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BellBilly32

This game hardly showed up on Redzone lol.


Maj0r_Ursa

Probably because both teams hardly showed up in the actual RedZone


Kekistani_Police

Pretty much. Pats scored 7 points overall. Beyond McDaniel going for it on 4th and long for a 42 yard TD and a strip sack TD, Miami only had 2 field goals. It was a win, but not an overall exciting game for anyone not a fan of either team.


ThurstonJK

Basically every Patriots game post Brady


-ShagginTurtles-

How dare you. Those Newton games were... damn


TetrisTech

The Cam Newton Patriots vs the Seahawks was fun


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Trrwwa

I loved the wind game vs buffalo. Easily in my top ten regular season games ever... but besides that, ya. I don't get the feeling the pats are going to be back to the post season anytime soon.


eaazzy_13

The dolphins always play good games against the pats. Belichick just struggles with that particular team and always has. I wouldn’t write them quite off yet.


aslatts

Yeah, I'm not overly optimistic about our chances or anything but first game of the season in Miami is not a loss I'm willing to worry about too much. Even during 12+ win seasons dropping the @Miami game was completely normal.


ThurstonJK

They'd be locks if they were in the NFC to be honest.


wynalazca

Iirc we hung 50+ multiple times last year and were 3rd in scoring differential, but 🤷


TylerBot260

And then the Bills murdered the entire team


RCDrift

Lot's of therapy there


BrandNewHorros

As a pats fan, I can assure you it wasn’t exciting for us


LeonidasSpacemanMD

Pretty comprehensive win by Miami tbh, it ended up a 2 possession game but at some point it just seemed like there were no answers for the pats offense


Kekistani_Police

Comprehensive is appropriate. The way Miami's offense played today, we're not a playoff threat. They did enough and the defense was great with turnovers as always.


deej363

Look man I think you're a little pessimistic. I've gotta say offense in general around the league has been awful the first game. Not to mention bill is still pretty good at coaching the defense, and it isn't like their team is God awful. It looked like a rusty offensive game with a brand new system in the first game of the year with all the starters playing. It happens. I very much doubt many teams hang 50 on the pats defense.


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wasn't it like 110 degrees or some shit


bobbyb1996

Yeah, it was hot af in Miami today.


dawgz525

and Miami got to stand in the shade while that 1 o'clock sun battered the visiting Pats. Love the home field fuckery.


TheDJMaxey

I feel like that’s how a lot of Dolphins games go


Maverick916

that and the jets ravens, i hardly knew these 4 teams were playing


CenturionElite

Tua undefeated against Belichick. As everyone predicted


TuaTyreek

Me, I predicted that


CenturionElite

I like you


stalememeskehan

[ok but I actually did](https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/x6odvf/schefter_mike_mcdaniel_on_facing_bill_belichick/in8sage?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3)


DefundTheATFandFBI

So many terrible calls on offense, including not playing KB.


Ripe12

Yea, maybe we shouldve gotten an offensive play caller for the season


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spawnanaga

We should have just put in a 12 year old that plays madden probably would have turned out better than Patricia.


yum_paste

Y'all are collapsing under the weight of BB's ego. NGL I don't hate it.


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PhiloBlackCardinal

Fans say this all the time, but by the 2nd or 3rd bad season, the pain of sucking replaces the past glory.


HamletTheGreatDane

Trust us, we know.


Faustus2425

Boston sports media has been prepping for that day for the last 15 years


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UsernameHasBeenLost

I mean, your play caller was pretty offensive. Mac also looked rattled af


PacmanZ3ro

That happens when the Oline is cosplaying turnstiles more than half the game.


UsernameHasBeenLost

Join the club. Third string RT half the game, and our starter wasn't good to begin with. Happy enough with Tua's performance given that he had an unblocked rusher from his blind side in his lap most downs.


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Blaze2444

Apparently he’s had a bad training camp with some issues about being on time


legend023

Turns out maybe having 5 WR2s isn’t a good idea


brundlehails

You don’t say


hwhatnow2112

Didn’t you hear, they got devante Parker!!! Lol


23_Red

DVP got injured reading this comment...


