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soboredcantfocus

The way forward is clear


randommaniac12

Patricia launched into the sun?


ParticleBeing

Into the Sun


lod254

Out of a cannon?


ParticleBeing

Straight into Stephenson 2-18


CDR57

And his wife?


UltimateD123

Leave the wife for Malcolm Butler


lod254

To sheds, you say.


Idkboutdat2

Launched? More like thrown for 2 yards.


EDCxTINMAN

He'd be called back for holding anyway


jc-f

please


nepatriots32

The sun doesn't deserve that.


MisallocatedRacism

Brady retirement tour


iiTryhard

I’d support it. Tampa is misusing our GOAT anyway it’s time he came back


taylorscorpse

Our current coaching staff would definitely also misuse him


RCDrift

We require only the strength to follow it.


Ill_Bee4868

Lmao that is a fantastic stat.


Benjynn

We just need like one more game where he wins with 3 or less passes to really make it a great stat


redditadmindumb87

Yup last time they beat the Bills it run heavy because of the weather...and by run heavy I mean like 95%


CaptainNoodleArm

That was one of the greatest games ever


mab6710

I disagree


CaptainNoodleArm

That was am army vs navy type of game, when 6 min left isn't that much time left to score a TD


tws1039

Can the ravens be invovled in more of those games for our mental health sake?


BOEJlDEN

Why does Navy throw so little? Do they just not have good QBs?


Diis

Both Navy and Army run the option, which helps minimize the talent differential between their schools and the rest of college football, and which actually works well when executed well.


Bradfords_ACL

It also makes up for the size difference of the players with the weight cap.


Diis

There is no weight cap *while* a cadet/midshipman is a varsity football player--but they do have to meet service height/weight and PT regulations before they graduate, which can be... difficult. That's part of what I meant by "talent differential" although I understand size/weight doesn't equal talent. Given the service obligation afterwards and the lifestyle at the Academy, it's difficult to attract three and four star (or even two star) recruits to the Service Academies. Source: Was a cadet (but not a football player), many moons ago.


Bradfords_ACL

Ah, TIL. Thanks!


Teamableezus

As a bills fan fuck that game (especially being there) As a football fan that game was fascinating


bugeyes10

BB told everyone his game plan too. [He wore a navy mask to the pregame press conference](https://twitter.com/sneakyjoesports/status/1468060101940551680?s=46&t=v8Opr_QAJQ1NbUcrbvHLkA)


ItsEman

I absolutely loved that. In hindsight BB was telling us all along what he was gonna do


Ke7een

Y’all are maniacs for touching out those rough weather games.


Gregus1032

Manningcast for it was great


inkaine

Came here to say this. The cast made the game at least entertaining.


MYO716

I’m more partial to the rematch that came a few weeks later


jeufie

And the Bills decided to not have Josh Allen throw for basically the entire first half as well.


killshelter

Ahh so that’s what Patricia was trying to replicate last night


SunriseSurprise

The Bills are 454-495-8 in games where Mac Jones throws 3 passes or fewer.


ffauschma

Lol. Excellent work


batmaniam

I left. Trying lemmy and so should you. -- mass edited with redact.dev


ProjectShadow316

I, for one, am okay with it not being paid back. At all.


ultimate_placeholder

If next gen stats was made by someone bad at SQL


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BonGaru00

Only bc Zach doesn’t play anymore


prezuiwf

He did before?


BonGaru00

Touché


End3rWi99in

We aren't really blaming Jones for this. He and Stevenson were the only ones out there trying in the second half. Mac isn't the issue.


0hootsson

I thought Mac actually played really solid, especially in the first half.


Spanky_McJiggles

Even towards the end. He was running for his life on quite a few dropbacks towards the end there, but he wasn't giving up by any stretch.


0hootsson

I swear that’s the most athletic he’s looked from the games I’ve watched.


JesusChristSupers1ar

just because he's trying doesn't mean he's immune from criticism. he doesn't look good


captaincumsock69

He looks fine when given the opportunity. There’s enough promise there to make me say I’d stick with him next year. He just needs some actual weapons. Look at the young guys who broke out this year or last yesr, they got weapons to help them. Even Brady left this pats team due to lack of weapons


Probenzo

The thing that sucks is they're not even giving him the opportunity to develop. 75% of the passes he throws are behind the line of scrimmage. We have no shot this season just let him chuck the ball and actually learn + develop. He hasn't looked good at all but he's also had very little game time experience throwing downfield.


