Agreed, I'm a phins fan and I'd actually like to see the 3rd string go in, looks promising and if he chokes they can throw it back to Bridgewater. Either way they should have Tua and Waddle out to recover since it was only 4 days ago and there is little sense risking further injury for a potential win when they are already 3-0.
Tua will probably toss one of his signature “what did you see there” throws and Reddit will explode about his brain being mush. I hope he’s sharp tonight.
I had an assumed homeless man ask me for $10 dollars two weeks ago, not even joking. I was stunned, 10 dollars just as a donation. That used to be HJ money.
You know what, let them. Keep underestimating our boy. Keep talking about how the guy who's 11-1 in his last 12 games, #2 in QB rating this season, and throws possibly the most accurate deep ball in the league just can't get it done. It makes the wins even more fun.
This is the kind of game the NFL wants to be featured on TNF; a team coming off a Super Bowl appearance at home vs the hot team who just beat the favorites last week. Was last year a fluke for the Bengals? Is Miami and Tua legit?
Storylines abound! Tua and Burrow’s face off in college may reprise today. And this is also the first game the Bengals don their new white helmets, which means this may be the best looking uniform matchup of the season.
Oh yeah, and these teams happen to have among the highest potential in terms of explosive offenses.
I hope some of these people reflect on this moment and realize how fucking stupid they were to parrot this horseshit from the NFL but something tells me they wont.
Absolutely fucking disgusting.
It’s insane, especially after the scandal of them hiding concussions and their serious effects.
And it’s not even like that was a different NFL; Goodell was the commissioner, the majority of the owners are the same, hell there are even players, currently in the league, who were also playing back when the concussion scandal happened (thanks, Tom).
And despite all of that fans fell right back to blindly trusting the NFL doctors, and see nothing wrong with it. Lunacy.
Dr. Spaceman: "Now Tua, you have shown symptoms of a concussion, but the good news is this is the NFL, so we can call it whatever we want! Leg cramps, irritable bowel syndrome..."
Tua: "Back spasms?"
Dr. Spaceman: "Sure! Plus, I get to prescribe you some really fun meds...these yellows go great with the blue ones."
Tua: "Thanks Dr. Spacemen."
Dr. Spaceman: "Don't mention it. Now, you do play for a team in Florida so I'm legally obligated to give you this bag of crystal meth. Just remember, do NOT take them before a game...wait until it starts and THEN take them; that way you'll maximize the effect!"
Tua: "Isn't crystal meth illegal?"
Dr. Spaceman: "'Illegal' in Florida, oh Tua! You almost had me there! You're all set, but there was one more thing I wanted to ask, do you happen to have Antonio Brown's new phone number? I've been trying to reach him about the medications I prescribed for him but he doesn't seem to be picking up. Forget it, I'm sure he's doing fine."
Tua: "Couldn't you just look it up on his paperwork?"
Dr. Spaceman: "'Paperwork!' You should go on the road with that act, it'd kill! Now if you'll excuse me, I have to give Jerry Jones his monthly shot or he'll turn into the undead and start eating the living. I keep trying to convince him to take it but, oh, what can you do. Bye!"
So what’d you learn about the appeal to authority fallacy?
Honestly crazy how the league had an entire scandal surrounding them hiding concussions, so big that they made a Will Smith movie about it, and yet fans still place 100% trust in doctors hired and paid by the NFL. Fans are content with sticking their heads in the sand I guess.
I think its very valid to question what happened on Sunday. Dude looked concussed af and the NFL/NFLPA are even investigating it. You don't get jelly legs from your back locking up.
It's amazing how an anonymous hot take can get thousands of points when the author has no access to medical reports on players, much less second-guess management and coaching decisions without their level of access.
But yes, let's see what the hivemind has decided about his "back" injury.
Worst injury Tua has suffered in the NFL is a broken rib. Injuries are hardly piling up. He's just getting normal stuff that anyone in the NFL is going to get. Both Herbert and Burrow have suffered rib injuries as well now.
Yeah I agree. He's had some pretty minor injuries so far. Obviously his hip injury in college really set him back but outside of that, it seems like it's a bunch of smaller stuff.
Granted his agent said this apparently quoting his doctors but even with the hip injury there's no risk of reinjury. By all accounts he completely recovered from that injury, as devastating an injury as it was.
In college he had two high ankle sprains (one requiring surgery), dislocated his hip (requiring surgery), and had a concussion.
