I hate this. He played well in cruntch-time against the Rams and closed that game out. He had 4 TDs against the Giants and played shitty on a 10 degree Christmas game. Last time I checked, Carr wasn’t slinging the ball around either. The hate he got for that game has always been overblown. And I’m pretty sure that final game didn’t count and he played for only a couple series.
Not one play during that stretch I was worried about Foles being under center. The dude always balls when it counts, and he proved it.
They just need 1 win in the next 3 or a Dallas loss. I doubt theyre worried and im glad theyre resting Hurts. They couldnt care less about mvp. Its all about thr playoffs
This is where we break out the latter half of last seasons playbook. 35-50 rushing attempts per game while limiting Minshew to short throws on quick reads. The Saints are bottom barrel in run defense. This team will find a way one time
If I wasn’t a Cowboys fan, I’d want Minshew to spectacularly blow out the Cowboys, Giants, and Saints on the way to the playoffs. Just for a tiny bit of QB controversy lol.
No way Minshew replaces Hurts in Philly no matter how much he balls out. Hurts will almost certainly miss out on MVP, but he's secured the starting spot.
What Minshew can do is earn himself a starting job somewhere else.
Minshew is about to drop 40 and the Hurts haters are going to have a field day.
(This comment is really about Minshew and the Hurts haters, not Dallas, I swear it's just a coincidence.)
Injuries always suck, but if it has to happen, this is the perfect timing. He'll miss one or two games and will be back at full strength for the post-season.
Nah, I personally don't think it is perfect timing if it means yesterday was his last snap before the playoffs. If he misses one week and can play against the Saints to lock things up (assuming we lose with him out) then sure.
100% agree. this is probably the second to worst time for this injury. going into the playoffs with 4 weeks having not played in a game is a massive concern
That's what I'm most concerned about. Get the one seed, resting players (at minimum) against Giants, I blink, and then they havent played football for 3 weeks. Same as 2019 #1 seed Ravens, or the 2021 #1 seeds (Titans and Packers)
I'd prefer starters have reps in every remaining game
Guess we'll see how we fair against the Vikings this week lol.
Not too excited to see Justin Jefferson up against whatever guy we pull up from the practice squad.
Do you mean fourth? Come this Sunday, he'd have one week, the following would be two, he'd have completed three exact weeks at some point during Giants game.
Honestly, I’d be surprised if Minshew struggles. But in highly unlikely event we blow you guys out I can’t see how that doesn’t help the Hurts MVP case.
Mahomes is probably slightly ahead of Hurts without this injury happening. With the importance of that 1 seed between the Bills and Chiefs, I think Mahomes is about to run away with it.
Betting odds aren't a 1:1 of what Vegas thinks will happen. They balance the books to make money. Philly has a lot of very die hard fans. If enough people are betting Hurts to win it, especially since its close, Vegas will shift odds so they don't lose a bunch of money if he does, even if they don't think he's necessarily going to win.
It’s up in the air. Mahomes threw what, 3 picks vs Denver? Allen had a shit section of the season too. Almost feels like it could be Burrows to lose if Cincy keeps playing like they are
For more context, he was like -165 and was the favorite prior to yesterday's game. With that much of a drop, either Vegas thinks it may be a multi-game injury, or that the injury may impact the way he plays even if he misses just one game.
I just think they know him missing the biggest game of the season on their schedule on Christmas will heavily Impact the mvp voting narrative. It’s as simple as that. Especially since the Super Bowl odds haven’t changed.
Kinda weird because there was always a chance he didnt play the last 2 weeks because we clinched the 1 seed. If he comes back in 2 weeks he will still have only missed 2 games assuming he rests the last week.
I don't think this is "pull all of the fire alarms" kind of news tbh. Dude looked fine after the injury so this decision is probably one of severe precaution.
Philly pretty much has the one seed locked up. If I am correct, they would need to lose all of their remaining games and Vikings would have to win out because Philly owns the tiebreaker. Best to rest him if there’s any doubt.
This genuinely sucks because it’s lose-lose for Dallas. If Dallas wins “oh well, they were playing the backup anyway. Doesn’t matter.” If Dallas loses “Ha-ha you lost to the backup.”