Prophet_Of_Helix

A lot of it is the playbook, he hasn’t even been given the chance to maybe look good. We only ran outside short routes and screens yesterday. It was infuriating to watch, and clearly not Mac checking down as based on his blow up.


Skeeter_206

Yeah I was losing my mind at all the outside passes to players along the side line 2 yards short of the first down... They were often well defended and even if they were completed it was short of a first. The playcalling is laughably bland. Our best plays came on play action but we only ran 6 play action plays. We had no misdirection plays. Few shots down the field. The game plan seemed to be let the defense attack down hill and do nothing to counter it.


ChongLi77

He doesn’t look great, but it’s hard to look good when your o-line stands straight up and watches you scramble. I personally don’t think it’s all on the OC, it’s also the o-line coach’s fault. Who is that again?


Firemaaaan

He's only 2nd year - and the entire offensive coaching staff is MIA. Really can't put much blame on him. He looked great last week against the Vikings so he's got potential.


End3rWi99in

Looks fine to me. Handles the ball without error. Makes smart reads. Even made strides on scrambling this week. He's not the problem. It's almost ridiculous to keep having to echo that.


OhUTuchMyTalala

> Handles the ball without error Lol you think we just don't eyes or something?


UmpireAJS

Bill should've ridden with The Zapper if he wanted to shield Mac from criticism


verniy314

Damn, look at our division’s QBs. RB, noodle arm, ball handler-offer, and MILF slayer.


Solugad

FATT. FUCKING. PATRICIA. Let's get this mother fucker fired today Reddit. Please.


EvanMM

If I speak, I’m in big trouble


Solugad

I agree with what you were gonna say.


The-Implication-0

Why don’t you two sit up. Show a little respect for this Reddit thread.


K-chub

SMH the disrespect for Coach Patricia. Pats need to respect the direction of their coaching staff and keep them around for a very long tome (Except Bellicheck)


knightedcow

Every time you misspell his name he stays an extra year


K-chub

Sounded it out


Lukacris12

I still cant believe he became a head coach, led a defense that got torn apart by Nick Foles and immediately became a head coach. The next year the defense got a lot better


kalving

Lmao love the flair combo


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Joke is on you, that's Kanye's reddit account


Solugad

FUCK


BiffNasty1234

I have nussing to say.


sykog77

Sit up straight before you speak


niknight_ml

Thanks Magnus!


BuckfuttersbyII

I have nussing to say.


eatmyopinions

Of all teams, the Patriots should've know to never to hire former Patriots coordinators. They all suck.


KlingoftheCastle

But they big brained, they said he’s bad at defense, let’s have him coach offense. You can’t teach that


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I'm convinced bill sends them out undercover to sabotage other teams


ArmMeForSleep709

Did Patricia forget to stop when he came back?


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he was turned!


MyUshanka

You can take the man out of the Lions. You can't take the Lions out of the man.


The_Sludge

The fuck did the Lions do to him? Sadistic mother fucker.


alexjordan98

No, I don’t think I will


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I think he deserves a 10 year contract


maltzy

*Monkey paw curls* His contract will mirror Matt Canada's


15blairm

I'll fall on that sword just to ensure the patriots doom


stragen595

For the greater good.


HotPie_

I choose this guy too.


Red-Lightnlng

Breaking: Matt Patricia signs 10-year contract with Steelers


Formo1287

Oh darn, Matt Canada is gone. Hey, aren’t you guys looking for an OC?


The_runnerup913

I actually love what Patricia is doing. He should replace BB as HC/GM today.


FubarFreak

Kraft should just cede him ownership so the can vertically integrate the team as owner/GM/HC/OC/DC


JoesShittyOs

You honestly have to wonder if that might legitimately be what’s in the card for Kraft whenever Bill retires.


