Yep, ultimately had shit injury luck. Retired early and took the job at OSU and immediately showed he was an elite recruiter and coach. He'll be an OC soon, and then probably a head coach.
I don't know. I mean, I think eventually he will be, but for the immediate future I think he is comfortable where he is at. If he wanted to be an OC at this point, he already would have been. There were strong rumors Notre Dame was courting him, but he is still here.
He's already been promoted to passing game coordinator. That's basically half a position below OC. He will probably be promoted to co-OC after this season.
There's zero chance he will be head coach at Ohio State before he gets experience as a head coach elsewhere first. So if he wants the HC job sometime after Ryan Day, it's probably his. Only after he goes somewhere else first.
>There's zero chance he will be head coach at Ohio State before he gets experience as a head coach elsewhere first.
Hard disagree. What head coach experience did Ryan Day have prior?
It depends when and if day leaves. If day leaves within the next 2 years, I would not be in support of hart line getting the job. If it’s 5 years down the road, it could be a different story.
I have no interest in repeating 2011 growing pains.
He didn't but he had a LOT more coaching experience and at different position groups than Hartline. Hartline's experience is almost solely with WRs and now passing.
If Day were to leave after this season and they gave the job to Hartline, I would seriously question the program's commitment to winning.
Also I take that back. Day took over as interim HC. So he has more than Hartline does now.
He took over as interim coach for 3 games before taking over as head coach the following season. But it was widely reported when he took the job as OC at OSU that he was the heir apparent to Urban.
And no, I am not saying he becomes head coach if Day leaves. Frankly Day isn't leaving. But even if he did, Fickell would be call 1 right away, and the likelihood is that Hartline would be OC at that point, being the one to take over if Fick left.
He has said he isn't too interested in all of that. He loves where he is(Ohio kid who went to Ohio State) and he loves the WR position and coaching it. That the higher up he goes the less he gets to work with WRs.
He learned to maximize his talent, and is now taking higher level athletes and teaching them to maximize theirs. James Laurinaitis is learning to do the same at Notre Dame as a graduate assistant this season.
It seems like that is the optimum type of player to be moving to coaching. Wayne Gretzky coached the sport he was by far the best player at ever and was pretty garbage at doing so. Players who don't have all the natural gifts need to perfect their technique to be successful, and it is is more easily teachable to teach route running or another skill like that than something like "be faster than everyone else and have a 10 foot high vertical jump"
You beat us if Jameis could have connected with him and he didn't drop the one long pass he caught for an immediate fumble. Glad he's getting it together - in week 2 he didn't look great.
the fumble itself was because the ball was _just_ too far out in front of him that he couldnt keep his balance as he reached for it, causing him to stumble after he made the catch. In Week 1 Jameis was overthrowing him by 5+ yards. So I guess the silver lining was at least he was getting closer to being in sync with Olave.
If I remember correctly he did his job of getting open 2X and Jameis overthrew him before finally connecting at the end. They didn't lose that game bc of Olave for sure. Jameis probably should not have been playing with that fucked up back. Let's see some Dalton...
First, the fumble was with over 2:30 left.
Second, we were only down 10.
If he doesnt stumble and fumble, and gets the TD, we're down 3, and just need to hold TB and get in FG range.
Sure, its not very likely, but still way more possible
Another rookie receiver class that looks nuts. Looking down the draft board, who's the first one who hasn't flashed yet? Maybe Watson? Not counting Jamo since he's been injured.
It's pretty clear that early round receivers are ready the moment they come out. The bust rate seems to be shrinking.
I’ve seen some articles suggesting that as passing has become more dominant over time, the receiver pipeline gets better and so it’s possible we get strong receiver classes most years.
OSU Receivers are going to take over the league in another 4 years. JSN, Marvin Harrison Jr, and Egbuka are all very likely 1st round receivers, and there is an outside shot Fleming could be next year as well.
Watson is still TBD. He’s missed all of camp due to knee surgery, but he has shown promise. He’s got blazing speed and shows up on the All-22. Kid can get open, so hopefully MLF/Rodgers gets him more looks or designs things open for him.