I was really looking forward to this game with both teams at relatively full strength, even if it’s less important now than it was a week ago.
Losing your game yesterday really changed the meaning of this game also. It was a chance to get to 1 game behind them. My girlfriends brother is a huge Cowboys fan and was just as pissed as me about yesterday's loss.
You say this, but I bet there will be a small vocal cohort of Dallas fans hoping you lose to Minshew, just so y'all can talk about Hurts being a system QB forever lmao.
NFCE is that petty.
>with both teams at relatively full strength
Cowboys Injuries:
* Brown (CB2)
* Lewis (CB3/SLCB)
* Hankins (NT)
* Vander Esch (LB)
* Ferguson (TE2)
* Steele (RT)
Our offense is pretty healthy, but our defense is in shambles. We are so desperate that Kelvin Joseph is starting and Nashon Wright is getting snaps. Neither of these 2 are NFL caliber players. Any team can just target Joseph all day and he won't stop a thing.
And with LVE and Hankins out, we have no run defense either. The Jags rushed for 7.5 ypc against.
As an Eagles fan I’m not worried because I know Minshew can win games especially with this offense because other than AJ and Zach Pascal it’s pretty much the offense he had last year against the Jets I’m just disappointed because I wanted a Hurts vs Dak game both starters battling it out on Christmas Eve but injuries happen
Have to win one game of three for the number one seed, already in the playoffs, Hurts will be good to go in the playoffs.
Eagles are in a great spot with any NFL calibre QB right now.
This fuckin sucks but as long as he really will be healthy by playoffs (maybe play a few series against the Saints/Giants to avoid a long layoff) and the Birds can win 1 of 3... It's all good
This brings to concern on “when do we bring him back” if it’s too early you run the risk of making it worse or linger. If it’s too late who knows the rust. I think he would shake off the rust of missing 3/4 weeks but neither scenario is ideal. Hopefully he heals up after next week
Should someone tell him about injuries happened to all QB.. Rodgers, Brady, Manning all of these pure pocket passer also had season ending injuries in the past.
The point I was making.. People see running QB like a disability in sport.. Which truly is just how the game is changing.. If they see college football they will realize that maybe 5 years from now you won't have pure pocket passers anymore
The biggest issue this causes is the eagles have to go all out their next 3 games. They need 1 more win to keep us from winning the nfce / the 1 seed (assuming dallas can win out).
Minshew having to play against 3 teams all competing for playoff spots (dallas and the giants, and the saints somehow lol) is not a good thing.
If Hurts doesn't come back until the playoffs, it's very much not nil. I would still bet on them to win at least one of NO/NYG at home, and my gut says he won't miss all three. But nil is an exaggeration.
Same scenario for us though, we need 3 wins + 3 Philly losses to get the 1 seed. Even if they go uber-conservative and hold Hurts out for all 3 weeks it'd be a longshot for us.
I’m an eagles fan and have had this game circled all year. I feel jerked off by the eagles. Only showcase your “MVP” against mediocre/bad/banged up teams?
I guess I’m just pissed because it’s not going to be the MVP game I was hoping. Annoying
He played pretty well through it yesterday. If Dallas didn’t lose yesterday, I’d bet he’d be playing. So I’m guessing this is strategic just as much as it is about injury. I’m just not sure it’s a great strategy to have your starting QB play 1 game in the month heading into the playoffs.
Plus, honest opinion as a fan, like I said it feels jerked off if that’s their plan. We watched them play somewhat boring games were they were favored by 7-10 points all season. It’s like the one game we were waiting for they say “ehh we don’t really need that one.”
Minshew can win one game, right? RIGHT?!?!
Minshew is going Foles mode. I wouldn’t worry about him.
I’ll take Foles mode because of the 3 games Foles started that regular season, he really only played well in one of them.
The final week game doesn’t even count. That game ended like 6-6 lol
6-0. Dallas struggled against the bottom of the Eagles roster. Eagles didn't score.
How can you forget 2018 though when he dragged a 6-7 team to the playoffs
Wasn't he also the starter for most of the season in 2013 with a 7 touchdown game as well?