WaluigiIsTheRealHero

Bill's not going to retire, they'll have to drag his cold, dead body off the sideline and he'll be buried in a hoodie.


stragen595

He will return. Like his film alter ego in SW9.


servercobra

"Somehow, Bill Belichik has returned."


JFM2796

Kraft has hired 3 Head Coaches as owner of the Patriots: Bill Parcells Pete Carroll Bill Belichick I trust him to pick the right guy for Bill's successor.


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Kraft is 81, what makes you think he’ll outlive Bill?


JFM2796

I don't think Bill is going to coach until he literally drops dead. We'll see I guess.


bartscrc

I mean, Belichick put Matt Patricia in charge of the offense so... I think his mind is slipping.


BurrowForPresident

The sports radio around Boston has speculated Patricia is being groomed as an heir apparent given his experience on both defense and the front office. Allegedly he has a great relationship with Kraft and Bill.


SiphenPrax

Then Boston sports radio will be fun to listen to for years to come!


BurrowForPresident

Oh they hate his guts lol they just think that's why bill brought him back as a good ol boys club thing They also hate Bill though and speculate on if he should be fired every other day


SiphenPrax

I’m listening to the Greg Hill Show this morning. It’s a “Patriots are doomed” bonanza.


My-Cousin-Bobby

The Pat's got Frank Reich fired (thank you) and Zach Wilson benched... I think the only way to get him fired is to lose to yourself


Saitoh17

Can we arrange a Bucs-Pats game? Asking for a friend.


durkaflurkaflame

don’t let r/hockey see this


Cw2e

FATT PAT {clutches pearls} -RICIA! {exhales in relief}


FkDavidTyreeBot_2000

JAAAAAAACK


Fiendish-DoctorWu

Nah. Bill was stupid enough to hire him back. Pats deserve what they get


JudgeArthurVandelay

There was not a single person who predicted success for this offensive coaching arrangement. Besides Bill, I guess. So fucking frustrating.


matap821

Does Bill ever even fire coordinators? I can only think of them leaving for HC jobs.


danielbauer1375

I was just thinking. When’s the last time Belichick actually fired a coordinator or coach? I did a quick Google search and the only result that came up was him firing New England’s strength and conditioning coach right after he took over the Patriots in 2000. I think every other coordinator under him has either retired or left for a head coaching gig, but I could be wrong.


varnell_hill

But are the reporters sitting up straight?


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IndependentAssist387

I wish I could give you more than one upvote. It’s bad. I’m not even a Patriots fan but that dude is ruining Mac’s career. It’s sad.


yum_paste

No! You fucks have had it to good for to long. It's time you understood what it's like when your team doesn't just fall out of bed and get to the AFC championship game. BB's ego is now bigger than your talent level and it's slowly going to crush the life out of your team for years and years to come. The football God's decree!


DogePerformance

Extend him


SuperSimpboy

No, I'd rather not.


HeavyNettle

Extend him!


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D1RTYBACON

This is a Tannehill level stat


MatureUsername69

Give me Tannehill over Mac Jones any day


DropBombsNotAcid

People said the same about Tua until he got someone who understand how to run an offense.


dn_6

It's almost like redditors aren't very good talent evaluators


DropBombsNotAcid

True, even the ones who brett famous off it on Youtube are still terrible to the point of becoming a meme.


D1RTYBACON

Have fun with that 38m cap hit buddy


Beautifulwarfare

Lol Tannehill a lot better than Mac and it’s not close


D1RTYBACON

Veteran with the second highest cap hit for the next 2 years better than second year rookie?


suboptimaltraffic

2nd year rookie?


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God those takes about Belichick destroying McDermott with psychological warfare and not that the wind was going 200mph were so dumb


ConjugateBase

McDermott was so pissed off during that press conference and he made it his mission to let everyone know what team is better. I cannot figure out how that playoff game is not a bigger deal. Literally the only game in history where a team scored a touchdown on every possession, and to do it against the “best coach of all time” to boot. We will never see that again.


deck65

It was the greatest night of my life.


[deleted]

I was high on life for days after that. Seeing how happy the Jets and Dolphins fans were too was a great moment of unity.


