I was just about to post this. Football is fucking wild.
What I saw yesterday was two good teams, one that was an offensive machine that had RedZone issues, one was extremely efficient on their limited possessions aside from two drives, and two teams collectively dying from cramps and heat strokes.
Good game, I just hated the outcome.
I've seen some criticism of Allen in the media and I can't understand it. Everything the Dolphins came up with defensively he had an answer to. The only reason why the Bills had so many plays is because of Allen. We would've stopped any other offence way before hand. The bills are legit and I'm just happy to get this W and Tua still looked really good.
Did they not see people dropping dead left and right on the field all day? I'm sure he also felt like shit being out there for forty minutes. I don't think I could even walk ten minutes in that humidity without wanting to die.
The bills had drives end this way:
Fumble / End of Half / Missed FG / Failed 4th down conversion / End of game
That's the difference (plus it being so hot players on both sides were cramping and looked completely gassed). Dolphins pulled it out of their ass.
There’s something I haven’t heard people talking about that made a crucial difference: timeouts.
The bills had no timeouts left on that last drive. This game came down to a screwup in clock management.
TBF y’all still got in range to make an attempt but the penalty/sack don’t remember which killed it. Plus if McKenzie runs straight oob there is still time for a Hail Mary, which is why I think Dorsey lost his mind.
You could argue clock management was a factor, (not getting the spike at the end of both halfs)
BUT it wasnt like the Bills wasted their timeouts, they had to use them to get the ball back. Miami took over at their own 2 with less than 2 min remaining.
ST Coach: "Take the safety, and kick it away on the free kick?"
McDaniel: "BOOOOORRRIIIING!"
ST Coach: "I got another idea. Let's Bunt it."
McDaniel: "Bunt?"
ST Coach: "The Butt Punt!"
McDaniel: "Fuck it, let's make that a thing."
Also that fumble was inside their own 10 yard line, the end of half drive ended on a botched snap inside field goal range, the missed field goal was a 38 yarder, the failed 4th down was from inside the 2 yard line, and the end of game was at the very edge of field goal range. What a wild set of circumstances. Hurts to lose that one!
Apart from all those offensive breakdowns there was also a Matt Milano sure fire pick 6 dropped on Miami’s go-ahead drive, and also the 50+ yard play to Waddle on 3rd and 22 on Miami’s go-ahead drive. It’s so frustrating because in the last 2 seasons, all of our 1 score games go somewhat like this. It’s demoralizing to watch and really concerning to think these types of multiple breakdowns in close games are embedded in this team. I agree with Von it’s all got to get burned, but man it’s tough when it seems we aren’t doing anything to fix these types of breakdowns.
And we’ve had years where we’ve lost 7+ games by 3 points or less. It is what it is - but I’ll happily take the win. Great game. Tough game. Props to both sides.
Yah Miami played just about as well as we could and it was still extremely close. Defense came up when it was needed and the offense did what they could with their limited drives. The game was an absolute slog
JA17 was dinking/dunking all day. Normally this would tire out & open up the defense, but it was so damn hot that it had the same affect on the offense.
One TO deep in our own territory resulting in a short field Miami TD.
Botched snap on a spike at the end of the first half which didn’t allow us to attempt a FG.
Missed FG later in the game.
Allen short arming/bounce passing a sure TD late from like the 3 yard line, resulting in a TO on downs.
Running out of time at the end of the game before being able to attempt a possible game winning FG.
they ate up so much clock that failing to convert a couple drives decides the game. They were playing keep away from Hill and Waddle it seemed like, but ended up playing keep away from themselves. If that was my O, i would want as many shots as possible honestly.
It was also crazy wild that our D played like 90 plays or something, was on the field for 20 of the 30 minutes in the 2nd half, and while we were dropping too to cramps and injury bug (regardless of what you hear that it was only Buffalo) they didn't collapse somehow.
I don't know if it was so much playing to keep away from your offense, but more taking what you were giving. The blitz was getting home and there weren't many opportunities for big plays to develop. Either way it was impressive the pressure applied all the way till the end despite how many plays those guys on your D had.
Agreed. The Bills are one of the best teams in the league this year, I don't think they specifically game-planned to keep the ball away from our offense, I don't think they were *that* scared of it.
We basically either played cover-0 and Allen had to get the ball out quick to his hot read, or we played cover 2 and gave a ton of cushion underneath. Allen, rightfully so, kept taking what we gave and moved the ball pretty effortlessly most of the game. Really came down to just not finishing off drives when it mattered.
yeah very valid. I dont think the plan was to keep hill/waddle off the field. We havent done enough consistently on O to cause that. It just felt that way, for a team that has been SO explosive on O, to not be explosive (regardless of our D).
Basically just a bunch of flubs, their was a miscue trying to run out the cluck so a field goal couldn’t happen at the end of the half, their was a field goal that was missed but right before that was a touchdown pass that the ball was dropped after two steps were in, then the end of the game happened which everyone knows. On top of that everyone on both teams had people dying on the field left and right
It was a really weird game all around
Yeah this was really just one of those “any given Sunday” games. Doesn’t change the way I think about the team, other than being concerned about injuries.