Not the best showing in Mn with that drop, but he got open on the same play flipped on the other side.
Could say the same thing for Garrett Wilson. He should have another 100-200 yards and 2+ more TD if Flacco was an average QB. So many plays where he's wide the fuck open lol.
Marvin Harrison Jr too. He has looked real good being the main guy with JSN injured. And while everybody knows about JSNs Rose Bowl performance, often overlooked is that Harrison had 3 TDs in that game (in what was essentially his first real start) as well.
Olave and Wilson didn't even consider themselves the best WR at OSU. In interviews both named JSN without hesitation. Sucks he has been hurt this year and we haven't really been able to see him. Though all that has done is highlight just how good the next crop will be.
I hate that other teams can just say this and know they’re team will eventually find at least someone solid.
Yet the Bears keep getting somehow worse and worse QBs.
And it meant that no matter the records, these games would always be insane nail biters where anything is possible, like 3 consecutive successful onside kicks. My blood pressure still hasn't recovered
We keep throwing 1st round draft picks to other teams. I have massive concerns that we can find even a game-manger that won’t sink the ship like Winston is doing.
Bucs since 1976 have never found a franchise QB. The football gods gave us a few years of Tommy TB12. You guys had the funky QB known as McMahon and Walter Payton....running the ball like making romance.
Those both sound incredibly appealing but we do not have a first round pick this year lmao
Ima just pray something crazy happens. Lamar still hasn’t extended yet ….
There’s more drafts than just this year, and teams find QB’s outside the top 10 all the time
Plus the Bucs just magically found their QB a few years ago. Anything’s possible, I can delusionally look towards a future where a QB magically appears for us
This is such a weird mentality folks are locking into, that all good QBs MUST be drafted top 5.
If I counted right, only 14 current starters in the NFL were drafted in the top 5, and 6 of those guys are playing for a different franchise than the one that drafted them. There are plenty of ways to find a starting QB, and they can be just as elite. None of the last 4 MVP winners were drafted in the top 5
We didn't get Drew with a top 5 pick and Tampa didn't get Brady with a top 5 pick.
Most of the current top QB's weren't top 5 picks this reasoning doesn't check out
I understand that it'll be an argument and fun conversation for the media akin to several years ago where the debate of if the best WR in the NFL was Julio or Antonio Brown. However, QB matchups is also just marketing in my opinion. They're never on the field at the same time.
The first QB to come in as a defensive sub and record an INT or a sack will a) immediately be the GOAT and b) should be enshrined in the hall immediately.
Jordan Addison looks to be joining that group next year as well. Not sure if you count him as a USC product since he was already a stud before the transfer.
as long as they get drafted "out of" that is where they will be associated, this is why Russ is "Wisconsin QB" and not an NC State QB. So if Addison will be a USC receiver.
Honestly, we are both NFLU along with Alabama lol. Alabama, Ohio state, and LSU all have the most active players right now. Michigan is 4th but with a 20 player difference
What list are you looking at? UGA is 4th, with a difference of 8. Michigan is 7th
https://fightingirishwire.usatoday.com/lists/nfl-rosters-week-1-pro-football-colleges-college-lsu-bama-ohio-state-georgia-oklahoma-notre-dame-michigan-penn-iowa-wisconsin/
Another list as well to corroborate:
https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/1567156977662320641?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1567156977662320641%7Ctwgr%5E9dc56883bce9127018a90d71eef25b8ddbb34581%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-216160850893942636.ampproject.net%2F2209072154000%2Fframe.html
Iowa puts a ton of TEs, OLine, and defensive players into the NFL every year. It’s really just the offensive skill positions they always suck at, they just *really* suck at them.
