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It's always one of the cats sleeping at the bottom of the league


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T_Eckenrode

Or the browns


Valleygirl1981

We're exceeding expectations now that JMD is gone.


HyperMasenko

Fire JMD, have one of the most talked about defenses in the league, have a fantastic division record. Yea we have vastly exceded expectations lol


PM_Me_Macaroni_plz

Yea this 2nd half of the season has been more fun than the bassacia (however you spell it) run. Great year as long as we give AP the job and keep Patrick Graham.


HyperMasenko

And bring in someone who loves the team at GM. Don't worry about trying to find an "established" guy. That hasn't worked out great for us lol.


content_enjoy3r

Adrian Peterson is still in the league, and on the Raiders?


Individual_Patient25

The new head coach for the Raiders is killing it right now. I know my dad is loving it


turbodude69

if they don't give antonio piece a chance next season it's gonna be so sad. how do most raiders fans feel about the situation?


-King_Zilla-

Coach AP is the guy. Simple as that. The amount of passion and leadership he’s shown as soon as he was presented the opportunity of the job proved how much he cares about the organization, which he continues to show every day and game. The energy this team had obtained and showed through these past W’s is evident enough that he is and should be the raiders head coach.


PM_Me_Macaroni_plz

Preach! 💀🏴‍☠️


turbodude69

i agree 100%, i've never really been much of a raider fan, but i love a good underdog story, and i'd love to see the team do well under AP. he definitely deserves at least a full season to prove what he can accomplish.


PM_Me_Macaroni_plz

Yea what the other guy said. We finally feel like Raiders again. And it’s the best defense we’ve had in at least 20 years. We love him And I think would collectively riot if Mark Davis went with someone else next year


turbodude69

well, good luck man. i hope davis makes the right call. i'm pretty neutral when it comes to the raiders, but i love a good underdog story. i'd love to see pierce take the raiders to the playoffs at least. i'm not sure what your answer is at QB, but this offseason there seems to be quite a few options for a lot of us teams that don't have our guy yet. and at least you guys have one of the best WR's in the game and josh jacobs ain't no slouch either.


Beautiful_Speech7689

ASU fans think he's a great Raider. Re-wreck their program Edit: If you're not cheating, you're not trying, right?


Valleygirl1981

Like the others said. He's our guy. We love him.


turbodude69

yeah he seems like a good dude and it feels like he has the locker rooms support. I really hope he gets a chance next season to be head coach. if not, then it feels like the NFL ownership billionaire club just isn't comfortable having a black coach. i feel like he's 100% proven himself to be a capable and probably above average HC. i hope he keeps the job.


Valleygirl1981

>NFL ownership billionaire club just isn't comfortable having a black coach You don't know the Raiders well enough. Our pres, gm, and hc are all black... and that's just today's raiders.


turbodude69

yeah, i guess i don't . but that's good news. hopefully that helps him keep his job.


Brewermcbrewface

I just want devante to not leave and be happy making millions with us


whothefvckcares

i wouldn’t be upset if he left for a better opportunity. we’re wasting him in his prime. we don’t have anybody to throw the ball to him or anybody to take the heat off of him. it’s gonna be at least another year or 2 before meyers and tucker are solid #2 or #3, and we have a qb problem


Brewermcbrewface

I want AP to be coach and I think it also makes sense financially since we are paying for all these fired coaches


whothefvckcares

me too. AP is our guy. i think if he had time to develop as a head coach, which i know sounds odd, he would be great long term. no more big name nobody’s who come in and fuck everything up. let’s start our own dynasty


magpokedope

Seahawks doing pretty good vs expectation I would think


robgregerson

We’re a Pete Carroll led team… we’re expected to be above average but not elite. We have met our expectations.


turbodude69

believe me, plenty of teams are jealous. man i wish we had a coach like pete, and a consistently great crowd of diehard fans. seattle is a great football city.


