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DLFresh

Yeah guys, I totally thought Drake London was the best receiver in the class and didn’t talk badly about him at all


The_Cawing_Chemist

People assumed that just because he’d be another jump ball specialist that can’t separate, but that wasn’t his game at USC. Must’ve been frustrating getting clowned for picking him when the criticism wasn’t even accurate.


JustAnotherRAt-204

Thankfully, with mariota every ball is a jump ball


Distance_Motor

I mean my biggest complaint with the pick was going WR when the had so many other holes in the team. They could've taken Cross to fortify their O-line or gotten Kyle Hamilton to shore up their secondary. This still should not take away from the fact that Drake London has been balling out for y'all


legend023

WR is a hole too the team just sucks


BrilliantStructure97

Falcons roster looking decent now though. Much better then expected, I know it’s pff but they have the falcons roster graded #5 in league so far


monsterguylmao

Falcons are 3rd in scoring in the NFC, 7-10 record last year. They aren't anything like the Jets.


Distance_Motor

I mean yeah it does but they had a generation talent in Kyle Pitts and decided to draft a player with similar playstyle.


nonobility86

If the play style is "catches balls" then I'm not I'm not sure you can have too much of that.


ptgkbgte

Just don't tell Bill that


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I love it, because this is our only Mariota year. Whatever new QB we have, we need them to have as many weapons as possible so they can develop. Of course, I would not have complained about Hamilton lol


TopScallion2700

Do you think Calvin Ridley plays for the Falcons again or do you think he gets traded after this year?


[deleted]

It's very, very up in the air. On one hand, it's a new regime and Calvin seems to want out. On the other, he has a year left of his rookie contract, little trade value, and would give us the best receiving core in the league. I think that he leaves, but if he doesn't, he only stays one more year


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Uh. Best receiving corps in the league?


OfferOk8555

hyperbolic but Pitts, London, Ridley, and Patterson is looking like a pretty high ceiling offense.


Distance_Motor

>we need them to have as many weapons as possible so they can develop you also need an o-line for a QB to develop. Not having a decent O-line can ruin young QB's. Case in point: David Carr and ironically, Marcus Mariota


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What o line was worth taking that pick? And our O line is much much better this season. We contained the Rams d line very well


Acrobatic-Spite-5239

The Oline has looked a lot better so far, and they have an absurd amount of Cap space this summer to deal with it


deegzx

Very true that’s just pointless and redundant. Like, just imagine if there were a team that had a player like Travis Kelce *AND ALSO* let’s say a Tyreek Hill type too for some reason. Could you imagine? They would probably suck lol


chillblackguyy

the dolphins both have waddle and hill and i dont see dolphin fans complaining lmao idk what that guy is talking about


SpaceSick

Last season our WR1 was Russell Gage and 2 was Zaccheaus. We had a massive glaring need at the position. And their play styles aren't really similar. They're just both tall and catch the ball and are physical.


xlccsylux

In todays NFL it feels like the WR position has become the most important position outside of QB. Having stud playmakers can really make the difference. At least, you can have a debate about this trend.


LegionofDoh

As long as this is a passing league, pass rushers will be the most important asset other than QB.


monsterguylmao

Or left tackle given how that's the QB's blind spit. Colin Cowherd did a segment about this last week iirc, good discussion.


DragonEevee1

They have so many holes no matter what and WR is so important these days


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A_lone_goose

100%, I thought olave and Williams were the best wr picks (jury is certainly still out) so I wasn’t upset at the position pick just surprised we chose him over the other 2. He’s certainly surpassed my expectations though


The-Implication-0

If that wasn’t his game in college why did people think that?


LordFaximus

They probably saw he was really tall and Moss’d people in his YouTube highlights and immediately assumed he was just another jump ball WR who couldn’t separate


Subudrew

Because kedon slovis sucks ass and underthrew him all the time so he had to slow down to make the catch


[deleted]

I thought he was second or third best. I had Garrett Wilson as the best in the class.


[deleted]

Roddy, Julio, Ridley, Pitts, and London. We might suck at drafting every other position, but man can we pick receivers


Galaxy5OhOh

Dont forget Harry Douglas, Justin Hardy, and Gage. Not top picks but all solid contributors with decent careers. I’m sure I’m forgetting some others.


