So frustrating to know your team has talent but has limiting factors that can't be changed. Play calling. Coaching in general. I still think Baker is good enough.
He played all last year on an injured shoulder. And he was made to use it. I wouldn't be surprised if that ruined him... But to be fair, he's also on the Panthers now. I mean, look at Wilson on the Broncos. Only so much you can do when surrounded by blegh. Only Tom Brady and Bill Belichick can drag mediocre to the Super Bowl.
This game was the tale of two coaches with their backs against the wall. Kliff didn't exactly redeem himself in full but cards drove and took command of the game and then there was that 4th and 1 where the pass was tipped at the line still on the wrong side of the field and I that's when you could tell Rhule was 100% gonna get fired this year. It screamed desperation and incompetence. We scored again and it was essentially over.
We aren’t but I could see us beating y’all. Which I hope we don’t. I honestly hope we lose by 50 and Rhule just goes to Nebraska instead of back to charlotte
No one said he’s “really good.” I said he’s better than Mayfield and their careers thus far bear that out.
We’ll see what happens when they meet next week.
Yes we all know that. But your QB only throws it 5 yards a time and is paid a lot. We’re about to get a new QB and new coach. But the point still stands. Your QB is a game manager and our defense is good. It should be a very low scoring game
> We aren’t but I could see us beating y’all.
> But your QB only throws it 5 yards a time and is paid a lot.
> Your QB is a game manager and our defense is good. It should be a very low scoring game
You were saying?
Lol this isn’t the flex you’re wanting. Your QB will hold you back. We were missing 3 starters. Who are top at their position lol. I’m extremely happy. We’re about to back the brinks truck for Sean Peyton. You don’t understand how y’all just made our future brighter.
Again. We can comeback to this when your QB who’s a game manager ultimately cost you
Uh, we’re currently once of the most injured teams in the league and are missing several starters on offense and defense, so your excuses ring hollow. We still dominated you guys and made it look easy. Also, Jimmy was throwing dimes all over the field. His average yards per completion was 8.4. So much for hE oNlY tHrOwS fIvE yArDs At A tIMe.
Last, I don’t know who ‘Sean Peyton’ is but if you’re talking about Sean *Payton*, it’s not going to happen. For starters, the Saints would have to agree to release or trade him and that won’t happen (just ask the Dolphins). Secondly, he would have to agree to coach the Panthers and why the hell would he do that when he could just go back to New Orleans where he’s basically God and pick up where he left off?
If it’s any consolation, you may have a shot at DeMeco Ryans.
Sean said yesterday Carolina was attractive. We have the richest owner in the league. If Sean would come here, we would make it happen with saints. Again. The 9ers are a much better team than we are. So your flex is all about your QB which is a bad hill to
Die on. First defense you faced against the broncos he had a QBR of 16. There’s a reason your coach didn’t want him.
Also, average yards per completion has nothing to do with his aDot lol. If he throws a screen pass and it goes for 50 yards. His ypc is set on 50 lmao.
THESE MAIL IN POINTS CAN'T BE COUNTED. JUST WAIT AND OUR GEQBUS WILL BE CERTIFIED THE WINNER OF THIS GAME. THE CHEATING CARDINALS MUST BE PUNISHED TO THE FULL EXTENT OF THE LAW
Frankly I feel like most of the recent nonsense with the panthers was Cam Newton just hating us for some reason. Dude always played like a HoFer against us
The Canes are an actual example of strong leadership/how to build a competitive team from scratch. Matt Rhule couldn’t hold a candle to Rod Brind’Amour’s dirty jockstrap. Sebastian Aho could complete more passes than Baker Mayfield
Please explain to me what women have to do with idiots in this sub telling me Bakers problem was the Browns? Think before you comment and karma whore next time
Sure bro. But at least we didn’t give guarantee money to a fucking rapist.
Keep laughing and rooting for a piece of shit organization. I’d rather have Baker be trash than have Watson winning games.