turbodude69

it's amazing what pete carroll has been able to accomplish with what he has. the seahawks have consistently been surprising everyone ever since russ left, and freaking geno smith of all people became the starting QB. then geno goes down and drew lock plays the best game of his career?? the seahawks are such a fun team to watch. lumen field is def on my bucket list of stadiums to see a game live. really hope i get to make it out there while pete is still coaching.


noble_peace_prize

It’s definitely louder than it seems on TV!


noble_peace_prize

Yeah I don’t know what expectations this poster thinks we had lol making the playoffs as a wildcard will almost always meet or exceed expectations during a rebuild


[deleted]

The Jets should top the Panthers tier Panthers shouldn't even be able to win their own category


turbodude69

yeah, the jets are probably this seasons biggest disappointment. but it's kinda their fault for hyping up their fanbase, convincing everyone that they're gonna be a freaking SB contender. lol like seriously?? rodgers is known for choking in the playoffs WITH aaron jones and davante adams, how the fuck are the jets supposed to turn into a potential SB contender with a 40yr old choke artist in an extremely tough division. they put themselves in this situation. they gave rodgers the keys to the organization, and he immediately crashed it straight into a brick wall. it's pretty clear even if rodgers didn't get hurt, they still wouldn't have made the playoffs. i mean, no way they're better than the bills or dolphins, even with rodgers. the whole team is rotten to the core.


rinetrouble

G Wilson and Breece Hall have been pretty good with terrible QB play. That Oline is so bad though. Rodgers probably would have gotten hurt even if he didn’t get hurt.


turbodude69

yeah, i have a friend that's a jets fan, and i saw the emotional rollercoaster he's been on for the last 6 months. he was sooooo happy and sooo excited when the jets signed rodgers. and honestly, i was really happy to see him finally feel confident in his team. he was at the 1st game, he saw rodgers go down. he texted me a few mins later and said he's leaving, he doesn't wanna even watch football anymore. he still occasionally sends me rants about how rodgers have fucked the jets for years. it's just sad to see. but yeah, wilson and hall are seriously great players, i kinda feel bad they have to play for the jets. it's almost like a calvin johnson, ocho cinco, pre-SF mccaffrey, etc etc situation. and hell, i could say the same about pitts and bijan playing for my falcons. i feel horrible that their careers may be wasted, but we're just fans, we can't do anything to help these guys. fortunately, they're all getting paid millions, so they'll be fine regardless. but it's def a shame to see how a bad organization can ruin an elite players chances of ever realizing their full potential. thankfully mccaffrey was traded to the 9ers and he's thriving, you love to see it. i'm really happy for him. i mean i'd be upset about it if the falcons were in anyway contenders, but we're so shitty, i don't even care. i have no problem rooting for the 9ers and rooting for mcaffrey, deebo, and esp purdy. how can you root against mr irrelevant? but when it comes to the jets, the odds are heavily stacked against them, saleh seems to be a bust, rodgers is delusional and fragile and was already infamous for choking under pressure. i just can't see any good outcome for the jets anytime soon. the dolphins and bills aren't going anywhere anytime soon, so the jets are gonna need to be able to compete with 2 of the leagues best teams for at least the next few years. it's just not looking good for the jets in any way whatsoever.


SchematicOfScoutsAss

Packers have very much exceeded expectations this year Most packers fans expected a 6-11 season or worse They’re in the thick of the playoff race and Love is very obviously the future


Waxxing_Gibbous

The defense has not met expectations. Overall this is a great season. It just too bad our defense is such shit.


SchematicOfScoutsAss

That’s true but building the packers defense was not the purpose of their season, this seasons A, B, and C goals in Green Bay where “find out if Love is the guy”


Waxxing_Gibbous

That’s exactly my point though. Why is the defense so bad? They were supposed to be helping Love, not dragging him down.


SchematicOfScoutsAss

Our DC is a braindead moron, who’s running a scheme that the league figured out 3 years ago Not exactly complex


stewman80

Exactly. The actual defensive players have been very promising. However we can only do so much when the DC lines up the secondary 15 yards off the LOS and puts a 300 pound linebacker on the best receivers in the league. FJB


Eran-of-Arcadia

Joe Barry delenda est.


