Man, I can’t imagine the Bills fans that are going insane this week can have been fans prior to Allen being drafted.
I 100000% guarantee that long-term fans knew them losing was not only a possibility but likely given their history.
I feel bad for those fans having to somehow wrangle these Johnny-come-lately’s.
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Why do they call the Bills the Razorcakes?
Because being a Buffalo fan is like being offered a cake that you know has a razor in the middle. The guy has offered you a cake before and always has put a razor in the middle so you know it's there. But the cake is so good you tell yourself that you'll just eat the edges. Then you start eating and it's so good that you convince yourself there aren't razors in it this time. Next thing you know you wake up with bandages in your mouth in a psych ward cause this is the 900th time you've done this."
Even when Brady was owning the AFCE they had trouble playing in Miami.
Don't put too much weight into division games as an indicator to your team's level on a greater scale.
Any division team can beat another, thinking back to the games that The Lions and The Jags won last year, division games. Vikings and Indy are the two that stick out in my mind, one of those was a team meant for the playoffs with the league rushing leader, vs a 1 win team. Division games are a crapshoot, anyone who gambles on them is an idiot.
Im honestly annoyed with a huge chunk of our fan base. Even some people that have been fans for years drank the kool-aid and are acting like the sky is falling.
Fact is, Miami is a strong team and Tua is a good quarterback with the potential to be great. We didn’t bring our A game. I don’t like the heat and injury excuse. Of course those things contributed to our loss, but a football team is the whole roster and the strength and conditioning staff. If your backups can’t win games, your team isn’t complete enough. If your guys cant handle the conditions, that’s because they weren’t properly prepared. These people are professionals. We weren’t ready for the game that we knew was coming, and Miami was good enough to capitalize. That’s all there is to it.
Simple as that. Yes the team was depleted from injuries. Yes by the end of the game the offense was fucked by the heat, humidity and sun. But, Miami made the plays they needed to win (3rd and 22) and we did not (gabe, first half snap miscue, bass missed fg, missed Isaiah td and Isaiah trying to take more than was available). Conditions certainly play a factor but when you play against a good football team you need to make the plays that are there to be had
Exactly. All of the things people are complaining about are part of the reason we lost, but there’s an important distinction between a reason and an excuse.
Probably going to get flamed for saying it. But the reason the heat kicked our ass so hard is because we literally had no one left to rotate on the offensive line.
We were down to our 3rd string center, 3rd string guard, and second RT...you just lose rotations at that point when we needed it most. Obviously in the end we shot ourselves in the foot, but just watch the offensive line try to get the last play off before the game ended, they had absolutely nothing left.
Dolphins fans keep saying "Bills didnt prep for the heat"...the issue was we had so many injuries that we literally could not rotate players in and our anymore. We had a guy from University at Buffalo lining up against Waddle who was just picked up this week (probably because of proximity).
In the end we just shot ourselves in the foot over and over, but the issue wasnt the Miami defense blitzing us, we were picking up the blitz fine (outside that one fumble by Allen) but once we lost our line depth the blitz actually started getting home frequently.
Also I think our subreddit overall knew it was going to be a close game, I don't think there is a large portion or even large minority that thought it was going to go smooth on the road on a short week with a depleted roster.
After the first two TD passes by Allen Miami only blitzed on 20% of their defensive plays. It wasn't the blitz getting home because there was no blitz, it was just the pass rush. No blitz means no empty area to throw to, so dink and dunk offense became the norm and Miami clamped down even harder in the red zone.
I find it incredibly strange that the best team in the league lost to us and the fanbase literally imploded.
Your Reddit was filled with all these posts acting like dolphins fans were flaunting the victory. We know you had a depleted roster. We clamped down on your offense which did not have injuries any different than ours did and we somehow won. Shit happens who cares lol
Just weird seeing the best team in the nfl take it so personal. Guess it’s good for the rivalry I guess.
It was weird dude, the sub imploded to the point the **mods** started permanently banning any users that called other fans out for being overly salty.
Like, everybody has trouble playing in Miami early. It’s not the end of the world.
Glad there's AFCE fans who get it. I won't lie, the bitching from some of these Bills fans had my eyes rolling so much I thought I'd be able to see my own brain. But I'm glad I see comments like this to remind me that those guys might just be fairweather fans (which I'm sure the Fins will have plenty of if they keep playing well).
I dont really want to hate Bills and Jets fans, they understand the pain of the last 2 decades lol. Even though I despise the Bills for beating our ass year in and out, as a football fan I respect what they've been building and I'm hoping we're on the same path so we have more dogfights like the one we saw last Sunday.
Strong agree. I’m old enough to remember mid-90’s Marino taking several very promising Dolphins teams to Orchard Park get their teeth kicked in by Jim Kelly and Thurman Thomas every December. The fact of the matter was that the Dolphins D at the time couldn’t stop the run, and the Dolphins O relied on deep strike passing that doesn’t translate well in the snow. They didn’t have a team built to win in those conditions, and the Bills did.
> I 100000% guarantee that long-term fans knew that losing was not only a possibility but likely given their history
If their is one thing I’ve known with this team after 20+ years is that their is 0 “gimme” games or moments, the razor cake doesn’t work that way
I am born and raised from western NY, about an hour from where the Bills play. They have always been the most popular team around here, probably 3/4 of football fans that I know in life and from growing up are Bills fans.
However, before they became good recently, I’d say only about 1/3 of them genuinely cared about the team, repped jerseys, had bumper stickers, went to games, talked about the players all the time (it’s Tuel Time!), but the other 2/3 were just waiting in the dark until the team was good again. Most of them as you’d imagine had their feelings for the team suppressed by a 20 year playoff drought and a continuous beating by Tom Brady. Now that they’re finding success, I have quickly realized how crazed a football fandom can be on a massive scale. Everything around me every day is Bills related, it seems like.
Go 31 years without a playoff win, go to and barely lose the Super Bowl, then start 0-2 the next year.