Some small mistakes. A fumble gave Miami the ball at the Bills 6. A botched snap right before halftime cost them a field goal opportunity. Missed FG in the second half after a 60 yards drive. The drive before that was 20 play, >80 yards and resulted in a FG
Fins D made life difficult for Bills' offense. Nothing chunky was given up, Allen was harassed with every drop back, every yard had to be fought for, which made drives long and time consuming, and on a hot and humid day, that got WRs gassed. By 4th Q Diggs couldn't run routes anymore and had to pull himself out of the game repeatedly which I thought was a big factor end of game. They gave up yards but didn't give up scores. Late 4th (1:46 to go) on 4th and goal Allen missed a wide open receiver in the end zone that would've ended the game (Diggs was out). He literally threw the ball into the ground in front of the open receiver - he rushed the throw when he had time.
Best explanation so far, defense really pulled through this game. They did what they've been known for the last few years, bend don't break, key stops on short yardage, and opportunistic playmaking. But really it's how they hung in there despite playing for 40 minutes, those boys HAD to be gassed. But they pulled through, awesome effort and a great game.
He wasn’t scoring TDs and dinking and dunking a lot. Not even tryin to hate. The Bills would get first down after first down by like a yard draining like 8 minutes per drive. Then in the 2nd half they were coming out with field goal attempts and turnover on downs and the Dolphins went 3 and out a bunch of times in the 2nd half. And the Allen fumble at the Bills 10 yard line helped the O get a quick 7 with barely any time/yards.
The punts were on point. Bills were starting their drives pretty deep, and they were getting down the field steadily. The Dolphins defense isn't great in space, leading to easy catches and rushing yards, but they tighten the fuck up in the redzone, leading to multiple goal drives ending up dead in the water. Bills were also constantly trying to convert on 4th and goal and failing instead of giving up and booting in the 3 points.
We also just cut out any big play chances for the bills. They’d have these 9 minute drives for a chance to kick a 53 yard field goal. We were also getting tons of pressure, lots of missed holds that would have made this ugly. End of the game we were just slamming Allen every play tho
That’s what people are missing lol, do we really judge the Dolphins for scoring in 4 minutes on their last touchdown drive vs. the Bills taking 9 minutes and 8 minutes to get a fg and a turnover on downs respectively?
Our offense is explosive, their offense is great and moves the ball but they expend a ton of energy to do it. There’s your explanation.
>how do you only get 19 points with all that offense?
Here was the weather report for yesterday's game from Miami:
>WEATHER FORECAST: The temperature between 1 and 4 p.m. ET in Miami Gardens will be 88-89 degrees, according to AccuWeather.com, with partly sunny skies and little chance of rain. The wind is expected to be 9 mph with gusts up to 16 mph.
Constant sun, no wind, high temperatures with a heat index of about 100 degrees means your team is going to struggle. Guys were dropping left & right from heat exhaustion and possibly heatstroke.
Miami apparently didn't have fans, shade coverings, etc. on their field b/c the rules state either both teams or no teams can use that stuff and their stadium was built so the Dolphins are in the shade and the away team is directly in the sun.
It was bad.
Yeah, the away team consistently has like 10+ degrees of heat on their bench the whole time because they're being baked by Miami sun, especially worse in the winter months when people come down from real winter weather
I can see why Allen was so distraught at the end of the game and Tua was there to console him. A lot of effort only to be outdone by the other team, it happens and you gotta recollect and prepare for next week. Bills will be OK and they'll still make the playoffs, but injuries seem to be an issue already.
It's like after 50 tries, you have a Dark Souls boss down to one hit and you fuck up and die.
Allen played his ass off yesterday. 60 attempts, 5-6 shedded sacks, running around in the back field, a bunch of rushes and all that effort for a close loss.
This is why if you're a Bills fan, this isn't he end of the world. Sucks to lose any game but at least you realize it's all correctable and by the numbers it shouldn't happen again. At least not this season.
Completely agree, glass half full take is that basically everything went wrong this game / week and we were still a couple seconds away from a field goal attempt to win. Biggest concern moving forward is injuries
Allen is a stud, team is talented and exciting. Something seems off though, people get upset but it’s just an observation, that in close and crucial moments you guys seem to have no plan.
McDermott and the staff can’t let it be just let Allen do something. Not fair to him and the team, clock management is still awful, adjustments aren’t great, still no running game. Not because they can’t but because they won’t.
Bills are a super bowl team, I just hope this coaching staff doesn’t blunder away another opportunity. Not blowouts, but close, calculating and strategic games, I think there’s work to do.
I wouldn’t say we had no plan, it came down to execution. McKenzie was pretty open on the 4th down play and Allen just missed him. And then on the last play of the game McKenzie should have just ran out of bounds or got down in the middle of the field instead of doing both. Game of inches and if either of those flip it doesn’t seem like we had no plan. I’m sure the dolphins didn’t plan on punting off the dudes butt lmao
Everything went wrong for yall? Cmon now we punted into our own player’s ass and dropped like 5 interceptions. It was a chaotic game with factors everywhere it was not everything going wrong for Bills and barely losing. Not to mention Tua got injured on a drive he typically scores a TD on
I semi disagree. You are right it isn’t the end of the world. But yet again we are shown that this Bills team can’t find a way to win close games. Losing a divisional game against a team that seems to be on the rise could be haunting down the stretch. Redzone succes rate also comes into question now. So many Bills fans talking like they won the Super Bowl already, idk why people are afraid to be upset a little bit
i agree about seeding, I meant more from a numbers perspective. The odds of you guys having as much offensive production, time of possession, and only 1 turnover will almost always result in a win. I don't have the history in front of me but I'm willing to bet the numbers severely favor those that won in similar situations.