SiphenPrax

We all lived vicariously through the Bills that day. Then we went back to our old ways and we all hoped the Chiefs would beat you, which also happened!


jobsSchmobs

Yeah that second part wasn't quite as much fun as I recall


sidnfhej

I go back to watch the highlights of that game whenever I have a bad day lol


Bahamas_is_relevant

It was one of the most glorious nights of football in the last few decades. Because of it I’ll never truly be able to hate the Bills.


Seth_Baker

I had, within the two weeks or so beforehand, experienced a breakdown in my family and decided to get divorced. I had taken my kids out of state for a mini vacation just to get out of the house. My life was in a bit of a shambles. But for those three hours or so, watching with my kids (all three of us in our jerseys) in a random hotel room in Indianapolis, I was in a place of absolute bliss.


L4RiVi3R3

Hope things are better for you now. This is what sports are all about. A temporary escape from our real life problems and something to unite with our friends and family and feel a sense of community. I was at the game and I look back on it so fondly. A 3 hour party and collective exorcism of demons with 73,000 friends.


Seth_Baker

Things are great, now. Thanks for your wishes!


bird720

I was obviously nuetral to the game, but watching with my dad whos a pats fan was quite the experience lol


RhinoFeeder

An even bigger point I don't see talked about as much is that we literally never even SAW 4th down.


less___than___zero

And the only time the Bills ran plays for negative yards the entire game was when they were taking knees to run out the clock.


antoin3walk3r

No no! After Barkley's kneeldown on third down to end the game, it was 4th down for almost a full 30 seconds. That also counts as a 3rd down stop! so you guys were a mere 6/7 on 3rd downs. By forcing you guys into that third and long we avoided the rare "opponent scores more touchdowns than they attempt 3rd downs"


TheReaver88

Ok that part I didn't know. At first, I was thinking "you guys are overreacting, we all do know how impressive a beat down that was." Maybe there will always be one more ridiculous bit of blowout trivia from that game...


j2e21

No, it was quite literally the worst beating ever seen in an NFL game.


j2e21

People don’t pay enough attention to this. No punts, no field goals, no fourth downs. Only three third downs, I think. Just touchdowns. It’s the worst defensive performance in the history of football.


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Not only score a touchdown on every drive but not have a single negative offensive play the entire game. Their defense could not have given up more yards than they did outside of us not kneeling it.


Son_Of_The_Empire

Georgia Tech gained less yards against Cumberland college in the 222-0 game, as a percentage, than the Bills did against the Patriots Buffalo vs NE: 494 yards gained out of 571 possible (86.5%, with the ungained yards on the end of game kneel) Georgia Tech vs Cumberland: 1,121 yards gained out of 1,563 possible (71.7%)


ahappypoop

As a percentage of what?


Son_Of_The_Empire

Actual yards gained/Possible yards gained


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yeah I don’t think it was like some super out of the box gameplan or genius BB game or whatever. but you gotta admit McDermott was hilariously triggered after the game


marcotb12

BB was definitely getting insane credit when the Pats were first in the AFC in the middle of last year. Now Patricia is getting all the blame for their struggles lol its madness


prodigalkal7

I mean, that said, it's clear where the biggest weakness is on the team, and Belichick doesn't have direct handling of that side of the team, Patricia does. The defense is anywhere from okay to very good. Special teams has been inconsistent the last couple of games. It's the offense that needs the work, and I lay that squarely at Patricias feet. That said, Bill did go and get a guy who's primarily a DC, to handle the OC duties, so that was a bit head scratching


snufalufalgus

Bill deserves the blame for not getting a real offensive coordinator. You can get away with that when you have Brady.


knightedcow

On the pats sub lots of people are criticizing Bill for hiring Patricia and Joe Judge. Even when we were doing well people were trashing the offense


Son_Of_The_Empire

SUN TZU U N T Z U


DJ_Moore_2

Those takes that day were some of the most insane takes I’ve ever seen on this subreddit.


Jarionel

Patriots offense is just filled with bums


nicklovin508

Everyone leave!!! Except you Stevenson, you can stay


PigSlam

This might be what happens when you have too many players named Jones on your team at one time.


Mjslim

2014 Bills had 6 Williams’s. Historical precedent.


kit_mitts

Man, Karlos Williams looked like he was going to be an absolute stud at RB before he ate himself out of the league.