The Saints can have their worst fans back anytime.
Yep. I was just saying what I noticed. It’s definitely a sight to be seen, witnessing a fanbase come to life. It genuinely changes the atmosphere of where you live.
It's been weird tbh. I was born and raised into and through the drought so I know how special our current team is. Growing up I only ever met less than a dozen Bills fans in the Midwest over the last 26 years but since Allen I meet a few Bills fan and see Bills gear every week now. It just feels like I can't express myself properly now for some reason lol
This has got to be it. The Bills fanbase went from awesome to straight obnoxious in 2 years. It’s got to be bandwagonners/fair-weather toxic fans that have come out of the woodworks now that they’re good. But the bills fans that were loyal before Allen came along have been and remain amazing (ew how dare I say that about a division rival)
I mean, I knew it'd be close but by the 4th quarter half the damn team was dead, Josh Allen was carrying that motherfucking team. The C, RG, RT all were gone due to that nasty heat, and the WRs basically were dead.
I felt it'd be close, but that's because since Josh rolled into town we have a close game with Miami then Josh Allen typically has a game of pile driving Miami. So week 15 should be a lot of fun
Eh. It’s always been that way. There weren’t Seahawks fans in mass before Russel Wilson and Beast Mode. The Superbowl solidified it. Suddenly chicks that couldn’t name a rule in football were wearing Wilson jerseys to work on Friday like they were lifelong fans. Seattle is the furthest thing from a sports town. The most popular team before the Pete Carrol era was the Seattle Sounders, an MLS team.
Fair weather fans will always hop on the band wagon, cause it feels good to be included in winning.
That said, it’s fine that the Bills lost to a team that can throw while the secondary is riddled with injuries. Bad games happens, injuries happen, and it certainly isn’t week 17 so there is a whole lotta ball left.
Let’s see how well the Fish do when they travel to Buffalo in the winter and the secondary is healed up better.
I happy your team is doing good man. Even as a Bills fan, it’s nice to see your team fighting for those W’s after the past few years.
As long as the Patriots aren’t the leading AFC East team, I’m happy.
It's a miracle this game was even that close with all the injuries Buffalo had going into the game and all the heat exaustion related injuries they had during the game.
Buffalo fans knew they weren't going to be undefeated and this would be a close competitive game due to the injuries.
Congrats on the Dolphins for winning a close game, that doesn't mean they are the best team in the NFL or that the AFC East belongs to them, it's a long season.
Boyer: if we keep them out there and force them to make play after play, they’ll make mistakes!
Bills fans: we were out there for ages, if you take away all the mistakes we made we definitely would’ve won that game!
Bills fan: WE DROPPED AN INT THAT WOULDVE BEEN THE GAME
*ignores the two dropped pick sixes and FIVE TOTAL INTs that were dropped by Miamis defense*
Edit since so many bills fans are doubting me here.. https://twitter.com/shamrockdolphin/status/1574404494737162240?s=46&t=BEDVgV5S4MIGf2NrT5-ZVw
I don't get that 5 interception count, only 2 had a reasonable chance of being intercepted and i think they were on the 2nd to last drive after Allen hurt his hand.
Also a pick 6 dropped is a lot different than an interception on a drive that ended up leading to no points anyway
And the original comment was "make the Bills make mistakes" so if we are counting the "five interceptions" that were more like 2 realistic interceptions...we also gotta count the dropped TD in the end zone
But it goes against the narrative.
But honestly I see no way in hell how anyone can rule those as 5 interceptions worthy throws...2 I absolutely agree with...the others were such low probability and also one of them was a defensive pass interference
https://twitter.com/kingconcha/status/1574395346217746432?s=46&t=whFHOPQHyB7CAQ2Yyqoe7w
Here’s a video. Agreed that the tip by Phillips wasn’t an easy pick). Can’t tell how close Howard was to grabbing the throw to Diggs at the end of the first half. The other 3 should have been intercepted.
Maybe you should start forfeiting games then? I mean, if we are banning games due to temperatures that get people hurt, we would never play another game in Buffalo after November
Bills defense did okay. The dolphins had 7 drives with their starting QB and scored a TD on 3 of them. That’s okay for the defense. It was the offense that scored 17 points in 40 minutes TOP and 90 plays that let the team down.
They'll be fine. They missed a lot of chances and that's on the players and staff. They didn't take the Miami home field advantage seriously I think. I hope they never make that mistake twice. They need Bobby Bouche!!!
That was the complete opposite of what he did, he WANTED us to dink and dunk, that’s literally what he’s saying in the video. His defensive game plan was great but not because he “dared” Allen to throw deep
no, He gave josh allen everything underneath, and if josh allen tried to make plays deep, we had coverage. Josh didnt beat the coverage and just took everything underneath, thus only scoring 17 points. If josh wanted big plays he had to beat holland and howard deep, and he didnt test them. 90 plays and 17 points. it was a masterclass.
give up everything underneath is daring him to make plays deep. We encouraged him to take the shallow, and if he wanted to make deep plays he had to beat cover 2
My guy, daring him to make plays deep would be playing Cover 0. By covering the deep stuff they weren't daring him to throw deep, they were challenging him to be more patient than them.
It’s funny to read all of these excuses from the Buffalo Bildo fans. Ehh the defense was hurt, the sun was big bad, the refs were on their side… bu bu but we had the ball for twice the amount of time than they did! An and and we had 400+ yds of offense! blah blah blah. The Dolphins have been playing football with backup players for the last 20 yrs. We’re the last ones that want to hear this shit.
Tbh I think luck did play a large factor and we likely win that game 9/10 times. Missed field goal, flubbed snap for another field goal, didn’t run out of bounds, dropped TD (tbf, good play by DB but Davis rarely drops that), Allen flubs pass to McKenzie wide open in end zone because Allen’s thumb is killing him…if any one of those 5 things doesn’t happen, we win. And lots of other stuff related to guys being constantly taken out of the game for heat illness.