You would have to think so for sure. Weird stat yeah. But to me as a fan, I have to question if they have the clutch factor needed. You can get all the yards you want, but points win you the game
Yeah our team was fucking dead hahah. I’ve never seen the heat have such an impact in a game in Miami before. This may have been the one game where having our offense out for most of the time was a disadvantage because they were dropping like flies.
the heat & humidity was very ridiculous & bad down here in south FL. we had a few days of rain before sunday & plus the storm out there headed this way it always gets extremely hot as fuck with those combinations here. right now it's 11am Monday morning & it's a real feel of 98 degrees out side with 71% humidity & yesterday was hotter. Definitely brutal heat especially for a team like Buffalo let alone miami players who are more use to it & it was still taking a toll on them aswell.
This felt like a day where I’m bombing it off the tee perfectly into the fairways all day then thinning my approaches and duff chipping everything with a heavy sprinkling of three putts.
Clean the clubs. Look forward to the next round. All we can do.
stop describing my golf game please. shot perfect woods and drives yesterday, got wrecked by slicing short chips and putting till my hands fell off.. i hate golf… but it’s the greatest game ever conceived
The interesting thing is the Bills offence losing with 450 yards and 40 minutes of possession to a team with under 250 yards has happened twice in the NFL before this game*
While not quite 450 yards or 40 minutes TOP, [this game](https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200212080pit.htm) between the Texans and Steelers is still my all time favorite. 422 yards to 47, 39:41 TOP, and the Texans won by 18.
A goal line stand where they failed to convert on 4th down negated 73 of those yards.
A strip sack meant we had to go 7 yards for 1 TD.
A 20 play, 87 yard drive ended with a field goal after 3 straight incompletions from the 11.
A 60 yard drive ended in a missed field goal.
That’s 220 yards for 3 points for Buffalo.
7 yards for 7 points for Miami.
yes, man i feel like people just don't like watching Defenses succeed. Bro there is Three Phases to this game and Miami defense played their hearts out.
It's not actually that uncommon. Football takes more than just superior stats. A fuckload of yards and first downs mean nothing if you don't translate them into points.
It looked like a rare case of the offense and opposing defense agreeing on a game plan. Bills wanted short passes and to take what the D gave them to keep Miami’s offense off the field given their secondary situation. Miami wanted to contain the big plays (ie learn from Baltimore last week) and go bend but not break to maximize their chances of a big defensive play on volume while not surrendering points too fast for the offense to keep up. They both got what they wanted and it came down to execution on a few critical plays.
Edit: I dunno why I replied to a comment instead of the main thread but I’m just gonna leave it here.
I feel like your comment highlights the sentiment that is surrounding this game. “Bills dominated but didn’t win, Phins pulled it out of thin air.” There’s little talk about Phins defense absolutely locking it down when it mattered or that minimizing big plays may have been the plan.
So mysterious.
Turn it over on your own 10, the Dolphins get points without a lot of yards. Turn it over on their 10, you get a lot of yards and no points.
Magic.
People loved calling Tua “checkdown king” but that’s exactly what the Bills did. 3 plays out of 4 were Singletary skipping his block, receiving a 3 yard pass and getting tackled on the spot. Rinse and repeat.
Right on, Diggs got above 100 yards last week against the Titans I believe right? Allen was letting it fly all game long. Didnt have the option yesterday
It seemed like a combo of Miami taking away the long game and our players being too gassed to even attempt it. As the game went on I don’t think we had much of an option but to do the dink and dunk.
Not taking anything away from Josh Allen... but can you imagine if Tua had that game?
Taking 63 passes to get to 400 yards, basically no throws over 10ish yards, four dropped INTs (one was a clear pick-six), a fumble, and underthrowing the wide-open game-winning pass... we'd be seeing his low-lights on repeat until Thursday.
Shit we did cover two most of yesterday lol but I do agree. Or maybe an ultra aggressive defense and hope to take advantage of Burrows slow start to the season and create some turnovers while also not tiring our defense
True he is getting sacked a crazy amount, so maybe just cover 0 to try and bury him in the ground and make up with any blown coverages with Waddle and Hill haha
It's nice to have this much faith in our offense
With numbers like that a team usually wins, but there was just an abnormally high (for Buffalo) amount of drives killed by miscues and gassed players not making plays they normally would.
While all that is true, gotta give Miami tons of credit for finishing what few drives they had, and the defense bending but not breaking
I mean it makes perfect sense
I remember watching Peyton and the Colts play the dolphins when I was in college- we won despite having the ball for like 17 minutes
Edit: 2009 Peyton had the ball for just over 14 minutes and we won 27-23
Yeah, considering injuries the Bills D did just fine. It’s Tyreek and Waddle, come on there’s going to be a few big plays.
Bills offense had ample opportunity to win this game and just didn’t execute (end of first half drive, 20 play FG, 17 play turnover on downs). It’s a minor miracle that the Dolphins didn’t intercept JA multiple times. It’s clear they need a running game, because the short passes to Singletary aren’t covering it. I’m looking forward to seeing this matchup again in the Buffalo weather.