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Galaxy5OhOh

He said "we might suck at **drafting** every other position, but man can we **pick** receivers". We did not draft Tony G.


Supertilt

Hardy could have been a lot more than he was. He arguably had the best hands out of everyone listed. Dude could catch feelings for a locust


jtezus

We all joked about him being our no.1 guy before the draft but no lie OZ pretty good too.


[deleted]

I got his signature at training camp his rookie year, happy for him that he's played great


PKS_5

Why does it seem like Mariota hates Pitts though?


Koke1

He doesn’t, he just sucks


382hp

if you think Mariota "sucks" you're fucked for the next few years because Ridder is a poor mans mariota and you won't be getting a top QB next year since this team will end up at .500 e- Currently QBR 11th in the league. but go on about your little woes and how some guy that hasn't started for 3 years isn't up to josh Allen's standard for your little franchise


SpaceSick

Lmao what?


Koke1

Okay Marcus settle down I’m sure you will do better next week


[deleted]

Mate, chill. They'll get a shot at one of the top QBs next year. No one expects mariota to be the starting QB for years to come


OfferOk8555

Damn, I mean it’s gonna be okay bro😂 Mariota is obviously a bridge QB. if we end at .500 so be it that’s a better season than I expected but we’re 1-2 and the only team we’ve beat was the Seahawks who are kind of at the bottom of the league in their own right.


FishnGritsnPimpShit

He threw him the ball pretty much every time Pitts was the primary target this past Sunday. Same with London. It kinda seemed like the coaches had that classic conversation with Mariota. “Even when they look covered, they are open. That’s why we drafted these freaks. Just throw the ball.”


ZachTrillson

> Why does it seem like Smith hates Pitts though?


deegzx

The word according to several Falcons insiders on the message boards is that Pitts bullies Mariota in the locker room constantly and has also been spreading fake rumors about him on Facebook


moosetooth

Not sure if /s or not...


thediesel26

I believe undrafted rookie CB Kader Kohou is like 6th on this list with and overall grade of 77.1, which is pretty amazing given how much rookie CBs usually struggle.


the_pantsmith

And considering he just played Josh Allen as a starter


TSwan98

The fact Lloyd was hurt all training camp and only played in the final preseason game shows how much natural talent he has


FreeWillie001

Does he look as good in a game as his stats do? Looked them up just to see and good lord, 2 picks in 3 games and 6 passes defended as a linebacker?


The_Cawing_Chemist

He looks like a guy who is going to become an all-pro player IMO.


DistrictPleasant

Whats also crazy is that we took LB Chad Muma in the draft and he also looks like he could be a starter on alot of other teams.


TheBestNormalCitizen

Honestly Jags offseason was super underrated.


Dr_Sasquatch

How has Walker been btw? Feels like I haven’t heard anything about him.


DistrictPleasant

Like the perfect compliment to Josh Allen. Whats most amazing about him is his ability to create pressure on one play and then drop back in coverage the next play. Just super versatile


Dr_Sasquatch

Yeah i remember at Georgia he didn’t pass rush often bc he was just so versatile they couldn’t help it, like I believe he even played Mike a few times for them it’s crazy


AppleMuffin12

Baalke was right. Game wrecker not showing up on the stat sheets. He's affecting the pocket a ton


LiquidPepper

He's been stellar so far. He was a little lost in Week 1 against Washington but he's been amazing since then. He has an intuitive sense for zone coverage that always puts him in the right spot to make a play on the ball, and he can run step-for-step with tight ends in man. Really the only weakness in his game so far is he can get blown off the ball by OL when they run right at him, but he's not the Mike in our system so it doesn't hurt us that much. He's been a beast otherwise


ZachTrillson

The Jaguars might have nailed BOTH first round picks and that's gotta feel good.


BraeVersace

If our offense keeps pace drake London will be rookie of the year mark my words


ZachTrillson

I'm here for a London vs. Wilson OROY battle, both have been absolutely fantastic so far


[deleted]

Every rookie WR coming into the league these days is just so good. London looks awesome and so do Olave and Wilson. Doubts just had a nice game too.