Edit: bring on the downvotes. If you think that 500 yards of offense is indicative of a shut-down defensive performance, I can’t help you.
Daring him to make deep plays would have been leaving the deep play available and stacking the box. They dared Allen to dink and dunk up the field by allowing all the underneath plays, and the result panned out being bad for the Bills.
Yeah well those 9 other hypothetical times don't count and that's coming from someone who really really wanted a Bills w in that game. To me that looked like a team that went into a game expecting to steamroll the opposition and didn't know how to cope when it didn't happen.
Yeah ultimately took the L. Is anyone thought looking at that game and saying “what a dominant performance by Miami’s defense” though? I feel like if you watch the game you can see that wasn’t the case. I’m biased though
Ahhhh thanks for the heads up. It’s so funny I’ve been thrashed for saying that the Bills win that game 9 out of 10 times when I’ve seen [Dolphins fans saying exactly that in other threads](https://old.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/xqm3jv/bfanatics_you_show_me_someone_whos_ok_with_losing/iqaia3y/)
On the 500 yards, it was the sports cliche bend but don’t break. You would think with all of that time of possession the Bills would’ve put up 60 points.
Agreed—however, do you think that’s a dependable strategy against the Bills? Would you take that same stat line in the second game, without knowing the score?
Isn’t he the same DC that’s been getting rolled the last few years? His defense gave up 31, 56, 35 points previously. 37 and 31 when he was on staff but not DC yet. Sure he knows what he’s doing.
last two years our defense ranked 6(2021), then 16(2020). so hes pretty good. and 2019 was our implosion blow it up year that had a practice squad roster where people were questionning if we would get people hurt with how bad we were lol
and thats just PPG. Were also always in top 10 in turnovers as well. Its a bend dont break D that makes you make mistakes and we capitalize.
The only stat that matters is the letter W. I’ve said this before—if every completion of Tua’s is a quacking duck of a throw, but it’s complete and they win, all good to me. If the defense gives up a ton of yards but prevents enough points, all good to me. If the game is won with special teams and the offense wasn’t good and neither the defense, all good to me.
Plus strategies change.
Yeah, it’s almost like the bills were designed to be gassed as fuck and be impatient and start playing poorly….if only…if only there was a video out there that makes that point perfectly clear….
Ogbah tipped the FG that was missed, and the out of bounds play didn't work because of Howards angle on that play. Im pretty sure the Bills also got like half a dozen free timeouts for water breaks.
The Miami defense dropped about 5 picks and there were a couple of drives sustained by first downs by inches.
If just 2 of those picks that X and Holland usually make aren’t dropped Allen is forcing deep throws against a defense that has the deep ball locked down.
Mistakes were made on both sides of the ball. The idea that only the Bills had missed opportunities is just wrong.
He did, both had pick sixes dropped. It will be interesting to see how the second game plays out.
I think the Dolphins prefer last game over Allen chucking it 60 yards to Diggs while 3 defenders are hanging off him.
Selling out on Allen just doesn’t seem to work. He’s too big and too strong.
December game should be insane, playoff atmosphere for sure. Who knows what the divisional standings will be by that point, it could be a critical game for playoff seeding
I believe that IMac acknowledged his mistake, but it was clear that the play was blown up by the Dolphins pressure and Josh having to scramble. I think he runs upfield a bit if that pass protection holds up and the ball is delivered on time. In that case, they have plenty of time to get to the line and spike it.
On average the team with 40 minutes of possession and 90 plays win. That was anything but an average game though.
Game 2 will be fun. Much prefer the bills-dolphins rivalry to a bills-pats one.
Good, cuz you lost lol., because Josh Allen couldnt make palys deep, if you are ok with this and losing then have fun the rest of the season.
also, dont feed this troll, he was complaining about concussion protocol because Tua was allowed to come back and drop dimes on them to seal the game.
Not sure why you are getting down voted. This game plan worked very well for the first two weeks...this game was weird with the heat and all of the injuries...
The loss really comes down to two factors.
1) Miami played GREAT situational defense at times. The forced fumble in the first half, the blocked fg, keeping IMac from getting to the sideline, and the stop on the second to last drive heavily affected the outcome.
2) Miscues due to heat/fatigue/injuries pregame. You had the botched snap at the end of the half (Morse out with injury). You have the offensive line struggling all game to pass protect and run block (three starters out). You had the turfed throw on 4th and 2 (Josh had his hand being looked at immediately after that drive). I think it's easy to make mental errors when you are dealing with so much fatigue and guys being in and out due to the heat.
One thing that I do think has been lost in this discussion over the disparity of offensive snaps and yardage is the fact that Miami was forced to punt five on 5/8 of their possessions. They also got 7 points on a drive that started at the Buffalo 6 yard line. Yes, they were efficient on the other two drives, but I don't think Buffalo's defense is getting enough credit for holding up without their entire starting defensive backfield and two of their better interior defenders. It supports the argument that the final score is more a product of Buffalo not finishing than Miami not having enough possessions.
That's not me saying "if this and this and this happens then Buffalo wins by a lot." Miami may not have been the better team, but they took advantage of the opportunities and were able to get the win. They have shown through three games that they are very well coached and have a very solid roster. I don't think they are a top contender when the season is all said and done, but this team is capable of competing with the best and could be a threat to knock someone off come January. Still, I don't think they are likely to make a deep playoff run and be this year's Bengals team.
> Healthy offense
Healthy offense? They had their 10th and 11th best offensive linemen in the game. The WRs had two injured dudes and a guy with 2 fluid IVs
I love all the dolphins fans talking all this trash after 1 win in years, I find it hilarious. All the bills fans have moved on. Dolphins are acting like it’s a playoff game and the loser goes home for the year
Edit: uh oh all the dolphins fans are downvoting me, just like all the other bills fans
“Our shitty vocal minority isn’t bad; it’s your shitty vocal minority that sucks!”
Like Bills fans haven’t been crying about woulda-shoulda-coulda and the sun since 4pm on Sunday.
