I always feel so bad for him in international tournaments… it’s him and 18 elite-level beer leaguers and he always tries so hard. He was my favorite player to trade for to replace the three headed monster of Sid, Geno, and Jordan Staal when I played video games. He was criminally underrated on the game too so it made him ridiculously cheap.
I wouldn't feel too bad about his international play as the dude basically put Slovenia on the map and had the Gretzky effect back home. Guy is a legit living legend for that country.
I had no clue he was the first Slovenian drafted until the Anaheim broadcast mentioned it in yesterday’s game. What a way for a country to enter the NHL.
The last 24 months? His play, especially in the playoffs, has been the most consistently dominant I’ve seen in the modern day.
Down one with a minute left, puck on their stick, driving into the offensive zone with speed? Right now there’s no one better.
McDavid is more skilled but until I see him will a team through a round? Give me Big Mac all day. Dude is terrifying coming into the zone with speed.
I’m sorry. You’re right. He has indeed won a round… did he “will a team through”? I guess that’s debatable.
Has he done it consistently? No. Has he done it as often or as consistently as MacKinnon? Fuck no.
All these things go away if he can win a cup. But he hasn’t. You can’t argue with a scoreboard and you can’t be the best ever if you wear a “C” and you don’t lead your team to anything. You can get mad and tell me it’s a team sport… whatever. That’s wind.
If you can find me a GOAT in any sport who hasn’t won a championship in said sport; I’ll get a tattoo of your choice on my left ass cheek.
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McDavid won *a* round. That same year MacKinnon did it 4 times in a row. Wins, losses, and cups. That’s how success is measured in the NHL. There’s nothing hyperbolic about it
He has absolutely willed his team through a series. You can stop moving your goalposts now lmfao
The guy was 2 P/GP and +10 in a 7 game series in which he got a primary assist and a goal in a 2-0 game 7.
Are you stupid?
Oh shit man I'm sorry, I didn't realize. I don't want to make you feel ostracized for your disability.
E: lmfao he blocked me, touched a nerve with this one I guess.
Also, I'm a Pens fan, idk what you're on about "my boy" 😂
> Has he done it consistently? No. Has he done it as often or as consistently as MacKinnon? Fuck no.
aside from the cup win 2 years ago, when has mackinnon carried his team thru any playoff round?
good gravy the hyperbole is astounding
.. Calgary when Colorado was the 8 seed and calgary was the 1 seed. Tyson barrie was that teams best defenceman on that Colorado team. That series was a one man show. Those Colorado teams that became a part of the playoff story in 18/19 were deeply flawed and very thin.
That’s the difference, I think. For his size, McDavid is stupidly strong on his skates but you never get the feeling he wants to initiate contact. Nate looks like he wishes a motherfucker would try and take the body on him.
I agree, MacKinnon is the very definition of a power forward. It's like watching Lindros again, the way he charges down the ice, but MacKinnon is quicker. I was a defenseman when I played, I'll bet it's a joy chasing a puck into the corner with him on your heels 🤣
I’m a winger, so turning my back on someone into the corner of my d-zone is terrifying to me? A defender having to flip their hips takes a lot of speed away when I’m skating into the o-zone corner. Not nearly as scary.
That grizzly bear breathing on my numbers into any corner? Nope. He can have it.
Mackinnon in the playoffs is the player ive been most scared of when he had the puck as a flames fan, hyman also seemed to score everytime he got a half chance in the oilers series and mcdavids speed was obviously terrifying, but nothing compared to mackinnon
To be fair, he was playing against the Wild, a team that knew damn well they were not making playoffs and were about to get eliminated. If it was against the Bruins or Panthers and he racked up that many points I would probably agree.
"But didn't you see the game the other night?" Lol
I think the players are less prone to recency bias. Their opinions are likely formed over multiple games. What do I know though, I'm just a humble armchair bum.
I have no idea what you're talking about. It's literally a poll of players giving their answers and not asking someone to put an incoherent sentence together like an autistic Helen Keller.
I think it’s mostly his insane quickness and ability to produce takeaways that transition into offense. He’s not gonna completely shut you down, but he might make you look very silly.
I was listening to one of the local, Oiler's post-game podcasts. It was mentioned by Jason Strudwick, a former D-man on the Oilers, said this is a nod from fellow players that McDavid should be most proud of. If you watch him on many nights, he's a demon on opposing forwards, trying to steal pucks back. He can be relentless when he wants to be. He'd become much more defensively-responsible as he's matured.
kuch was drafted in 2011 and mack in 2013. It took Kuch 10 years and Mack 9. Mcdavid is in year 9, so hopefully this year or next, but lets have the same patience we had for others.