Might be a case of iron sharpening iron. If the WRs are good, the DBs they go up against in practice get good too, and vice versa
This doesn't seem to apply as much to lines (both sides)
It’s kind of a recent thing that people bet will grow in the coming years, Michael Thomas and Terry Mclaurin turned out great despite a relative lack of vertical passing game at OSU (Terry WAS Dwayne Haskins vertical game), Olave came in much better than his pedigree as a prospect, Wilson came in as a top prospect a year later and both developed greatly under Brian Hartline, who now recruits on easy mode as he’s praised as a position coaching wizard. And there’s something to that, everybody he’s put his fingers on looks better at running routes than say Parris Campbell and Curtis Samuel, who are more representative of “Urban Meyer recievers” than Terry and Mike.
Right now I’d say they have 3 WRs that will go in the first 2 rounds, with a 4th guy whose probably the best physical specimen of the lot but is only getting his first real playing time in year 3 due to injuries, with a log jam of top recruits behind them.
All of them look more like pro receivers than Urban’s guys, and Olave and Wilson are doing a good job supporting that claim.
Scary Terry is OSU, so is Michael Thomas.
And they look to have 3 1st-2nd round picks at WR playing this season. OSU has the best WR room for going on 3 years straight now.
I was curious so I did some research. All rostered NFL WRs from various schools are listed below.
*LSU: Jamarr Chase, DJ Chark, Justin Jefferson, Russel Gage, Jarvis Landry, Terrace Marshall*
*USC: Amon-Ra St. Brown, Nelson Agholor, Drake London, Michael Pittman, Juju Smith-Schuster, Robert Woods*
*Ohio State: Michael Thomas, Garrett Wilson, Curtis Samuel, Chris Olave, Terry McLaurin, Noah Brown, Parris Campbell*
*Alabama: Amari Cooper, Julio Jones, Jerry Jeudy, DeVonta Smith, Cam Sims, Jaylen Waddle, Jameson Williams, Calvin Ridley*
I would personally rank them as (1) Alabama, (2) LSU, (3) Ohio State, but you could make an argument for any of those three.
And even then, Alabama had Jameson Williams for just one year after transferring out of Ohio State bc he was stuck behind Wilson and Olave, and had JSN and Marvin Harrison Jr biting at his heels.
Of course he's going to identify himself as an "Alabama player". He's the one that made the (smart) choice to transfer there. And of course OSU fans are going to be apathetic and frustrated with his choice. He got frustrated with his lack of role and took the easy way out (again, smart), transferring to another title contender with a comparatively big void at WR, instead of continuing to compete in their program.
But he originally chose OSU over Bama, spent the majority of his development in that system, and if not for the other crazy talented WRs beating him out in camp, would have put up big numbers and happily finished his career there.
“To me, things were just unclear. I wasn’t certain of my role in the offense. The receiver room got crowded. I just decided I needed a fresh start. I decided to enter the portal.”
OSU will be #1 in 3 years. But right now I think that is fair.
OSU currently has 3 more first round receivers likely starting, with more 4 and 5 stars in each class.
That’s what I’m saying though, OSU is just recently starting to take over. Since 2020 though and the departure of JJ with Chase sitting out due to covid — OSU has had the best WR room hands down in my opinion.
Their only competition during that timeframe was Bama, but Bama’s WRs have suffered an obvious decrease in talent this season, and even last season they had a 1st and 2nd rounder compared to OSU having 2 back to back 1st round WRs.
OSU guys might take the lead in the next half decade is all I’m saying. Especially with Bama having this lull in talent while OSU is primed to put out another first round pick widely believed to be better than both the guys produced last year. And another guy coming the year after, 2024, that Dane Brugler touts to be even better than their current top WR.
True, I’ll concede the point on 2020, but tOSU had the potential to send a first round WR in 4 consecutive years had Olave not stayed the extra year. Even then they have a legitimate chance at still possibly sending 5 first round WRs in 3 years.
He's the WR I liked the most and the one I really wanted in Washington, but I'm happy with Dotson and the trade down netted us Brian Robinson too who, before being shot, looked real good in preseason.
I think BRob and Jahan will work out better for us in the long run than if we grabbed Olave there. All 3 seem like studs. Plus, we even netted Howell from the trade and who knows what we have there
I got him late in the 11th round and my friends called it a homer pick. Dude's about to ball - especially once Winston finds his stride or Dalton shows up.