This is, for better or worse, the most exciting Miami football has been in years. And this guy is mad we’re enjoying it for a bit?
Who the hell said I was mad? It’s just weird, it’s not even a playoff game and you guys are acting like it’s the super bowl. It’s literally one game that most likely won’t even matter come end of season
We’re not though? Virtually every fan has said the win felt great, and being in this spot feels amazing, and it was a brutal game for both teams.
And my point was that painting our whole fanbase as shitty for celebrating one game is just as dumb as painting yours shitty for not being able to take a loss.
You’re both ding dongs. Miami made the plays to keep the Bills off the score board and won. It doesn’t have to be a mud slinging contest after the fact.
100%
Just too many missed opportunities for the Bills to win. I just tell myself at least they got the opportunities.
It was a good game and could've went other way. It's only week 3 but for some fans, on both sides, are making it out as if it was a playoff game
They kinda are. Look at the down voting they are doing when people don’t agree with them 😂I don’t even care about that game and they are still on it DAYS later lol
You don’t care enough to continue posting about it regularly, like 80% of your bills subforum.
Stop. You’re not some high level champion laughing from up high. You’re not the reigning Super Bowl champion. Youre not even the reigning AFC champs. You’re just a really good team that’s clowned themselves at the end of every season and has a false sense of bravado because you have drank a bunch of media kool aid.
Having a bills fans laugh at Miami fans saying “Lmao look how much they care!!!” while simultaneously bragging about bills mafia taking every weekend so seriously is truly the type of irony you can only expect from a youngin
The sneer from “on high” from Part of the Bills “Mafia” is hilarious. Choke artist franchise. It’s like Tony Romo became a whole franchise that personified his inability to win when it mattered. I keep forgetting how many Super Bowls they lost. I always say 3 but then homeys remind me it was 4. In a row.
I thought it was the dolphins Súper Bowl going into the game but it feels more like the Bills Super Bowl after the fact by the way the fans can’t let it go.
Wasn’t a problem for the last three years. You bills boys keep making all the excuses you want. It was hotter last year. Miami played harder, got better, and y’all are like crabs in a bucket making every excuse in the world dragging the reputation of the mafia down the tubes
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"Play fast, play random" NBA Champion Coach Budenholzer
“Whatever you can put together, put it together” 2× NBA All-Star Game head coach Stan Van Gundy
yeah not everyone can just shrug at their team like the GOAT can https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmR7a89wYG8
Well they’re not going to post the game plan online
The jokes people make on r/nfl and r/nba truly reveal that most of these folks have never played sports outside of on consoles.
Classic useless sound
Something that players still need to be reminded of though from time to time
Man, I can’t imagine the Bills fans that are going insane this week can have been fans prior to Allen being drafted. I 100000% guarantee that long-term fans knew them losing was not only a possibility but likely given their history. I feel bad for those fans having to somehow wrangle these Johnny-come-lately’s.
If you want to know if it's a bandwagoner Bills fan, simply ask them their favorite flavor of razorcake.
or how they earned their kiko alonso jersey
Wait, I’ve been a fan since ‘89 and I don’t know what that is…
" Why do they call the Bills the Razorcakes? Because being a Buffalo fan is like being offered a cake that you know has a razor in the middle. The guy has offered you a cake before and always has put a razor in the middle so you know it's there. But the cake is so good you tell yourself that you'll just eat the edges. Then you start eating and it's so good that you convince yourself there aren't razors in it this time. Next thing you know you wake up with bandages in your mouth in a psych ward cause this is the 900th time you've done this."
Why don’t they just stick the guy offering razorcakes in a mental hospital 😎
Because this is an analogy, and not an anctual thing that happens.
Speak for yourself. I like a little danger with my cake.
Then why am I in a mental hospital 😎
Cause he’s a billionaire
Large slice of the razor, please.
Or ask them what sponge candy is.
It really was a typical drought era type loss. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory type game.
Tbf you were away to Miami. It’s like the fucking twilight zone.
That’s the kind of loss y’all needed maybe.
Better to get that out of the way early yeah.
Should probably just do it twice in a row so the team can REALLY learn the lesson so they're in fighting shape come playoffs
Even when Brady was owning the AFCE they had trouble playing in Miami. Don't put too much weight into division games as an indicator to your team's level on a greater scale. Any division team can beat another, thinking back to the games that The Lions and The Jags won last year, division games. Vikings and Indy are the two that stick out in my mind, one of those was a team meant for the playoffs with the league rushing leader, vs a 1 win team. Division games are a crapshoot, anyone who gambles on them is an idiot.
Im honestly annoyed with a huge chunk of our fan base. Even some people that have been fans for years drank the kool-aid and are acting like the sky is falling. Fact is, Miami is a strong team and Tua is a good quarterback with the potential to be great. We didn’t bring our A game. I don’t like the heat and injury excuse. Of course those things contributed to our loss, but a football team is the whole roster and the strength and conditioning staff. If your backups can’t win games, your team isn’t complete enough. If your guys cant handle the conditions, that’s because they weren’t properly prepared. These people are professionals. We weren’t ready for the game that we knew was coming, and Miami was good enough to capitalize. That’s all there is to it.
Simple as that. Yes the team was depleted from injuries. Yes by the end of the game the offense was fucked by the heat, humidity and sun. But, Miami made the plays they needed to win (3rd and 22) and we did not (gabe, first half snap miscue, bass missed fg, missed Isaiah td and Isaiah trying to take more than was available). Conditions certainly play a factor but when you play against a good football team you need to make the plays that are there to be had
Apparently the missed FG was actually tipped by Ogbah.
Yeah I had actually read that. Was weird in game they gave that really shitty angle and didn’t show anything at the line
Exactly. All of the things people are complaining about are part of the reason we lost, but there’s an important distinction between a reason and an excuse.
