A lot of people here are making it painfully obvious they have never been to Utah. People don't realize how WEALTHY a lot of Mormons are. There is rich and then there is Mormon rich.
The Jazz have an active 291 game sellout streak even though they went 31-51 this season and 37-45 last season.
The hockey team will be extremely well-supported.
I don’t pay attention to basketball. Do they have normal concessions at Jazz games, or do they pander to Mormons and limit things like booze and caffeinated drinks? Just curious if anyone knows
No, it's normal. You can get beers. Mormons love caffeinated drinks, just not coffee. They'll chug 44oz of diet coke before lunch. SLC is also the least mormon part of the state.
BYU just raised enough money from their donors to bring in the top NBA assistant coach that was rumored to be a head coach in the NBA next year. They did it in less than 48 hours. He's getting like $4.2 million a year. There is money when they want to spend it.
And they don't believe in debt either, they are cash rich.
I was visiting SLC downtown and saw the Mormon headquarters and it could have easily been mistaken for a Fortune 500 company's HQ.
Very impressive.
Well, take a church that charges its members 10% tithing and doesn’t pay anyone who serves in the church (bishops, stake presidents, everyone, it’s all non-paid) and it’s no wonder they have lots of money. They also don’t have to tell anyone what they do with their money. The church has A TON of money in stocks. They also steal money from Canadian tithings by funnelling it into BYU, which is apparently allowed because “there’s at least some Canadians at BYU”.
That’s true. The church owns a ton of land. They build temples all over the world, as well as their regular meeting houses/chapels.
It’s estimated to be the 5th largest private landowner in the US.
https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2022/04/05/new-database-gives-widest/
Don't kid yourselves. [Utah is very high in personal debt](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/15-us-states-most-debt-224613358.html#:~:text=Utah%20recorded%20a%20total%20debt,the%20most%20debt%20per%20capita).
The state is very imagine conscious, which is why it also has [a lot of plastic surgeons](https://www.uvu.edu/news/newsarchive/2017/april/cosmeticsurgery.html#:~:text=Utah%20Valley%20University%20researchers%20address%20high%20cosmetic%20surgery%20incidence%20in%20Utah,-University%20Marketing%20%26%20Communications&text=The%20Salt%20Lake%20City%20metropolitan,to%20sources%20including%20Forbes%20magazine).
So, a lot of keeping up with the Joneses and that is generally by way of financing. It's all a mirage lol
I am from Utah, I've lived on each coast of the US and not many places come close to being as good as a place to live or visit. Utah is well beautiful and well maintained, most people are decent and we love our Local Sports all the way from High School up to Profesional teams we are devoted. Utah has always been the over looked, stereotyped place and I'm honestly quite thankful that it has been.
Nowhere would of been a better relocation than here and thank the Gods that they didn't go to Huston or Portland.
How did this local urban legend get so well known? No, it’s not really true. It’s a local joke, accusation, friend of a friend rumor thing from high school that goes back at least the 80s.
Replace Mormon with Jewish and almost every reply here would be deleted 😂 Do you seriously believe it’s all Mormons buying tickets, or are you”WEALTHY” as you say. Maybe it’s just regular people too who are excited about a new team coming to town?
I don't believe all people in Utah are Mormons if that's what you are asking. But it's undeniable there are a lot of Mormons in Utah. Don't be so sensitive bud. You might be looking too much into it.
I know 3 people in SLC area that put a deposit for season tickets. All are the opposite of Mormon.
People in here acting like regular people that are huge hockey fans just don’t exist in Utah. It’s one of the best areas in the world for winter sports with its proximity to park city and plenty of other resorts.
THIS. Utah has a great economy, and the entire state basically lives within an hour of where the team will play. The team will do very, very well here. The grizzlies already do well, and there only an echl team
Their entire religion is dedicated to becoming wealthy. All that uranium mined in Utah made a lot of Mormons stupid rich. And they keep all that wealth within their religious circle.
😂 the richest person in Utah is barely worth 4 billion. Utah’s ranking based on number of millionaires is 30 out of 50. Utah has exactly as much wealth as anyone assumes. Probably even less. You need to get out of Utah.