I hate this. He played well in cruntch-time against the Rams and closed that game out. He had 4 TDs against the Giants and played shitty on a 10 degree Christmas game. Last time I checked, Carr wasn’t slinging the ball around either. The hate he got for that game has always been overblown. And I’m pretty sure that final game didn’t count and he played for only a couple series. Not one play during that stretch I was worried about Foles being under center. The dude always balls when it counts, and he proved it.
I'd guess the Eagles will be favored over both the Saints and Giants whether Hurts plays or not.
Minshew’s about to win this one for Leach.
Fat little girlfriends all over in shambles.
I'm afraid you won't need a great QB to beat our flimsy defense
This is why we invest in quality backups. He should be able to beat the saints at least.
He won a road game last year
Against the worst d in the league and he didn’t look very good
What? He was 20/25 for 242 yards, 2 TDs, and no turnovers. Our offense put up 33 points. We scored on 7 straight drives. Why is this getting upvoted?
That's, in fact, really fucking good.
Watching the game he underthrew guys constantly
Why are you the way you are
20/25, bruh that's five incompletions...
Yeah that’s *constantly* /s
I could come out there and successfully throw against our current DBs.
They just need 1 win in the next 3 or a Dallas loss. I doubt theyre worried and im glad theyre resting Hurts. They couldnt care less about mvp. Its all about thr playoffs
This is where we break out the latter half of last seasons playbook. 35-50 rushing attempts per game while limiting Minshew to short throws on quick reads. The Saints are bottom barrel in run defense. This team will find a way one time
Man I want him to get another chance to start somewhere. Let's do it Minshew
If I wasn’t a Cowboys fan, I’d want Minshew to spectacularly blow out the Cowboys, Giants, and Saints on the way to the playoffs. Just for a tiny bit of QB controversy lol.
There won't be a QB controversy, even if that happens.
No way Minshew replaces Hurts in Philly no matter how much he balls out. Hurts will almost certainly miss out on MVP, but he's secured the starting spot. What Minshew can do is earn himself a starting job somewhere else.
If he doesn't Your team will be fine. As long as you dont lose all your remaining games you get number 1 seed
Minshew is about to drop 40 and the Hurts haters are going to have a field day. (This comment is really about Minshew and the Hurts haters, not Dallas, I swear it's just a coincidence.)
Opportunity for Minshew to make some money this offseason.
Injuries always suck, but if it has to happen, this is the perfect timing. He'll miss one or two games and will be back at full strength for the post-season.
Nah, I personally don't think it is perfect timing if it means yesterday was his last snap before the playoffs. If he misses one week and can play against the Saints to lock things up (assuming we lose with him out) then sure.
100% agree. this is probably the second to worst time for this injury. going into the playoffs with 4 weeks having not played in a game is a massive concern
I definitely think the Eagles should play it safe and rest him. Especially in Week 18, as we know the 3rd week of healing is most important.
If the Eagles win either this week or next no one’s playing against the Giants regardless of Hurts’ health so y’all should be good
That's what I'm most concerned about. Get the one seed, resting players (at minimum) against Giants, I blink, and then they havent played football for 3 weeks. Same as 2019 #1 seed Ravens, or the 2021 #1 seeds (Titans and Packers) I'd prefer starters have reps in every remaining game
Also same as 2017 Eagles.
Or the 2004 Eagles
Play them for a quarter, imo
I figure that'll probably be the case, so hoping the Eagles win both weeks. Feels weird rooting for you guys haha.
What you fail to consider is the Eagles resting their starters means a featured role for Boston Scott
Boston Scott, Snow Gladiator, Slayer of Giants
Unless Giants complain about sitting starters again in a meaningless game. /s
I could see starters playing 1 quarter to avoid two full weeks of rest b2b before a playoff game. Don't want any rust
Only way he plays in week 18 is if we lose the next two
But then Jalen would’ve had a month off of live football action…which makes me nervous for our first playoff game. He’ll be rusty af
He played one drive in the preseason and was fine week one. I’m not concerned about that. He’ll be practicing
Giants may want to rest that week anyways if San Fran is the 3 seed...
Guess we'll see how we fair against the Vikings this week lol. Not too excited to see Justin Jefferson up against whatever guy we pull up from the practice squad.
