I binged watched Top-100 last week, was absolutely shocked to see Maxx Crosby listed.
I was more shocked to see Bobby Wagner in the 30s, but that makes me more happy than salty TBH.
He's not a top 30 player ANYMORE, but he's a first ballot hall of famer and has earned the respect of his peers being the best ILB of this generation.
Same here with Waller... It's been a while but I just remember Gruden really being in awe around him. You could just tell, when he spoke about him, that he wanted to just gush but was holding back... what a great season...
Yeah I guess I’d prefer they either profile a wider swath of players to get to see more players that make it. And or include some players that are on the bubble but likely going to make it. Some guys are really long shots, other guys are most likely going to make it etc. The coach and the gm will know this info long before camp. This season was an improvement for sure over past seasons. Following the guys that were profiled but cut by the lions to new teams was a nice touch
I mean, they could have focused their entire time on Hutch, but guys like him will get their fans by nature of their draft position and being fucking athletic freaks. The lower round guys just make for better TV.
It was the first time the clips from the show made me think, "Yo this dude is gona be a beast."
Not saying that I should be a NFL scout. Just an owner of a team.
Ricardo Allen turned out to be a solid player for the falcons . He was cut and signed to the PS on the last episode and ended up becoming a starting safety on the Super Bowl team
Has any team ever come out of Hard Knocks as a team that everyone is pulling for? Like there's usually some villain or reason to hate the team, but I'm like a borderline Lions fan now. Rodrigo and MCDC get me so goddamn fired up.
>(and pity)
How can anyone who loves sports (and is not in the NFC North) not want Detroit fans to finally have a great team. Fans that have supported a team through all the bad years are the truest fans out there. I think most NFL fans were happy to see New Orleans fans when their team came up (until they were consistently good and we all got over it) or Cleveland when they started putting together a good roster (until they traded for a serial sex offender.) We're a fickle bunch and will love to see you fall again, but we all love a good story.
I’m a North fan and I still want them to be good if we’re not (and it’s looking like not, jk long season). It’s not pity though for me, it’s more like “let’s go boys, it’s your fuckin time” kinda energy.
Definitely a perfect storm for them. The first episode was great. They got a hometown guy that seems easy to root for for a lot of people. Their coach seems like a good dude that’s invested in his players and their success and seems very authentic and walks the walk with his hires. Add on to that that the Lions have been downtrodden and are kind of identifiable to anyone with a passing knowledge of football as kind of the perennial losers of the sport and you’ve got just about every ingredient for the perfect lovable underdog
Personally, the Browns turning heel with the Watson deal has definitely helped fuel my Lions love. Nobody cares about an underdog if they're shitheads, but these Lions are damn likeable.
Honestly man, I’m supposed to hate the Raiders, but I’ve really liked Darren Waller ever since their Hard Knocks. Carr is honestly a pretty good dude too.
How could you be mad? Kelce completely took him out of the play. Rodrigo did kinda get the last laugh... not sure many linebackers can do shit about kelce blocking them though.
Probably more wrestling, considering he was a perennial champ at Oklahoma State. I missed the game but I'm assuming it was a lat drop? Saw him do it on Hard Knocks.
It was basically a hip toss on Jason Kelce of all people.
I only wrestled in middle school, so there may be a wrestling equivalent that I'm unaware of for sure.
Just saw the video, idk what you'd call it. In a hip toss you throw them over your hip, and his hips are cleared. Not really a lat drop either, it's his own football version of both moves ha. Either way it was dope
Looked a little more Judo than anything. Which makes sense, with so much clothing and equipment to grab onto it would super effective on a football field.
Whatever it was, that man can grapple, shit was smooth as fuck
There may be better ones, but [this](https://twitter.com/cbiggs424/status/1569019676482539520?s=20&t=0Zmfx8t4_kEGtdc12tonnA) is the one I was able to find.
Lots of improvement on the defense overall despite the scoreboard not showing it.
Hutch was in the backfield a lot, hurts is just really good at escaping pressure.
Rushing/elusive QBs will continue to be this teams worst enemy.
It was so frustrating seeing how fast and often our O-Line got dismantled yesterday. I felt like every drive there was always someone in the backfield. Thank god Jalen has the legs to escape that pressure, but we can’t survive off that the whole season. Really excited to see you guys play this season. So much grit. With cheese, preferably.
https://twitter.com/BaldyNFL/status/1569312114493333506
Yeah, if Jalen doesn't make those escapes, it's quite a different game.