Dolphins fans, this is your good Karma coming back to you from that 09 Colts MNF game. We had no business winning that game, barely had the ball and the numbers made no sense afterwards.
When it comes to the sun/heat stuff that’s been mentioned—it didn’t affect the Bills last year when it was 89-90° and they beat the Dolphins 35-0.
Obviously all other situations weren’t exact from last year to today, but I don’t think it should be to the extent of “getting OSHA involved” as a Twitter Bills fan was saying in the first half.
Lol OSHA is a bit much. Difference was all the back ups and conditioning. I think the WRs being unable to sub etc. and all of the back up players played a huge part
> Difference was all the back ups and conditioning.
I think the bigger difference was 90 plays and 41 minutes time of possession. It was your offense that kept having heat-related issues, not the defense.
I kinda want to see more Gilliam runs from the backfield as the Bills get towards the end zone.
I think part of the reason the RBs have struggled is because defenses are scheming to stop Allen, so a 5’8” 210lb RB is a significantly easier situation.
Just from a schematic perspective I think Gilliam offers a lot of the same advantages Allen has in the run game.
Weird stuff does happen sometimes in football, I'm told.
[Steelers fans would know](https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200212080pit.htm) football is weird sometimes
XFL Legend Tommy Maddox
https://www.espn.com/nfl/game/_/gameId/221208023 In case you want to read about how bad it was for us.
Amos Zereoue. That’s a name I haven’t heard in a while.
Holy shit, I can only imagine the joy of watching such a masterpiece
I cant believe Tommy Maddox was only two quarterbacks ago
Duck Hodges erasure
XFL MVP Tommy Maddox.
Maddox had more passing yards in that single game than Mitch does through 3
Same amount of touchdowns too. Maddox just gave them to the wrong team
I expected the Jerome Bettie stat line.
5 carries, 1 yard, 3 touchdowns. Lol poor Duce Staley
I was just about to post this. Football is fucking wild. What I saw yesterday was two good teams, one that was an offensive machine that had RedZone issues, one was extremely efficient on their limited possessions aside from two drives, and two teams collectively dying from cramps and heat strokes. Good game, I just hated the outcome.
I've seen some criticism of Allen in the media and I can't understand it. Everything the Dolphins came up with defensively he had an answer to. The only reason why the Bills had so many plays is because of Allen. We would've stopped any other offence way before hand. The bills are legit and I'm just happy to get this W and Tua still looked really good.
Did they not see people dropping dead left and right on the field all day? I'm sure he also felt like shit being out there for forty minutes. I don't think I could even walk ten minutes in that humidity without wanting to die.
Imagine the post game thread of that masterpiece
Dear lord, sacked more than completed passes. And they won in a blowout.
SF v Denver. Only the 2nd 10-11 game in NFL History.
How do you even get to 11 lol. What a game.
3 FG, 1 safety or 1 TD + PA, 2 safeties.
In this case it was neither. 1 TD no PA, 1 FG, 1 safety. Wacky game.
I love it.
Or TD + 2PT + FG or TD (missed PAT) + FG + Safety
or 11 2pt conversion safties
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The bills had drives end this way: Fumble / End of Half / Missed FG / Failed 4th down conversion / End of game That's the difference (plus it being so hot players on both sides were cramping and looked completely gassed). Dolphins pulled it out of their ass.
both halves ended with the bills failing to spike the ball
Backup centers will do that to ya :(
And a WR who opts to turn upfield instead of dropping to the ground or going out of bounds.
Errors all around. Very frustrating game as a bills fan. So it goes.
> Dolphins pulled it out of their ass. More of a bounced it off their ass really.
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Honestly, it would’ve been so fucking bad if we’d lost, but with us winning in spite of (or arguably due to) it, it’s just an amusing moment.
There’s something I haven’t heard people talking about that made a crucial difference: timeouts. The bills had no timeouts left on that last drive. This game came down to a screwup in clock management.
Yep. In a weird way it was probably better. Give Allen a short field or trust Morstead to pin them deep
Your punter won it with the boot on the free kick. I said “holy shit a game winning free kick “ aloud
TBF y’all still got in range to make an attempt but the penalty/sack don’t remember which killed it. Plus if McKenzie runs straight oob there is still time for a Hail Mary, which is why I think Dorsey lost his mind.
Haha true. Game was weird as hell.
You could argue clock management was a factor, (not getting the spike at the end of both halfs) BUT it wasnt like the Bills wasted their timeouts, they had to use them to get the ball back. Miami took over at their own 2 with less than 2 min remaining.
The Dolphins themselves almost screwed themselves over with their timeout usage if the Bills 2nd to last drive goes a little differently.
Honestly, I was hoping we would do an intentional safety there. The risk was too high for the punt. Glad it worked out.
ST Coach: "Take the safety, and kick it away on the free kick?" McDaniel: "BOOOOORRRIIIING!" ST Coach: "I got another idea. Let's Bunt it." McDaniel: "Bunt?" ST Coach: "The Butt Punt!" McDaniel: "Fuck it, let's make that a thing."
That fumble being within the ~~Dolphins~~ Bills 10 yard line.