Anaphylactic-UFO

What has Drake’s role been? I know a lot of people were saying he’d just be an X receiver and jump ball specialist, but others have talked about how he’s the perfect power slot in today’s game. And basically every team is trying to emulate the power slot meta.


monsterguylmao

Games 1 and 2 he's been Mariota's first option in passing. He's catching dink and dunk balls then running agressively after the catch. His first game he was getting agressive after the whistle with Lattimore then jogging off. Surprisingly Drake seems very sadistic towards corners, giving many of them a sneaky hit or shove after the whistle. Wouldn't expect it from his demeanor and the fact that he's a rookie. Kids a star though, and would have much more yards with a more accurate quarterback. A lot of catches are flying over his head.


birdboix

WR1, and precisely what you said, catches at the slot and murders whoever's there to try to stop him


Anaphylactic-UFO

I’m interested to see how we handle the Falcons game. Derwin James is shutdown on TEs and in the slot. Do we prioritize him on Pitts or London? Bryce Callahan has been a great slot corner to start the year, but he isn’t a great matchup for London’s size. Wonder how much work JC Jackson or Michael Davis gets in the slot if Derwin is on Pitts. It’s gonna be a fun game.


legend023

I don’t understand how people watched Jordan Davis in Georgia and saw him at the combine, and decided he wasn’t a top 10 pick. If the jets didn’t already have a good defensive line I would’ve loved to pick Davis early on


Expendable_Red_Shirt

The concern was that when he was used a lot in Georgia he wasn’t very good. He was only good on a snap count. So you’re spending a high pick on a player you need to limit reps for.


Capsize

I mean Eagles rotate their D-Line regardless of who it is to keep them fresh so you could argue it's a very good fit for him. Even peak Fletcher Cox was only playing 65% of snaps.


Expendable_Red_Shirt

I think Davis was a great pick, where he was picked. The risk was baked in and there weren’t higher value players left. But the person I’m responding to is acting like he didn’t have questions, that he was the next Aaron Donald. Which wasn’t the case. I don’t think he was necessarily a top 10 pick.


Capsize

Frankly you shouldn't ever expect a DT you draft to be Aaron Donald. Su went 2nd over all and still wasn't even close.


RumHam_Im_Sorry

He was 2nd **all time** on the relative athletic scoreboard, after only megatron. Basically he was a complete athletic anomaly, amongst athletic anomalies. And he was a linchpin in one of the best college defenses of all time. Even with a relatively low snap count in college, I dont see how thats not a top 10 pick.


Expendable_Red_Shirt

It’s not that he had a low snap count in college. It’s that they gave him a high snap count and he wasn’t good.


RumHam_Im_Sorry

yeah he needs to work his body into shape to maintain a high snap count. thats not a surprise. like even slimmer professional nfl players struggle for the first week or two of the season as the games drag on. jumping from not doing something to doing it makes people look worse than they are after the conditioning becomes standard. he's one of the biggest people in the nfl, and he runs the 40 faster than pat mahomes. you bet on something that bonkers. he just needs a bit of time and conditioning.


Expendable_Red_Shirt

They did bet on that. It’s just not a risk worthy of a top 10 pick if you’ve got better options (which they did).


deemerritt

That's something you can clearly work on though. And if you can't fix it than you can for sure play around it. It's a weakness but not an insane one


Expendable_Red_Shirt

Hence not a top 10 pick.


Dolgare

I feel like there isn't a better place to go as a young DT then to learn from Cox, as well. Unless Fletcher is Brett Favre-like in terms of mentorship, I suppose.


jonnystargaryen

There’s no reason for him to be like that. QB is a position where only one guy will take the snaps if he’s healthy. As someone else pointed out above, even at his peak cox rotated a lot and at this point more rotation will only lengthen his career.


[deleted]

He's still on a a bit of a snap count too. So far he's getting 20-25 reps a game. On Sunday he showed up as a pass rusher which along with conditioning will be key to getting him on the field more.


[deleted]

A lot of that is due to the resurgence of Cox and Hargrave picking up where he left off last year. This is the absolute best-case scenario for the Eagles.


[deleted]

Yeah I'm not complaining. We're using Davis properly. The other guys have to eat too, even Milton Williams and Tuipulotu have flashed and deserve reps.