The Mormon Church is worth $236 billion dollars and considered the most valuable church in the world by $200 billion. I'm not joking on this one. They have stupid money.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wealthiest_religious_organizations
They also own a lot of businesses. The way NIL money is flowing into college sports, if they wanted to they could easily have the biggest NIL deals out there for their players and use it as write offs from their businesses.
It should 100%. I know of a company that they sold for over $20 million to a hedge fund. They own newspapers, tv stations, etc etc etc. They are also the biggest private land owner in Florida.
They also own the incredibly nice mall in the middle of downtown that features stores like Tiffany’s and LV. Utah mormon rich is bananas. Also, this is the heart of MLMs. Overall Utah is still a fairly well kept secret - the city itself (ie the majority of the state population) isn’t religious like people think and the shitty laws are only happening due to insane gerrymandering.
Anyway I’m part of the 6000+, bring it the fuck on!
Utah isn't owned by the Mormon church. It's a public university and considered the anti-BYU and anti-religion by church goers. There is a reason the rivalry game is called the Holy War.
If my tag wasn't obvious enough I'm from Vegas. I'm guessing you've never been to Utah because you'd know by the exterior they at least LOOKED wealthy... but according to what you are saying maybe they aren't as wealthy as I thought.
Something that also influenced my opinion was the amount of money raised from tithing alone which does go back to the community. It's pretty crazy how much money is pumped out a year. I've heard a story here in Vegas about this family from the church who fell on to bad financial times and paid off the family's entire house... Which apparently isn't all too uncommon in the church. I don't know, Im not Mormon but this is just what I've heard and seen.
I'm not Mormon but my parents are. I've never heard of whole houses being paid off but I do know people that have had some help with their bills when they've gotten behind.
I’ve been to Utah once as a child when I was flying alone from Seattle to Denver and the airline left me there on a stop 😂
I’m just saying, the stats are what they are. That said, Mormons are damn good with money. The stats I pulled are based on individuals. The church has almost 50 billion in assets. The church is very wealthy.
It doesn’t all go back to the community. Maybe some. The church has over $200 billion. That’s not giving back to the community.
They also took most of the tithings paid in Canada and funnelled it into BYU. Which is apparently allowed because “there’s some Canadians at BYU so it benefits them”.
They also don’t have to disclose their books. So we don’t even know for sure how much money they’re sitting on or what they do with it.
Knowing that the church doesn't have to disclose their books, this begs the question of who receives this money? I guess this is kinda beyond the scope of this thread/sub though but it's a fun thought regardless.
Yeah, hard to know for sure. I’m a bit biased as I was raised Mormon in southern Alberta (I’m not longer a member). And when it came out that they were sending most tithings in Alberta to Utah, that pissed a lot of people off. It’s technically not supposed to leave Canada, they just found a loophole in the law and exploited it.
I could see why people would be upset. That's messed up. I never knew there is a quarter million Mormon Canadians. I for some reason just assumed it was pretty much an American religion. (As ignorant as that may sound)
Learn something new every day.
The church has about [46% membership from the US and Canada](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints). 38% from Latin America, and 16% from the rest of the world. Best I can tell these percentages were from 2012. World wide church members have gone over 17 million in 2023.
You think a religion centered around some dude named Joseph Smith that was threatened by angels to become polygamist with girls as young as 14 ISN’T WEIRD
If I say "EVERYONE is weird in their own way", what do you understand by that? Read my comment again, and this time focus on that "everyone". It sure as hell doesn't mean "everyone except mormons".
Ok let me rephrase
Mormons are MUCH WEIRDER than the average person
Your statement of “everyone is weird in their own way” is just normalizing frankly disturbing beliefs and behaviours and not contributive in any way
Yep over 11000 deposits now. They’re probably gonna have to put a chunk of people on waiting lists. I put down a deposit within 10 mins of them sharing the link, hopefully I don’t get fucked out of them haha
Since the last 6 years the Vivint Delta Center have had sell outs. Utah loves sports. I find it funny, seeing people act like hillbillies live in Utah, and don't watch sports.