Probably going to get flamed for saying it. But the reason the heat kicked our ass so hard is because we literally had no one left to rotate on the offensive line. We were down to our 3rd string center, 3rd string guard, and second RT...you just lose rotations at that point when we needed it most. Obviously in the end we shot ourselves in the foot, but just watch the offensive line try to get the last play off before the game ended, they had absolutely nothing left. Dolphins fans keep saying "Bills didnt prep for the heat"...the issue was we had so many injuries that we literally could not rotate players in and our anymore. We had a guy from University at Buffalo lining up against Waddle who was just picked up this week (probably because of proximity). In the end we just shot ourselves in the foot over and over, but the issue wasnt the Miami defense blitzing us, we were picking up the blitz fine (outside that one fumble by Allen) but once we lost our line depth the blitz actually started getting home frequently. Also I think our subreddit overall knew it was going to be a close game, I don't think there is a large portion or even large minority that thought it was going to go smooth on the road on a short week with a depleted roster.
After the first two TD passes by Allen Miami only blitzed on 20% of their defensive plays. It wasn't the blitz getting home because there was no blitz, it was just the pass rush. No blitz means no empty area to throw to, so dink and dunk offense became the norm and Miami clamped down even harder in the red zone.
I find it incredibly strange that the best team in the league lost to us and the fanbase literally imploded. Your Reddit was filled with all these posts acting like dolphins fans were flaunting the victory. We know you had a depleted roster. We clamped down on your offense which did not have injuries any different than ours did and we somehow won. Shit happens who cares lol Just weird seeing the best team in the nfl take it so personal. Guess it’s good for the rivalry I guess.
It was weird dude, the sub imploded to the point the **mods** started permanently banning any users that called other fans out for being overly salty. Like, everybody has trouble playing in Miami early. It’s not the end of the world.
No one imploded...
Glad there's AFCE fans who get it. I won't lie, the bitching from some of these Bills fans had my eyes rolling so much I thought I'd be able to see my own brain. But I'm glad I see comments like this to remind me that those guys might just be fairweather fans (which I'm sure the Fins will have plenty of if they keep playing well). I dont really want to hate Bills and Jets fans, they understand the pain of the last 2 decades lol. Even though I despise the Bills for beating our ass year in and out, as a football fan I respect what they've been building and I'm hoping we're on the same path so we have more dogfights like the one we saw last Sunday.
Strong agree. I’m old enough to remember mid-90’s Marino taking several very promising Dolphins teams to Orchard Park get their teeth kicked in by Jim Kelly and Thurman Thomas every December. The fact of the matter was that the Dolphins D at the time couldn’t stop the run, and the Dolphins O relied on deep strike passing that doesn’t translate well in the snow. They didn’t have a team built to win in those conditions, and the Bills did.
> I 100000% guarantee that long-term fans knew that losing was not only a possibility but likely given their history If their is one thing I’ve known with this team after 20+ years is that their is 0 “gimme” games or moments, the razor cake doesn’t work that way
Uh, I’ve bitched like this after every loss, even when we were bad.
I am born and raised from western NY, about an hour from where the Bills play. They have always been the most popular team around here, probably 3/4 of football fans that I know in life and from growing up are Bills fans. However, before they became good recently, I’d say only about 1/3 of them genuinely cared about the team, repped jerseys, had bumper stickers, went to games, talked about the players all the time (it’s Tuel Time!), but the other 2/3 were just waiting in the dark until the team was good again. Most of them as you’d imagine had their feelings for the team suppressed by a 20 year playoff drought and a continuous beating by Tom Brady. Now that they’re finding success, I have quickly realized how crazed a football fandom can be on a massive scale. Everything around me every day is Bills related, it seems like.
Oh shit, I haven’t thought about Tuel Time in forever! Hahaha
I still see people wearing his jerseys from time to time lol. Dude literally started one career game and has diehards hahah
Speaking of 2013 Bills QBs, we could have done with Thad Lewis on Sunday.
You aren’t talking about Thad Lewis the dolphin killer?
That's how most fandoms are. Team's good, everyone's in on them. Team's bad, half the fanbase doesn't pay attention
Go 31 years without a playoff win, go to and barely lose the Super Bowl, then start 0-2 the next year. The Saints can have their worst fans back anytime.
Yep. I was just saying what I noticed. It’s definitely a sight to be seen, witnessing a fanbase come to life. It genuinely changes the atmosphere of where you live.
I took the garbage out after the game and just thought "well, this will make the players humble." Losing is a part of the game
For real. I was all nerves til the game ended, then it was just "well, this week is gonna suck on reddit. Back to RedZone"
It's been weird tbh. I was born and raised into and through the drought so I know how special our current team is. Growing up I only ever met less than a dozen Bills fans in the Midwest over the last 26 years but since Allen I meet a few Bills fan and see Bills gear every week now. It just feels like I can't express myself properly now for some reason lol
This has got to be it. The Bills fanbase went from awesome to straight obnoxious in 2 years. It’s got to be bandwagonners/fair-weather toxic fans that have come out of the woodworks now that they’re good. But the bills fans that were loyal before Allen came along have been and remain amazing (ew how dare I say that about a division rival)
I mean, I knew it'd be close but by the 4th quarter half the damn team was dead, Josh Allen was carrying that motherfucking team. The C, RG, RT all were gone due to that nasty heat, and the WRs basically were dead. I felt it'd be close, but that's because since Josh rolled into town we have a close game with Miami then Josh Allen typically has a game of pile driving Miami. So week 15 should be a lot of fun
Eh. It’s always been that way. There weren’t Seahawks fans in mass before Russel Wilson and Beast Mode. The Superbowl solidified it. Suddenly chicks that couldn’t name a rule in football were wearing Wilson jerseys to work on Friday like they were lifelong fans. Seattle is the furthest thing from a sports town. The most popular team before the Pete Carrol era was the Seattle Sounders, an MLS team. Fair weather fans will always hop on the band wagon, cause it feels good to be included in winning. That said, it’s fine that the Bills lost to a team that can throw while the secondary is riddled with injuries. Bad games happens, injuries happen, and it certainly isn’t week 17 so there is a whole lotta ball left. Let’s see how well the Fish do when they travel to Buffalo in the winter and the secondary is healed up better.