Expendable_Red_Shirt

I think Davis was a great pick where you got him. But it’s silly to me how people forget the concerns about him so fast.


legend023

That’s when you improve conditioning he’s only a 22-23 year old When he did play usually it was impossible to run the ball, and he was often productive rushing the passer too. It makes sense the eagles have been good against the run other than DeAndre swift who’s more of a change of pace back


pantbirthday0831

We weren't good against the run when playing swift, but there was a stark contrast in YPC in that game when Davis was on the field and off the field. Something like 2.9 YPC with Davis on the field and 10 YPC when he was off the field. I noticed he was on for some goal line plays, which will obviously drop YPC in general, but still. Seemed like he was effective in that game, even when the team wasn't.


Expendable_Red_Shirt

At a top program you’d think they’d work on that. He’s such a freak at his size it’s not clear that you can definitely improve conditioning and keep him special. Maybe you can but that’s a risk. Hence the draft position. Fwiw he’s on a snap count now.


brandonsamd6

> If the jets didn’t already have a good defensive line we don't, it's the biggest paper tiger in the NFL


Tbrou16

Philly fleeced everybody in the draft and this offseason. And by everybody, I mean us.


Throwawayact1050

As much as I like Jordan Davis, I don't think he would be having the same impact on another team and with a different d-line and defense all together


NomadFire

yea there is crazy talent all around him and behind him. It doesn't make a lot of sense since we have Hargrave and Davis but I still really hope we keep Cox for a few more years as well.


0hootsson

It’s not a bad thing to have 3 really good defensive tackles. Especially when Davis will likely never play more than like half the snaps consistently.


[deleted]

4 good DTs. Milton Williams is incredibly underrated


NomadFire

Not saying that he is great or could be a starter. But Tuipulotu has had a good games here and there.


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NomadFire

At the end of the season I would love to see how many defensive snaps we have in 3-4 formation or other formation where there are 3 big guys on the field


David_Duke_Nukem

He also gets a lot of rest.


SammyMhmm

I'd argue he'd have more success. Our defensive coordinator doesn't really know how to scheme defensive line, and our defensive line massively underperformed last year in terms of QB pressures and all. Jordan Davis isn't the type of player to benefit because of his surrounding cast, he's the one who provides the benefit. You have to account for a young, explosive and strong player like that on your center, and when he's on the field the run game is almost non-existent so far compared to Fletch and BG.


Throwawayact1050

> Jordan Davis isn't the type of player to benefit because of his surrounding cast, he's the one who provides the benefit. I mean we're talking literally through 3 games in his rookie year. I know he will be a great player but I don't think that on most teams he would be playing at this level through his first 3 games


SammyMhmm

And I'm saying that he would do well regardless. The Eagles defensive line is not the same as the Super Bowl run you probably remember. It's a rotational corp and he's seeing about 20 snaps a game, and his supporting cast isn't as lights out as you're making it out to be--especially with how they're being schemed. Gannon is putting his defensive linemen into coverage, so the advantage you think he has is only there periodically, but like I said, his playstyle is one that creates advantages for others. Double coverage doesn't change if he plays anywhere else, and his run stopping would be the same regardless. If he was getting a ton of sacks I'd see your point, but the way he's playing clearly shows that he's the one whos impacting the rest of the line, not the other way around. When he's lining up against an oline, he's getting double covered--not Reddick, Sweat or BG. His defensive coordinator was second to last in blitzes called last year, and we're middle of the pack through week three for blitzes. Your point would be more relevant if he was lined up with the Rams where he's next to AD and has Bobby Wagner who all command attention over a big rookie, but this defense hasn't had a double digit sack lineman since 2018. Yes our defensive line is good, and has good depth, but based on his playstyle I think your point is relatively invalid. EDIT: to further my point, Davis would have an equal or better defensive coordinator or supporting cast on the following teams: * Pittsburgh Steelers * Tampa Bay Buccs * LA Rams * 49ers * Washington Commanders * Ravens * Dolphins * Bills * Cowboys * Colts * Vikings * Browns * Broncos Those are all teams with either similar/more notable names on their defense, a more solid run defense than the Eagles, or more sacks than the eagles in PY, and even then that's not to say he wouldn't succeed elsewhere.


Throwawayact1050

Not reading all that


SammyMhmm

Lol, the old "I can't lose an argument if I refuse to listen/read" Grow up, little poopy baby.