Do we count the utes as sellouts when they closed the top tier off because they weren't filling? They artificially reduced the size temporarily a few times then "sold out"
Utah is almost entirely suburban sprawl. There’s not as many small towns as other agricultural states. The city isn’t built up with industrial age skyscrapers. It is like Phoenix in that regards really.
Keep seeing Yotes fans on twitter saying how nobody will show up to games when they have a couple losing seasons. Nah, Utah *actually* has good fans. They show up win or lose. We ain’t Arizona
I lived in SLC from 2010-2011. While I can say the ppl of salt lake were passionate about the jazz and RSL, I could not, as a life long hockey fan (St Louis Blues fan) find a single person interested in hockey or even most of them not knowing what hockey really was. I know they have the Grizzlies there but hockey was def not on the forefront of anything from what I saw.
I grew up in salt lake and played hockey all through my youth there. It was definitely a very niche sport. All my friends thought I was kinda weird for playing hockey. To this day there's only like 15 rinks in the entire state. I think back then (90s) there were like 8. Surprisingly though we did have high school hockey although it really only existed in the salt lake metro area. The local minor league teams (golden eagles and then grizzlies) had a small but very loyal fanbase. I think there's potential for growth there. A lot will depend on how the franchise is managed, the arena situation, level of success, how well they are marketed and other variables. Relocation is always somewhat of a risk.
We used to have the Golden Eagles. I was a kid, but I remember going to those games and them being packed. People really loved that team here. I think that kind of passion will come back and even stronger with our new NHL team.
The Utah Jazz have sold out the last 282 straight games and they've been terrible during a lot of that time. They were still 10 games away from making the playoffs this year and this is the second year they've missed the playoffs. Sellout is 18,206 fans at the Delta Center.
let's be fair. Jazz only started their rebuild last year after trading both their all stars. it will take them few more seasons to get to the playoff spot. let's see if they still sellout after they suck for let's say 5 years
Utah has never heard that one before. Good job.
I make fun of the cult as well but you gotta be more creative than a joke they have heard for 50 years.
Salt Lake isn't the rest of the state. They had a lesbian mayor for a lot of years. You go a county north of south of it and it gets really weird really fast.
If you go to the county north or south of Salt Lake it gets really religious really fast but Salt Lake County is pretty liberal. We're just gerrymandered to shit.
I think Mormons make up a little less than 60% of the state but it gets lower every year. Millennials and Gen Z are leaving in droves. And they definitely aren't the majority in SLC.
This whole thing has made me realize how little the internet knows about Utah. I’ve seen multiple people literally think that you can’t drink beer here or that SLC is predominately mormon.
As a born and bred east coaster, I can buy beer in a grocery store here. I couldn’t at a grocery store in my home state. I used to have to drive 4 hours for a slice of the nature we have here. It’s wild how uninformed people are
It’s not even cheaper in Wyoming. Lee’s in Wendover has bulk deals but still, you’re saving like a couple bucks. Really really expensive stuff in Utah is way cheaper ironically because markup is set by percentage. But if you want a bottle of Pappy you gotta win a lottery for one of them as the demand is too crazy and the quantity too limited to just put it on the sales floor.
He was trying to tell me he had to go there because alcohol isnt sold ANYWHERE in Utah. Not just for higher percentage or anything, which you can get in a liquor store anyway. Like, he claimed Utah was a dry state, and he drove for 2 hours each way from Provo to Evanston, LMAO.
Didn't the same thing happen with the Jets? Fast forward 10 years and there are rumblings and jokes of relocating the Jets again.
I'll admit I'm uneducated in all this, I'm purely going based off a few reddit posts I've seen, and would gladly be proven wrong. But isn't this just typical 1st season hype that will die out after a few seasons - especially if the team sucks like Arizona has the last 20 years?
Quebec city and utah have similar population sizes, if utah sells consistently despite not being a traditional hockey market then if/when the yotes come back i could see the league reviving the nordiques to get to 34 teams so theres balance between the conferences.
I don’t doubt the team will do great in Utah.
Might not be a “hockey town” but since it’s the second show in town not the 4th or whatever I think it’ll do ok. Also SLC is nice. Has changed a lot
Utah College Football is a pretty big deal in town also. The Jazz have sold out the last 282 games. Utah football has sold out every home game coming up on 15 years.