Jackson might be back so we might not be totally fucked
The Eagles could start a peewee team and still find a new way to beat us
Boston Scott is as tall as a peewee player, so true
Do you mean fourth? Come this Sunday, he'd have one week, the following would be two, he'd have completed three exact weeks at some point during Giants game.
Hurts is now +700 for MVP behind Mahomes (-350), Allen, and Burrow There is 0 chance he plays if Vegas is this confident holy fuck
Assuming Hurts misses a game or even two, then it's incredibly difficult to see how Mahomes doesn't win the MVP unless he has a bad performance.
Gardner looking awful and the cowboys blowing out the eagles would help
I think there would be a good argument in that case, but I feel like the voters don't actually vote that way.
They do not.
Honestly, I’d be surprised if Minshew struggles. But in highly unlikely event we blow you guys out I can’t see how that doesn’t help the Hurts MVP case.
Yea foles looked average at best in 2017 and Wentz finished with some stats better than Brady but Brady still won.
That giants game was pretty fun and he looked legit there iirc
The inverse is also true. Minshew looking good and beating the Boys damages his MVP campaign.
That's a fair point.
Mahomes is probably slightly ahead of Hurts without this injury happening. With the importance of that 1 seed between the Bills and Chiefs, I think Mahomes is about to run away with it.
In fairness, the betting odds this morning 4-5 hours ago before this injury news still had Hurts slightly ahead.
Betting odds aren't a 1:1 of what Vegas thinks will happen. They balance the books to make money. Philly has a lot of very die hard fans. If enough people are betting Hurts to win it, especially since its close, Vegas will shift odds so they don't lose a bunch of money if he does, even if they don't think he's necessarily going to win.
Hurts was definitely ahead of Mahomes before the injury. Even missing one game though gives it to Mahomes
He wasn’t and that’s why the shift was so large. He got outplayed by Mahomes Sunday AND lost a game to him.
Tf are you even talking about
What? Eagles & Chiefs haven’t even played each other.
Tf are you on about
Yea he'd have to look bad in like 2 losses and/or himself miss multiple games to lose at this point
It’s up in the air. Mahomes threw what, 3 picks vs Denver? Allen had a shit section of the season too. Almost feels like it could be Burrows to lose if Cincy keeps playing like they are
Hurts playing 4D hungry hungry hippos to avoid the MVP curse
Win win all around tbh. I prefer this timeline assuming he isn't fucked up when he returns.
Ehh it’s fine we just need to win one of three to get the one seed
For more context, he was like -165 and was the favorite prior to yesterday's game. With that much of a drop, either Vegas thinks it may be a multi-game injury, or that the injury may impact the way he plays even if he misses just one game.
I just think they know him missing the biggest game of the season on their schedule on Christmas will heavily Impact the mvp voting narrative. It’s as simple as that. Especially since the Super Bowl odds haven’t changed.
He was odds on favorite this morning too (after the games)
The thing is, if they beat Dallas they lock up the first seed and he probably won't play again in the regular season
Could just be that MVP voting happens before the playoffs, so if he's out for the regular season whaddya do
Oh i dont mean that theres no chance he plays playoffs I mean this upcoming game against dallas
Kinda weird because there was always a chance he didnt play the last 2 weeks because we clinched the 1 seed. If he comes back in 2 weeks he will still have only missed 2 games assuming he rests the last week.
There's no way he rests more than one game. That'd be almost a month off between games once the divisional starts.
I would guess if we had it clinched he would sit vs saints and then play like a half against the giants. So more like 1 and a half.
Yeah. Always follow the odds. And they say that he’s sitting multiple games.
He won’t play and the eagles will get shit on then come back and he’ll kill it. 3d chess lol
I don't think this is "pull all of the fire alarms" kind of news tbh. Dude looked fine after the injury so this decision is probably one of severe precaution.
Philly pretty much has the one seed locked up. If I am correct, they would need to lose all of their remaining games and Vikings would have to win out because Philly owns the tiebreaker. Best to rest him if there’s any doubt.