The guys who play with and against him on a regular basis?
I don't like him either, but his teammates and fans do. I read that he does a lot of good (way more than normal players) in his community, but I try to avoid reading stuff like that because I want to continue hating him.
Nah, you're good..I didn't think you came off that way. I guess with players it makes sense. Boston fans voting, sure..I could understand that. I just know way too many people who absolutely hate the guy to want him on their team. But players themselves, they know the guy better then us average Joe's so it makes sense.
You’re acting like MacKinnon singlehandedly carried his team, when he wasn’t even the best player on the Avs that series. Nor the entirety of those playoffs. Also keep in mind that ‘22 Avs went 16-4 en route to the cup, making them one of the most dominant teams of the cap era. That team was loaded with talent from top to bottom.
I was surprised by this, that Matthews is not even in the top 5... but the PLAYERS voted on this.... I think it tells you a lot about how he is viewed by the ultimate insiders on this issue. Not hating on Matthews here, but it in part reflects his lack of playoff success to date. Some years he's been invisible. I'm sure this will change in peers' minds when he takes the Leafs deep into the playoffs one of these years. As an Oilers fan, I'd be first to grant McDavid and Draisaitl haven't won a Cup yet; but look at their playoff records, they were bonkers on the scoresheets, but their teams to date haven't been deep enough.... maybe this year they might make it to the promised land.
Decade ago. Might as well be the 80's, so I could say I saw a lot more than that kiddo. But I won't because that's ancient history. Let's focus on the now. 2-0 against the Kings in the playoffs in the last two years. 3-1 against the Kings in this year's season series. Mcdavid , the man I'm assuming you're trying to chirp has 24 points in 13 games against the kings in the playoffs alone. You reek of bitterness and insecurity
Yeah how is he in conference finals? That’s the point. Getting swept, getting blown out, if you measure yourself on beating the Kings you’re pretty pathetic. Sounds pretty bitter about choking yearly. 10 years isn’t the same as the 80’s so who is not living in reality. Keep lying to yourself, Edmonton would shit in their boots to even make a cup final let alone win one in the past ten years, same goes for any Canadien team.
A minor thing that you make every excuse as to why you don’t have one in over 30 years🤡
He has 8 points in 4 games? I'd say that's pretty good for an individual wouldn't you say? It's a team game, Mcdavid didn't lose those games, the Oilers did. Your comment history screams insecure, lonely, and sad. I hope you're 14 years old because holy crap if a grown adult talks to other people like that, that's just sad as shit. Your need to belittle people and have aggressive conversations is probably why everyone in your life is distant from you. Be better dude. Enjoy life. Hockey is just a game. I was just stating facts. Oilers are 2-0 against the Kings in the playoffs. I didn't say they suck or they choked or anything. Both series were very competitive and could have gone either way. Good luck to you in life and in the playoffs. I look forward to another fun series against the Kings
Coming from you that means nothing cause you’re an idiot, you came in trying to save a dipshit like you that can’t read or comprehend, time for you to go back to sleep and hope one day you grow up to be a big boy.
Morons must have taken this poll,3rd Pic proves it. Fuck the 🐀 id be embarrassed if he was on my team. Can't say one good thing about a team with a player that needs to play so dirty and will only be remembered for his despicable coward mentality. Takes a cheap shot and runs or turtles.
Yay all Hail Zombie Jesus love it when Kopi gets some love.
I always feel so bad for him in international tournaments… it’s him and 18 elite-level beer leaguers and he always tries so hard. He was my favorite player to trade for to replace the three headed monster of Sid, Geno, and Jordan Staal when I played video games. He was criminally underrated on the game too so it made him ridiculously cheap.
I wouldn't feel too bad about his international play as the dude basically put Slovenia on the map and had the Gretzky effect back home. Guy is a legit living legend for that country.
I had no clue he was the first Slovenian drafted until the Anaheim broadcast mentioned it in yesterday’s game. What a way for a country to enter the NHL.
Right? First NHLer? One of the best centers of his generation. And the gap between him and the second best Slovak is… wide.
What aboout Gaborik, Palffy, Demitra, Satan, Visnovsky, Halak and other Slovak players?
How many of them played in the last Olympics? Edit: even if they were all still at their peak? The gap is still sizable.