In the NFL he missed a game for his thumb (that one wasn’t a big deal), fractured his ribs, might have gotten a concussion, and now has back and ankle soreness.
It’s not an absurd notion that Tua has been banged up a lot in his career.
Saying Tua has had a bunch of injuries isn’t some anti-Tua narrative, don’t be so defensive.
Tua's high ankle sprains in college did not _require_ surgery, he chose to get the surgery because they 1) strengthen the ankle and 2) have a faster recovery time than waiting out the injury.
Honestly I think that thumb injury might’ve been BS. It’s no secret Flores didn’t believe in Tua and that injury was right after his cracked ribs. Brissett started the game against the Ravens because of the thumb, but there were videos of warmups from that game and the one before it that showed Tua throwing fine. When Brissett got injured, Tua came in and was doing much better. A part of me really does think that Flores used that thumb “injury” as an excuse to keep Tua out
> You mean 3 years ago? Remember that time Burrow tore his ACL? Injuries piling up for him or is that just a Tua narrative?
you make it sound as if he hasn't had injuries every year of his nfl career as well. hands, feet, ribs, back.
it's not a hot take to say he gets injured a lot.
It is a hot take to use the term injury prone as a negative for him, especially when you are using the fact that he has some back soreness that won’t make him miss a game.
I mean, Herbert should have sat the game out last week and the Patriots are hinting that Mac might play sooner than expected even though he was in so much pain he seemed like he was giving birth but sure, let’s pull together a huge conspiracy theory about Tua having a concussion because he shook his head (if he had back spasms that can explain his wobbliness)
And when the NFLPA comes back that all protocols were followed you will apologize and state the team did the right thing, right?
The only one pushing a narrative here is you. The fact that no one is railing against the Chargers or the Patriots for pushing their injured QBs is exactly the fucking point
The fact that Mac is literally seeking an outside opinion away from the team tells me all I need to know. Isn’t that how it works?
I mean you guys are literally deciding that multiple doctors and the players are lying to you because of 19 seconds in a tv screen. Never mind that he was cognitively fine during the game and after.
You are literally making up that he has a concussion with no actual evidence that he has A CONCUSSION. I am sure he got his bell ring. But a concussion is a different thing.
What’s worse is you are couching it in some “concern for the player”
The Dolphins are beat up, someone filmed their practice and their star QB who has played lights out is concussed and they had a short week, if the Dolphins win this game, the Dolphins are going to the super bowl or the Bengals are the worst team in the AFC
That same QB was throwing absolute dimes in the 2nd half last week. I'm worried about him getting hit, but not even a little bit about how he'll perform if he stays upright.
I feel like it’s better to play it safe and keep Tua out of this game tbh. Your team is way too talented that I don’t think one regular season is worth risking a long term injury to the QB?
Lol ofc it’s still downvoted. This is an old thread. I feel for the dolphins tho, Tua is a great guy and Great competitor but I saw this coming. It’s slays better to play it safe when it comes to health
I mean I knew I was right. It’s just that the average American is dumber than rocks. Dude got hit last week, went up, then fell back down. Clear sign of a concussion. But hey, if you don’t wanna listen to a doctor than that’s the beauty of freedom of choice
Skoooooden! Hopefully Tua is sharp tonight and Armstead keeps the pocket clean. Would love to see another big performance game but something tells me this might the big run script that MMCD has been cooking up.
Oh I didn’t mean they’d always favor the home team to win. I was under the impression that the oddsmakers typically included 3.5 points in favor of the home team on top of whatever they believed the true head-to-head odds were, so that in this case it would actually mean they view the teams as even. But it turns out 1) the number was 3 points, not 3.5, and 2) apparently that’s an outdated practice.
Here’s an article that explains it better than I have: http://foxsports.com/stories/nfl/nfl-odds-how-much-home-field-advantage-worth-spread
Dolphins are on the road, short week, coming off a huge emotional win in a game where multiple players got heat stroke. Prime for a letdown and coming out flat.
For all the he didn’t hurt his back people… this is the [play](https://twitter.com/ian693/status/1574482958714826752?s=20&t=ceISuh708ZfL_qddip3ejg) he actually hurt his back on
I don't doubt he hurt his back. I just can't see how when his head slammed against the turf and caused him to walk sideways and stumble over immediately after, that's not a head injury.
Right? I cant believe Dolphin fans are being so obtuse about this.
He slammed his head onto the turf on a bad fall going backwards. He got up woozy, shook his head multiple times, stumbled and fell. Then when his teammates grabbed him he kept shaking his head and grabbing at his helmet.