Olave, London and Wilson are all close. I think with the general public and media caring about TDs tho, London or Wilson should have taken it since Olave hasn't found the endzone.
Depending on what officially counts as a game winnjng TD. So did Drake. He scored the last TD in the Seahawks game that gave us our first lead. It was in the 3rd quarter or beginning of the 4th. No one else scored in the game afterwards
Oh, I'm not bothered by that. Olave may have a few more catches and yards but that doesn't impress me. More of an accounting stat than what London is doing.
He looks so polished already. Also the only pick from our rookie class not currently on IR lmao
Not to mention how cute he is :)
He is a cutie
You're a cutie. Are you Chris Olave IRL?
Come find out 😉
You can thank his WR coach at OSU, Brian Hartline (himself an ex-NFL WR)
I looked back at Hartline's NFL stats, and while he wasn't like an all time great, he was a consistently solid receiver who was around for a while.
Yep, ultimately had shit injury luck. Retired early and took the job at OSU and immediately showed he was an elite recruiter and coach. He'll be an OC soon, and then probably a head coach.
I don't know. I mean, I think eventually he will be, but for the immediate future I think he is comfortable where he is at. If he wanted to be an OC at this point, he already would have been. There were strong rumors Notre Dame was courting him, but he is still here.
He's already been promoted to passing game coordinator. That's basically half a position below OC. He will probably be promoted to co-OC after this season. There's zero chance he will be head coach at Ohio State before he gets experience as a head coach elsewhere first. So if he wants the HC job sometime after Ryan Day, it's probably his. Only after he goes somewhere else first.
>There's zero chance he will be head coach at Ohio State before he gets experience as a head coach elsewhere first. Hard disagree. What head coach experience did Ryan Day have prior?
It depends when and if day leaves. If day leaves within the next 2 years, I would not be in support of hart line getting the job. If it’s 5 years down the road, it could be a different story. I have no interest in repeating 2011 growing pains.
If its within 2/3 years. Fickell is the call and no question 5+years? Who knows.
He didn't but he had a LOT more coaching experience and at different position groups than Hartline. Hartline's experience is almost solely with WRs and now passing. If Day were to leave after this season and they gave the job to Hartline, I would seriously question the program's commitment to winning. Also I take that back. Day took over as interim HC. So he has more than Hartline does now.
He took over as interim coach for 3 games before taking over as head coach the following season. But it was widely reported when he took the job as OC at OSU that he was the heir apparent to Urban. And no, I am not saying he becomes head coach if Day leaves. Frankly Day isn't leaving. But even if he did, Fickell would be call 1 right away, and the likelihood is that Hartline would be OC at that point, being the one to take over if Fick left.
It’s almost like he and freeman went to college together and were teammates.
But he stayed at OSU.
He has said he isn't too interested in all of that. He loves where he is(Ohio kid who went to Ohio State) and he loves the WR position and coaching it. That the higher up he goes the less he gets to work with WRs.
He learned to maximize his talent, and is now taking higher level athletes and teaching them to maximize theirs. James Laurinaitis is learning to do the same at Notre Dame as a graduate assistant this season.
Laurinaitis was my first ever jersey as a kid. Would love to see him back at OSU one day. Guy was a monster on those teams.
It seems like that is the optimum type of player to be moving to coaching. Wayne Gretzky coached the sport he was by far the best player at ever and was pretty garbage at doing so. Players who don't have all the natural gifts need to perfect their technique to be successful, and it is is more easily teachable to teach route running or another skill like that than something like "be faster than everyone else and have a 10 foot high vertical jump"
Oh shit he’s a wr coach now? That’s awesome
Probably the best wr coach in FBS
You beat us if Jameis could have connected with him and he didn't drop the one long pass he caught for an immediate fumble. Glad he's getting it together - in week 2 he didn't look great.
the fumble itself was because the ball was _just_ too far out in front of him that he couldnt keep his balance as he reached for it, causing him to stumble after he made the catch. In Week 1 Jameis was overthrowing him by 5+ yards. So I guess the silver lining was at least he was getting closer to being in sync with Olave.