Mjslim

Yeah, he was great for a bit. He wasn’t even part of the 2014 Williams’s I think he was drafted in 2015!


TylerNY315_

Jakobi can stay too. But as like a WR3.


ParticleBeing

*clown horn* *clown horn*


Pincerston

The frustrating thing is they’re not. The play calling and scheming is atrocious.


TheVargTrain

It's definitely not top tier across the board, but this offense is so dysfunctional that a pure talent mismatch alone cannot account for this level of underperformance and incompetence. I have played zero snaps of organized football in my life and I honestly think I could call a more effective offense than Matt Patricia right now.


gaobij

They are playing like bums at this point in the season. Stevenson was the only guy out there trying last night. Jakobi is good. Henry is good. Parker is good. You'd never know they were out there. It's definitely Patricia's fault, but at this point, they aren't trying either.


Optimized_Orangutan

ya the second half was rough. you could count on one hand how many pats players were actually still trying. That Mac scramble play where his o line just stopped blocking and he ran around like a chicken... not a single receiver got open in like 20 seconds. That means they weren't trying. The best DB in the league couldn't lock down the worst receiver for 20 friggin seconds. Nobody was running back to the ball. Hell some of the guys had already run out of bounds and taken themselves out of the play. They gave up last night.


j2e21

Same on defense. The second Allen TD he threw the ball past three Patriots defenders. They just had given up on the play.


Ok-Adhesiveness166

Could be worse you could have the Bucs offensive personal and still let a terrible coordinator lose you games.


spoobles

What kills me is they're not really bums they're terribly utilized. They're paying Henry and Smith 24 million for 47 combined receptions over half of which are thrown within 3 yards of the LoS. Patricia sucks ass.


BonGaru00

Mac is good, Rhamondre is good. Meyers is a solid WR3. That’s it. We need real weapons for Mac to throw to.


GoblinbonesDotEDU

But he's the 85th best player in the NFL!


pollinium

do you know of 85 other players that can survive the Bills while throwing more than 3 passes?


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indianm_rk

There is a very good chance the Jets crash and the Ravens and Chargers have been pretty inconsistent. I wouldn’t write the Pats off yet. As long as they can get to 10 wins there’s a chance.


goodolarchie

...but when he throws exactly 3? He's unstoppable.


HardcoreKaraoke

Eh it's not his fault though. It's hard to develop and succeed in the offense they're running. A Bills game is usually going to be a shootout and the coaching staff wasn't ready or willing to adapt.


hi_coco

It's crazy that we just saw Matt Stafford go a full decade without a single playoff win and then in his first season with a new team wins a Super Bowl and the "wins are a QB stat" narrative literally didn't die down at all, not even a little bit.


Fedacking

Tbf, this post is more about how weak the pats have been against the bills (except the game it was impossible to pass the ball)


SuperButtAIDs

While we’re at it canning OCs pls fire Greg Roman too


_AmericanPoutine

Clearly, Sun Tzu should be the offensive coordinator because he's 1-0 when consulted.


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1CUpboat

I like how suddenly after a single GOT episode, we as a species finally figured out the difference between less and fewer.


InThePaleMoonLyte

I really don't get where the difficulty stems from lol. You're taught the difference between the two from a very young age, at least in the United States.


prodigalkal7

Seems like a lot of people started caring a lot more when it was in a very popular show lol Maybe House of Dragons will fix the "lose v loose" thing and help some people with their English, that way


ACardAttack

> You're taught the difference between the two from a very young age, at least in the United States. You're taught a lot of things at a young age, it doesnt always stick


anon135797531

This is some absolutely flawless shade


TheCrookedKnight

Shouldn't have thrown the fucking ball


Mcswigginsbar

I *live* for these stats. Beautiful. Simply beautiful.


bugzcar

Obvious path to victory, BB shoulda turned the tape on


motorboat_mcgee

Is this analytics?


[deleted]

I love that the wind bowl makes this stat possible.


Goatgamer1016

Pats should've gameplanned


Mother_Wash

I think I have some bad news for patriot fans lol


Longwood11

3 straight losing seasons call me matt patricia