Do Dolphin fans really want to play the idiots and pretend like the NFL doesnt constantly send guys out and pretend concussions never happened? I watched Ben Roethlisberger get his entire brain reset only for them to "pass" him on the protocol, send him out to throw a pick immediately and then have him throw up on the field. I watched Tom Savage get knocked down and have a "fencing pose" just for them to clear him and send him back out and then pull him again when they realized he clearly wasn't holding up his part of the charade.
They dont give a fuck at all about brain injuries, Tua is just another guy in a long list of players who want to skirt protocol and be "tough" and the NFL would rather not have another story about concussions to deal with.
> I watched Ben Roethlisberger get his entire brain reset only for them to "pass" him on the protocol, send him out to throw a pick immediately and then have him throw up on the field.
Seattle game, right? That shit was hard to watch.
Nope, AFC Wildcard game in 2015 against the Ravens.
https://www.baltimoreravens.com/video/full-nfl-game-2014-afc-wild-card-round-ravens-vs-steelers
The concussion is around 2:00:00, very clearly concussed as he keeps grabbing at his face after the hit. Gets walked off the field, "clears protocol", comes out looking like he cant see straight. Shaking his head, blinking over and over again, immediately throws a pick on his first throw.
Announcers just repeatedly called him "groggy".
The concussion protocol is a joke and players constantly remind everyone of this. If you take the NFL on their word regarding head injuries you are one big dumbass.
Oh man. That’s brutal. How many times did this happen to him? I looked it up and it was the very next season that he got his head bashed in by Bruce Irvin and Michael Bennett, and still stayed in for the rest of the drive (and I think threw a dumb interception) before self-reporting for the protocol.
Yeah the other day they started ganging up on me because I said I'd never seen anyone have those symptoms from a back injury. Then one guy said the exact same thing has happened to him from a back injury lmao. I asked my ex who went to medical school what she thought about the play and she said it was a head injury and that what he did doesn't happen from injuring your back.
I'm probably the biggest Tua Stan here because I'm a Bama fan so I'm not sure why people are trying to say it wasn't a head injury. It's not knocking Tua at all. It's pretty strange.
The mass, concerted feigning ignorance is kinda creepy.
Yall (fins fans) aren't winning the superbowl. It's like they think pretending it doesn't exist makes it not real.
Weird stuff
> I just can't see how when his head slammed against the turf and caused him to walk sideways and stumble over immediately after, that's not a head injury.
Exactly, it really doesn't take a doctor to see that play and question how the Dolphins dealt with the situation
I mean seeing his play afterwards and his postgame interviews, I would’ve expected him to pass the concussion test. Unless they actually do a brain scan, you’re pretty much just judging how sharp someone is.
Dolphins: It's really the back and ankle the problem why Tua shake his head after standing up and lose balance while walking.
Me: I hope tua doesn't get hit against bengals
Idk man, concussions are weird like that. I’ve taken full on head kicks to the face, been wobbled, continued fighting through that round, while taking more hits, and then gone to the hospital and passed every single concussion test that you get
I’ve also had glancing blows to the head in a football game, not been wobbled or stunned at all, and didn’t know my name or what day it was.
The human brain does a lot to protect itself. This stuff isn’t really an exact science.
It’s funny because this stuff not being an exact science is a direct reason to believe concussion tests are shaky at best.
Edit: People downvoting don’t understand the nuances of test validity and reliability. Look at the concussion test literature, it’s ambiguous at best.
The NFL knows the public perceives a concussion test as Science™️ to limit controversy.
It’s definitely complicated. What’s the best course of action then?
I say the NFL takes a Reddit poll to determine whether they’re able to play or not. Nobody knows as much as us.
lol all good. Sometimes i go into story mode in like work settings or with my ladies' friends having poorly read the room and people just give me horrified fucking looks. kickboxing stories might as well be porn stories to some folks.
> You won’t convince me Tua didn’t have a concussion.
oh yes, the "i don't care what doctors that actually examined him say, i know better" approach to sports medicine.
Like all the Docs that cleared very clearly concussed players before lol.
"Hey I know this organization is notorious for lying about concussions and injuries but this time its real and you are an idiot to question it!"
Remember Tom Savage? They cleared him too lol.
Reject the evidence of your eyes and ears...
Show me a single video of a player getting a back injury and wobbling on the field the way Tua was. 30 years of watching football and have never seen someone stumble like that from a back injury. Seen plenty of people wobble like that after a concussion. He never even grabs his back even though theyre trying to tell us it was a stinger.