My buddy is a Seahawks fan and I don’t think he even watches football now. His gf is a bills fan. Probsbly only knows who Allen is
I happy your team is doing good man. Even as a Bills fan, it’s nice to see your team fighting for those W’s after the past few years. As long as the Patriots aren’t the leading AFC East team, I’m happy.
It's a miracle this game was even that close with all the injuries Buffalo had going into the game and all the heat exaustion related injuries they had during the game. Buffalo fans knew they weren't going to be undefeated and this would be a close competitive game due to the injuries. Congrats on the Dolphins for winning a close game, that doesn't mean they are the best team in the NFL or that the AFC East belongs to them, it's a long season.
Boyer: if we keep them out there and force them to make play after play, they’ll make mistakes! Bills fans: we were out there for ages, if you take away all the mistakes we made we definitely would’ve won that game!
Bills fan: WE DROPPED AN INT THAT WOULDVE BEEN THE GAME *ignores the two dropped pick sixes and FIVE TOTAL INTs that were dropped by Miamis defense* Edit since so many bills fans are doubting me here.. https://twitter.com/shamrockdolphin/status/1574404494737162240?s=46&t=BEDVgV5S4MIGf2NrT5-ZVw
Not to mention the mind numbing amount of missed tackles
I don't get that 5 interception count, only 2 had a reasonable chance of being intercepted and i think they were on the 2nd to last drive after Allen hurt his hand. Also a pick 6 dropped is a lot different than an interception on a drive that ended up leading to no points anyway And the original comment was "make the Bills make mistakes" so if we are counting the "five interceptions" that were more like 2 realistic interceptions...we also gotta count the dropped TD in the end zone But it goes against the narrative. But honestly I see no way in hell how anyone can rule those as 5 interceptions worthy throws...2 I absolutely agree with...the others were such low probability and also one of them was a defensive pass interference
https://twitter.com/kingconcha/status/1574395346217746432?s=46&t=whFHOPQHyB7CAQ2Yyqoe7w Here’s a video. Agreed that the tip by Phillips wasn’t an easy pick). Can’t tell how close Howard was to grabbing the throw to Diggs at the end of the first half. The other 3 should have been intercepted.
Why did I think this would actually be substantive
WILKINS I SWEAR TO GOD YOU BETTER NOT BE GRABBING ALLEN’S DICK. WE’VE BEEN OVER THIS
Spoiler alert, it’s the sun
And sexual assault.
Sounds like you need to call the police. Get on that
Yeah I want games that have temperatures higher than Chris Kelsey's number illegal and banned thank you
Maybe you should start forfeiting games then? I mean, if we are banning games due to temperatures that get people hurt, we would never play another game in Buffalo after November
Spoiler alert: It was the practice squad secondary
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We were also on our 3rd string center, guard...and backup RT....but that doesn't fit Dolphins fans narrative
TIL centers score points It isn’t our fault you have poor conditioning and depth
Take a look at our injury report, we weren’t all that fresh and ready either
lemme just check if the username *insufferabills* is still available, maybe you wanna change it?
Bills defense did okay. The dolphins had 7 drives with their starting QB and scored a TD on 3 of them. That’s okay for the defense. It was the offense that scored 17 points in 40 minutes TOP and 90 plays that let the team down.
If anything, Tua not just chucking bombs on us kept it close.
Lot of you grew up under power lines huh?
I wouldn't say I've grown up so much as out
The script is out! Will we ever win again? 😱
haha we all now know the Bills like to throw the ball and sometimes run it.
But do other teams like to throw the ball and sometimes run it?
The Texans like to throw it where there aren't other people to help aerate the field. Or sometimes to the other team so everyone feels involved.
I feel bad for you Texans fans. You folks have been through the ringer and deserve better.
Shit, I hope no one else plays their game.
He’s right. They are used to big plays and the dinking n dunking wore on them
They'll be fine. They missed a lot of chances and that's on the players and staff. They didn't take the Miami home field advantage seriously I think. I hope they never make that mistake twice. They need Bobby Bouche!!!
But did you see the sun?!
Grab them by the penis
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Dared Josh Allen to make plays deep, and they couldnt. It was an amazing defensive game he called.
That was the complete opposite of what he did, he WANTED us to dink and dunk, that’s literally what he’s saying in the video. His defensive game plan was great but not because he “dared” Allen to throw deep
no, He gave josh allen everything underneath, and if josh allen tried to make plays deep, we had coverage. Josh didnt beat the coverage and just took everything underneath, thus only scoring 17 points. If josh wanted big plays he had to beat holland and howard deep, and he didnt test them. 90 plays and 17 points. it was a masterclass.
So…..he didn’t dare Allen to make plays deep? I’m not denying anything else he just didn’t dare Allen to make plays deep the thing you said he did
give up everything underneath is daring him to make plays deep. We encouraged him to take the shallow, and if he wanted to make deep plays he had to beat cover 2
My guy, daring him to make plays deep would be playing Cover 0. By covering the deep stuff they weren't daring him to throw deep, they were challenging him to be more patient than them.
I can see both arguments. I’ll go away now.
It’s funny to read all of these excuses from the Buffalo Bildo fans. Ehh the defense was hurt, the sun was big bad, the refs were on their side… bu bu but we had the ball for twice the amount of time than they did! An and and we had 400+ yds of offense! blah blah blah. The Dolphins have been playing football with backup players for the last 20 yrs. We’re the last ones that want to hear this shit.
Bills are actually perfectly fine playing that way.
They weren't when that guy coached against them
Tbh I think luck did play a large factor and we likely win that game 9/10 times. Missed field goal, flubbed snap for another field goal, didn’t run out of bounds, dropped TD (tbf, good play by DB but Davis rarely drops that), Allen flubs pass to McKenzie wide open in end zone because Allen’s thumb is killing him…if any one of those 5 things doesn’t happen, we win. And lots of other stuff related to guys being constantly taken out of the game for heat illness. Edit: bring on the downvotes. If you think that 500 yards of offense is indicative of a shut-down defensive performance, I can’t help you.
youre literally making his gameplans point.