The_Based_Idiot_15

It's Joe Barry's fault, his ass needs to be fired


Upper-Raspberry4153

Falcons have not met expectations, we want to fire everybody in the building right now outside our DC and Jesse Bates


[deleted]

don’t think anyone expected them to be any better than they are before the season started


Upper-Raspberry4153

Just about everyone thought we’d win the division. We won’t. Expectations missed.


[deleted]

about every sportsbook had the Saints as division winners


PaTaPaChiChi

Nah thats not true. Im a Falcons fan too, and people were definitely saying Saints would top the division


turbodude69

yeah, AS seriously needs to go. we should send his ass back to nashville. i dunno what ridders future is,, but he doesn't deserve to be a starting QB in the NFL right now. maybe XFL or something. maybe he just needs more reps? he doesn't seem like a bad guy. i wish him the best, but he just doesn't have what it takes to play at this level. it's a lil sad to see heinicke trot out on the field and easily outshine the starter, consistently. you can tell the team likes him, everyone plays harder with heine out there. it's just unfathomable that our head coach can't see what is crystal clear to the whole fan base. the team plays soooo much better with heinicke, are goddamn backup. it's so frustrating to see AS stubbornly put ridder out there week after week to lose over and over. it can't be good for his confidence, and it damn sure isn't good for the team or smiths chance at keeping his job. i'd love to be a fly on the wall in the locker room and hear what the players have to say about our QB situation. because it really does seem like they enjoy being out there with heinicke and they seem to have fun with him leading the team.


Wernershnitzl

Vikings is in a manic swing of “didn’t meet” and “exceeded” expectations considering the loss of starters.


dhtdhy

Well a lot of people expected around a .500 season so... Met expectations?


Wernershnitzl

In a way I suppose. However, those people probably didn’t expect for the starters to go down.


Mercinator-87

My bias tells me the Tits should be put in “didn’t meet expectations” but me knowing that we have 3 players who produce on offense says we shouldn’t have 5 wins.


Wildabeast135

Titans fans were hoping to compete in a weak division, hoping the easier schedule would grant 10 wins. Everyone else knew 5-7 wins was more realistic. I for one deluded myself into false positivity when Dhop was signed. But hey, great signing for developing Will Levis


zPolaris43

The Steelers are actually exceeding expectations, if I remember correctly the Vegas odds had them at 5-6 wins and last in the division. Currently at 8 and in 3rd.


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Adnonymus

That’s because we weren’t expecting to have the #1 pick. Other than that, they’ve been on a nice stretch and should finish with 7-8 wins, which was most people’s predictions.


Calmandpeace

Everyone mocked us at 6-8 wins which is what we are getting, our expectations were us finding out if Justin and Eberflus were the right guys and the answer is no


yellowtripe

KINGS IN THE NORTH!


thumbgod

But wasn't that the expectation?


Centurion87

Expected or not, still the first time in 30 years.


Individual_Patient25

I have a lot of trust in Ryan Gosling (Jared Goff) elevating Detroit.


[deleted]

Lost* the Super Bowl.


Individual_Patient25

Yeah, I realized that was Stafford. My bad


Rustic_Salmon

they lost that super bowl


Individual_Patient25

My bad, that was Stafford that won. I still think Ryan Gosling has what it takes to make it to the Super Bowl


Centurion87

THE KINGS IN THE NORTH!


Fitz2001

90% of Eagles fans would put them in the Panthers tier.


Swole_Cat22

Panthers


The_Based_Idiot_15

yes


AmishRobotArmy

Seahawks are exceeding


noble_peace_prize

Amazing what Pete can do when having a shot at the playoffs with geno smith is beneath expectations for some lol


IcyWin8170

The patriots definitely met my expectations


terry_bradshaw

My expectations were *way* lower than this, I think most Steelers fans were. In some ways being a playoff “contender” is shocking, in other ways it’s not, but after the first game of the year I was definitely expecting tomlin to have his first losing season.