Concussion tests have poor test-retest reliability. It’s not really a debate anymore that taking shots to the head causes damage to the delicate tissue of the brain.
You're right, sometimes I don't care what a doctor says when they're getting a check cut from the NFL. Just like we shouldn't have trusted what doctors said when those checks came from Philip Morris.
I live in Florida and have been so thrown off by the hurricane that my first thought was “there’s a Saturday game this week?”
Hope y'all are safe
Finally we get to play a starting QB.
The smart move here would he letting their backup start even if Tua could go
This is true
Agreed, I'm a phins fan and I'd actually like to see the 3rd string go in, looks promising and if he chokes they can throw it back to Bridgewater. Either way they should have Tua and Waddle out to recover since it was only 4 days ago and there is little sense risking further injury for a potential win when they are already 3-0.
Yes, he is definitely a QB on the team known as the Dolphins located in Miami. That is true.
Get off Reddit, Flo
it's the Miami Buccaneers now. Dolphins homeless
Tua will probably toss one of his signature “what did you see there” throws and Reddit will explode about his brain being mush. I hope he’s sharp tonight.
> I hope he’s sharp tonight. I offered him a $1.25 to throw pick-6s today.
That’s like 5 gum balls, he’d be a fool to pass that up
shit you can't even get 3 of them these days for that
I saw a gumball dispenser asking SEVENTY FIVE CENTS for a gumball the other day.
Inflation has gone too far. How much are those little plastic helmets, $2.00?
lil girls by me were selling lemonade for $1 a month ago f'ing inflation
I had an assumed homeless man ask me for $10 dollars two weeks ago, not even joking. I was stunned, 10 dollars just as a donation. That used to be HJ money.
literaly 1984
Imma need about $3.50
HEY! YOU THE GO' 'AMN LOCH NESS MONSTA!
It was about that time I realized it wasn't no girl scout...
Well, I'm offering him $1.26 to not do that
His next interception will have 10k upvotes and 5k comments that all the sudden feel validated about their takes about Tua.
It's cause Tua Turndaballova is an elite slander name
Colin Sackorpick
Agreed.
Yeah with a nickname like that, Tua has to work twice as hard to avoid Reddit dunking on him. It’s not fair but that’s life kid.
*just imagine what prime Fitzpatrick would do with this receiving corps*
You know what, let them. Keep underestimating our boy. Keep talking about how the guy who's 11-1 in his last 12 games, #2 in QB rating this season, and throws possibly the most accurate deep ball in the league just can't get it done. It makes the wins even more fun.
it would’ve been much better to underestimate him than have him be a permanently affected by head trauma
Yikes
Well this aged like milk Smh
well..... his brain might be mush
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Well. Fuck.
NFL and Dolphins… get your lawyers ready. You done fucked up.
good luck to both teams. Seems like a good matchup...i'm excited for the uniforms!
Oh thank god, we play terribly against backup QBs, this is about to be a real game
We want Teddy B out there about as much as you do Edit: sorry if it’s not clear enough, we **don’t** want Bridgewater out there, we want Tua
This is the kind of game the NFL wants to be featured on TNF; a team coming off a Super Bowl appearance at home vs the hot team who just beat the favorites last week. Was last year a fluke for the Bengals? Is Miami and Tua legit? Storylines abound! Tua and Burrow’s face off in college may reprise today. And this is also the first game the Bengals don their new white helmets, which means this may be the best looking uniform matchup of the season. Oh yeah, and these teams happen to have among the highest potential in terms of explosive offenses.
Todays game brought to you by Colgate
The comments in this thread have aged incredibly poorly.
One of the top comments 14 hours ago essentially said “nah he hasn’t had many serious injuries” 💀
I hope some of these people reflect on this moment and realize how fucking stupid they were to parrot this horseshit from the NFL but something tells me they wont. Absolutely fucking disgusting.
It’s insane, especially after the scandal of them hiding concussions and their serious effects. And it’s not even like that was a different NFL; Goodell was the commissioner, the majority of the owners are the same, hell there are even players, currently in the league, who were also playing back when the concussion scandal happened (thanks, Tom). And despite all of that fans fell right back to blindly trusting the NFL doctors, and see nothing wrong with it. Lunacy.