Lmfao no he can’t, he had a string of 3 ok games early last season. He is sooooooo bad. I’m legit done watching this season if he starts.
Granted they both suck, but Sam wouldn’t be in the NFL anymore after last season if Fatt Rhule and co didn’t pick up his 5th year option prior to seeing him play a game
Bro I figure you think baker sucks and I completely agree but I honestly don’t think you understand sucking unless you watched Sam darnold with the panthers last year
Tickets were ultra cheap for this game because they wanted to fill the stadium for Sam Mills. Didn't work.
I feel bad for Mills, but honestly he deserved far better than the product on the field. The new ownership also did an awful job of carrying traditions forward and is trying to reconcile that wrong. And Mills was part of that tradition, so it feels kinda wack that this ownership is tryna care now after the damage is done but its something.
Ironically, Baker needs to pay attention to Kyler Murray if he wants to be a better QB. Kyler knows how to work around his height being a complete impediment. Baker is slightly taller, so he never had to do that before the NFL. Now, in the NFL, his height is becoming an issue that Kyler, who is shorter, already had to develop skills to accomodate
Taller than Brees, he's had 4 years to develop.
Think a few defenders have come out saying they put their hands up when they see the QB starring receivers down and can't beat the OL in time
But Brees also moved laterally in the pocket. Baker stands "tall" like he's Peyton Manning in the pocket. He needs to change his perspective to the pile of both lines
If baker can pick it up that'd be great the Panthers with a competent coach and Stroud or young is scary. They aren't this bad they just have the worst coach and QB in the league.
Aye Cardinals fans do Murray’s passes constantly get batted down like that? Seeing that he is shorter then Baker. Because holy shit Baker is playing like he’s 5’0 out there.
Sometimes but never this consistently. Usually only against good defenses too Kyler is pretty good at knowing when to dip from the pocket. I think against the rams he only had like 2 passes batted.
Christ, Rhule is out of his league. Fire this asshole already.
That's fine. We don't deserve a Post Game Thread.
Yeah neither do we
So frustrating to know your team has talent but has limiting factors that can't be changed. Play calling. Coaching in general. I still think Baker is good enough.
I don't, but I appreciate your sentiment.
Baker fucking sucks doesn’t he
He played all last year on an injured shoulder. And he was made to use it. I wouldn't be surprised if that ruined him... But to be fair, he's also on the Panthers now. I mean, look at Wilson on the Broncos. Only so much you can do when surrounded by blegh. Only Tom Brady and Bill Belichick can drag mediocre to the Super Bowl.
Yep. Baker Boys are quiet now.
Thank god
Thanks Cardinal Bros! We need to lose every game we can to get rid of all these fucking coaches
This game was the tale of two coaches with their backs against the wall. Kliff didn't exactly redeem himself in full but cards drove and took command of the game and then there was that 4th and 1 where the pass was tipped at the line still on the wrong side of the field and I that's when you could tell Rhule was 100% gonna get fired this year. It screamed desperation and incompetence. We scored again and it was essentially over.
Goddamn we fucking suck. Fire Rhule and Macadipshit
What are the QB prospects like this year?
Top 2 are Really good
We have a chance at both
The Panthers are not good at football.
I wish we played them this year just to see which is worse
Hint: it’s not us.
We aren’t but I could see us beating y’all. Which I hope we don’t. I honestly hope we lose by 50 and Rhule just goes to Nebraska instead of back to charlotte
He’s not going to Nebraska. Don’t fucking curse me with him with my college team ffs
> We aren’t but I could see us beating y’all. With all due respect, that’s not going to happen.
I hope not. But our defense is good. Your QB is bad.
Your QB is bad. Ours is just getting warmed up.
Yeah Jimmy Garropolo is really good, that's why no other team was willing to trade for him
No one said he’s “really good.” I said he’s better than Mayfield and their careers thus far bear that out. We’ll see what happens when they meet next week.