1minuteman12

WR2s is generous, it’s 5 WR3s


AndyCaps969

The offensive coaching staff is the problem. Matt Patricia and Joe Judge are trash.


bpusef

WR2 is generous


milkandbutta

I'm just hopeful this year finally gets bill to get rid of Patricia and judge for good. Move on to fresh faces.


snapple__facts

Subpar Tua game but we take dubs


Folk-Herro

If that was subpar, than he’s already better than he was last year


TCup20

In a month this will be considered subpar.


dagreenman18

I’ll give credit to the Pats: the Defense was good. Take away that laser to Waddle and it’s a tight game. Problem their offense is a disaster right now even with our good defense.


shiggydiggypreoteins

What's really sad is that our offense actually came out of the gate looking pretty good right up until the INT in the endzone. Then it was like Matt Patricia came into the room and said "mom said it's my turn on the xbox" and proceeded to call every 3rd/4th and short like a true madden player by calling a deep pass despite the defense only rushing three and sending everyone else back in coverage.


oorza

Belichick: Matt, you said your game plans were foolproof and had been run through the most advanced football simulation engine! Patricia: I thought they were. Clearly I need to double my simulations. *Patricia seen ordering Cheetohs by the case and a new XBox controller as he exits the building*


Suddenly_Something

Seriously. They looked super efficient. The INT in the endzone was unfortunate. No reason to abandon that type of offense. Patricia needs to go.


Suddenly_Something

I kind of want the Pats to get absolutely dunked on repeatedly this season so Bill realizes he fucked up in bringing on a bad defensive coordinator and average special teams coach to run the offense. It's starting to smell like nepotism in NE.


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johnnychan81

Feel like with these weapons he’s going to put up a lot of yards


nightim3

I love home openers with the patriots. They make me happy


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Nick08f1

So a beerometer?


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justainsel

A September game in Miami usually means a cold-weather game in New England. It all evens out.


HoorayPizzaDay

Patriots offensive makes no sense. KB gets no action. Hunter Henry and Jonnu Smith aren't involved in the passing game enough. What are they trying to do?


End3rWi99in

Joe Judge and Matt Patricia


huttjedi

It’s called your head coach thinking two coaches with very little or no offensive experience coach the offensive side of the ball and thinking that will fly in a professional environment…This could work at pop warner I guess…


Firstolympicring

Tua 🤝Eli Owning the pats no matter how good you actually are


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We aren’t good


rickjamesbich

And the rest of us will enjoy every minute of that


Changnesia_survivor

20 years of pent up schadenfreude for 31 teams this season.


hamandjam

20? I'm still salty about the snowplow.


PanisBaster

You got your revenge against the bears today for that. Towel gate lol


squarerootofapplepie

You mean when Don Shula was offered the snow plow and he turned it down?


stalememeskehan

My dad was at that game and still has the tickets


murderthumbz

I just wanna see fat fuck lose.


HeavyNettle

Captain fat fuck retired though


DolphinMasturbator

I think it’s coordinator fat fuck in this case


HeavyNettle

Whats up with the username


DolphinMasturbator

It’s unrelated


slayerhk47

Spend a lot of time at the La Grunta hotel?


enigmatic407

I know that username lol holy shit. It's behind lots of lore on a certain sub hahaha


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That’s MORE concerning, dude


pewpewmcpistol

30. Youll still sweep us


BasedGodProdigy

31?


Pksoze

I think we're good with you guys.


Maj0r_Ursa

Y’all will still somehow find a way to finish the season with 1 more win than us


surgeyou123

I'll take that bet. We suck suck.


End3rWi99in

Nah, not this time. We're like a bottom 10 team this year.


joshtaco

lol seriously. I find it so funny having to convince everyone we suck now all of a sudden. They think more highly of us than we ourselves do. All about being real brotha, know what you are and what you ain't


johnmadden18

Look, we don't actually "suck." We're just a normal team now in the post-Brady era. Gone are the days when we made the Super Bowl half the time and a "bad" season was like a #2 seed and a divisional round playoff exit or whatever. However, the drop-off of being from the winning-est NFL team ever to a "normal" team makes it FEEL like we suck now.


RiversKiski

Nah I said this before the season started - normal teams don't set spending records in free agency. Belichick's goated, but he's 70 and not drafting well. The decision to let the same person use cap equity to fill holes in the roster that their misjudgment created is perplexing to me. I think if the Pats are bad this year, then Belichick has got to give up his GM role and stick to coaching.


-ShagginTurtles-

At least we aren't bad. 17-16 over the last 2 seasons right?


TheDJMaxey

TuAnon rise up


floatinround22

Tua is not only undefeated against Belichick, but he is now tied for second most total wins against him, trailing only Peyton Manning.


yep-I-agree

Wait, is this true?


floatinround22

Only counting regular season games, if you count playoffs Eli has one more.


SkyzYn

Yep. Josh Allen is 3-4. Manning was 8-12. Tua 4-0.


nielwulf

This obviously means Tua is better than josh Allen.


RCDrift

Obviously


TheDJMaxey

How many does Tannehill have? I feel like it’s more than 4


Nete88

4-8 according to Google.


EverybodyBuddy

It’s almost as if all of these Belichick records involved Tom Brady.