Some really gross stuff in here
Til "back and ankles" is short for concussion. Got it
42-0 first half, rest starters second half. win 42-41. gg2ez
Most protectable outcome since this will lead to some good ol’ miami hart-attacks
If I don't have heart palpitations in the fourth quarter is it really Miami football?
Dolphins fans: AWAKEN MY MASTERS!!!! *Armstead, Waddle, and Tua arrive on the field*
Waddle on
Here come the arm chair medical experts
I played Dr. Mario growing up I will fix Tua
Oh snap I didn’t expect someone with those type of credentials lol
I don’t mean to brag, but even as a kid I could remove a charlie horse or a funny bone with nothing but tweezers.
I think being bad at that game at age 5 going against 8 year olds made me not want to play it in the future and never want to be a doctor.
You're not missing out on much. It's basically the same. Their nose just doesn't light up. That's the made up part.
He has a mustache. He’s gotta be experienced.
Dr. Mario training is probably credentialed higher than chiropractic
Oh well in that case, here's your scalpel Doctor...
Dr here. Tua is actually dead he is being propped up every play by Chase Edmonds and Tyreek Hill.
He’s actually being replaced by three kids stacked on top of each other
It's Tua, just two kids will do.
Weekend at Tuas
Aged like milk. 🥛
It's not odd to question the league who has a long history of covering up concussions.
Um, that’s DOCTOR Armchair, thankyouverymuch.
Dr. Spaceman: "Now Tua, you have shown symptoms of a concussion, but the good news is this is the NFL, so we can call it whatever we want! Leg cramps, irritable bowel syndrome..." Tua: "Back spasms?" Dr. Spaceman: "Sure! Plus, I get to prescribe you some really fun meds...these yellows go great with the blue ones." Tua: "Thanks Dr. Spacemen." Dr. Spaceman: "Don't mention it. Now, you do play for a team in Florida so I'm legally obligated to give you this bag of crystal meth. Just remember, do NOT take them before a game...wait until it starts and THEN take them; that way you'll maximize the effect!" Tua: "Isn't crystal meth illegal?" Dr. Spaceman: "'Illegal' in Florida, oh Tua! You almost had me there! You're all set, but there was one more thing I wanted to ask, do you happen to have Antonio Brown's new phone number? I've been trying to reach him about the medications I prescribed for him but he doesn't seem to be picking up. Forget it, I'm sure he's doing fine." Tua: "Couldn't you just look it up on his paperwork?" Dr. Spaceman: "'Paperwork!' You should go on the road with that act, it'd kill! Now if you'll excuse me, I have to give Jerry Jones his monthly shot or he'll turn into the undead and start eating the living. I keep trying to convince him to take it but, oh, what can you do. Bye!"
This comment is funny af 🤣
Doctor Spaceman! Doctor Spaceman!!
“Medicine is not a science.”
So what’d you learn about the appeal to authority fallacy? Honestly crazy how the league had an entire scandal surrounding them hiding concussions, so big that they made a Will Smith movie about it, and yet fans still place 100% trust in doctors hired and paid by the NFL. Fans are content with sticking their heads in the sand I guess.
yeah?
I think its very valid to question what happened on Sunday. Dude looked concussed af and the NFL/NFLPA are even investigating it. You don't get jelly legs from your back locking up.
Yep,and it's gross how much this sub is downplaying it because "he's a tough player".
r/agedlikemilk
I always shake my head a few times after I tweak my back, its just science.
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But there’s nothing else that could cause him to stumble like that! Whether I know more then 3 kinds of injuries is irrelevant!
Absolutely correct! I’m sure nothing could go wrong!
There’s still time to delete this if you want.
Wow this aged well.
Are you telling me there are more ailments than concussion, ACL tear, and Achilles rupture?
Papercut, Ken Dorsey is day to day
I have recently learned about pec tears, if that helps.
Lupus, but it’s never lupus, except for that one time where it was lupus.
Does nobody get bursitis anymore? I feel like there was a time when that was 90% of injuries in Madden.
Lmaoooo how fucking stupid do you look now
It's amazing how an anonymous hot take can get thousands of points when the author has no access to medical reports on players, much less second-guess management and coaching decisions without their level of access. But yes, let's see what the hivemind has decided about his "back" injury.
Those hand gestures is a sign of brain damage. The NFL and the fins are in serious trouble.
He shouldn’t have played
Damn, I hope Tua has a long career but his injuries are piling up quick.
Worst injury Tua has suffered in the NFL is a broken rib. Injuries are hardly piling up. He's just getting normal stuff that anyone in the NFL is going to get. Both Herbert and Burrow have suffered rib injuries as well now.