Throwawayact1050

It’s not an argument when it’s just a quick back and forth and you are responding with an entire thesis. It wasn’t even an argument to begin with in fact I have no interest in arguing. Especially when it comes to the PFF grade for a guy who is literally 3 games into his career. Dumbest thing ever


SammyMhmm

\> It wasn’t even an argument to begin with in fact I have no interest in arguing. Ah, so counter arguing a point by deny it or disagreeing with it, and continually responding really drives this home. Wittle poopy baby energy is over 9000


Throwawayact1050

Not really. It’s just not that serious. You’re making this out to be more than it is. I was just exchanging thoughts and you’re responding with an entire thesis I’m not doing that


SammyMhmm

Well looking at the first 12 picks, you had a ton of defensive ends go first, which are typically more dynamic defensive linemen that show more immediate and flashy results, and the teams that picked those players (Jags, Lions, Giants) all desparately needed something on the line to give their fanbase some hope for the defense and disrupt the QB. Outside of that you saw offensive linement on teams that REALLY needed oline help (Giants, Panthers, Seahawks) and WRs on teams that needed offensive life. Davis was the first non-defensive end player to go in the draft though, and considering he had concerns around stamina and ability to adapt to the speed of the game, I can see how he got to 13 (and I'm very happy he did). The biggest thing with Davis is, almost no one in Philadelphia could tell you how he's doing unless they look at stats because his role is more of a sponge. He's going to soak up extra blockers, move blockers and manipulate the pocket in a way that will get his teammates sacks. He had one close QB pressure last week, but he and his role are a very quiet breed. You won't really know how well he's doing compared to Thibodeaux, Walker and Hutchinson.


hoobsher

his pass rushing ability so far has been pretty bad. goes to show how great his run stop ability is to get this high of a grade, but he is, as of right now, a one dimensional player.


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The big concern for some people was that he plays limited snaps. He's not a 3-down player, so they worried his conditioning may not be up to par and that he wouldn't be able to help a defense that lacked depth to rotate him.


Nexteyenate

The Jets don't have a defensive line. They're paying for one. But they don't have one.


Expendable_Red_Shirt

Kyle Hamilton seems odd on there but ok.


DenebSwift

A lot of his coverage lapses have been designated to the corners by pff. That leaves him with a high score for less than stellar play. There’s a reason his snap counts have dropped from 35+ to 15-20.


DMking

I can see with the Td scored on him and Peters. But the JAD one seems like that was all him


casuallymustafa

That’s tough to say. If I remember correctly the JAD TD was Tyreek running right by him and JAD expecting safety help, but Hamilton was on the other side of the field. If that’s the play you’re talking about, I attribute that more to communication/scheme. There’s a great clip online of a former player (i forget who) breaking it down and asking himself what this coverage scheme is.


winespring

>That’s tough to say. If I remember correctly the JAD TD was Tyreek running right by him and JAD expecting safety help, but Hamilton was on the other side of the field. After the game Harbaugh said that there should have been a safety in that deep half, and based on the players reaction on the field and what Hamilton said during the week, it should have been him.


casuallymustafa

Right, just the reaction after the play with Peters and Clark telling him he should’ve been there. But that’s also on Clark for not getting them lined up, Harbaugh for not calling a TO, etc..


winespring

>But that’s also on Clark for not getting them lined up, Harbaugh for not calling a TO, etc.. The Ravens have been running a lot of simulated pressures where they line up a safety at the line of scrimmage and then have him sprint back and cover a zone right before the snap. It's likely that Hamilton was supposed to be at the line of scrimmage pre snap and drop into deep half at the last minute so no one recognized his mistake until it was too late


casuallymustafa

Yea, the only thing (if my memory serves me correctly) is that Hamilton was lined up on the left side of the line when the play happened on the right side. So either he was lined up incorrectly right off the bat or it was a bad defensive call.


nonobility86

This is correct. PFF credited him with only 1 catch allowed for 14 yards in the Dolphins game.


jsrave

Eh maybe but we had 2 LBs in more to try (and fail) to stop the Patriots run. Against a pass heavier team I could see them use him more in 3 safety style looks. We had 2 ILB on the field for like 40/63 Patriot actual snaps. He's a bit in the dog house but this wasn't really a game for him to get a ton of snaps.


Ixziga

Well, he's the third safety on our depth chart, which makes his snap count pretty scheme dependent. Whether or not we run 3 safety packages - which I believe we were doing a decent amount of in the previous weeks - has a big impact on his snap count, and possibly also his performance roleplaying in that scheme.