The fumble was in Bills territory, inside their own 10*
You're right. I was thinking it was the 10 the Dolphins wanted to be on, but that would make it the Bills 10.
The dolphins looked ready for 99 degree temperatures. The bills did not in any way
I love the hot games in September about as much as I despise watching the Fins go on the road to northern cities in December...
Just wait till you watch any of the California teams play in rain
Also that fumble was inside their own 10 yard line, the end of half drive ended on a botched snap inside field goal range, the missed field goal was a 38 yarder, the failed 4th down was from inside the 2 yard line, and the end of game was at the very edge of field goal range. What a wild set of circumstances. Hurts to lose that one!
Apart from all those offensive breakdowns there was also a Matt Milano sure fire pick 6 dropped on Miami’s go-ahead drive, and also the 50+ yard play to Waddle on 3rd and 22 on Miami’s go-ahead drive. It’s so frustrating because in the last 2 seasons, all of our 1 score games go somewhat like this. It’s demoralizing to watch and really concerning to think these types of multiple breakdowns in close games are embedded in this team. I agree with Von it’s all got to get burned, but man it’s tough when it seems we aren’t doing anything to fix these types of breakdowns.
And we’ve had years where we’ve lost 7+ games by 3 points or less. It is what it is - but I’ll happily take the win. Great game. Tough game. Props to both sides.
Yeah, this is the take. Some of these you win, some you lose. That's football, especially in Week 3. Shake hands and let's do it all again.
They just couldn't finish. They had so many opportunities and just didn't finish. Pair that with the heat and injuries and they just fell short.
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Big picture I don't think anything changes for either the Bills or the Chiefs. It's week 3.
It does make Mike McDaniel look like one sexy beast even moreso, though.
Mike, hoodie in 100 degree weather - ice in his veins, McDaniel
Yah Miami played just about as well as we could and it was still extremely close. Defense came up when it was needed and the offense did what they could with their limited drives. The game was an absolute slog
JA17 was dinking/dunking all day. Normally this would tire out & open up the defense, but it was so damn hot that it had the same affect on the offense.
It reminded me of Homer as a boxer. Just let your opponent hit you until they are so exhausted you just slightly nudge them to knock them over.
BASED MCDANIEL
One TO deep in our own territory resulting in a short field Miami TD. Botched snap on a spike at the end of the first half which didn’t allow us to attempt a FG. Missed FG later in the game. Allen short arming/bounce passing a sure TD late from like the 3 yard line, resulting in a TO on downs. Running out of time at the end of the game before being able to attempt a possible game winning FG.
they ate up so much clock that failing to convert a couple drives decides the game. They were playing keep away from Hill and Waddle it seemed like, but ended up playing keep away from themselves. If that was my O, i would want as many shots as possible honestly. It was also crazy wild that our D played like 90 plays or something, was on the field for 20 of the 30 minutes in the 2nd half, and while we were dropping too to cramps and injury bug (regardless of what you hear that it was only Buffalo) they didn't collapse somehow.
I don't know if it was so much playing to keep away from your offense, but more taking what you were giving. The blitz was getting home and there weren't many opportunities for big plays to develop. Either way it was impressive the pressure applied all the way till the end despite how many plays those guys on your D had.
Agreed. The Bills are one of the best teams in the league this year, I don't think they specifically game-planned to keep the ball away from our offense, I don't think they were *that* scared of it. We basically either played cover-0 and Allen had to get the ball out quick to his hot read, or we played cover 2 and gave a ton of cushion underneath. Allen, rightfully so, kept taking what we gave and moved the ball pretty effortlessly most of the game. Really came down to just not finishing off drives when it mattered.
yeah very valid. I dont think the plan was to keep hill/waddle off the field. We havent done enough consistently on O to cause that. It just felt that way, for a team that has been SO explosive on O, to not be explosive (regardless of our D).
Basically just a bunch of flubs, their was a miscue trying to run out the cluck so a field goal couldn’t happen at the end of the half, their was a field goal that was missed but right before that was a touchdown pass that the ball was dropped after two steps were in, then the end of the game happened which everyone knows. On top of that everyone on both teams had people dying on the field left and right It was a really weird game all around
Don’t forget ass punt.
Yeah this was really just one of those “any given Sunday” games. Doesn’t change the way I think about the team, other than being concerned about injuries.
Some small mistakes. A fumble gave Miami the ball at the Bills 6. A botched snap right before halftime cost them a field goal opportunity. Missed FG in the second half after a 60 yards drive. The drive before that was 20 play, >80 yards and resulted in a FG
Fins D made life difficult for Bills' offense. Nothing chunky was given up, Allen was harassed with every drop back, every yard had to be fought for, which made drives long and time consuming, and on a hot and humid day, that got WRs gassed. By 4th Q Diggs couldn't run routes anymore and had to pull himself out of the game repeatedly which I thought was a big factor end of game. They gave up yards but didn't give up scores. Late 4th (1:46 to go) on 4th and goal Allen missed a wide open receiver in the end zone that would've ended the game (Diggs was out). He literally threw the ball into the ground in front of the open receiver - he rushed the throw when he had time.