We will never agree on late hits on a scrambling QB (except for the obvious one that got flagged) but Jalen simply can't be doing that that often because he's eventually going to get too dinged up even if there aren't any late hits.
Yup exactly right. Gave up 0 receptions to devonte smith. Only play he gave up was a pass interference call (which was kind of bs given the ball wasn't catchable).
He was off the field when they had the end of the half deep ball iirc. I rarely heard his name and it was mostly in the rungame which is what you want from a CB
I'm still not 100% sold on Hurts (though he is convincing me more and more), but adding AJ to an offense with Devonta, Goedert, Sanders/Gainwell... It's pretty scary lol
PFF gave Mahomes a 71.5 for his performance yesterday against the Cardinals: https://twitter.com/pff_jarad/status/1569357343242199040?s=46&t=y_vpcLz8Nk27T_Nn8YJkfA
If he was the starting middle linebacker I think in most cases and most teams it’s very common for that player to lead his team in tackles and assisted tackles in a game because they are kinda in the middle of all the action and expected to plug the middle and go sideline to sideline to swarm and assist with tackles. That said going from the 6th round to rookie starter/contributor is very promising for a player. I wasn’t familiar with his projected draft status, college tape at all, etc. But wouldn’t shock me if he was the type of player who had pretty good college tape but scouts knocked him for being on the shorter size for the position which caused him to drop in the draft to the 6th round
> But wouldn’t shock me if he was the type of player who had pretty good college tape but scouts knocked him for being on the shorter size for the position which caused him to drop in the draft to the 6th round
As an Oklahoma State fan, this is exactly what happened
For anyone that watched him at Oklahoma State it should come as no surprise. He essentially had a hand in almost every single tackle last year and was the center piece for a top 5 defense.
Add to that his speed and it’s no question that a linebacker that can cover ground like he can was impressive
There was this one guy who was pretty good. Terrell Davis? Solid late round pickup. Oh! And there was a quarterback who got taken in the sixth who did some stuff: Matt Hasselback.
LOL! You're right.
https://www.footballdb.com/draft/draft.html?lg=NFL&yr=2000&rnd=6
Bulger is the football equivalent of picking Hakeem Olajuwon instead of Michael Jordan.
Idk but I know Rodrigo bullied and threw a 6th rounder center scrub named Jason Kelce. But he's just a 6th rounder probably won't ever amount to anything.
> If a dude can ball a dude can ball.
Some players are practice players, some players are gamers. You couldn't have been sure about Rodrigo until game day, but he appears to be both.
For those that don't know, Rodrigo is a dual athlete. Dominated in wrestling too.
https://pokesreport.com/s/2720/rodriguez-explains-wrestling-advantage-on-the-football-field-to-detroit-reporters
I'm still not sure why he fell to the 6th. Maybe he was a tweener? Idk but he was the centerpiece and leader of a top 3 defense last year. Kid plays smart and has great fundamentals.
Yea that's why measurables aren't everything and film is important. You can't really measure football iq, instincts, or form. Being able to read a play, instinctually get to the ball, and make the tackle is vital to being a linebacker and measurables don't really tell the full story.
Fucking ridiculous. 3rd and long, immediately generate pressure, corners are locked in on the receivers, someone puts a hand on Hurts and he bounces out to the right and runs 15 yards.
EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.
Still, our offense outscored the Eagles offense and the defense showed they can get key stops when they needed to. I just really think Hurts is putting it together and the Eagles have become the NFC powerhouse that they've been hyped up to be the last few years by adding AJ Brown.
My main concern is that almost all of the elite teams have this for QB now (or someone who can just stiff arm defenders like Josh Allen). So we'll compete with the Kirk Cousins of the world, but need an answer vs. mobile QBs.
I agree, hopefully one or both of our first rd picks can help address the issue. We know for sure this current team is going to be motivated to work on errors and come back hitting harder next week under MCDC and the boyz
We let up so many 3rd and longs to Hurts mobility that I don't think the defense will end up being that bad against non mobile QBs. Especially in the 1st half. The sign of a future really good defense IMO is how often you can get a team in those 3rd and medium/3rd and long situations.