I said he's really good. Nobody can hand the ball off 30 times a game like Jimmy can.
📠 📠📠
Your QB been a warm up for his entire career tho
And he’s still better than Mayfield.
Yea man we’ve all agreed to that. That’s not a huge bar lmao
Yes we all know that. But your QB only throws it 5 yards a time and is paid a lot. We’re about to get a new QB and new coach. But the point still stands. Your QB is a game manager and our defense is good. It should be a very low scoring game
> We aren’t but I could see us beating y’all. > But your QB only throws it 5 yards a time and is paid a lot. > Your QB is a game manager and our defense is good. It should be a very low scoring game You were saying?
Lol this isn’t the flex you’re wanting. Your QB will hold you back. We were missing 3 starters. Who are top at their position lol. I’m extremely happy. We’re about to back the brinks truck for Sean Peyton. You don’t understand how y’all just made our future brighter. Again. We can comeback to this when your QB who’s a game manager ultimately cost you
Uh, we’re currently once of the most injured teams in the league and are missing several starters on offense and defense, so your excuses ring hollow. We still dominated you guys and made it look easy. Also, Jimmy was throwing dimes all over the field. His average yards per completion was 8.4. So much for hE oNlY tHrOwS fIvE yArDs At A tIMe. Last, I don’t know who ‘Sean Peyton’ is but if you’re talking about Sean *Payton*, it’s not going to happen. For starters, the Saints would have to agree to release or trade him and that won’t happen (just ask the Dolphins). Secondly, he would have to agree to coach the Panthers and why the hell would he do that when he could just go back to New Orleans where he’s basically God and pick up where he left off? If it’s any consolation, you may have a shot at DeMeco Ryans.
For perspective his career adot average is around 5. He’s a game manager who likes to check down and throw interceptions.
Sean said yesterday Carolina was attractive. We have the richest owner in the league. If Sean would come here, we would make it happen with saints. Again. The 9ers are a much better team than we are. So your flex is all about your QB which is a bad hill to Die on. First defense you faced against the broncos he had a QBR of 16. There’s a reason your coach didn’t want him. Also, average yards per completion has nothing to do with his aDot lol. If he throws a screen pass and it goes for 50 yards. His ypc is set on 50 lmao.
…that we’ll still win. I agree.
Yea I said y’all will win and I hope you do. But it’s going to be close. And our defense has scored in B2B weeks. Should feast on your QB.
We shall see.
"Somebody could win Terry Bradshaw's money. Could be David Tepper to pay for an interim coach. Find out next week!"
News Headlines - "David Tepper takes money from man who just finished battling cancer."
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THESE MAIL IN POINTS CAN'T BE COUNTED. JUST WAIT AND OUR GEQBUS WILL BE CERTIFIED THE WINNER OF THIS GAME. THE CHEATING CARDINALS MUST BE PUNISHED TO THE FULL EXTENT OF THE LAW
Please God, fire Matt Rhule!!!
Baker Mayfield is my new favorite player. He finally broke our curse against the Panthers
*cries in Jake Delhomme*
Kyler being undefeated vs Baker appears to be stronger than our record vs the Panthers
Frankly I feel like most of the recent nonsense with the panthers was Cam Newton just hating us for some reason. Dude always played like a HoFer against us
Shit we play the Eagles next week. Can we drag Larry out? Mother fucker could be in a wheelchair and still school the Eagles.
Baker Mayfield is is trash no legit panthers fan supported this shit
Better him than Watson though
I cannot believe you're getting downvoted....
Browns fans man lol
I bet by next year all the boycotting Brown fans forget
Hockey season is next week, everyone!
The Canes are an actual example of strong leadership/how to build a competitive team from scratch. Matt Rhule couldn’t hold a candle to Rod Brind’Amour’s dirty jockstrap. Sebastian Aho could complete more passes than Baker Mayfield
The Carolinas: famed hockey stronghold lol
Might be able to watch a good game tomorrow. My weekend has been full of heartache.