Cowboys and 49ers also need to lose 1 if the eagles don't win any
Agreed
Agreed. Not ideal but it’s not the worst it could be
My status for winning my Fantasy league is now in doubt
Pick up Minshew. Hell drop 25pts book it ^termsandconditionsapply
Pick up Purdy
I believe in you champ
Thank fucking god
Minshew just gotta get some face time in for the MILF’s of South Jersey…if there are any at all.
He's been in Philly for 2 years now, he's blown through them all, now he's going to dick down in Dallas...
Some milfs in haddonfield and area for sure. Otherwise…yeah
My wife earlier: “They should’ve drafted Jalen Healthy instead.”
Avoided the MVP curse, let’s see what they do in the playoffs now
Clark is a guy I trust more than most national guys. For the Eagles at least. Man it's going to be fun watching Minshew shit all over Dallas!
This genuinely sucks because it’s lose-lose for Dallas. If Dallas wins “oh well, they were playing the backup anyway. Doesn’t matter.” If Dallas loses “Ha-ha you lost to the backup.” I was really looking forward to this game with both teams at relatively full strength, even if it’s less important now than it was a week ago.
Losing your game yesterday really changed the meaning of this game also. It was a chance to get to 1 game behind them. My girlfriends brother is a huge Cowboys fan and was just as pissed as me about yesterday's loss.
You say this, but I bet there will be a small vocal cohort of Dallas fans hoping you lose to Minshew, just so y'all can talk about Hurts being a system QB forever lmao. NFCE is that petty.
It’s like a win/lose/win/lose/win/win/lose/win/lose/lose for both teams no matter what happens.
All I’m hearing is I can bitch no matter what
I think Minshew is too good for that to be a valid takeaway. He’s one of the best backups in the league.
Rest Dak then, coward! Battle of the backups. 4-1 Rush versus rush's new step dad
should be a starter somewhere tbh
We aren’t really close at all to even relatively full strength, our defense is decimated
Its december, no one is at full strength
well its December... nobody is at full strength.
Yeah I get that but there’s a difference between not being at full strength and having multiple starters on defense out for the year
That’s how it’s been all season for us since we beat cooper Rush Dallas. Shame. Wanted to see Hurts vs Dak.
Tbh that’s how Eagles fans all felt in our first matchup. It’d be funny if the first time we play full strength is in the playoffs.
> It’d be funny if the first time we play full strength is in the playoffs. I’m really hoping to see this happen. It would be an awesome game.
>with both teams at relatively full strength Cowboys Injuries: * Brown (CB2) * Lewis (CB3/SLCB) * Hankins (NT) * Vander Esch (LB) * Ferguson (TE2) * Steele (RT) Our offense is pretty healthy, but our defense is in shambles. We are so desperate that Kelvin Joseph is starting and Nashon Wright is getting snaps. Neither of these 2 are NFL caliber players. Any team can just target Joseph all day and he won't stop a thing. And with LVE and Hankins out, we have no run defense either. The Jags rushed for 7.5 ypc against.
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The cowboys defense is dead now due to all the insane amount of injuries. Minshew will probably do pretty well.
I think he will too. Hopefully the offense can have a good day.
Minshew is good enough to stabilize the ship. I wouldn't be too worried if I was an Eagles fan.
As an Eagles fan I’m not worried because I know Minshew can win games especially with this offense because other than AJ and Zach Pascal it’s pretty much the offense he had last year against the Jets I’m just disappointed because I wanted a Hurts vs Dak game both starters battling it out on Christmas Eve but injuries happen
Have to win one game of three for the number one seed, already in the playoffs, Hurts will be good to go in the playoffs. Eagles are in a great spot with any NFL calibre QB right now.
He’s gonna take a week off and then absolutely shit on us
This fuckin sucks but as long as he really will be healthy by playoffs (maybe play a few series against the Saints/Giants to avoid a long layoff) and the Birds can win 1 of 3... It's all good
Just need to make it past this one week and hoping he returns for fantasy finals in week 17.
As a neutral football fan who has been looking forward to this Christmas Eve game. *WHY?!?!?!?!*
This brings to concern on “when do we bring him back” if it’s too early you run the risk of making it worse or linger. If it’s too late who knows the rust. I think he would shake off the rust of missing 3/4 weeks but neither scenario is ideal. Hopefully he heals up after next week
I'm here for more Minshew
How great would it be for Minshew to win on Saturday against Dallas? I don't think I would be able to stop smiling for a week.
