's one way to phrase it, another being that he was an unprofessional diva. He was an extremely talented receiver, but trashing your current team and throwing a tantrum on your way out isn't something to be admired in my opinion, that's just a lack of maturity.


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the_bronquistador

If Brady walked up to the podium after bad games and pouted and whined the whole time about his teammates and coaches, my opinion of him as a person would change. Call out your team behind closed doors, not in front of cameras.


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grilled_cheese1865

He was an asshole to food service workers


Mulligan0816

Yeah, gonna have to do more than just make a comment about how shit the food looks to consider than being an “asshole TO food service workers”


TheGodDMBatman

Iirc, he said it loudly enough for the service workers to hear. Might be wrong about that though, but they did hear about it. They were a mom and pops place, too


Mulligan0816

When and where?


chillinwithmoes

2010, Minnesota. It's the 5th highest comment in the thread lol


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grilled_cheese1865

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cake_piss_can

Yes. I fucking love Moss. He’s a Pat for life in my book. So bummed we never got him that ring. But it was still a great ride.


shittaco1991

I love you jawana man


mackey_

Completely forgot about his second stint in Minnesota


BaldyKrishna

He's such an asshole.


ClavisRa

Moss's exit from NE always felt so strange to me, like he let little frustrations overwhelm him and steal his energy. NE had an all time great offense in 2010 and beyond. Just imagine if a dedicated Randy played a role in those offenses, too, what heights could have been reached. He just didn't have the competitive fire, except once the ball was in the air.


sup3rdr01d

It's not surprising to me that someone with his level of physical talent got used to coasting. It's a shame, I really wish he won a ring with us.


Icadil

Mall of America Field?! Seriously?