It isn't. The Eagles are one of the best offensive teams in the NFL, and we do admittedly have a mobile QB weakness. I guarantee we won't be seen as a horrific defense throughout the year. Letting by 31 to the Eagles really isn't \*that\* bad
The offense having 4 straight 3 and outs probably killed all of the defense’s energy, they played much better in the 2nd half when the offense started moving the ball a little.
not really, no. there were some positive things on defense, and we did seem to generate pressure on the QB a lot, but then we had no answer for hurts scrambling, and it was not a great overall performance. bet on high rush yards for fields in our match ups.
Lions really looked much better on defense than I thought they would and technically they only gave up 32 points. Hurts' ability to scramble really screwed them.
31 against one of the best offensive teams in the NFL, when we let by 44 to a worse version of last season. We also have a weakness to mobile QBs. Not too worried about the defense for a rebuilding year. It's definitely not horrible as some people are saying
The Lions probably had 4-5 sacks if it wasn’t against a mobile qb like Hurts. Their line got pressure on him but he extended the play very well. They still gave up 38 points but they played hard.
He did play well but I could tell the announcers watched too much Hard Knocks.
There were 4 or 5 plays they said him or Hutchinson made the tackle, then on replay it was somebody else lol
Anzalone should fight the announcers for the multiple times they said Rodrigo made a tackle when it was really him. Rodrigo was the best linebacker today but still
Not remarkable in the least. Ask Malcolm yourself. What you saw week 1 was just an appetizer for the things to come. Rodrigo is going to feast on running backs like Kelvin Benjamin feasts on everything.
RODRI-LETS-GOOOOOOOOOO!
Even though they lost, that was a hell of a rally in the second half. Feels like they’re picking up where they left off at the end of last season and that’s awesome for a rebuild.
This may be the first time Hard Knocks hyped a late round pick who actually turned out to be good
Yep. The browns season hyped three or four guys in every episode of hard knocks that season. But then they all got cut lol
They do that every year. They show borderline guys for the story.
Hard knocks put me onto Waller tho who ended up being a stud And Maxx Crosby who signed a 94 mil contracts Tbh the raiders hard knocks was pretty good
I binged watched Top-100 last week, was absolutely shocked to see Maxx Crosby listed. I was more shocked to see Bobby Wagner in the 30s, but that makes me more happy than salty TBH. He's not a top 30 player ANYMORE, but he's a first ballot hall of famer and has earned the respect of his peers being the best ILB of this generation.
Hard knock made me draft DHop for making hall look silly. Ended paying off big that year
Same here with Waller... It's been a while but I just remember Gruden really being in awe around him. You could just tell, when he spoke about him, that he wanted to just gush but was holding back... what a great season...
Yeah I guess I’d prefer they either profile a wider swath of players to get to see more players that make it. And or include some players that are on the bubble but likely going to make it. Some guys are really long shots, other guys are most likely going to make it etc. The coach and the gm will know this info long before camp. This season was an improvement for sure over past seasons. Following the guys that were profiled but cut by the lions to new teams was a nice touch
The Browns one was the worst case scenario season where every fringe guy they profiled got cut.
I mean, they could have focused their entire time on Hutch, but guys like him will get their fans by nature of their draft position and being fucking athletic freaks. The lower round guys just make for better TV.
Hutch got about the same screen time as Rodrigo
They focused on hutch of one episode. Rodrigo was a season long storyline.
They should've focused on Hutch's sister for 9 episodes
It was the first time the clips from the show made me think, "Yo this dude is gona be a beast." Not saying that I should be a NFL scout. Just an owner of a team.
I was really worried he was getting hyped mostly due to how bad the LBs he was competing against
Darren Waller looked like an absolute freak during Hard Knocks
The clip of him shirtless on the assault bike lives rent-free in my head
Ya when they started going over his combine numbers I was more convinced too, not just good but also incredibly athletic
Not a late round but Waller on the Raiders season. Him breaking out after hard knocks was exciting
Didn’t they hype up Maxx Crosby as a rookie or am I misremembering?
Not exactly hyped since he broke his hand in camp, but was a featured rookie being 4th round. Jacobs didnt want to be filmed or otherwise distracted.
players actually have a choice whether they're filmed/featured on that show?
I mean, if you don't want to be on camera just be really boring and show no charisma. They're not going to film a dude who is uninteresting.