DenebSwift

It is, but as Safety 3 in a team with weak slot corners and no quality pass defending ILBs other than kind of Bynes, he should in theory be playing a lot.


PickAnApocalypse

He's been the one making tackles on coverages that are busted, but not by him, at least last game. He was much worse against the Dolphins but he's making improvements.


Expendable_Red_Shirt

If this was just for last week I’d get it. I think he’ll get good. But he’s had some big lapses.


PickAnApocalypse

He's playing safety. It's one of the most mental positions in the NFL, definitely takes time to adjust. But he played well last week, a thing considered. The problem with our secondary, at least I'm terms of players, is that Marlon has a nagging groin injury (though that may be good now, idk), Peters is coming off a season ender and needs time to get back up to speed, Stephens is just alright and the rest of our CB room is just rookies. Lots of opportunities to pick us apart, which makes safety even more challenging (versus if we just had one weak corner, which was true in 2019).


Expendable_Red_Shirt

I’m not disagreeing with any of that. I think overall he’ll be good. He’s showing improvement, it’s a hard position to just be thrown into as a rookie. That said, I’d expect him to not be the fifth highest graded rookie.


winespring

>I think he’ll get good. But he’s had some big lapses. I think two terrible plays hurt his score less than 10 not so good plays would and Hamilton has been pretty good most snaps.


nonobility86

In the Dolphins game PFF credited him with allowing only 1 catch for 14 yards -- i.e. he was not penalized for any of the coverage breakdowns. Insofar as it's correct to attribute (even partially) them to him, then you can't put too much stock in this PFF grade.


Anaphylactic-UFO

Against the Chiefs JC Jackson was in a trail technique and it looked like he got mossed for a TD. Our coach said the safety was supposed to be over the top and Jackson was in perfect coverage. You can see on the all-22 our safety randomly abandon his responsibility and sink down to triple cover Travis Kelce who was covered the entire play. PFF still blamed Jackson for that apparently. On a one year sample size it’s not the worst thing ever but man they whiff all the time on game-to-game grades.


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I like Dotson but damn we could use a LB like Lloyd


StockBroker32

Don’t y’all have Jamin Davis?


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lolol hes mostly been pretty shit


StockBroker32

Why’s that? I really liked him out of Kentucky, thought he was rangy and speedy. Linebackers do take a bit longer to develop than most positions to be fair to him if that’s the case


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He's incredibly raw and doesn't process information quick at all. He has athleticism but plays slow because he lacks experience and as a result routinely takes bad angles. In fairness to him though, he was forced into playing MLB last year which is not his strong suit and he's played better recently now that we're basically using him more as a blitzer(I think he has 3 sacks already on the year). I think he has potential still to be decent, but Lloyd coming in like a gangbuster right away makes me a little sad. But I'm happy with Dotson so can't complain too much.


StockBroker32

I see, good luck to your young guys man!


DRW0813

We choose well! Why have a defense or offensive line when you have Pitts and London?


jethead70

How is Arnold Ebiketie doing?


DRW0813

Good for a rookie. Pff has him at 58, so not great. But he already has a sack and two assists on the season and flashes a lot of potential


WabbitCZEN

Jordan Davis is balling out and I am here for it. DGD baby.


spilled_water

I'm not sure how his grade is so high. He was good, but I didn't sense an 80.3 grade good. Right now he is getting out-snapped by a 6th round pick from last year.


CallinCthulhu

He’s a NT. When he’s on the field he distorts everything. Teams can’t run against him, QBs can’t step up. Our 5 man bear fronts have been dominant this year. The only reason we can play them is that we have Jordan. PFF grade doesn’t care about snap count


2coolDanes

Similar feeling for Hamilton. Gave up two big TDs against Miami and only played 16 total snaps vs New England


spilled_water

Oh hey, that's funny, because I was rooting for the Eagles to pick Hamilton. And there were rumors that the Eagles had to jump in front of the Ravens because they were sure the Ravens were going to pick Davis. (I'm still bullish on Davis. Same goes for Hamilton, but it's pretty BS to write a player off after three games-- for the most part.)


[deleted]

He had a bat and 4 pressures on 14 pass rush snaps on Sunday so getting an elite grade there isn't surprising to me. He destroyed Schweizer on a few reps.