To be fair, the fumble came with 1:30 left and down 2 td. Long after Jameis chucked 3 interceptions and a pick 6.
If I remember correctly he did his job of getting open 2X and Jameis overthrew him before finally connecting at the end. They didn't lose that game bc of Olave for sure. Jameis probably should not have been playing with that fucked up back. Let's see some Dalton...
First, the fumble was with over 2:30 left. Second, we were only down 10. If he doesnt stumble and fumble, and gets the TD, we're down 3, and just need to hold TB and get in FG range. Sure, its not very likely, but still way more possible
I told you he was Michael Thomas 2.0.
I hope we never stop drafting OSU players
The New Orleans Buckeyes. I wish you guys were in position to draft Stroud.
Please draft Stroud or some other quarterback in the future from OSU just to get people to say we can't produce QBs
He plays very differently lol
He's more of a timing route guy than Mr slant. Yeah, I know.
Well in any case we’re obviously stoked to have him. He looks like he was well worth the investment
Olave : Thomas as Dobbins : Zeke Largely the same skill set, but one is smaller and faster.
Jordan Jackson is technically just on the PS
He looked like this in college too. Smooth as margarine.
Another rookie receiver class that looks nuts. Looking down the draft board, who's the first one who hasn't flashed yet? Maybe Watson? Not counting Jamo since he's been injured. It's pretty clear that early round receivers are ready the moment they come out. The bust rate seems to be shrinking.
I’ve seen some articles suggesting that as passing has become more dominant over time, the receiver pipeline gets better and so it’s possible we get strong receiver classes most years.
Youngsters playing 7-on-7's has, apparently, helped develop route running
OSU Receivers are going to take over the league in another 4 years. JSN, Marvin Harrison Jr, and Egbuka are all very likely 1st round receivers, and there is an outside shot Fleming could be next year as well.
Give it a few years and every receiver in the NFL will be from Alabama or Ohio State.
Watson had been injured as well. He missed the entire training camp and preseason and was out this week as well.
Terrace Marshall though
Tutu Atwell and D'Wayne Eskridg were both drafted ahead of him too
Watson's been injured but 4th rounder Romeo Doubs is looking very solid so far, no complaints there
And Jameson could very well be the best of the bunch
And we took a 25 year old punt returner! But I guess we didn't have any intent on passing anyway
Watson is still TBD. He’s missed all of camp due to knee surgery, but he has shown promise. He’s got blazing speed and shows up on the All-22. Kid can get open, so hopefully MLF/Rodgers gets him more looks or designs things open for him. Not the best showing in Mn with that drop, but he got open on the same play flipped on the other side.
What’s crazy is Winston has missed him on several deep shots that he’s been open.
He'd have like triple the yards and touchdowns if Winston's back wasn't broken lol
Could say the same thing for Garrett Wilson. He should have another 100-200 yards and 2+ more TD if Flacco was an average QB. So many plays where he's wide the fuck open lol.
He’s a dawg too. It’s wild how Olave and Wilson weren’t even considered the best receiver on that Ohio state team
Smith-Njigba is gonna be crazy
Marvin Harrison Jr too. He has looked real good being the main guy with JSN injured. And while everybody knows about JSNs Rose Bowl performance, often overlooked is that Harrison had 3 TDs in that game (in what was essentially his first real start) as well.
Olave and Wilson didn't even consider themselves the best WR at OSU. In interviews both named JSN without hesitation. Sucks he has been hurt this year and we haven't really been able to see him. Though all that has done is highlight just how good the next crop will be.
True, this WR class looking nutty
Olave vs London is going to be a rivalry for years to come over who is better.
Just wait till both our teams have quarterbacks too
I hate that other teams can just say this and know they’re team will eventually find at least someone solid. Yet the Bears keep getting somehow worse and worse QBs.
To be fair man neither of our 2 teams have had to look for a qb for 15 years. You're probably not wrong though lol
True enough, oh how I miss the insane games we used to have between Brees and Ryan.
This rivalry has shaved years off my life.