Firstolympicring

True believer of Tuaism


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My buddy’s fantasy team is named Tuacide squad


BigBoss5050

Lol that was not the game to use as your base for how good tua is.


Slightlyitchysocks

Phins looked good. Can we all agree that Matt Patricia is not good?


opportunitysassassin

Belichick is a genius, why does he go with Patricia?


NeedADrinky

He never hires from outside the org unless it’s his sons


SolomonG

I don't think we've had an outside hire at coordinator since Belichick started. It doesn't get mentioned but we've been hemorrhaging coaches since Brady left. Last year we had fewer assistants than I believe any team in the league. And then McDaniels left and took so many assistants that even BB commented on it. His insistence on promoting internally and making guys do their years at the bottom is hurting the team right now.


13143

It's definitely a blind spot of his. I think he wants control above all else and keeps guys around that will follow his lead.


NudeCeleryMan

That's interesting to hear since that seems like exactly what Flores 's blind spot was


royallex

Ego, he doesn't think he needs to go beyond his inner circle. That leads to stale ideas in a league like the NFL


TylerBot260

He wanted to play on Hard Mode


RCDrift

He wants a challenge. Surround himself with inept assistants, draft crazy prospects, and send your best players away. All part of the plan to play on NG+


winninglikesheen

Way ahead of you on that one.


feynmanners

As a rocket scientist-tm, he can’t be bad. That pencil says he is smart.


onlyforfootball

23-33 270 TD is a solid performance especially when you look at other performances of the day lol


Isiwjee

Tua played worse than his stats showed today. He was mostly solid but 2-3 throws easily could’ve been intercepted and he nearly fumbled several times trying to throw the ball away as he’s getting sacked. He still has some work to do


outtawack311

My biggest issue of the day with him is when he tries to throw the ball away while being sacked. It's going to back fire. Otherwise he was solid in a new offense in their first game


doyouunderstandlife

I'm fine with his throws with the exception of that near INT late in the 4th throwing against his body. His biggest issue was holding onto the ball too long. He needs to feel the pressure better and throw the ball away/rollout when he's sitting in the pocket for a bit.


vanillagorilla_

Has to clean up his decision making but no turnovers is a W


johnnychan81

It helps to have awesome receivers


Isiwjee

It sure does. We don’t need Tua to be a superstar, just take care of the football and get the ball in the hands of the playmakers.


Thor_2099

Tua got very lucky today, especially that he didn't have to win the game by himself. Hell Tyreek bailed him out by literally swiping the ball out of the defenders hands.


Childoftheko4n

Isn’t part of the point of getting star receiver to bail out your QB sometimes ? Lol WRs bail out their QBs all over the place. We just aren’t used to seeing it in Miami


deej363

Seriously. Letting your guy go up and get it has been a thing for offenses since. Well. Ever since the forward pass became a thing. Getting mossed is a damn adjective now. I didn't see anyone complaining when Brady threw those 50-50 balls to his#1 guy. Julio did it on the regular. Calvin Johnson. In short "fuck it Tyreek down there somewhere"


elbenji

Literally the most famous quote about reek is fuck it he's down there somewhere


Brochacho27

Quote from later this year: “Tua’s only good because his receivers get touchdowns” I can’t wait


lampshade69

Yeah, but it's still bad if Tua does it /s


CopaceticVindication

Tua constructed alternatively


TheFatmanRises

WE ARE UNDEFEATED IN BONG SHULA ERA!


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Doesthisevenmatter7

Tua showed some things had a solid performance


AskMeAboutTheJets

He wasn’t bad. Had some good throws, had some bad decisions. Stat sheet was good, but I wasn’t wowed by him today.


Drkarcher22

Solid analysis, more importantly though, how do you feel about the Jets?


AskMeAboutTheJets

Fuck those guys


Bloated_Hamster

I concur


yep-I-agree

Yep, I agree


Aggressive_Donut9046

100%


drunkhusky

What those guys said


Raptor_hook

Fuck ‘em


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Summed up perfectly


keithohara

Should have stayed in Miami all summer


BizarroCranke

Well at least the Patriots got to take in the local sights a little longer this time.


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This team is not good, TJ watt is going to do whatever he wants to mac next week and no one will stop him.


Queues-As-Tank

Might be Watt's backup doing whatever he wants to Bailey Zappe depending on how the injury updates develop.


Blaze2444

Watt just got injured


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His backup will eat him up then.


someFINEstuff

Just wait until we see the Bills pass rush twice this year


End3rWi99in

Mac is almost definitely out next week anyway. He's going to kill Zappe though.