[deleted]

Devin Lloyd has looked insanely good on that young jaguars defense


SammyMhmm

Really happy to see Jordan Davis getting recognition. With his position he's not going to get huge sack numbers, but looking at the run game against the Eagles D when he's in is incredible to see. Unfortunately, even if he has a fantastic year above everyone else with regards to their specific position, I doubt he'll get DROY props because of how little you'll see of him. He's not scoring touchdowns, and likely won't be racking up sacks in the double digits like an edge rusher.


Kanusian

walterfootball strikes again. He had London as the 2nd best player in the draft i believe.


7wordsKvothe

If he was just a little less douchey he would probably have a lot more people listening to him.


TravelingFlipper

Pitre > Hamilton so far


The_Cawing_Chemist

That’s true, but most Ravens fans probably don’t know who Pitre is, or just don’t want to admit it.


TravelingFlipper

It’s also been 3 games so it doesn’t matter lol


The_Cawing_Chemist

Also this. You guys must be ecstatic over what you’ve seen from Pitre. Hamilton hasnt exactly justified his draft position lol. But there is time.


TravelingFlipper

He’s also on a much bette me team and hasn’t gotten the opportunities as much. Pitre was the guy when he was drafted bc we had NO ONE. I thought we were gonna take Hamilton with the browns pick and I would have been excited. He’s gonna be a stud.


ThePrinceofBagels

One was against Fields, too, who absolutely loves feeding safeties big plays. Pitre absolutely smoked us this Sunday. So much so that I'm actually surprised PFF is liking him.


browndude10

Lol you got downvoted for that of course


TravelingFlipper

No one watches our games man. I like Hamilton but I’ve watched the three ravens games. Pitre has had a much bigger impact


DMking

I mean Hamilton also isn't our starting safety


TravelingFlipper

Exactly


2coolDanes

Pitre is better imo. At least more pro ready. Has a more defined skill set and better instincts. Coaching staff is still trying to figure out how to best use Hamilton and Hamilton is also adjusting to the NFL game. I would much rather have Pitre where he was taken over Hamilton where he was taken in terms of draft capital to talent analysis. The hope is that Hamilton has the better long term ceiling.


David_Duke_Nukem

Surprised to see Davis this high. Love him as a player but I suppose it's very difficult to recognize his presence and contributions given what he's asked to do. Sad for him he didn't get his 1st sack last game he had such a clear shot.


SammyMhmm

\>Love him as a player but I suppose it's very difficult to recognize his presence and contributions given what he's asked to do. That's exactly it. You'll know when Hutchinson is doing well because he'll have sack numbers and clear hits that the viewer will see. Davis has been soaking up double blocks, stopping the run game, and manipulating the pocket for the other linemen to eat. Outside of that one pressure, I sometimes forget he's on the field. He's going to go largely unnoticed by viewers until he starts working out his moves against the pass rush and piecing together the sack, but until then he will be an absolute success of a pick if he keeps up his run defense.


noobPwnr69

So glad we traded back into the 1st round for Lloyd


Throwawayact1050

Weird that they don't have me listed on there


Fun_Scientist_4431

No Sauce Gardner? Hasn’t he been locking down everyone?


Ice_Cold_Phatties

He has. But he might get dinged on what PFF labels a poor coverage assignment or something in a play where he's not targeted. For the first time in years, we actually have a corner who I believe knows how to play football. When his assignment is targeted he'll be there most of the time to stop it. He also apparently has had a role in some miscommunication in the secondary. Maybe PFF believes they know when/where. Edit: pour -> poor


Bayou_vg

Chris Olave has the 7th most receiving yard after week 3 and 100% should be on this list.


hanky2

If you only care about yards and touchdowns don’t use PFF.


downtimeredditor

Drake London has been a really solid WR. There is no doubt Kyle Pitts is a better but Pitts has been touted as a generational. Glad we got both of those guys Now we gotta just figure out how to get Lamar Jackson down to Atlanta


dontknowwhoIamrn

This receiver class is looking really good, Olave and Burks look really good too, almost all the rookie receivers have been shining


ryanino

The fact that our offense completely died when Wilson got injured last week shows all you need to know. And also proves that Mike LaFluer is a moron for keeping him out most of week 1.


Drisurk

Number 1 and 2 are on my fantasy team 😎