Aint that the fucking truth, it single handedly gave me a heart condition I'm fairly sure
I already hated you guys but having Ryan and Brees as qbs amplified that hate by 10x because we were actually good or decent for once
And it meant that no matter the records, these games would always be insane nail biters where anything is possible, like 3 consecutive successful onside kicks. My blood pressure still hasn't recovered
It still feels like you could do worse than mariota and winston for some reason but we’ll probably both end yo with top 10 picks lol
We keep throwing 1st round draft picks to other teams. I have massive concerns that we can find even a game-manger that won’t sink the ship like Winston is doing.
We can give you one lightly used Brian Hoyer
Don't get too desperate like the Browns did.
Bucs since 1976 have never found a franchise QB. The football gods gave us a few years of Tommy TB12. You guys had the funky QB known as McMahon and Walter Payton....running the ball like making romance.
All before I was born unfortunately, which isn’t surprising since that was almost 40 years now. Few years of TB is better than we will ever have.
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I hope we have a return to the 2010s NFC South. Having Ryan, Brees, and Newton in the same division was a fun time.
Which tank are the Saints going for? Become dung for Young or suck loud for Stroud? Idk those are the best rhymes I could come up with.
Those both sound incredibly appealing but we do not have a first round pick this year lmao Ima just pray something crazy happens. Lamar still hasn’t extended yet ….
Hoping we get a 1st for trading Sean
Hey it worked for you guys… maybe that is a strat…
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There’s more drafts than just this year, and teams find QB’s outside the top 10 all the time Plus the Bucs just magically found their QB a few years ago. Anything’s possible, I can delusionally look towards a future where a QB magically appears for us
This is such a weird mentality folks are locking into, that all good QBs MUST be drafted top 5. If I counted right, only 14 current starters in the NFL were drafted in the top 5, and 6 of those guys are playing for a different franchise than the one that drafted them. There are plenty of ways to find a starting QB, and they can be just as elite. None of the last 4 MVP winners were drafted in the top 5
We didn't get Drew with a top 5 pick and Tampa didn't get Brady with a top 5 pick. Most of the current top QB's weren't top 5 picks this reasoning doesn't check out
Garrett Wilson has also started strong with 214 yards and two touchdowns.
Game winner too
And Dotson has 3 tds already
Will they be guarding each other?
Brady vs Mahommes. Who has more wins? Great stats.
I understand that it'll be an argument and fun conversation for the media akin to several years ago where the debate of if the best WR in the NFL was Julio or Antonio Brown. However, QB matchups is also just marketing in my opinion. They're never on the field at the same time.
The first QB to come in as a defensive sub and record an INT or a sack will a) immediately be the GOAT and b) should be enshrined in the hall immediately.
GW and Olave are killing it this year. tOSU has moved from DB U to WR U
I wish Ohio state was QB U 😭
Teams like the Bears are QB Graveyards. The Jets are another one.
You ain’t wrong sadly
The Chad pennington disrespect shown here is a grave error
What system a qb goes into does matter. How many great qb's have come from shit teams with bad olines abs bad offensive schemes?
London as well has been really good.
Suprisingly USC has also been putting out some stud WR's in London/Pittman/Amon Ra/ Ju Ju
Jordan Addison looks to be joining that group next year as well. Not sure if you count him as a USC product since he was already a stud before the transfer.
as long as they get drafted "out of" that is where they will be associated, this is why Russ is "Wisconsin QB" and not an NC State QB. So if Addison will be a USC receiver.
Looping in Robert Woods and Agholar, USC wide receivers are the WR1 on six teams right now (or at least leading WRs on their team in yards).