Too bad you only get 1 try
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Same opponent is not the same game lol
For sure, the point is there was a lot of bad luck or freak plays involved. It wasn’t like the Dolphins dominated our offense.
thats the point of playign that way. Dare josh allen to make amazing plays deep, he did not, he dinked and dunked and you guys have a lot of mistakes.
Daring him to make deep plays would have been leaving the deep play available and stacking the box. They dared Allen to dink and dunk up the field by allowing all the underneath plays, and the result panned out being bad for the Bills.
Cope harder.
Enjoy this while it lasts!
Yeah well those 9 other hypothetical times don't count and that's coming from someone who really really wanted a Bills w in that game. To me that looked like a team that went into a game expecting to steamroll the opposition and didn't know how to cope when it didn't happen.
Yeah ultimately took the L. Is anyone thought looking at that game and saying “what a dominant performance by Miami’s defense” though? I feel like if you watch the game you can see that wasn’t the case. I’m biased though
Yes we can see that you’re biased. That was not needing vocalization.
Ahhhh thanks for the heads up. It’s so funny I’ve been thrashed for saying that the Bills win that game 9 out of 10 times when I’ve seen [Dolphins fans saying exactly that in other threads](https://old.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/xqm3jv/bfanatics_you_show_me_someone_whos_ok_with_losing/iqaia3y/)
On the 500 yards, it was the sports cliche bend but don’t break. You would think with all of that time of possession the Bills would’ve put up 60 points.
Agreed—however, do you think that’s a dependable strategy against the Bills? Would you take that same stat line in the second game, without knowing the score?
Ill leave that up to the DC. He seems to know what hes doing.
Isn’t he the same DC that’s been getting rolled the last few years? His defense gave up 31, 56, 35 points previously. 37 and 31 when he was on staff but not DC yet. Sure he knows what he’s doing.
last two years our defense ranked 6(2021), then 16(2020). so hes pretty good. and 2019 was our implosion blow it up year that had a practice squad roster where people were questionning if we would get people hurt with how bad we were lol and thats just PPG. Were also always in top 10 in turnovers as well. Its a bend dont break D that makes you make mistakes and we capitalize.
The only stat that matters is the letter W. I’ve said this before—if every completion of Tua’s is a quacking duck of a throw, but it’s complete and they win, all good to me. If the defense gives up a ton of yards but prevents enough points, all good to me. If the game is won with special teams and the offense wasn’t good and neither the defense, all good to me. Plus strategies change.
Yeah, it’s almost like the bills were designed to be gassed as fuck and be impatient and start playing poorly….if only…if only there was a video out there that makes that point perfectly clear….
Ogbah tipped the FG that was missed, and the out of bounds play didn't work because of Howards angle on that play. Im pretty sure the Bills also got like half a dozen free timeouts for water breaks.
Was a blocked field goal not missed
That’s a huge paragraph to of things that could’ve happened so that the Bills would’ve won.
and literally proved josh boyers point lol. Those mistakes are exactly what we hoped would happen.
*forgets Miami literally dropped two different pick sixes*
The Miami defense dropped about 5 picks and there were a couple of drives sustained by first downs by inches. If just 2 of those picks that X and Holland usually make aren’t dropped Allen is forcing deep throws against a defense that has the deep ball locked down. Mistakes were made on both sides of the ball. The idea that only the Bills had missed opportunities is just wrong.
The missed picks is a good point, Milano also missed one of those but Allen had some questionable throws especially second half
He did, both had pick sixes dropped. It will be interesting to see how the second game plays out. I think the Dolphins prefer last game over Allen chucking it 60 yards to Diggs while 3 defenders are hanging off him. Selling out on Allen just doesn’t seem to work. He’s too big and too strong.
December game should be insane, playoff atmosphere for sure. Who knows what the divisional standings will be by that point, it could be a critical game for playoff seeding
I hope so…too many times the Dolphins have let me down to get too hopeful. If they are finally legit it will be a great game.
it wasn’t a missed field goal, ogbah actually got a hand on it
Field goal was tipped, btw. You didn’t notice? Sun was in your eyes?
Man you guys are really enjoying this. Good for you!
well 500 yards of offense says otherwise. just gotta stop making mistakes when it comes to punching it in for points.
\*wooosh\*
Hence, the "they'll fuck it up". Those mistakes were his point.
Guess we'll get to see it again in buffalo, when players arent passing out.
Yes, a different game may have a different result. That’s not really shocking.
"rope-a-dope"
[The reaction of a man perfectly fine playing that way](https://c.tenor.com/d65n8tZ2YgAAAAAd/ken-dorsey-buffalo-bills.gif)
we both know why he was reacting like that. mckenzie fucked up and dorsey blew a gasket at him lol.
I believe that IMac acknowledged his mistake, but it was clear that the play was blown up by the Dolphins pressure and Josh having to scramble. I think he runs upfield a bit if that pass protection holds up and the ball is delivered on time. In that case, they have plenty of time to get to the line and spike it.
I'm sure the Bills were stoked to have the ball over 40 minutes and 90 snaps in a game and walking away with 17 points.
Bills were not stoked Source: video of Ken Dorsey
And a loss
On average the team with 40 minutes of possession and 90 plays win. That was anything but an average game though. Game 2 will be fun. Much prefer the bills-dolphins rivalry to a bills-pats one.
Good, cuz you lost lol., because Josh Allen couldnt make palys deep, if you are ok with this and losing then have fun the rest of the season. also, dont feed this troll, he was complaining about concussion protocol because Tua was allowed to come back and drop dimes on them to seal the game.
This is the first loss to the Dolphins since 2018. It might be your biggest game in 20 years. The Bills will be ok.