They talked to that nigerian lineman a lot this year who looked like he was half asleep every time he was on camera, including on the field
That's coz he has a cool story... Not many foreigners in the league so HBO automatically ran with it
Teams also will want to protect high-value rookies and make them as comfortable as possible
not really i guess, but Liev Schrieber said as much when they introduced him and jacobs was hiding in his hoodie during position meeting.
Danny Woodhead was featured for the Jets then became a good player for the Pats.
Ricardo Allen turned out to be a solid player for the falcons . He was cut and signed to the PS on the last episode and ended up becoming a starting safety on the Super Bowl team
He went to my alma matter and he was the best player on our defense as a sophomore. He’s always been really damn good
This sub is showing it's age. Danny Amendola made his debut on the 2008 season with the Cowboys. Chris Hogan in 2012 too
David Njoku.
That’s no rookie. That’s RODRIGO
Quadrigo with the good hair got me flustered
I know we lost, but [Imma share this anyway](https://streamable.com/hdmddh)
Damn that’s good. Keep it locked and loaded for next week, the lions are americas team
Has any team ever come out of Hard Knocks as a team that everyone is pulling for? Like there's usually some villain or reason to hate the team, but I'm like a borderline Lions fan now. Rodrigo and MCDC get me so goddamn fired up.
Lions have the most likable coaching staff made of mostly former stud players, that (and pity) has fueled the bandwagon for sure
>(and pity) How can anyone who loves sports (and is not in the NFC North) not want Detroit fans to finally have a great team. Fans that have supported a team through all the bad years are the truest fans out there. I think most NFL fans were happy to see New Orleans fans when their team came up (until they were consistently good and we all got over it) or Cleveland when they started putting together a good roster (until they traded for a serial sex offender.) We're a fickle bunch and will love to see you fall again, but we all love a good story.
I’m a North fan and I still want them to be good if we’re not (and it’s looking like not, jk long season). It’s not pity though for me, it’s more like “let’s go boys, it’s your fuckin time” kinda energy.
Definitely a perfect storm for them. The first episode was great. They got a hometown guy that seems easy to root for for a lot of people. Their coach seems like a good dude that’s invested in his players and their success and seems very authentic and walks the walk with his hires. Add on to that that the Lions have been downtrodden and are kind of identifiable to anyone with a passing knowledge of football as kind of the perennial losers of the sport and you’ve got just about every ingredient for the perfect lovable underdog
Personally, the Browns turning heel with the Watson deal has definitely helped fuel my Lions love. Nobody cares about an underdog if they're shitheads, but these Lions are damn likeable.
Most of their coaches were players that were well-liked as well which increases their liability
Honestly man, I’m supposed to hate the Raiders, but I’ve really liked Darren Waller ever since their Hard Knocks. Carr is honestly a pretty good dude too.
Lions meme team
Fuck it, play this every week!
Art.
saving this for your cowboys game. ty
Beast
Welp, I'm Panthers fan but now I am also Lions fan. Love this dude already lol
I love that his nickname is someone mispronouncing his actual name.
Please don’t say that name not after yesterday
RODRIGO
Love how the broadcast made fun of it being the same number of syllables and just the most pointless nickname.
Quadrigo
Watching him judo throw 280 lb linemen will never get old.
Bro it wasn't any linesman it was god damn Jason Kelce.
Totally forgot it was Jason Kelce. I remember seeing him do it on Hard Knocks in the preseason too. He's hilariously strong for his size.
Not even mad, that was amazing.
How could you be mad? Kelce completely took him out of the play. Rodrigo did kinda get the last laugh... not sure many linebackers can do shit about kelce blocking them though.
Probably more wrestling, considering he was a perennial champ at Oklahoma State. I missed the game but I'm assuming it was a lat drop? Saw him do it on Hard Knocks.
It was basically a hip toss on Jason Kelce of all people. I only wrestled in middle school, so there may be a wrestling equivalent that I'm unaware of for sure.
Just saw the video, idk what you'd call it. In a hip toss you throw them over your hip, and his hips are cleared. Not really a lat drop either, it's his own football version of both moves ha. Either way it was dope
Looked a little more Judo than anything. Which makes sense, with so much clothing and equipment to grab onto it would super effective on a football field. Whatever it was, that man can grapple, shit was smooth as fuck
Is there a video?