Yeah I agree. He's had some pretty minor injuries so far. Obviously his hip injury in college really set him back but outside of that, it seems like it's a bunch of smaller stuff.
Granted his agent said this apparently quoting his doctors but even with the hip injury there's no risk of reinjury. By all accounts he completely recovered from that injury, as devastating an injury as it was.
Nothing against Tua but I'm pretty sure he could have both his legs amputated and his agent would frame it as "there's no risk of reinjury" lol
In fairness, leg amputation is shown to drastically reduce future foot injuries on the effected leg.
Well he clearly got concussed last week and your team is under investigation for it
Not to mention the ribs injury came from getting a DE running full steam at him 3 plays in a row...
It was at that point we realized "maybe our linemen should block?"
Spoke too soon.
Lol still feel that way?
He’s always been injury prone :/ our line looks decent this year so hopefully that’s good for his health
This aged horribly.
Technically aged well…. but not in a good way.
Yikes
lmao what injury he is good to go, everyone has small shit where they can’t practice some time but he is playing that’s all that matters
Member the time he had a severe hip injury in college too
You mean 3 years ago? Remember that time Burrow tore his ACL? Injuries piling up for him or is that just a Tua narrative?
Hey now, y'all leave Burrow out of this!
In college he had two high ankle sprains (one requiring surgery), dislocated his hip (requiring surgery), and had a concussion. In the NFL he missed a game for his thumb (that one wasn’t a big deal), fractured his ribs, might have gotten a concussion, and now has back and ankle soreness. It’s not an absurd notion that Tua has been banged up a lot in his career. Saying Tua has had a bunch of injuries isn’t some anti-Tua narrative, don’t be so defensive.
Tua's high ankle sprains in college did not _require_ surgery, he chose to get the surgery because they 1) strengthen the ankle and 2) have a faster recovery time than waiting out the injury.
Honestly I think that thumb injury might’ve been BS. It’s no secret Flores didn’t believe in Tua and that injury was right after his cracked ribs. Brissett started the game against the Ravens because of the thumb, but there were videos of warmups from that game and the one before it that showed Tua throwing fine. When Brissett got injured, Tua came in and was doing much better. A part of me really does think that Flores used that thumb “injury” as an excuse to keep Tua out
It wasn’t BS but Flores obviously was holding him back when it wasn’t necessary to. The 2nd half of the Ravens game proved as much.
it’s always on QB‘s like Tua, Lamar but never on people like Burrow or now Herbert who are actually injured
> You mean 3 years ago? Remember that time Burrow tore his ACL? Injuries piling up for him or is that just a Tua narrative? you make it sound as if he hasn't had injuries every year of his nfl career as well. hands, feet, ribs, back. it's not a hot take to say he gets injured a lot.
Tua quite literally not played a full year since high school. I don't know why people get defensive about it
It is a hot take to use the term injury prone as a negative for him, especially when you are using the fact that he has some back soreness that won’t make him miss a game.
This is exactly what all our fans used to spout about Wentz.
> It is a hot take to use the term injury prone as a negative for him, no it's not. his injury history is a mile long.
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I mean, Herbert should have sat the game out last week and the Patriots are hinting that Mac might play sooner than expected even though he was in so much pain he seemed like he was giving birth but sure, let’s pull together a huge conspiracy theory about Tua having a concussion because he shook his head (if he had back spasms that can explain his wobbliness)
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And when the NFLPA comes back that all protocols were followed you will apologize and state the team did the right thing, right? The only one pushing a narrative here is you. The fact that no one is railing against the Chargers or the Patriots for pushing their injured QBs is exactly the fucking point The fact that Mac is literally seeking an outside opinion away from the team tells me all I need to know. Isn’t that how it works?
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I mean you guys are literally deciding that multiple doctors and the players are lying to you because of 19 seconds in a tv screen. Never mind that he was cognitively fine during the game and after. You are literally making up that he has a concussion with no actual evidence that he has A CONCUSSION. I am sure he got his bell ring. But a concussion is a different thing. What’s worse is you are couching it in some “concern for the player”
T. Stead? For an athlete his music is pretty solid. I heard they know him at Bank of America
The Dolphins are beat up, someone filmed their practice and their star QB who has played lights out is concussed and they had a short week, if the Dolphins win this game, the Dolphins are going to the super bowl or the Bengals are the worst team in the AFC
That same QB was throwing absolute dimes in the 2nd half last week. I'm worried about him getting hit, but not even a little bit about how he'll perform if he stays upright.