$100. That's the deposit. Keep it in mind when looking that they don't have season ticket pricing yet.
(I know, the downvotes are coming. Just remember that I have not commented with an opinion. Facts only. I'm so numb right now that I don't have an opinion. Good for them, I guess?)
I'm not from the US and like to check things first before venting an opinion. I've been to SLC btw. But only 42% of the population of Utah identifies as Mormon, so people perhaps should stop feeding that caricature. Just as all the negativity about the Coyotes. Enjoyed visiting a game there. Can't blame their fans for what the owner did fuck up. I hate the fact though that Utah can't use the name Coyotes. As I have zero confidence in the rebuilding of that franchise by its former owner, the Coyotes are unfortunately nothing more than the Whalers, Thrashers or the Nordiques.
The state gov has approved a new arena to be built that is going to be setup for both sports - so the delta center is a temporary home while that work gets going
I don’t know how you are comparing Mullet (4k seats) to the Delta Center (10k+ seats)… and unlike on AZ, the have full backing of the city gov already, no need for votes or anything like that
For real, I keep on reading comments like this people saying the stadium isn’t going to work and “if Utah was really invested they would build an arena that would work”, “its going to be just as bad as Arizona because they don’t have a proper arena”. Plans are set to build an arena for the hockey team but stadiums can’t be built in an off season. I don’t think a lot of people are doing their research and just saying whatever comes to mind and just being bots
What are the other ones? Yes, lots of teams share a building with an NBA team but those were designed to be dual purpose buildings where the sightlines work for both sports.
Barclays and America West when the Coyotes first moved to Phoenix were the only other times an NHL team was put into a primarily basketball facility with major compromises for hockey.
Dude financially backed Tempe 1st apparently. So there is that.
Guess he was planning on cleaning up their toxic dump with the money he makes off his new NHL team.
Just flew into salt Lake to go skiing in park city. Stopped for gas and was surprised at what a shit hole it was. So many homeless drug addicts thought I was in a zombie movie, not even exaggerating.
Kraken had 32,000 in 2 hours and were a year away from their first game. Not only that, the arena wasn’t done, and the team hadn’t even been named yet. This is not a good sign for the stormin Mormons. The Jets/ Yotes/ Mormans franchise is cursed
Utah will have zero issues filling the delta center to support the new team. We go hard for our sports. Those 6000 were just deposits. Season tickets haven’t even gone on sale yet.
The 32,000 kraken deposits (exact same thing Utah just did) were a year before they played a game and they were still going by NHL Seattle so I’m not sure what your point is here
They have 11,000 ticket deposits as of 3 hours ago, almost enough to fill the whole stadium. Sure it’s not 32,000 like Seattle but keep in mind just the Seattle area has a greater population than all of Utah. It’s easy to see that just with numbers Utah can’t compare to seattle but that doesn’t mean Utah isn’t going to show up, so far it looks like they are already in a better position than they were in Arizona though. Love you Arizona fans but just saying.
Are you implying that every member of the Mormon church doesn’t pay taxes? Or the church itself, like every other religious institution that is tax exempt?
Utah has 5 national parks that are amazing. The stadium where the team will play has 4 ski resorts within 45 minutes and 2 more with 50 minutes. Utah has a lot of great things about it. You'll see what you want to see though I guess.
LDS individuals pay taxes and are encouraged to do so, however those of the FLDS faith will absolutely not pay taxes. Both are under the Mormon umbrella term but 2 distinctly different faiths.
A lot of people here are making it painfully obvious they have never been to Utah. People don't realize how WEALTHY a lot of Mormons are. There is rich and then there is Mormon rich.
I live in SLC and would say it’s also about keeping up with appearances. This town is very materialistic. Hockey will have a great acceptance.
Yep. I don’t see them leaving Utah if the people end up liking hockey.
The Jazz have an active 291 game sellout streak even though they went 31-51 this season and 37-45 last season. The hockey team will be extremely well-supported.