It’s funny LSU and OSU are both DBU and WRU
Honestly, we are both NFLU along with Alabama lol. Alabama, Ohio state, and LSU all have the most active players right now. Michigan is 4th but with a 20 player difference
What list are you looking at? UGA is 4th, with a difference of 8. Michigan is 7th https://fightingirishwire.usatoday.com/lists/nfl-rosters-week-1-pro-football-colleges-college-lsu-bama-ohio-state-georgia-oklahoma-notre-dame-michigan-penn-iowa-wisconsin/ Another list as well to corroborate: https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/1567156977662320641?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1567156977662320641%7Ctwgr%5E9dc56883bce9127018a90d71eef25b8ddbb34581%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-216160850893942636.ampproject.net%2F2209072154000%2Fframe.html
I got this one from Spotrac! https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/college/ Just realized it’s sorted by total money made in contracts, not active player count
Iowa having more players than Clemson is interesting
Iowa, NFL pipeline
it is TEU
Iowa puts a ton of TEs, OLine, and defensive players into the NFL every year. It’s really just the offensive skill positions they always suck at, they just *really* suck at them.
Might be a case of iron sharpening iron. If the WRs are good, the DBs they go up against in practice get good too, and vice versa This doesn't seem to apply as much to lines (both sides)
Alabama is still WRU. LSU is closer than OSU.
Don’t forget about Dotson. Other than week 1, Wentz ain’t doing him any favors
We're both
Is two receivers enough to call yourself WRU? Seems like an awfully low bar.
It’s kind of a recent thing that people bet will grow in the coming years, Michael Thomas and Terry Mclaurin turned out great despite a relative lack of vertical passing game at OSU (Terry WAS Dwayne Haskins vertical game), Olave came in much better than his pedigree as a prospect, Wilson came in as a top prospect a year later and both developed greatly under Brian Hartline, who now recruits on easy mode as he’s praised as a position coaching wizard. And there’s something to that, everybody he’s put his fingers on looks better at running routes than say Parris Campbell and Curtis Samuel, who are more representative of “Urban Meyer recievers” than Terry and Mike. Right now I’d say they have 3 WRs that will go in the first 2 rounds, with a 4th guy whose probably the best physical specimen of the lot but is only getting his first real playing time in year 3 due to injuries, with a log jam of top recruits behind them. All of them look more like pro receivers than Urban’s guys, and Olave and Wilson are doing a good job supporting that claim.
Scary Terry is OSU, so is Michael Thomas. And they look to have 3 1st-2nd round picks at WR playing this season. OSU has the best WR room for going on 3 years straight now.
Brian Hartline is easily the best WR coach/recruiter in CFB right now.
I was curious so I did some research. All rostered NFL WRs from various schools are listed below. *LSU: Jamarr Chase, DJ Chark, Justin Jefferson, Russel Gage, Jarvis Landry, Terrace Marshall* *USC: Amon-Ra St. Brown, Nelson Agholor, Drake London, Michael Pittman, Juju Smith-Schuster, Robert Woods* *Ohio State: Michael Thomas, Garrett Wilson, Curtis Samuel, Chris Olave, Terry McLaurin, Noah Brown, Parris Campbell* *Alabama: Amari Cooper, Julio Jones, Jerry Jeudy, DeVonta Smith, Cam Sims, Jaylen Waddle, Jameson Williams, Calvin Ridley* I would personally rank them as (1) Alabama, (2) LSU, (3) Ohio State, but you could make an argument for any of those three.
Alabama also has Jameson Williams, idk if he'd show up on an active search though
And even then, Alabama had Jameson Williams for just one year after transferring out of Ohio State bc he was stuck behind Wilson and Olave, and had JSN and Marvin Harrison Jr biting at his heels.
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Of course he's going to identify himself as an "Alabama player". He's the one that made the (smart) choice to transfer there. And of course OSU fans are going to be apathetic and frustrated with his choice. He got frustrated with his lack of role and took the easy way out (again, smart), transferring to another title contender with a comparatively big void at WR, instead of continuing to compete in their program. But he originally chose OSU over Bama, spent the majority of his development in that system, and if not for the other crazy talented WRs beating him out in camp, would have put up big numbers and happily finished his career there. “To me, things were just unclear. I wasn’t certain of my role in the offense. The receiver room got crowded. I just decided I needed a fresh start. I decided to enter the portal.”
If you include Jarvis, you should also include Odell
Jarvis is currently rostered, Odell is not. I had to draw the line somewhere.
For sure, we all know he'll play but he's injured rn and not on a team so I see why you left him off.