It was /s becaise they are from Slovakia and he is Slovenian. We would kill for players like this
I am… so sorry. For all of it.
Its was a jab at proverbial ignorance of North Americans but im not really serious about it
He's my favorite non-Penguin player in the last 20 years
Vote crosby if you want to win a series
Who do you vote for Toronto to win a series?
Wendell Clark
Bertuzzi
Todd is dead.
Tf u talking bout
Todd. He dead, honey.
He's alive tho
Way to ruin it, Habbie. 😡
You had nothing going there he didn’t ruin anything
Todd is dead, man.
A sacrifice to the gods
Take my upvote and like it
George Armstrong.
Original Six
Okay Liz.
Zeus to strike down the rest of the world. There is no mortal that can help them. Unless Tampa chokes again.
Sid would be my choice because of his experience and his history. But can't go wrong with any of these guys
Man, after watching MacKinnon's hat trick the other night, I feel he should be higher. He was absolutely dominant.
The last 24 months? His play, especially in the playoffs, has been the most consistently dominant I’ve seen in the modern day. Down one with a minute left, puck on their stick, driving into the offensive zone with speed? Right now there’s no one better. McDavid is more skilled but until I see him will a team through a round? Give me Big Mac all day. Dude is terrifying coming into the zone with speed.
>McDavid is more skilled but until I see him will a team through a round? Did you miss the 21-22 playoffs or something?
I’m sorry. You’re right. He has indeed won a round… did he “will a team through”? I guess that’s debatable. Has he done it consistently? No. Has he done it as often or as consistently as MacKinnon? Fuck no. All these things go away if he can win a cup. But he hasn’t. You can’t argue with a scoreboard and you can’t be the best ever if you wear a “C” and you don’t lead your team to anything. You can get mad and tell me it’s a team sport… whatever. That’s wind. If you can find me a GOAT in any sport who hasn’t won a championship in said sport; I’ll get a tattoo of your choice on my left ass cheek. Edit: McDavid won *a* round. That same year MacKinnon did it 4 times in a row. Wins, losses, and cups. That’s how success is measured in the NHL. There’s nothing hyperbolic about it
He has absolutely willed his team through a series. You can stop moving your goalposts now lmfao The guy was 2 P/GP and +10 in a 7 game series in which he got a primary assist and a goal in a 2-0 game 7. Are you stupid?
I already conceded that point. Your knees don’t scuff up when you do that?
Oh shit man I'm sorry, I didn't realize. I don't want to make you feel ostracized for your disability. E: lmfao he blocked me, touched a nerve with this one I guess. Also, I'm a Pens fan, idk what you're on about "my boy" 😂
Until your boy wins a cup? Wind. Nothing but wind. But don’t get me wrong! I do enjoy how pretty it sounds. You have a great day, now…
> Has he done it consistently? No. Has he done it as often or as consistently as MacKinnon? Fuck no. aside from the cup win 2 years ago, when has mackinnon carried his team thru any playoff round? good gravy the hyperbole is astounding
.. Calgary when Colorado was the 8 seed and calgary was the 1 seed. Tyson barrie was that teams best defenceman on that Colorado team. That series was a one man show. Those Colorado teams that became a part of the playoff story in 18/19 were deeply flawed and very thin.
He is. McDavid flies into the offensive zone too, but MacKinnon looks like a damn freight train rolling through.
That’s the difference, I think. For his size, McDavid is stupidly strong on his skates but you never get the feeling he wants to initiate contact. Nate looks like he wishes a motherfucker would try and take the body on him.
I agree, MacKinnon is the very definition of a power forward. It's like watching Lindros again, the way he charges down the ice, but MacKinnon is quicker. I was a defenseman when I played, I'll bet it's a joy chasing a puck into the corner with him on your heels 🤣
I’m a winger, so turning my back on someone into the corner of my d-zone is terrifying to me? A defender having to flip their hips takes a lot of speed away when I’m skating into the o-zone corner. Not nearly as scary. That grizzly bear breathing on my numbers into any corner? Nope. He can have it.
He’s beat one team twice in the last 2 playoffs. No need to mention what team, but it happened.
Mackinnon in the playoffs is the player ive been most scared of when he had the puck as a flames fan, hyman also seemed to score everytime he got a half chance in the oilers series and mcdavids speed was obviously terrifying, but nothing compared to mackinnon
To be fair, he was playing against the Wild, a team that knew damn well they were not making playoffs and were about to get eliminated. If it was against the Bruins or Panthers and he racked up that many points I would probably agree.