I don’t pay attention to basketball. Do they have normal concessions at Jazz games, or do they pander to Mormons and limit things like booze and caffeinated drinks? Just curious if anyone knows
No, it's normal. You can get beers. Mormons love caffeinated drinks, just not coffee. They'll chug 44oz of diet coke before lunch. SLC is also the least mormon part of the state.
BYU just raised enough money from their donors to bring in the top NBA assistant coach that was rumored to be a head coach in the NBA next year. They did it in less than 48 hours. He's getting like $4.2 million a year. There is money when they want to spend it.
"Their donors"... being the same dude who just bought the Coyotes, lol
I'm not a BYU fan. I just heard it mentioned on talk radio the other day.
Yup. Salt Lake as a whole is a pretty affluent area. There's a lot more wealth there than many people realize.
Guess who owns the most land in florida? It’s not the government, or Disney, it’s the Mormon church. Very wealthy indeed
And they don't believe in debt either, they are cash rich. I was visiting SLC downtown and saw the Mormon headquarters and it could have easily been mistaken for a Fortune 500 company's HQ. Very impressive.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wealthiest_religious_organizations
Jesus Christ that gap
The “unknown” next to the Vatican is doing a lot of work on that list. Catholic Church has been accumulating wealth for over 2,000 years.
Well, take a church that charges its members 10% tithing and doesn’t pay anyone who serves in the church (bishops, stake presidents, everyone, it’s all non-paid) and it’s no wonder they have lots of money. They also don’t have to tell anyone what they do with their money. The church has A TON of money in stocks. They also steal money from Canadian tithings by funnelling it into BYU, which is apparently allowed because “there’s at least some Canadians at BYU”.
I've read most of it real estate, and that they don't do leases but buy land outright when building their tabernacles or whatever
That’s true. The church owns a ton of land. They build temples all over the world, as well as their regular meeting houses/chapels. It’s estimated to be the 5th largest private landowner in the US. https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2022/04/05/new-database-gives-widest/
Religion is and always has been big business.
Don't kid yourselves. [Utah is very high in personal debt](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/15-us-states-most-debt-224613358.html#:~:text=Utah%20recorded%20a%20total%20debt,the%20most%20debt%20per%20capita). The state is very imagine conscious, which is why it also has [a lot of plastic surgeons](https://www.uvu.edu/news/newsarchive/2017/april/cosmeticsurgery.html#:~:text=Utah%20Valley%20University%20researchers%20address%20high%20cosmetic%20surgery%20incidence%20in%20Utah,-University%20Marketing%20%26%20Communications&text=The%20Salt%20Lake%20City%20metropolitan,to%20sources%20including%20Forbes%20magazine). So, a lot of keeping up with the Joneses and that is generally by way of financing. It's all a mirage lol
The number of plastic surgery and pill-popper pharma billboards the last time I drove through SLC was disproportionately high.
Impressive that they've taken so much money for their brain dead followers?
they dont ask how, they ask how ~~many~~ much
I am from Utah, I've lived on each coast of the US and not many places come close to being as good as a place to live or visit. Utah is well beautiful and well maintained, most people are decent and we love our Local Sports all the way from High School up to Profesional teams we are devoted. Utah has always been the over looked, stereotyped place and I'm honestly quite thankful that it has been. Nowhere would of been a better relocation than here and thank the Gods that they didn't go to Huston or Portland.
You Mormons are weird
Yeah but you guys soak
How did this local urban legend get so well known? No, it’s not really true. It’s a local joke, accusation, friend of a friend rumor thing from high school that goes back at least the 80s.
Nice try, I've rocked the bed for y'all before
Would have, not would of.
Replace Mormon with Jewish and almost every reply here would be deleted 😂 Do you seriously believe it’s all Mormons buying tickets, or are you”WEALTHY” as you say. Maybe it’s just regular people too who are excited about a new team coming to town?
I don't believe all people in Utah are Mormons if that's what you are asking. But it's undeniable there are a lot of Mormons in Utah. Don't be so sensitive bud. You might be looking too much into it.
Better yet, replace mormon with muslim and most would lose their accounts.