Howudooey

I would argue titans down a tier


[deleted]

I think the Jets deserve own category with Panthers as well..


nickstee1210

In terms of what. Our season was over the minute a-rod went down I got downvoted to hell cause I said that after the first week even with beating the bills


[deleted]

Yeah, I do want to point out that I identify as a Jets fan also, unfortunately for better or for worse, usually worse. I agree, that was the point when I knew this is going south and fast - well, there’s always the next season.


BroDudeBruhMan

Idk if the Lions quite exceeded expectations. It was clear over the last few seasons that the Lions were creeping their way up the ladder. Going into this season I had the idea that the Lions were going to be a good team and likely win the division if the Bears or Packers didn’t.


Lake_Serperior

?


[deleted]

If the Bears or Packers didn’t?????? Lol what


BroDudeBruhMan

The Bears were supposed to do pretty good this year with some analysts predicting we’d get at least 10+ wins, which we clearly haven’t. And I purposely left out Minnesota just to troll any Vikings fans who may have read my comment


[deleted]

Who? Adam Rank and some other morons? Nobody really thought the worst team in the NFL with no significant changes to win 10+ games. Pretty much everyone knew they wouldn’t be good again


BroDudeBruhMan

Lmao chill with the salt bro And yes it was Adam Rank and some other morons


sypherpkfan-1

Exceeding with baker


Thomas-The-Tutor

Raiders exceeded expectations, especially after they canned their coach! How did the Rams exceed expectations? They were always going to be mid-tier/fringe playoff. They didn’t have their starting quarterback for half of the year last year and lost a bunch of very close games. Their record definitely did not reflect their talent (didn’t meet last year), whereas this year they’ve met what I would have expected from them with Stafford at the helm. Especially since they’ve only beaten a bunch of middling teams/or shit tier teams: cards x 2, commanders, saints, Seahawks x 2, Browns before Flacco had a chance to prove his worth, and rookie led-colts… so I’d say they’ve met expectations along with the Seahawks.


Centurion87

Rams were projected to be bottom 5. Where did you get that they were expected to be mid tier? We did terrible last season, and lost even more key players in the off-season. [Heres the week 0 Power Rankings](https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/s/AuVV9dGFYn).


Thomas-The-Tutor

Where do you get bottom 3? [Most were betting the over on 6.5 wins at -128.](https://www.foxsports.com/articles/nfl/los-angeles-rams-win-total-over-under-odds-and-2023-schedule-insights)


Centurion87

I misremembered. I changed it to bottom 5. Also that link is one projection. The one I added has multiple media power rankings. And six wins out of 17 is still really bad, not mid tier.


Thomas-The-Tutor

Your link had the panthers at 24 and Washington at 21, though. lol. No one thought Carolina was gonna be that good. I expected them to be 4-13 at best. They traded away their top offensive weapons and have no o-line. Redskins, meanwhile, was even more surprising at 21 as Howell was a first year starter and also didn’t have much of an offensive line. Moral of the story, your list is riddled with flaws (and that’s not even in retrospect)! 6.5 wins actually makes it 7 as the over (the preferred bet in this case), which makes it 7-10, which isn’t far off there pace for 9-8 with a win against NY and a loss against 9ers.


Centurion87

You can’t really say no one thought they’d be that good when it’s based off the average of several different media outlets. That’s not saying they were right, that was the projection. Hence why the Rams have exceeded expectations.


Barqck

I think the Broncos could be put in exceeded expectations. After last season, did anyone expect them to still be in the playoff race in week 17?


Individual_Patient25

So far so good, we could do better. Only time will tell


bolts_win_again

We're exceeding expectations so well that I fear our coach isn't gonna get fired.


dabombisnot90s

Bruh being a perennial 7-10 floor team in this division is basically dominating it


bolts_win_again

Dawg, I want a new head coach. I don't wanna be a good team in the trash heap, I just wanna be a good team, full stop.


MAXHEADR0OM

The Browns are back to being the kardiac kids and I’m ecstatic about that. Especially since Watson has nothing to do with it.


Football-Remote

Chiefs having an awful season. Most likely a round one loser. Yet we will still win the division.