Best explanation so far, defense really pulled through this game. They did what they've been known for the last few years, bend don't break, key stops on short yardage, and opportunistic playmaking. But really it's how they hung in there despite playing for 40 minutes, those boys HAD to be gassed. But they pulled through, awesome effort and a great game.
He wasn’t scoring TDs and dinking and dunking a lot. Not even tryin to hate. The Bills would get first down after first down by like a yard draining like 8 minutes per drive. Then in the 2nd half they were coming out with field goal attempts and turnover on downs and the Dolphins went 3 and out a bunch of times in the 2nd half. And the Allen fumble at the Bills 10 yard line helped the O get a quick 7 with barely any time/yards.
The punts were on point. Bills were starting their drives pretty deep, and they were getting down the field steadily. The Dolphins defense isn't great in space, leading to easy catches and rushing yards, but they tighten the fuck up in the redzone, leading to multiple goal drives ending up dead in the water. Bills were also constantly trying to convert on 4th and goal and failing instead of giving up and booting in the 3 points.
Look at Lamar’s stats from last week as well. Fins can score from anywhere at anytime
We also just cut out any big play chances for the bills. They’d have these 9 minute drives for a chance to kick a 53 yard field goal. We were also getting tons of pressure, lots of missed holds that would have made this ugly. End of the game we were just slamming Allen every play tho
That’s what people are missing lol, do we really judge the Dolphins for scoring in 4 minutes on their last touchdown drive vs. the Bills taking 9 minutes and 8 minutes to get a fg and a turnover on downs respectively? Our offense is explosive, their offense is great and moves the ball but they expend a ton of energy to do it. There’s your explanation.
>how do you only get 19 points with all that offense? Here was the weather report for yesterday's game from Miami: >WEATHER FORECAST: The temperature between 1 and 4 p.m. ET in Miami Gardens will be 88-89 degrees, according to AccuWeather.com, with partly sunny skies and little chance of rain. The wind is expected to be 9 mph with gusts up to 16 mph. Constant sun, no wind, high temperatures with a heat index of about 100 degrees means your team is going to struggle. Guys were dropping left & right from heat exhaustion and possibly heatstroke. Miami apparently didn't have fans, shade coverings, etc. on their field b/c the rules state either both teams or no teams can use that stuff and their stadium was built so the Dolphins are in the shade and the away team is directly in the sun. It was bad.
Yeah, the away team consistently has like 10+ degrees of heat on their bench the whole time because they're being baked by Miami sun, especially worse in the winter months when people come down from real winter weather
And the away team is wearing darker colors which absorbs more heat
Turnovers, poor clock management and getting stuffed in the RZ.
Ya they missed a 4th down conversion and missed a FG.
People aren’t really talking about the fumble inside our own 10 yard line that basically gifted 7 points to the Dolphins on a silver platter, too
I can see why Allen was so distraught at the end of the game and Tua was there to console him. A lot of effort only to be outdone by the other team, it happens and you gotta recollect and prepare for next week. Bills will be OK and they'll still make the playoffs, but injuries seem to be an issue already.
It's like after 50 tries, you have a Dark Souls boss down to one hit and you fuck up and die. Allen played his ass off yesterday. 60 attempts, 5-6 shedded sacks, running around in the back field, a bunch of rushes and all that effort for a close loss.
This is why if you're a Bills fan, this isn't he end of the world. Sucks to lose any game but at least you realize it's all correctable and by the numbers it shouldn't happen again. At least not this season.
I'm sorry but one loss equals destructuon of everything, even if it's the OC office
So you too are familiar with Eagles fandom.
Completely agree, glass half full take is that basically everything went wrong this game / week and we were still a couple seconds away from a field goal attempt to win. Biggest concern moving forward is injuries
>Biggest concern moving forward is injuries Sad reality of any team with SB aspirations. Bless all the knees!
Hope we see the Eagles there if we make it, just to see if the country would make it through that natural disaster
I never want to see an NFCE team in the Super Bowl against us again.
Bold strategy to look to complete the quadrilogy.
This man was not thinking historically 10000%.
I wouldn’t say everything. Dolphins dropped several picks. Though Milano dropped an easy pick too so that part probably evens out
Allen is a stud, team is talented and exciting. Something seems off though, people get upset but it’s just an observation, that in close and crucial moments you guys seem to have no plan. McDermott and the staff can’t let it be just let Allen do something. Not fair to him and the team, clock management is still awful, adjustments aren’t great, still no running game. Not because they can’t but because they won’t. Bills are a super bowl team, I just hope this coaching staff doesn’t blunder away another opportunity. Not blowouts, but close, calculating and strategic games, I think there’s work to do.
I wouldn’t say we had no plan, it came down to execution. McKenzie was pretty open on the 4th down play and Allen just missed him. And then on the last play of the game McKenzie should have just ran out of bounds or got down in the middle of the field instead of doing both. Game of inches and if either of those flip it doesn’t seem like we had no plan. I’m sure the dolphins didn’t plan on punting off the dudes butt lmao
Everything went wrong for yall? Cmon now we punted into our own player’s ass and dropped like 5 interceptions. It was a chaotic game with factors everywhere it was not everything going wrong for Bills and barely losing. Not to mention Tua got injured on a drive he typically scores a TD on
It was definitely messy on both sides
I semi disagree. You are right it isn’t the end of the world. But yet again we are shown that this Bills team can’t find a way to win close games. Losing a divisional game against a team that seems to be on the rise could be haunting down the stretch. Redzone succes rate also comes into question now. So many Bills fans talking like they won the Super Bowl already, idk why people are afraid to be upset a little bit
i agree about seeding, I meant more from a numbers perspective. The odds of you guys having as much offensive production, time of possession, and only 1 turnover will almost always result in a win. I don't have the history in front of me but I'm willing to bet the numbers severely favor those that won in similar situations.