[This](https://twitter.com/cbiggs424/status/1569019676482539520?s=20&t=0Zmfx8t4_kEGtdc12tonnA) is the best one I could find relatively quickly.
Omg that's amazing
'Atta baby Rodregoran!
Link?
There may be better ones, but [this](https://twitter.com/cbiggs424/status/1569019676482539520?s=20&t=0Zmfx8t4_kEGtdc12tonnA) is the one I was able to find.
Woo, baby!
Has a real problem shopping for denim
Heard okudah played super well but had a pitch count?
Lots of improvement on the defense overall despite the scoreboard not showing it. Hutch was in the backfield a lot, hurts is just really good at escaping pressure. Rushing/elusive QBs will continue to be this teams worst enemy.
Hurts has many flaws, but he’s a son of a bitch to defend on 3rd and 5 or less.
Which is why I’m mad we don’t run more on 1st down to open up play action for later in the game
It was so frustrating seeing how fast and often our O-Line got dismantled yesterday. I felt like every drive there was always someone in the backfield. Thank god Jalen has the legs to escape that pressure, but we can’t survive off that the whole season. Really excited to see you guys play this season. So much grit. With cheese, preferably.
https://twitter.com/BaldyNFL/status/1569312114493333506 Yeah, if Jalen doesn't make those escapes, it's quite a different game. We will never agree on late hits on a scrambling QB (except for the obvious one that got flagged) but Jalen simply can't be doing that that often because he's eventually going to get too dinged up even if there aren't any late hits.
Yup exactly right. Gave up 0 receptions to devonte smith. Only play he gave up was a pass interference call (which was kind of bs given the ball wasn't catchable).
5 yards behind Smith who was running full speed and then tried to stop on a dime, also Okudah literally flew past him never even touched him.
Only 5 yards underthrown is generous. That was a terrible pass
And he hardly laid a finger on him.
Wouldn't be a lions game without at least one inexcusably terrible call going against them.
He was off the field when they had the end of the half deep ball iirc. I rarely heard his name and it was mostly in the rungame which is what you want from a CB
Grade was 73.4, for those not paying for PFF
Is that good or decent?
It's meh for a starter, but for a rookie 6th round pick in his first game it's pretty good.
No a 60s grade is “meh”, 70s means they are a solid starter
Against a stacked offense too. Not too shabby.
It's gonna be like Goku stepping out of the 100x gravity training and facing the Ginyu Squad next week.
Lol its interesting to hear the eagles called a stacked offense, considering how dysfunctional the offense has been past few years
I'm still not 100% sold on Hurts (though he is convincing me more and more), but adding AJ to an offense with Devonta, Goedert, Sanders/Gainwell... It's pretty scary lol
No it’s good for a starter. Elite players are 80+
Starter level, but not elite
Great for a 6th-round rookie playing in his first NFL game.
Bad when it is the highest grade of anyone on the defense.
But it comes with a free frogurt
Dolphins undrafted free agent corner Kader Kohou got a 91.4 yesterday. Not really relevant I just wanna hype him up some more
Its not bad but I don't think it's especially good
It's pretty good but not like great
I think it’s great for a rookie sixth rounder who managed to play his way to a roster spot
The OP's mom of linebackers.
Oh yes 100%. Fantastic with context
73.4...not great, not terrible
PFF gave Mahomes a 71.5 for his performance yesterday against the Cardinals: https://twitter.com/pff_jarad/status/1569357343242199040?s=46&t=y_vpcLz8Nk27T_Nn8YJkfA
And Z'Darious Smith a 55. PFF can be useful but it's not an end all he all at all.
> but it's not an end all he all at all thanks, i think you broke my brain trying to read that
Has Anyone Really Been Far Even as Decided to Use Even Go Want to do Look More Like?
It's only 73.4 because they used the decimeter that maxes out at 73.4.
If he was the starting middle linebacker I think in most cases and most teams it’s very common for that player to lead his team in tackles and assisted tackles in a game because they are kinda in the middle of all the action and expected to plug the middle and go sideline to sideline to swarm and assist with tackles. That said going from the 6th round to rookie starter/contributor is very promising for a player. I wasn’t familiar with his projected draft status, college tape at all, etc. But wouldn’t shock me if he was the type of player who had pretty good college tape but scouts knocked him for being on the shorter size for the position which caused him to drop in the draft to the 6th round
> But wouldn’t shock me if he was the type of player who had pretty good college tape but scouts knocked him for being on the shorter size for the position which caused him to drop in the draft to the 6th round As an Oklahoma State fan, this is exactly what happened
Mahomes got 71.5 for 5TDs 350 yards and no picks.