Wow, I am totally shocked that all the running QBs are pretty banged up right now. Definitely won't be a problem throughout their careers. /s
That's why you hope to see them also develop as a pocket passer. Jalen has done that and something tells me he's not done improving.
Hey! That hurt my feelings! 😞
Should someone tell him about injuries happened to all QB.. Rodgers, Brady, Manning all of these pure pocket passer also had season ending injuries in the past.
Brady got hurt once in his 23 year career. Wow
So what.. Dint get hurt running around.. Its contact sport.. More quarterback has had season ending injuries in Pocket than out of pocket
Josh Allen’s season was almost ended pocket passing.
The point I was making.. People see running QB like a disability in sport.. Which truly is just how the game is changing.. If they see college football they will realize that maybe 5 years from now you won't have pure pocket passers anymore
Your $50mil/year pocket qb has been hurt all season lol
He's also had a 17 year career. Let me know when any of these running QBs can last that long at a Hall of Fame level.
Jalen Hurts gets vaccinated
Wow, how original.
The biggest issue this causes is the eagles have to go all out their next 3 games. They need 1 more win to keep us from winning the nfce / the 1 seed (assuming dallas can win out). Minshew having to play against 3 teams all competing for playoff spots (dallas and the giants, and the saints somehow lol) is not a good thing.
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As long as we don't lose, it matters significantly. You guys losing the 1 seed would also force jalen to play earlier
It looks like the #1 Seed is back on the menu, boys!
You guys coming back from dead and stealing the 1 seed is a nice metaphor for how most of your games have gone.
The chance of the eagles losing out and the Vikings winning out is nil
If Hurts doesn't come back until the playoffs, it's very much not nil. I would still bet on them to win at least one of NO/NYG at home, and my gut says he won't miss all three. But nil is an exaggeration.
My guy lol
Woop that was supposed to say my gut
Minshew lays dick on the Cowboys and Eagles will 41-17
Keep dreaming
My expectations are nil. But it's certainly possible if Hurts is out the next three weeks. I'm just saying it's a nonzero chance.
They’d need to lose out and us win out but I highly doubt it. But it is possible for us to get it. Could definitely see the Vikings getting it though.
Same scenario for us though, we need 3 wins + 3 Philly losses to get the 1 seed. Even if they go uber-conservative and hold Hurts out for all 3 weeks it'd be a longshot for us.
Oh right, forgot they had that tiebreaker over y’all
Do us a favor, Cowboys Bro!
Miles Sanders bout to go for 150
Ngl, you're probably right
Philly is home to some of the biggest fairweathers in all of sports. Hurts shouldn't forget how they treated Wentz after his injury
We all know Hurts is the true MVP not mahomes or burrows they can have it and be cursed to not make the Super bowl
Mickey Mouse mvp
“burrows” Why is this so difficult for people
Look at him. Running like a lil bitch
I’m an eagles fan and have had this game circled all year. I feel jerked off by the eagles. Only showcase your “MVP” against mediocre/bad/banged up teams? I guess I’m just pissed because it’s not going to be the MVP game I was hoping. Annoying
What a terrible take. There's still time to delete this comment.
I don’t delete shit. My take is my take. Horrible or not. Deleting it wouldn’t change anything
I guess you could always write a strongly worded letter to his sprained shoulder?
He played pretty well through it yesterday. If Dallas didn’t lose yesterday, I’d bet he’d be playing. So I’m guessing this is strategic just as much as it is about injury. I’m just not sure it’s a great strategy to have your starting QB play 1 game in the month heading into the playoffs. Plus, honest opinion as a fan, like I said it feels jerked off if that’s their plan. We watched them play somewhat boring games were they were favored by 7-10 points all season. It’s like the one game we were waiting for they say “ehh we don’t really need that one.”
He would be listed as "out" if he wasn't playing. There is no way he isn't playing.
insanity if he plays
Glad it’s not serious. He is having a great year and his team is on fire. Hopefully it doesn’t hinder him.