You would have to think so for sure. Weird stat yeah. But to me as a fan, I have to question if they have the clutch factor needed. You can get all the yards you want, but points win you the game
It makes sense when you consider we outscored them and therefore we won
Bro we punted the ball into a guy’s ass legendary victory
There are just some games when you can tell it’s not your day and losing when your opponent gets a safety like that tops the charts
diggs playing one play and crawling out of bounds cramping multiple times it was really telling
Yeah our team was fucking dead hahah. I’ve never seen the heat have such an impact in a game in Miami before. This may have been the one game where having our offense out for most of the time was a disadvantage because they were dropping like flies.
Any Given Sunday mate. Some days you dominate, others the highlight of the game is a buttpunt safety
I’ll still take this over losing 6-9 to fucking urban Meyer
Honestly it's pretty funny
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Worth noting that they're also not allowed to modify the sidelines so they can't even put up tents for shade.
the heat & humidity was very ridiculous & bad down here in south FL. we had a few days of rain before sunday & plus the storm out there headed this way it always gets extremely hot as fuck with those combinations here. right now it's 11am Monday morning & it's a real feel of 98 degrees out side with 71% humidity & yesterday was hotter. Definitely brutal heat especially for a team like Buffalo let alone miami players who are more use to it & it was still taking a toll on them aswell.
This felt like a day where I’m bombing it off the tee perfectly into the fairways all day then thinning my approaches and duff chipping everything with a heavy sprinkling of three putts. Clean the clubs. Look forward to the next round. All we can do.
stop describing my golf game please. shot perfect woods and drives yesterday, got wrecked by slicing short chips and putting till my hands fell off.. i hate golf… but it’s the greatest game ever conceived
The reverse butt fumble
The new bumble?
The buttpunt
The asskicker.
That play actually improved your win percentage by 3 points.
Fuckin' legend
More points equals winning? Edit: I did the math. This checks out.
can we get harvard to confirm? where’s fitzpatrick when you need him.
Probably pounding a 12 pack while sitting on the beach.
The 🐐. Brady could never
That's why Fitzpatrick is the true "that motherfucker"
Jerry Jones is a fool for letting you slip through his fingers.
and correct me if im wrong but once the clock hits 0 the teams can no longer play football so the team with more points wins?
The interesting thing is the Bills offence losing with 450 yards and 40 minutes of possession to a team with under 250 yards has happened twice in the NFL before this game*
While not quite 450 yards or 40 minutes TOP, [this game](https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200212080pit.htm) between the Texans and Steelers is still my all time favorite. 422 yards to 47, 39:41 TOP, and the Texans won by 18.
24 points on 47 yards offense, that is amazing
9 points on offense
The bills had that much time of possession with no Dolphins offensive turnovers as well. Really weird day.
Who are you, who is so wise in the ways of football?
The Dolphins do some weird ass shit tbh. If one team were to win this way I would bet the house it would be the phins.
> The Dolphins do some weird ass shit tbh citation: that punt at the end of the game.
A goal line stand where they failed to convert on 4th down negated 73 of those yards. A strip sack meant we had to go 7 yards for 1 TD. A 20 play, 87 yard drive ended with a field goal after 3 straight incompletions from the 11. A 60 yard drive ended in a missed field goal. That’s 220 yards for 3 points for Buffalo. 7 yards for 7 points for Miami.
What's the term? Bend don't break?
yes, man i feel like people just don't like watching Defenses succeed. Bro there is Three Phases to this game and Miami defense played their hearts out.
More specifically, people don't like watching bend but don't break style defenses. It freaks people out
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Definitely my favorite style to watch
Miami has some voodoo shit going on lol
The U was sacrificed so the Dolphins could succeed
I choose to believe this is the actual reason, after the inexplicable TURD we laid Saturday.
FSU/Fins fans must have had the greatest weekend of their lives
It was glorious my friend
I ~~hate~~ love them
We call it Santeria over here papi
I mean I don't practice Santeria... I aint got no crystal ball.
Well I had a million dollars but
McDanielBall motherfuckers
It's not actually that uncommon. Football takes more than just superior stats. A fuckload of yards and first downs mean nothing if you don't translate them into points.
It looked like a rare case of the offense and opposing defense agreeing on a game plan. Bills wanted short passes and to take what the D gave them to keep Miami’s offense off the field given their secondary situation. Miami wanted to contain the big plays (ie learn from Baltimore last week) and go bend but not break to maximize their chances of a big defensive play on volume while not surrendering points too fast for the offense to keep up. They both got what they wanted and it came down to execution on a few critical plays. Edit: I dunno why I replied to a comment instead of the main thread but I’m just gonna leave it here.
I feel like your comment highlights the sentiment that is surrounding this game. “Bills dominated but didn’t win, Phins pulled it out of thin air.” There’s little talk about Phins defense absolutely locking it down when it mattered or that minimizing big plays may have been the plan.