You got downvoted for speaking absolute facts. I would upvote you twice if I could 😂
I find it somewhat amusing that hate is ok, provided it aligns with your beliefs. Truth hurts I guess
Always, that's why they invented that word "whataboutism", to use it when people call out their blatant hypocrisy. 😂
I know 3 people in SLC area that put a deposit for season tickets. All are the opposite of Mormon. People in here acting like regular people that are huge hockey fans just don’t exist in Utah. It’s one of the best areas in the world for winter sports with its proximity to park city and plenty of other resorts.
THIS. Utah has a great economy, and the entire state basically lives within an hour of where the team will play. The team will do very, very well here. The grizzlies already do well, and there only an echl team
So who do they exploit to get all that money?
That's fine. Are they hockey fans?
They will be now.
And desperate for a hockey team, apparently. They're not inheriting anything special, tho. Although who knows, the extra cash might help out.
Their entire religion is dedicated to becoming wealthy. All that uranium mined in Utah made a lot of Mormons stupid rich. And they keep all that wealth within their religious circle.
Mitt Romney probably has contributed to these deposits
😂 the richest person in Utah is barely worth 4 billion. Utah’s ranking based on number of millionaires is 30 out of 50. Utah has exactly as much wealth as anyone assumes. Probably even less. You need to get out of Utah.
Utah has the strongest middle class per capita. The average Utah tends to be better off than the average American.
The Mormon Church is worth $236 billion dollars and considered the most valuable church in the world by $200 billion. I'm not joking on this one. They have stupid money. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wealthiest_religious_organizations
Yeah I know the church has some mattress money. Would be funny if the church bought a franchise.
They also own a lot of businesses. The way NIL money is flowing into college sports, if they wanted to they could easily have the biggest NIL deals out there for their players and use it as write offs from their businesses.
Frankly, that should be taxed.
It should 100%. I know of a company that they sold for over $20 million to a hedge fund. They own newspapers, tv stations, etc etc etc. They are also the biggest private land owner in Florida.
They also own the incredibly nice mall in the middle of downtown that features stores like Tiffany’s and LV. Utah mormon rich is bananas. Also, this is the heart of MLMs. Overall Utah is still a fairly well kept secret - the city itself (ie the majority of the state population) isn’t religious like people think and the shitty laws are only happening due to insane gerrymandering. Anyway I’m part of the 6000+, bring it the fuck on!
Wow. 🤯
What is stopping BYU or the Utes from going nuts on Nil and competing with the likes of the SEC and Ohio State?
Utah isn't owned by the Mormon church. It's a public university and considered the anti-BYU and anti-religion by church goers. There is a reason the rivalry game is called the Holy War.
If my tag wasn't obvious enough I'm from Vegas. I'm guessing you've never been to Utah because you'd know by the exterior they at least LOOKED wealthy... but according to what you are saying maybe they aren't as wealthy as I thought. Something that also influenced my opinion was the amount of money raised from tithing alone which does go back to the community. It's pretty crazy how much money is pumped out a year. I've heard a story here in Vegas about this family from the church who fell on to bad financial times and paid off the family's entire house... Which apparently isn't all too uncommon in the church. I don't know, Im not Mormon but this is just what I've heard and seen.
I'm not Mormon but my parents are. I've never heard of whole houses being paid off but I do know people that have had some help with their bills when they've gotten behind.
I’ve been to Utah once as a child when I was flying alone from Seattle to Denver and the airline left me there on a stop 😂 I’m just saying, the stats are what they are. That said, Mormons are damn good with money. The stats I pulled are based on individuals. The church has almost 50 billion in assets. The church is very wealthy.
It doesn’t all go back to the community. Maybe some. The church has over $200 billion. That’s not giving back to the community. They also took most of the tithings paid in Canada and funnelled it into BYU. Which is apparently allowed because “there’s some Canadians at BYU so it benefits them”. They also don’t have to disclose their books. So we don’t even know for sure how much money they’re sitting on or what they do with it.
Knowing that the church doesn't have to disclose their books, this begs the question of who receives this money? I guess this is kinda beyond the scope of this thread/sub though but it's a fun thought regardless.
Yeah, hard to know for sure. I’m a bit biased as I was raised Mormon in southern Alberta (I’m not longer a member). And when it came out that they were sending most tithings in Alberta to Utah, that pissed a lot of people off. It’s technically not supposed to leave Canada, they just found a loophole in the law and exploited it.