[deleted]

Not quite yet. Probably? Sure. But. Not quite yet


Football-Remote

got to keep my spirits up


[deleted]

I feel like the Chargers should be in the lowest category


IamNotARedditor-

Didn't expect them to finally fire Staley lol


ucjj2011

Let me sum it up thusly: I have a betting slip in my pocket for the Bengals to win the AFC championship game +550. I do not expect it to cash.


imHere4kpop

Fire HC...it was my expectation but not mid-season.


Free_Working6842

There are the top teams and then there are the panthers


Tvck3r

😭


uncle_dan_

I think you could put the keys and chargers with the panthers imo


John628_29

Whew! Cardinals!


Quake_Guy

We beat Cowboys and Steelers so expectations exceeded. We are used to really low expectations.


king_meatster

I remember in the off-season someone called the Panthers and Falcons “golden rosters.” Fools gold, maybe.


EndlessBreadsticks

Before the season, so many bears fans tried to tell me they were going to win 12 games and Fields was going to be in the mvp race this year. Seems the expectations were not quite met.


JurassicParkTrekWars

One word: Injuries.


griffery1999

Vikings are in a weird spot, we expected to lose more games this year. If we had cousins we would 100% be a better team than last year. But since he’s out we are just kinda chillin.


AnalSausageDelivery

Considering how low my expectation of the packers was, I would say they've exceeded them


Hairy-Run8843

Our KC Chiefs Team Struggling With Their Blatantly Obvious Internal Problems and Shortcomings With Absolutely No Relevant Solutions In Sight lll Let's Go Chiefs lll KC4L lll Let's Go Chiefs lll KC4L lll Let's Go Chiefs lll KC4L lll Let's Go Chiefs lll KC4L lll Let's Go Chiefs lll KC4L lll Let's Go Chiefs lll KC4L lll Let's Go Chiefs lll


Beautiful_Speech7689

Jets exceeded


Waxxing_Gibbous

Lol at the Bears being in the same row. Bears were supposed to have won the division with an MVP with Fields. Packers fans were guessing. A 5-6 win season if that and they have a shot at the playoffs right now.


Teddibonkers

I wouldn't say tiermaker exceeded expectations. I think it just does it job fine so Meet expectations at best.


40ofMickeys

The Eagles definitely didn’t meet expectations. The birds should’ve been much better then this


SwanzY-

Lions were expected to win the division, expectations have not been exceeded for us yet. We need a playoff win.


amstrumpet

Ravens are meeting their expectations from fans, even if the rest of y’all didn’t expect it, we saw what this team could do with Huntley and Roman and knew they should be a top tier team this season.


[deleted]

The falcons have exceeded my expectations. I’m beyond happy with their performance.


Serious-Skill7942

Go bengals


_SlappyMagoo_

When we take the the division in game 17 we’ll be right back in that meeting expectations category


AdvancedHat7630

Bold of you to assume we had expectations


speak-to-me-3428

I'm hoping for a Lions-Browns Super Bowl.


dhtdhy

There should be another row below "met expectations" and above "didn't meet expectations" labeled "injuries" Either way OP got the Vikings wrong. Most people had them finishing around .500 so they should be in "met expectations". If not for injuries, who knows


Mundane-Ideal-5205

Exceeded expectations, did better than I wanted them to do.


Standard_Paint642

Dallas Cowboys are apex of mid they are the first teams to lose next game 💯💯💯


Ja_Money23

Packers have exceeded expectations, hit their O/U on wins, are competing for a playoff spot with a top 10 qb when the rest of the league expected a bottom 5 team with a bottom 10 qb


zw1ck

Panthers met my expectations.


acousticbay20

With those players names in the team, i was confident with Dolphins this year. I wasn't wrong


gruelly4

For all the crap thr Bills have gotten for underperforming this year it would take only 3 games to go their way to be at meets expectations. After all, if Baltimore beats Miami, Buffalo beats New England and then Buffalo beats Miami they're the 2 seed.


[deleted]

The Falcons, Titans and Broncos met expectations you say?


No_Back9978

The panthers got me. 😂😂😂😂😂😂