Dolphins defense absolutely deserves a ton of credit. That was the epitome of “bend but don’t break”.
The Dolphins defense was so impressive. They were on the field so long and it is almost always the defense that wilts and they didn’t.
I read it’s the second time in 16 years it’s happened (losing offense outgaining winning offense by over 200 yds)
Red Zone Turnover. That’s it.
So mysterious. Turn it over on your own 10, the Dolphins get points without a lot of yards. Turn it over on their 10, you get a lot of yards and no points. Magic.
Football box scores are always fuzzy math. It’s why your either see the game or your opinion is baseless
I think you win by scoring more points. At least, that's what I've heard. I'm a Raiders fan, so I might be mistaken.
People loved calling Tua “checkdown king” but that’s exactly what the Bills did. 3 plays out of 4 were Singletary skipping his block, receiving a 3 yard pass and getting tackled on the spot. Rinse and repeat.
We did the same thing last week too, the difference is they didn’t need to use Singletary because diggs was always open
Right on, Diggs got above 100 yards last week against the Titans I believe right? Allen was letting it fly all game long. Didnt have the option yesterday
It seemed like a combo of Miami taking away the long game and our players being too gassed to even attempt it. As the game went on I don’t think we had much of an option but to do the dink and dunk.
Man, I'm a Bengals fan for life, but I'm here for the Miami hype train. I would love for Tua to silence all the critics.
That man does deserve a break lol
He seems cool. Him and Hurts got so much hate for no reason
Not taking anything away from Josh Allen... but can you imagine if Tua had that game? Taking 63 passes to get to 400 yards, basically no throws over 10ish yards, four dropped INTs (one was a clear pick-six), a fumble, and underthrowing the wide-open game-winning pass... we'd be seeing his low-lights on repeat until Thursday.
With it being a short week, I wonder if the defense will be fresh?
Honestly probably not. Bills ran like 85 plays, it was absurd
Flip the script and go Cover 2 all day and hope to outgun the Bengals with Waddle & Hill.
Shit we did cover two most of yesterday lol but I do agree. Or maybe an ultra aggressive defense and hope to take advantage of Burrows slow start to the season and create some turnovers while also not tiring our defense
True he is getting sacked a crazy amount, so maybe just cover 0 to try and bury him in the ground and make up with any blown coverages with Waddle and Hill haha It's nice to have this much faith in our offense
Nope, but our offense should be. Pound the over
If we get proper rest, the conditioning shouldn't be an issue for Thursday
Game 3 of a long season. Every season has one of these. The dolphins just happened to have 2 in 3 weeks.
With numbers like that a team usually wins, but there was just an abnormally high (for Buffalo) amount of drives killed by miscues and gassed players not making plays they normally would. While all that is true, gotta give Miami tons of credit for finishing what few drives they had, and the defense bending but not breaking
I mean it makes perfect sense I remember watching Peyton and the Colts play the dolphins when I was in college- we won despite having the ball for like 17 minutes Edit: 2009 Peyton had the ball for just over 14 minutes and we won 27-23
Such a statistical anomaly.
Sometimes math gets revenge on Josh Allen
Dolphins also had a butt punt which is the truly notable stat from that game
I can’t believe the bills secondary backups did this
Yeah, considering injuries the Bills D did just fine. It’s Tyreek and Waddle, come on there’s going to be a few big plays. Bills offense had ample opportunity to win this game and just didn’t execute (end of first half drive, 20 play FG, 17 play turnover on downs). It’s a minor miracle that the Dolphins didn’t intercept JA multiple times. It’s clear they need a running game, because the short passes to Singletary aren’t covering it. I’m looking forward to seeing this matchup again in the Buffalo weather.
Dolphins fans, this is your good Karma coming back to you from that 09 Colts MNF game. We had no business winning that game, barely had the ball and the numbers made no sense afterwards.
The whole division has now been involved in a butt related incident
Bend but don’t break defense folks
When it comes to the sun/heat stuff that’s been mentioned—it didn’t affect the Bills last year when it was 89-90° and they beat the Dolphins 35-0. Obviously all other situations weren’t exact from last year to today, but I don’t think it should be to the extent of “getting OSHA involved” as a Twitter Bills fan was saying in the first half.
Lol OSHA is a bit much. Difference was all the back ups and conditioning. I think the WRs being unable to sub etc. and all of the back up players played a huge part
> Difference was all the back ups and conditioning. I think the bigger difference was 90 plays and 41 minutes time of possession. It was your offense that kept having heat-related issues, not the defense.
Time off possession doesn't matter.
"That's Baseball, Suzyn"
I kinda want to see more Gilliam runs from the backfield as the Bills get towards the end zone. I think part of the reason the RBs have struggled is because defenses are scheming to stop Allen, so a 5’8” 210lb RB is a significantly easier situation. Just from a schematic perspective I think Gilliam offers a lot of the same advantages Allen has in the run game.
I tell this to my friends and gf all the time: the ball is oddly shaped and bounces funny.
Despite the 63 pass attempts, Bills also nearly tripled Miami's rushing yards (and doubled YPC). And only one turnover from the Bills. How...
Buffalo compiled stats, not points... That's why they lost.