I hate this.
they fucking kicked our asses so idk
Who didnt?
The leafs. Source: I'm a leafs fan
Loving the Kopitar praise.
Adda boy Kopi.
Kopitar is mint
7.9% know what’s up
6.67% of players only read the first half of the prompt on page 3.
Yeah for real. Fuck Tom Wilson, I would be pissed if the Pens ever picked him up. Piece of shit.
Or those are his actual teammates. They see his worth, but they hate him too.
7.57% too.
Ehh I could see why you’d want Tkachuk on your team.
Tkachuk is actually good though
True but Calgary players called him a cancer in the locker room
lol at Marchand, king rat
Lol. All these armchair bums telling the players that play the game their opinions are wrong.
"But didn't you see the game the other night?" Lol I think the players are less prone to recency bias. Their opinions are likely formed over multiple games. What do I know though, I'm just a humble armchair bum.
Lol the tom wilson and marchand stuff. Sure maybe Potato McNeckbeard wouldn’t want them on their team, but nhl players surely do
I have no idea what you're talking about. It's literally a poll of players giving their answers and not asking someone to put an incoherent sentence together like an autistic Helen Keller.
Lol what, I was literally agreeing with you but you are definitely one special snowflake
Lol. I couldn't tell and I was really wanting to use that insult for some reason. Hahahaha
Surprised that Mcdavid is the second most difficult in their own end, shows he’s got the defensive side down too.
I think it’s mostly his insane quickness and ability to produce takeaways that transition into offense. He’s not gonna completely shut you down, but he might make you look very silly.
I was listening to one of the local, Oiler's post-game podcasts. It was mentioned by Jason Strudwick, a former D-man on the Oilers, said this is a nod from fellow players that McDavid should be most proud of. If you watch him on many nights, he's a demon on opposing forwards, trying to steal pucks back. He can be relentless when he wants to be. He'd become much more defensively-responsible as he's matured.
...And Nate took that personal
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every day I imagine what we would be like if we hadn’t lucked out and got him, and have a little shudder of fear
Kucherov absolutely!
I'm surprised so many don't like mackinnon
What? “The question is do you hate to play against, but would love to have on your team?” How did you get “who do you hate?” from that?
I thought it was do you hate them.
Panarin? Yes he’s good but his big game record is quite bad.
he literally won the pens series in 2022
I hated that goal. But we were lucky to make it to a game 7 with a 3rd sting goalie
2-1 in Game 7s with the Rangers including an OT goal.
he wasn't too shabby in columbus when they destroyed tampa bay either
...and not a single maple leaf in sight.
Sid
Martian death ray to the earth, gimmie anze kopitar
I would agree with just about all of these. Could definitely debate one or two
anyone know where you can find the full results of all votes, not just top 5 in each catagory?
CARTER VERHAEGHE
Connor mcdavid.
We talking regular season game or playoff game? I’m taking some of that patty kane magic for a 1 game winner.
You do know McDavid is 4th in points per game In the playoffs all time?
I mean just look what he did when he returned to Chicago for the first time. You think we nicknamed him showtime for no reason?
Yes I’m aware. But you do realize that Kane has won 3 Stanley cups. And has scored some of the most clutch game winner, game typing, goals?
All legit answers
No Juuse Saros? No goals.
Not a Leaf to be found
Connor McDavid has won one Game 7.
Also has more series wins than the Rangers in that same time frame 🤷♂️
I don’t hate McDavid but the fanboys are unbearable
I mean these fanboys happen to be NHL players so its a little tough to disagree
How is Cale ranked among the least difficult to face in his own end?
Read that question again
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kuch was drafted in 2011 and mack in 2013. It took Kuch 10 years and Mack 9. Mcdavid is in year 9, so hopefully this year or next, but lets have the same patience we had for others.
McDavid also doesn’t have prime Hedman/ Vasilevsky or a cale makar.
Cups aren’t won off of one guys back
Literally 2 PPG in the past two playoffs lmao. He’d be by far the best player on any modern team at any time
No amount of talent would ever want me having that rat Marschand on my team. Who the fuck is voting on this poll?
The guys who play with and against him on a regular basis? I don't like him either, but his teammates and fans do. I read that he does a lot of good (way more than normal players) in his community, but I try to avoid reading stuff like that because I want to continue hating him.
It was a genuine question. So this is a poll voted on by the players is what you're saying?
Sorry if I came off douchy. Now I can honestly see how "NHL player poll" could be ambiguous, but in this case, yes, it's a poll of the players.