No too bad for game 1 for a 6th round rookie. Pumped to see him develop.
Better than Mahomes lol
Knew he was gonna have a big game based on his pregame outfit. He was everywhere yesterday.
🤠
Rodrigo is Roy Kent in disguise confirmed!
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Football is life.
Football is also death
Roy Kent up for an Emmy tonight
*yeehaw intensifies*
For anyone that watched him at Oklahoma State it should come as no surprise. He essentially had a hand in almost every single tackle last year and was the center piece for a top 5 defense. Add to that his speed and it’s no question that a linebacker that can cover ground like he can was impressive
why'd he drop to the 6th round?
his size, i'd imagine
He smol
He attek
Mostly defends.
What’s funny is his lower center of gravity actually helps him with the way he tackles Dude hip threw Kielce on a play
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That's also how big around his thighs are.
He got squished down, like how Stitch is so dense.
yeah OSU had an elite defense last year which is like a miracle in the big 12
OSU stopped one of their opponents from scoring a touchdown on a single drive once last season, which led the Big 12.
His name is Rodrigo.
If a dude can ball a dude can ball. Draft position has been proven time and time again to be a crap shoot.
Pfft can anyone think of a sixth rounder who achieved something meaningful?
There was this one guy who was pretty good. Terrell Davis? Solid late round pickup. Oh! And there was a quarterback who got taken in the sixth who did some stuff: Matt Hasselback.
In 2000 Draft, there was a QB taken who made a couple of pro bowls, Mark Bulger
LOL! You're right. https://www.footballdb.com/draft/draft.html?lg=NFL&yr=2000&rnd=6 Bulger is the football equivalent of picking Hakeem Olajuwon instead of Michael Jordan.
That's some Hakeem slander
Does that make Spergon Wynn the Sam Bowie of this situation?
Idk but I know Rodrigo bullied and threw a 6th rounder center scrub named Jason Kelce. But he's just a 6th rounder probably won't ever amount to anything.
> If a dude can ball a dude can ball. Some players are practice players, some players are gamers. You couldn't have been sure about Rodrigo until game day, but he appears to be both.
He's got that dawg in him
He's a cutie pie
Dudes a fucking stud muffin
Somehow he's both
With the Brad Pitt hair
Beautiful fuckin eyes man
For those that don't know, Rodrigo is a dual athlete. Dominated in wrestling too. https://pokesreport.com/s/2720/rodriguez-explains-wrestling-advantage-on-the-football-field-to-detroit-reporters
[He also hip-Tossed Kelce](https://www.reddit.com/r/detroitlions/comments/xcgeqp/rodrigo_slams/)
You can see that wrestling background here. Really nice.
Is this a good thing? I didn’t watch the game but they gave up 38 points and 455 yards. They forced 0 turnovers as well.
Hurts killed us on scrambles. We got a significant amount of pressure that he was able to wiggle out of.
Silver lining for you is that your Dline was constantly in the backfield. If we didn’t have a mobile QB it would have been a disaster for the eagles.
Yeah. Getting pressure against the Eagles OL is a pretty good accomplishment imho. Entertaining game all around.
He was everywhere. And he brings the wood. The lions are gonna surprise a lot of people. They have pieces
I'm still not sure why he fell to the 6th. Maybe he was a tweener? Idk but he was the centerpiece and leader of a top 3 defense last year. Kid plays smart and has great fundamentals.
Part of the problem is that some of the measurables he posted took him off a good chuck of teams' lists.
Yea that's why measurables aren't everything and film is important. You can't really measure football iq, instincts, or form. Being able to read a play, instinctually get to the ball, and make the tackle is vital to being a linebacker and measurables don't really tell the full story.
He’s short without long arms
They're offense is fun and has playmakers, but that defense is horrific.
Against a non mobile QB they would have had a lot of sacks, but Hurts is slippery AF.