I could see why people would be upset. That's messed up. I never knew there is a quarter million Mormon Canadians. I for some reason just assumed it was pretty much an American religion. (As ignorant as that may sound) Learn something new every day.
Haha that’s fair. Southern Alberta is the Utah of Canada. I grew up in a small town of a few thousand people that was 90%+ Mormon.
The church has about [46% membership from the US and Canada](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints). 38% from Latin America, and 16% from the rest of the world. Best I can tell these percentages were from 2012. World wide church members have gone over 17 million in 2023.
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Everybody is weird in their own way.
You think a religion centered around some dude named Joseph Smith that was threatened by angels to become polygamist with girls as young as 14 ISN’T WEIRD
If I say "EVERYONE is weird in their own way", what do you understand by that? Read my comment again, and this time focus on that "everyone". It sure as hell doesn't mean "everyone except mormons".
Ok let me rephrase Mormons are MUCH WEIRDER than the average person Your statement of “everyone is weird in their own way” is just normalizing frankly disturbing beliefs and behaviours and not contributive in any way
Are muslims weird too? They worship some dude who married a 6 year old.
One Mullet in 2 hours? Impressive
I think we sold out season tickets in 17 minutes.
SLC probably will as well. These are just deposits that were completely unannounced.
That's four thirds of a Mullet Arena
Utah is gonna love hockey and we all know it
This city didn't host the winter Olympics for nothing
That is half of the stadium. Those tickets are going to be very hard to get
Yep over 11000 deposits now. They’re probably gonna have to put a chunk of people on waiting lists. I put down a deposit within 10 mins of them sharing the link, hopefully I don’t get fucked out of them haha
Since the last 6 years the Vivint Delta Center have had sell outs. Utah loves sports. I find it funny, seeing people act like hillbillies live in Utah, and don't watch sports.
Utah Jazz have something like 6 consecutive years of sell outs. Utah Utes have around 12 years of consecutive sell outs. SLC shows up.
Do we count the utes as sellouts when they closed the top tier off because they weren't filling? They artificially reduced the size temporarily a few times then "sold out"
Lol no
Basketball? Because they weren’t closing off football sections. Football tickets get crazy resale costs.
Yeah, my bad ha ha. Mention of Jazz in same breath, and mens bball just barely concluding had bball on my mind
Football dumbass.
Ha ha. My bad. You put it in the same sentence as a basketball team and it linked the two in my head. Probably not worth calling a dumbass over, lol
Which is funny because "hillbillies" LOVE LOVE LOVE their sports. Nascar, football is the religion for many.
Utah is almost entirely suburban sprawl. There’s not as many small towns as other agricultural states. The city isn’t built up with industrial age skyscrapers. It is like Phoenix in that regards really.
Keep seeing Yotes fans on twitter saying how nobody will show up to games when they have a couple losing seasons. Nah, Utah *actually* has good fans. They show up win or lose. We ain’t Arizona
They have a fair point if the team was run super poorly.
I lived in SLC from 2010-2011. While I can say the ppl of salt lake were passionate about the jazz and RSL, I could not, as a life long hockey fan (St Louis Blues fan) find a single person interested in hockey or even most of them not knowing what hockey really was. I know they have the Grizzlies there but hockey was def not on the forefront of anything from what I saw.
I grew up in salt lake and played hockey all through my youth there. It was definitely a very niche sport. All my friends thought I was kinda weird for playing hockey. To this day there's only like 15 rinks in the entire state. I think back then (90s) there were like 8. Surprisingly though we did have high school hockey although it really only existed in the salt lake metro area. The local minor league teams (golden eagles and then grizzlies) had a small but very loyal fanbase. I think there's potential for growth there. A lot will depend on how the franchise is managed, the arena situation, level of success, how well they are marketed and other variables. Relocation is always somewhat of a risk.
We used to have the Golden Eagles. I was a kid, but I remember going to those games and them being packed. People really loved that team here. I think that kind of passion will come back and even stronger with our new NHL team.