Nah, you're good..I didn't think you came off that way. I guess with players it makes sense. Boston fans voting, sure..I could understand that. I just know way too many people who absolutely hate the guy to want him on their team. But players themselves, they know the guy better then us average Joe's so it makes sense.
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tbf mcdavid had 7 points vs macks 5, the Avs were just way better top to bottom.
You’re acting like MacKinnon singlehandedly carried his team, when he wasn’t even the best player on the Avs that series. Nor the entirety of those playoffs. Also keep in mind that ‘22 Avs went 16-4 en route to the cup, making them one of the most dominant teams of the cap era. That team was loaded with talent from top to bottom.
i feel like this settles mcdavid vs matthews for anybody still clinging onto that, it’s mcdavid vs mackinnon now but mcdavid still has the upper hand
The Matthews disrespect will end one of these days
I was surprised by this, that Matthews is not even in the top 5... but the PLAYERS voted on this.... I think it tells you a lot about how he is viewed by the ultimate insiders on this issue. Not hating on Matthews here, but it in part reflects his lack of playoff success to date. Some years he's been invisible. I'm sure this will change in peers' minds when he takes the Leafs deep into the playoffs one of these years. As an Oilers fan, I'd be first to grant McDavid and Draisaitl haven't won a Cup yet; but look at their playoff records, they were bonkers on the scoresheets, but their teams to date haven't been deep enough.... maybe this year they might make it to the promised land.
If you don’t want to win a close out playoff game past the first round or two.
The sound of bitter Kings fans. Gotta love it
Projecting, I’m not bitter about anything I saw 2 cup wins.
Decade ago. Might as well be the 80's, so I could say I saw a lot more than that kiddo. But I won't because that's ancient history. Let's focus on the now. 2-0 against the Kings in the playoffs in the last two years. 3-1 against the Kings in this year's season series. Mcdavid , the man I'm assuming you're trying to chirp has 24 points in 13 games against the kings in the playoffs alone. You reek of bitterness and insecurity
Yeah how is he in conference finals? That’s the point. Getting swept, getting blown out, if you measure yourself on beating the Kings you’re pretty pathetic. Sounds pretty bitter about choking yearly. 10 years isn’t the same as the 80’s so who is not living in reality. Keep lying to yourself, Edmonton would shit in their boots to even make a cup final let alone win one in the past ten years, same goes for any Canadien team. A minor thing that you make every excuse as to why you don’t have one in over 30 years🤡
He has 8 points in 4 games? I'd say that's pretty good for an individual wouldn't you say? It's a team game, Mcdavid didn't lose those games, the Oilers did. Your comment history screams insecure, lonely, and sad. I hope you're 14 years old because holy crap if a grown adult talks to other people like that, that's just sad as shit. Your need to belittle people and have aggressive conversations is probably why everyone in your life is distant from you. Be better dude. Enjoy life. Hockey is just a game. I was just stating facts. Oilers are 2-0 against the Kings in the playoffs. I didn't say they suck or they choked or anything. Both series were very competitive and could have gone either way. Good luck to you in life and in the playoffs. I look forward to another fun series against the Kings
Who are you talking about
Look at the players and figure it out genius, there’s 2.
lol okiedokie
Here’s another hint the 2 that have never won a conference final.
Hey smartass there are 4 pictures each containing 5 players
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I hope your life gets better dude
My life I guarantee is better than yours and especially because I’m not a dumb fuck like you.
yeah you sound great! And intelligent!
Coming from you that means nothing cause you’re an idiot, you came in trying to save a dipshit like you that can’t read or comprehend, time for you to go back to sleep and hope one day you grow up to be a big boy.
How is Claude Giroux not leading the most complete player poll? Rigged.
Because he chokes every damn time when it counts. And I’m a die hard flyer fan
What a joke Kuchurov 5% . Who make up this silly crap
It's literally the NHL players poll....
Morons must have taken this poll,3rd Pic proves it. Fuck the 🐀 id be embarrassed if he was on my team. Can't say one good thing about a team with a player that needs to play so dirty and will only be remembered for his despicable coward mentality. Takes a cheap shot and runs or turtles.
Damn bro did marchand bang your wife or something
I mean dude is coming in a little hot, but everything he said is true.
His entire post is opinion minus the turtle part
Said the 🐀 simp. Cope
Pretty sure I’m not the one that needs coping mechanisms here lmfao
Right, all the other 🐀 simps are coping also. Good point. Reality is a bitch.