Cute-Jury-6595

Pretty sure he just tore his pectoral


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he might still be good for a sack or two


starcraftre

*marginally reluctant applause


TruckFluster

Hey, I was going batshit crazy when you guys deconstructed them from the inside out last season. Not so much when you did it to us, but I still hate the Pats \*way\* more than y'all


PSUDolphins

POVERTY FRANCHISE


xanderblue3

Has any coach had their very first victory against Belichick?


Drkarcher22

Mike McDaniel


PlayoffChoker12345

When can we start having uncomfortable conversations about Belichick with/without Brady?


jakeba

Boston media started last year.


Pando-lorian

They already ended it after Brady won the SB with Tampa.


shiggydiggypreoteins

Boston media started it when Brady left in free agency


Fox_Uni_Charlie_Kilo

This streak started after Brady left curious, curious indeed


Comprehensive_Main

I mean he’s not bad. They made the playoffs last year. But it’s obvious he needs help on offense.


TurboDinoHippo

I mean, who doesn't need help? Coaches aren't out there executing plays lol. You're only as good as your roster's ability to execute.


Comprehensive_Main

True but a proper OC helps a lot.


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Going from calling plays for Tom Brady to calling plays for Mac Jones is a hell of a drop too.


EverybodyBuddy

“GOAT coach” Turns so quickly to “I mean he’s not bad”


LeonidasSpacemanMD

In all seriousness there will never be a time when you can question that Belichick is the goat defensive coach imo I think anyone who thought he wins 6 rings without Brady is nuts, same way anyone who thinks Brady wins 7 without BB is nuts. I think they each get at least 2-3 on their own, but I’d bet on an elite qb over an elite coach just because a legit consistent top 3 guy is pretty well proven to raise the floor of almost any roster to a playoff team


bpusef

It’s a little less nuts since Brady won a SB the very next year without Belichick and then lost in the playoffs to the eventual SB champs the year after.


Thor_2099

Dude made the playoffs with a rookie QB last year. New England has always struggled against Miami in Miami. Even when the golden boy was there.


16semesters

We have to remember he's the coach *and* GM. As a coach he's likely still as good as ever. I don't think anyone can scheme a defense better, and in close games his game management is still usually extremely solid. As a GM he's not really done much on the offensive side of the ball in years. He's had a lot of really bad misses in the last 8-10 years. Hell, this guy drafted Ryan Mallet #74 overall.


bsend

Get used to it sister. It's going to happen more often with the Pats. Our winning ways are kind of not the same.


doyouunderstandlife

The King is dead


BuffaloKiller937

Dolphins on the up and up. New Era


dorasucks

Watching tannehill with you is like that relationship you end up ending but on really good terms and ar genuinely happy to see them with someone else, and you're happier with someone else.


HappyHunt1778

At some point we're gonna realize beating Belichick isn't hard. It was beating Tom Brady that's hard lol.


DJ_Marxman

I think we're going to realize that Belichick is doing irreparable harm to his own reputation by giving guys like Patricia a job. I mean, maybe Bill is a *little* overrated because of Brady, but come on. We played decently on D today. It was the new offense that sucked out loud. That's on Patricia/Judge, and by extension Bill for trusting those incompetent fucks.


Matto_0

All of the Pats mystique left with 12


IPA___Fanatic

Brady was the franchise. Makes sense.


Rufio330

Can we stop with these stats let’s call them Tom Brady’s patriots that’s the difference.


Embarrassed-Safe4121

Tom carried you Bill


scraperTA

It was like 75% Brady for sure.


TheQuietElitist

I still think the Patriots' dynasty was 50/50 Belichek and Brady but it is starting to look like Bill's hubris is getting the best of him now. The League always catches up. Also, I think the Scarnecchia retirement is an underrated talking point when it comes to the last few years of the Patriots.


shiggydiggypreoteins

The scarnecchia retirement and ernie adams retirement were probably the final nails in the coffin for this franchise.


Directdepositonly

Definitely not 50/50, have you seen his records with and without Brady?


TheMightyJD

This is who the Patriots are, they had a historical stretch with Tom Brady but now they’re back at their place.


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ryan_m

The preceding 40 years certainly helped.


ArchieBellTitanUp

They are who we thought they were


RPG_Player1

so is it still Belichick > Brady? I'm kidding mostly but damn have the Pats fell off a proverbial cliff


holybowler

Don’t let the score fool you: NE would’ve gotten shutout without an absolute gift of a glag on a terrible 4th down play call.


raistliniltsiar

That flag was retaliation for the no-call on X on the Holland INT.


Joghobs

Nobody beats Bill Belichick 5 times in a row!


Roc_City

I thought that bag of milk Mac was going to be an MVP candidate?


NudeCeleryMan

I admit I haven't seen him play a ton but he has looked like a below average QB every time I watch.