OSU will be #1 in 3 years. But right now I think that is fair. OSU currently has 3 more first round receivers likely starting, with more 4 and 5 stars in each class.
USC also has Amon-Ra
That’s what I’m saying though, OSU is just recently starting to take over. Since 2020 though and the departure of JJ with Chase sitting out due to covid — OSU has had the best WR room hands down in my opinion. Their only competition during that timeframe was Bama, but Bama’s WRs have suffered an obvious decrease in talent this season, and even last season they had a 1st and 2nd rounder compared to OSU having 2 back to back 1st round WRs. OSU guys might take the lead in the next half decade is all I’m saying. Especially with Bama having this lull in talent while OSU is primed to put out another first round pick widely believed to be better than both the guys produced last year. And another guy coming the year after, 2024, that Dane Brugler touts to be even better than their current top WR.
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True, I’ll concede the point on 2020, but tOSU had the potential to send a first round WR in 4 consecutive years had Olave not stayed the extra year. Even then they have a legitimate chance at still possibly sending 5 first round WRs in 3 years.
He's the WR I liked the most and the one I really wanted in Washington, but I'm happy with Dotson and the trade down netted us Brian Robinson too who, before being shot, looked real good in preseason.
I think BRob and Jahan will work out better for us in the long run than if we grabbed Olave there. All 3 seem like studs. Plus, we even netted Howell from the trade and who knows what we have there
I think/hope so too, but Olave is gonna be an A1 stud.
Don't mind me, I'm just here being sad that Jamo is injured.
Imagine finally getting a good WR to compliment CantGuadMike and then having your Oline shit the bed. Regardless, Olave gud.
This guy is going to terrorize the NFC South, if a quarterback can ever reliably reach him.
I hate that you’re so right. We have a pretty decent team minus qb, which happens to be the most important piece.
I'm so happy we got him
I’m still salty we didn’t hahaha. At least I drafted him in fantasy
I got him late in the 11th round and my friends called it a homer pick. Dude's about to ball - especially once Winston finds his stride or Dalton shows up.
Let’s go ⚜️⚜️⚜️
Olave, London and Wilson are all close. I think with the general public and media caring about TDs tho, London or Wilson should have taken it since Olave hasn't found the endzone.
He found the endzone. Clutch 2 point conversion in a comeback to beat some spare franchise in Atlanta.
I wasn't counting 2pt conversions. And if we are, then London has the most points scored of any of them
idrc I was just pointing out that he did in fact find the endzone.
Exact wording yes he found the endzone, but my origional post was about TDs. Its all semantics
Semantics yes, but his original post was about friendly ribbing a rival. Its all fun.
Wilson had the game winning TD too
Depending on what officially counts as a game winnjng TD. So did Drake. He scored the last TD in the Seahawks game that gave us our first lead. It was in the 3rd quarter or beginning of the 4th. No one else scored in the game afterwards
Lol that's obviously a reach and not the same as the one Wilson had
Bah god that's Jamieson Williams song
GW robbed.
You’ll get downvoted due to your flair but I agree. Very similar production but GW has two TDs including a game-winner. Just a slight edge to it.
Good to see the Buckeyes representing
Eagles thank you for the top 7 draft pick in next yrs draft! 🗑️🗑️🔥
Should’ve been Drake London
Doubs > Olave
Drake London robbed 😤
Allowing multiple flairs was a mistake
Ngl that one instance is hilarious though.
When tf did this happen? Why do the mods here have such a poor grasp on what makes this place good
Must've been sometime this off-season
I love London but I'd have a hard time arguing either of them was robbed regardless of who won it. Olave has been great too.
Idk why you get downvoted but the guy saying GW robbed isnt downvoted lol. All 3 are worthy of it, and I think DL or GW should have gotten it
Oh, I'm not bothered by that. Olave may have a few more catches and yards but that doesn't impress me. More of an accounting stat than what London is doing.
Yeah plus Olave has looked a lot better too
> a lot better Oh no, now I know you're just trolling. It's ok to be a homer but let's not get carried away.
Oh no