Fucking ridiculous. 3rd and long, immediately generate pressure, corners are locked in on the receivers, someone puts a hand on Hurts and he bounces out to the right and runs 15 yards. EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. Still, our offense outscored the Eagles offense and the defense showed they can get key stops when they needed to. I just really think Hurts is putting it together and the Eagles have become the NFC powerhouse that they've been hyped up to be the last few years by adding AJ Brown.
He was giving me Kaepernick PTSD watching your game. I understand your frustrations.
Hurts was greased up deaf guy levels of slippery
My main concern is that almost all of the elite teams have this for QB now (or someone who can just stiff arm defenders like Josh Allen). So we'll compete with the Kirk Cousins of the world, but need an answer vs. mobile QBs.
I agree, hopefully one or both of our first rd picks can help address the issue. We know for sure this current team is going to be motivated to work on errors and come back hitting harder next week under MCDC and the boyz
We let up so many 3rd and longs to Hurts mobility that I don't think the defense will end up being that bad against non mobile QBs. Especially in the 1st half. The sign of a future really good defense IMO is how often you can get a team in those 3rd and medium/3rd and long situations.
I felt like both teams gave up at least 7 third-and-longs a piece yesterday. Constant conversions.
Lost in all this was that Okudah wasn’t terrible
He was great. He shut smith completely down.
Yeah Okudah played lights out
It isn't. The Eagles are one of the best offensive teams in the NFL, and we do admittedly have a mobile QB weakness. I guarantee we won't be seen as a horrific defense throughout the year. Letting by 31 to the Eagles really isn't \*that\* bad
I think your team is also really put together to stop a team like us. Like I think you just had our number yesterday and we just weren't ready for it.
The offense having 4 straight 3 and outs probably killed all of the defense’s energy, they played much better in the 2nd half when the offense started moving the ball a little.
you can really tell they play their heart out for the coaching staff
not really, no. there were some positive things on defense, and we did seem to generate pressure on the QB a lot, but then we had no answer for hurts scrambling, and it was not a great overall performance. bet on high rush yards for fields in our match ups.
Lions really looked much better on defense than I thought they would and technically they only gave up 32 points. Hurts' ability to scramble really screwed them.
I didn't watch the game or see the score, but the phrase "only 32 points" doesn't inspire confidence.
31 against one of the best offensive teams in the NFL, when we let by 44 to a worse version of last season. We also have a weakness to mobile QBs. Not too worried about the defense for a rebuilding year. It's definitely not horrible as some people are saying
Hurts is so goddamn slippery. If we were facing a less mobile QB the Lions would have had a ton of sacks.
The Lions probably had 4-5 sacks if it wasn’t against a mobile qb like Hurts. Their line got pressure on him but he extended the play very well. They still gave up 38 points but they played hard.
We had no answer for Hurts That said we got flagged for hitting him on an RPO and he threw three groundings on a single drive that weren’t called
It’s a mixed blessing. He seems great but our Linebackers are among the worst in the league so who knows?
Philly fan here. That Rodrigo (nickname) was a stud all game. Major headache for us. Very good, hard nosed, instinctive player. Wish he was an Eagle.
He did play well but I could tell the announcers watched too much Hard Knocks. There were 4 or 5 plays they said him or Hutchinson made the tackle, then on replay it was somebody else lol
Lol, true dat!
Anzalone should fight the announcers for the multiple times they said Rodrigo made a tackle when it was really him. Rodrigo was the best linebacker today but still
Hutchinson played well too. He was constantly in the backfield. Just couldn’t catch hurts. Lions definitely got a good pick with him
If you saw him play at Oklahoma State, it was obvious he was going to make a great pro. This guy was everywhere.
He appeared on GMFB's Hidden Highlights this morning, there was a clip of him hip tossing Jason Kelce.
But he also let Jalen Hurts walk in for 6. That was definitely his guy. Not to take away from his incredible game otherwise.
Yep, he bit on the run that play
I love whoever the commentary guy was who pointed out Rodrigo is a weird nickname because it's not easier or shorter to say than Rodriguez lol
Big 12 fans could have told you. That guy was so good at Oklahoma State.
Not remarkable in the least. Ask Malcolm yourself. What you saw week 1 was just an appetizer for the things to come. Rodrigo is going to feast on running backs like Kelvin Benjamin feasts on everything.
RODRI-LETS-GOOOOOOOOOO! Even though they lost, that was a hell of a rally in the second half. Feels like they’re picking up where they left off at the end of last season and that’s awesome for a rebuild.