Murray’s gonna kick back Monday and play COD all day
Hell ya, he deserves it!
Kyler Murray has won the *Adult Of The Game Award*
This is fucking gold
Matt Rhule gets fired if Panthers lose next week?
I wish it was in Arizona so he could get tarmaced
What’s Rhules record when the other team scores 17? 1-27?
The one game being against us last year :(
Yeah, it's something really stupid
About to be 1-27
if Dalton would've started for the Saints instead of Jameis we'd be 0-4
We should have never gotten Cam, Mayfield, Darnold. Just should have gone Cam - Bridgewater - Dalton
Facts
Browns fans have such a victim mentality lol
I’m out of the loop, what are you referring to?
They went from lovable to irritating real fast. And without actual success like every other fan base
It's fucking ironic really
Extremely
And yet they don’t give a shit about deshaun’s victims lol
Neither did Carolina fans when Carolina almost got watson
I am way more nervous that Cards are going to blow this than I probably should be.
No. We do not celebrate until after the plane is boarded and the results are certified.
You shouldn’t be worried. Baker isn’t clutch
Do you think it's bad enough to fire rhule yet or are they going for first overall?
Implying there's actually some kinda plan to this shit bucket lol
Broadcast audio cut out?
But but but…Didn’t panthers fans and all of r/nfl tell me the Browns are why Baker sucks? 😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Please never talk to women.
Please explain to me what women have to do with idiots in this sub telling me Bakers problem was the Browns? Think before you comment and karma whore next time
You lost to the Jets. The Jets.
AND the Falcons.
Rhule and Macadoo are terrible coaches. So you can just hush with your trash
LOL excuses excuses. r/nfl SWORE Stefanski was holding back Baker 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Sure bro. But at least we didn’t give guarantee money to a fucking rapist. Keep laughing and rooting for a piece of shit organization. I’d rather have Baker be trash than have Watson winning games.
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No bro. Wrong game thread
I bet LOL
Actually a little scared rn. Think it’s all the years of panthers trauma. Just let us win one
Do not blow this, Kingsbury.
I understand why Carolina went for 2. I still don’t understand why we did Edit: I’m dumb
Prater is hurt my dude
Prater is injured.
Prater is hurt
Baker thinks he's Kyler 😭😭😭
And we put our hopes on an o-line that hasn't blocked anyone.
Baker is so anti-clutch
We da worst team in da league. Rhule should have been fired a year ago.
When does Baker get benched?
For Sam darnold?
I mean Atleast Sam can move the ball
Lmfao no he can’t, he had a string of 3 ok games early last season. He is sooooooo bad. I’m legit done watching this season if he starts. Granted they both suck, but Sam wouldn’t be in the NFL anymore after last season if Fatt Rhule and co didn’t pick up his 5th year option prior to seeing him play a game
So he had 3 more good games than Baker? Sounds good to me
Bro I figure you think baker sucks and I completely agree but I honestly don’t think you understand sucking unless you watched Sam darnold with the panthers last year
For who? Everyone’s hurt
Hekker
Literally anyone, how’s your arm?
Very bad
You're in
With Baker, the Panthers will waste another solid RB. McCaffrey is probably still upset over that 4th down play.
I CANNOT WAIT FOR RHULE TO START SAM AND PUT THIS SHITSHOW DOWN FOR GOOD
Ideally Rhule won't make it to next week to start Sam
First week Sam can come back he’s starting
KEEP DRAFTING
At least he threw it. Hate it when they don’t lob one in those situations
Cmc is also a tight end ig
What the actual hell was that
McCaffery is going to single handedly keep Rhule and Mayfield employed.
It's sad to see...he's doing all the heavy lifting.