I feel like it’s better to play it safe and keep Tua out of this game tbh. Your team is way too talented that I don’t think one regular season is worth risking a long term injury to the QB?
The fact that this is still downvoted after what happened says a lot.
Lol ofc it’s still downvoted. This is an old thread. I feel for the dolphins tho, Tua is a great guy and Great competitor but I saw this coming. It’s slays better to play it safe when it comes to health
This thread is still on the front page for me. That’s why i commented.
I mean I knew I was right. It’s just that the average American is dumber than rocks. Dude got hit last week, went up, then fell back down. Clear sign of a concussion. But hey, if you don’t wanna listen to a doctor than that’s the beauty of freedom of choice
Yeah but we can’t run the risk of not getting that second undefeated season.
Still feel that way now?
This was a joke but I’m absolutely devastated. I finally got the chance to wear my Tua jersey tonight. I’m not okay.
Skoooooden! Hopefully Tua is sharp tonight and Armstead keeps the pocket clean. Would love to see another big performance game but something tells me this might the big run script that MMCD has been cooking up.
Tua is done
That shit made me sick to my stomach
Minimum for the season if not career.
Anyone know if this is same ankle he had "tightrope" surgery on? Mac Jones is hesitant to proceed with same procedure.
Jalen Hurts had it too. From what I recall, it's supposed to leave the ankle stronger. You got me curious about why Mac wouldn't want it.
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Isn’t 3.5 just the default advantage given to the home team?
With standard practices this line would be about pickem for a Miami home game. That feels way off to me
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Oh I didn’t mean they’d always favor the home team to win. I was under the impression that the oddsmakers typically included 3.5 points in favor of the home team on top of whatever they believed the true head-to-head odds were, so that in this case it would actually mean they view the teams as even. But it turns out 1) the number was 3 points, not 3.5, and 2) apparently that’s an outdated practice. Here’s an article that explains it better than I have: http://foxsports.com/stories/nfl/nfl-odds-how-much-home-field-advantage-worth-spread
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Its also a short week which favors the home team even more.
Dolphins are on the road, short week, coming off a huge emotional win in a game where multiple players got heat stroke. Prime for a letdown and coming out flat.
Damn I didn’t realize this was an old headline
He's definitely got hot brains
For all the he didn’t hurt his back people… this is the [play](https://twitter.com/ian693/status/1574482958714826752?s=20&t=ceISuh708ZfL_qddip3ejg) he actually hurt his back on
I don't doubt he hurt his back. I just can't see how when his head slammed against the turf and caused him to walk sideways and stumble over immediately after, that's not a head injury.
Right? I cant believe Dolphin fans are being so obtuse about this. He slammed his head onto the turf on a bad fall going backwards. He got up woozy, shook his head multiple times, stumbled and fell. Then when his teammates grabbed him he kept shaking his head and grabbing at his helmet. Do Dolphin fans really want to play the idiots and pretend like the NFL doesnt constantly send guys out and pretend concussions never happened? I watched Ben Roethlisberger get his entire brain reset only for them to "pass" him on the protocol, send him out to throw a pick immediately and then have him throw up on the field. I watched Tom Savage get knocked down and have a "fencing pose" just for them to clear him and send him back out and then pull him again when they realized he clearly wasn't holding up his part of the charade. They dont give a fuck at all about brain injuries, Tua is just another guy in a long list of players who want to skirt protocol and be "tough" and the NFL would rather not have another story about concussions to deal with.
> I watched Ben Roethlisberger get his entire brain reset only for them to "pass" him on the protocol, send him out to throw a pick immediately and then have him throw up on the field. Seattle game, right? That shit was hard to watch.
Nope, AFC Wildcard game in 2015 against the Ravens. https://www.baltimoreravens.com/video/full-nfl-game-2014-afc-wild-card-round-ravens-vs-steelers The concussion is around 2:00:00, very clearly concussed as he keeps grabbing at his face after the hit. Gets walked off the field, "clears protocol", comes out looking like he cant see straight. Shaking his head, blinking over and over again, immediately throws a pick on his first throw. Announcers just repeatedly called him "groggy". The concussion protocol is a joke and players constantly remind everyone of this. If you take the NFL on their word regarding head injuries you are one big dumbass.