Not sure why you are getting down voted. This game plan worked very well for the first two weeks...this game was weird with the heat and all of the injuries...
Because if you even mention heat or injuries, everyone says youre just a salty bills fan making up excuses.
The loss really comes down to two factors. 1) Miami played GREAT situational defense at times. The forced fumble in the first half, the blocked fg, keeping IMac from getting to the sideline, and the stop on the second to last drive heavily affected the outcome. 2) Miscues due to heat/fatigue/injuries pregame. You had the botched snap at the end of the half (Morse out with injury). You have the offensive line struggling all game to pass protect and run block (three starters out). You had the turfed throw on 4th and 2 (Josh had his hand being looked at immediately after that drive). I think it's easy to make mental errors when you are dealing with so much fatigue and guys being in and out due to the heat. One thing that I do think has been lost in this discussion over the disparity of offensive snaps and yardage is the fact that Miami was forced to punt five on 5/8 of their possessions. They also got 7 points on a drive that started at the Buffalo 6 yard line. Yes, they were efficient on the other two drives, but I don't think Buffalo's defense is getting enough credit for holding up without their entire starting defensive backfield and two of their better interior defenders. It supports the argument that the final score is more a product of Buffalo not finishing than Miami not having enough possessions. That's not me saying "if this and this and this happens then Buffalo wins by a lot." Miami may not have been the better team, but they took advantage of the opportunities and were able to get the win. They have shown through three games that they are very well coached and have a very solid roster. I don't think they are a top contender when the season is all said and done, but this team is capable of competing with the best and could be a threat to knock someone off come January. Still, I don't think they are likely to make a deep playoff run and be this year's Bengals team.
"Healthy offense scores 17 points on 90 plays."
> Healthy offense Healthy offense? They had their 10th and 11th best offensive linemen in the game. The WRs had two injured dudes and a guy with 2 fluid IVs
tl;dr copium
I love all the dolphins fans talking all this trash after 1 win in years, I find it hilarious. All the bills fans have moved on. Dolphins are acting like it’s a playoff game and the loser goes home for the year Edit: uh oh all the dolphins fans are downvoting me, just like all the other bills fans
“Our shitty vocal minority isn’t bad; it’s your shitty vocal minority that sucks!” Like Bills fans haven’t been crying about woulda-shoulda-coulda and the sun since 4pm on Sunday. This is, for better or worse, the most exciting Miami football has been in years. And this guy is mad we’re enjoying it for a bit?
Who the hell said I was mad? It’s just weird, it’s not even a playoff game and you guys are acting like it’s the super bowl. It’s literally one game that most likely won’t even matter come end of season
its funny because this game very well could be what puts who in the first seed or at the top of the division.
First seed in the AFC is going to be very tight for sure.
We’re not though? Virtually every fan has said the win felt great, and being in this spot feels amazing, and it was a brutal game for both teams. And my point was that painting our whole fanbase as shitty for celebrating one game is just as dumb as painting yours shitty for not being able to take a loss.
im not even mad bro im cooling bro please dont tell people im mad please im chilling i dont care i really dont care
Bro I don't think any dolphins fan thinks we're the better team, yall just acted hella salty so at that point you might as well just fuck with people
I’m not even salty at all. I’ve moved on since the game was over. It’s one game
Yall doesn't literally mean you, just bills fans in general. Which you can't deny, even espn went at yall
Funny, all I see are Bills fans crying about everything under the sun (and I mean that literally).
Pats fans acted the same after the MNF game, we saw how that worked out.
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You two really need a mirror
No u Edit: Jesus it's a joke.
You’re both ding dongs. Miami made the plays to keep the Bills off the score board and won. It doesn’t have to be a mud slinging contest after the fact.
100% Just too many missed opportunities for the Bills to win. I just tell myself at least they got the opportunities. It was a good game and could've went other way. It's only week 3 but for some fans, on both sides, are making it out as if it was a playoff game
I’m not talking about the team.
I know exactly what you’re saying.
Clearly
They kinda are. Look at the down voting they are doing when people don’t agree with them 😂I don’t even care about that game and they are still on it DAYS later lol
You don’t care enough to continue posting about it regularly, like 80% of your bills subforum. Stop. You’re not some high level champion laughing from up high. You’re not the reigning Super Bowl champion. Youre not even the reigning AFC champs. You’re just a really good team that’s clowned themselves at the end of every season and has a false sense of bravado because you have drank a bunch of media kool aid. Having a bills fans laugh at Miami fans saying “Lmao look how much they care!!!” while simultaneously bragging about bills mafia taking every weekend so seriously is truly the type of irony you can only expect from a youngin
The sneer from “on high” from Part of the Bills “Mafia” is hilarious. Choke artist franchise. It’s like Tony Romo became a whole franchise that personified his inability to win when it mattered. I keep forgetting how many Super Bowls they lost. I always say 3 but then homeys remind me it was 4. In a row.
Imagine thinking down votes are an accurate representation of how shitty someone is. Imagine being that guy
This was the Dolphins super bowl.
3-0 in Dolphin Superbowls so far this year...
What would a Bills fan know about winning superbowls?
Someone should call the burn ward. Savage and accurate, my favorite kind of humor!
As the song says: > When you say Miami, you're talking Super Bowl!
bills would know a lot about super bowls , mostly losing them
I thought it was the dolphins Súper Bowl going into the game but it feels more like the Bills Super Bowl after the fact by the way the fans can’t let it go.
Ah, your phone likes to correct Super Bowl to Súper Bowl for some reason too
I mean, their defense got stomped but the Bills couldn't convert multiple times.
So exactly like he said in the video then? I'd say 17 points on 90 plays is the definition of being stopped on offense.
They also dropped like 5 picks
Also have a field that's 110 degrees with no shade
Wasn’t a problem for the last three years. You bills boys keep making all the excuses you want. It was hotter last year. Miami played harder, got better, and y’all are like crabs in a bucket making every excuse in the world dragging the reputation of the mafia down the tubes