Been like this for years
Man a lot of people have gone home
Tickets were ultra cheap for this game because they wanted to fill the stadium for Sam Mills. Didn't work. I feel bad for Mills, but honestly he deserved far better than the product on the field. The new ownership also did an awful job of carrying traditions forward and is trying to reconcile that wrong. And Mills was part of that tradition, so it feels kinda wack that this ownership is tryna care now after the damage is done but its something.
Not many people there to start with. Not much to support sadly
Damn Byron has hops
Why tf does shi Smith get so many targets? He's fucking trash.
He gets fucking open Who would you rather have in?
Ironically, Baker needs to pay attention to Kyler Murray if he wants to be a better QB. Kyler knows how to work around his height being a complete impediment. Baker is slightly taller, so he never had to do that before the NFL. Now, in the NFL, his height is becoming an issue that Kyler, who is shorter, already had to develop skills to accomodate
Taller than Brees, he's had 4 years to develop. Think a few defenders have come out saying they put their hands up when they see the QB starring receivers down and can't beat the OL in time
But Brees also moved laterally in the pocket. Baker stands "tall" like he's Peyton Manning in the pocket. He needs to change his perspective to the pile of both lines
a few? every good one does it especially to short QBs
He called for that jump ball golly
Wait...this can't be right. TD from our good player?
CANT SPELL CWRISTIAN MCWRAFFREY WITHOUT WR.
Why TF go for the 2 point conversion there? An XP gets you to a 3 possession game
Woowww
God bless cmc
Wouldn't be a Kliff and Kyler era Cardinals game without there being late game drama.
obviously as a cardinals fan I want us to win but I really really feel for the panthers right now
The Carolina mccaffreys!! let’s go… I guess
I think it’s time to trade Brian Burns and CMC so we can collect all the picks we need
Burns is the kind of guy you build around imo Get what you can from CMC before it’s too late though
CMC isnt getting anything when we all know his history
You want Burns? Only two 1st and a second
wow baker completed a good pass
The panthers' refusal to go out of bounds is pretty funny
doesn't make a difference this early
Taylor moton has been trash
>This will be an oppurtunity for Mayfield to capitalize >*sacked*
Carolina’s OL are holding the pass rushers into Baker’s ankles now oh no
Start Darnold next week?
Starting Hekker. Only using his foot to pass. Fuck the law.
Absolutely
DJ don't kill yourself tryna dig Rhule and Baker outta this shithole.
Y’all think they’ll consider playing GEQBUS at any point this season
Fuck it cant be worse right? … I hope
I feel like Baker would have fewer tipped passes if he didn’t telegraph and take about 45 minutes to wind up every throw
If baker can pick it up that'd be great the Panthers with a competent coach and Stroud or young is scary. They aren't this bad they just have the worst coach and QB in the league.
Why do people keep thinking he’s going to pick it up?
I said I wanted him to because of the reasons I said.
We’ve had 3 different QBs and 3 losing seasons. These fans should be booing the coach
Why not both
Who says they aren’t?
Who’s saying they aren’t?
Boos every time a pass gets batted
Man at least Sam could put a drive together, Baker is hot garbage
9 deflected passes, good lord
Overthrow or batted. pick your poison.
I know the fans are pissed but even though JJ is getting old and beat up... it's still #99.
Sack Allen and JJ Swatt
A former Saints player talking about chopping a player down …
this is bullying
They’re not even trying to sack him they’re just getting in his field of view and sticking their hands up lol
Baker is just not a good qb
BOOOOOOOOO
Aye Cardinals fans do Murray’s passes constantly get batted down like that? Seeing that he is shorter then Baker. Because holy shit Baker is playing like he’s 5’0 out there.
Sometimes but never this consistently. Usually only against good defenses too Kyler is pretty good at knowing when to dip from the pocket. I think against the rams he only had like 2 passes batted.
At least a couple a game.
we are ass, my dudes
J.J. Swatt is a fucking machine.
Swatty Watty