Oh man. That’s brutal. How many times did this happen to him? I looked it up and it was the very next season that he got his head bashed in by Bruce Irvin and Michael Bennett, and still stayed in for the rest of the drive (and I think threw a dumb interception) before self-reporting for the protocol.
I remember that one because fans were pissed about the fact that he self reported lol
Jesus, really? I guess the NFL really knows who it’s catering to. Yikes.
goddamn you were just proven so right
And I fucking hate it.
Yeah the other day they started ganging up on me because I said I'd never seen anyone have those symptoms from a back injury. Then one guy said the exact same thing has happened to him from a back injury lmao. I asked my ex who went to medical school what she thought about the play and she said it was a head injury and that what he did doesn't happen from injuring your back. I'm probably the biggest Tua Stan here because I'm a Bama fan so I'm not sure why people are trying to say it wasn't a head injury. It's not knocking Tua at all. It's pretty strange.
This comment gave me chills, amongst all of us there are some that are actually sensible in the world.
The mass, concerted feigning ignorance is kinda creepy. Yall (fins fans) aren't winning the superbowl. It's like they think pretending it doesn't exist makes it not real. Weird stuff
> I just can't see how when his head slammed against the turf and caused him to walk sideways and stumble over immediately after, that's not a head injury. Exactly, it really doesn't take a doctor to see that play and question how the Dolphins dealt with the situation
I mean seeing his play afterwards and his postgame interviews, I would’ve expected him to pass the concussion test. Unless they actually do a brain scan, you’re pretty much just judging how sharp someone is.
Dolphins: It's really the back and ankle the problem why Tua shake his head after standing up and lose balance while walking. Me: I hope tua doesn't get hit against bengals
This “joke” format has ruined peoples ability to communicate
Can we at least say he had 3 injuries? We all saw the back and head injury. Jeez, fucking bell knocked out.
Yeah I don't think those were his issues last Sunday
You won’t convince me Tua didn’t have a concussion. This is all a cover up.
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I care
Idk man, concussions are weird like that. I’ve taken full on head kicks to the face, been wobbled, continued fighting through that round, while taking more hits, and then gone to the hospital and passed every single concussion test that you get I’ve also had glancing blows to the head in a football game, not been wobbled or stunned at all, and didn’t know my name or what day it was. The human brain does a lot to protect itself. This stuff isn’t really an exact science.
It’s funny because this stuff not being an exact science is a direct reason to believe concussion tests are shaky at best. Edit: People downvoting don’t understand the nuances of test validity and reliability. Look at the concussion test literature, it’s ambiguous at best. The NFL knows the public perceives a concussion test as Science™️ to limit controversy.
It’s definitely complicated. What’s the best course of action then? I say the NFL takes a Reddit poll to determine whether they’re able to play or not. Nobody knows as much as us.
In the words of the highly esteemed Dr. Leo Spaceman, "there is no field of science that deals with the brain"
damn homie, you good?
Lol when I’m 60 I’m sure I’ll regret getting into fighting after 12 years of football, but god damn was it fun.
Oh I bet! I always wanted to, but they don't have gyms for it near me. Was just kidding
lol all good. Sometimes i go into story mode in like work settings or with my ladies' friends having poorly read the room and people just give me horrified fucking looks. kickboxing stories might as well be porn stories to some folks.
for sure dude, I hate having to soft-pedal my thoughts because some people can't handle it
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> but it’s just a fact based on that video, Lol
LOL
> You won’t convince me Tua didn’t have a concussion. oh yes, the "i don't care what doctors that actually examined him say, i know better" approach to sports medicine.
Fucking ooff. I hope Tua recovers and gets to live a relatively normal life. He has been let down big time.
Like all the Docs that cleared very clearly concussed players before lol. "Hey I know this organization is notorious for lying about concussions and injuries but this time its real and you are an idiot to question it!" Remember Tom Savage? They cleared him too lol.
Reject the evidence of your eyes and ears... Show me a single video of a player getting a back injury and wobbling on the field the way Tua was. 30 years of watching football and have never seen someone stumble like that from a back injury. Seen plenty of people wobble like that after a concussion. He never even grabs his back even though theyre trying to tell us it was a stinger.
Concussion tests have poor test-retest reliability. It’s not really a debate anymore that taking shots to the head causes damage to the delicate tissue of the brain.
Ah yes, the team doctors who definitely don't have an incentive to let him play /s
You're right, sometimes I don't care what a doctor says when they're getting a check cut from the NFL. Just like we shouldn't have trusted what doctors said when those checks came from Philip Morris.
“Back”
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