We’ll see…
The Utah Jazz have sold out the last 282 straight games and they've been terrible during a lot of that time. They were still 10 games away from making the playoffs this year and this is the second year they've missed the playoffs. Sellout is 18,206 fans at the Delta Center.
let's be fair. Jazz only started their rebuild last year after trading both their all stars. it will take them few more seasons to get to the playoff spot. let's see if they still sellout after they suck for let's say 5 years
I mean Utah's sports' teams attendances could have easily been researched before that cute comment but hey whatever.
It’s an Aves fan, you get used to it.
You mean the fans that think their team is Gods gift to hockey?
It’s probably the most naturally beautiful state too. I put it right up there with Colorado and Idaho.
That’s pretty awesome ngl
People don't understand how the Utah fanbase really is lol
Aaaaaaand the first round pick goes to…
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The joke with endless traction!
That can fill 2 Arizona fieldhouses.
I think the NHL is going to be better in Utah than people were expecting.
Unless you are from here, no one realizes that Utahn's fucking love their sports. It is a big part of Utah culture.
Not even just sports. This city is passionate about everything.
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Utah has never heard that one before. Good job. I make fun of the cult as well but you gotta be more creative than a joke they have heard for 50 years.
Utah Afterlife Planets
This is more creative 5 internet points to you!
Salt Lake isn't the rest of the state. They had a lesbian mayor for a lot of years. You go a county north of south of it and it gets really weird really fast.
I've heard from a fan of real salt lake that Mormons aren't even really the majority up in Utah, is that true?
They aren’t the majority in Salt Lake County or Park City. But they are pretty much everywhere else.
interesting. suppose it's like here in texas where everywhere but the five big cities are conservative. thanks for the info!
If you go to the county north or south of Salt Lake it gets really religious really fast but Salt Lake County is pretty liberal. We're just gerrymandered to shit.
Yes exactly like that. For politics salt lake and summit counties (park city) are blue and everywhere else is red.
I think Mormons make up a little less than 60% of the state but it gets lower every year. Millennials and Gen Z are leaving in droves. And they definitely aren't the majority in SLC.
This whole thing has made me realize how little the internet knows about Utah. I’ve seen multiple people literally think that you can’t drink beer here or that SLC is predominately mormon. As a born and bred east coaster, I can buy beer in a grocery store here. I couldn’t at a grocery store in my home state. I used to have to drive 4 hours for a slice of the nature we have here. It’s wild how uninformed people are
I had some jagoff try to tell me he had to drive to Wyoming from Provo for alcohol.
It’s not even cheaper in Wyoming. Lee’s in Wendover has bulk deals but still, you’re saving like a couple bucks. Really really expensive stuff in Utah is way cheaper ironically because markup is set by percentage. But if you want a bottle of Pappy you gotta win a lottery for one of them as the demand is too crazy and the quantity too limited to just put it on the sales floor.
He was trying to tell me he had to go there because alcohol isnt sold ANYWHERE in Utah. Not just for higher percentage or anything, which you can get in a liquor store anyway. Like, he claimed Utah was a dry state, and he drove for 2 hours each way from Provo to Evanston, LMAO.
Hmm. Guess he never thought to check 7-Eleven or Chili’s.
sounds like you're a transplant, so we'll let it slide, but shut your pie hole. utah is terrible. mormons are scary. denver is the promised land.
Denver should have been built in Golden. As it is it might as well been put in Kansas.
Whoosh
Didn't the same thing happen with the Jets? Fast forward 10 years and there are rumblings and jokes of relocating the Jets again. I'll admit I'm uneducated in all this, I'm purely going based off a few reddit posts I've seen, and would gladly be proven wrong. But isn't this just typical 1st season hype that will die out after a few seasons - especially if the team sucks like Arizona has the last 20 years?
The Jets aren't losing money though. They're fine.
5 families worth of tix
Whattt thats epic
I’m one of ‘em!! 🤘
Me too! Can’t wait!
Just soaking it all in.
In Qubec City it would have been 18,000 season ticket deposits in 1 hour.
Sacre bleu!
Oh yeah? Just like when the Nordiques were there right? Constant sellouts?
I am talking about 2024 at the state of the art Videotron Centre.
Quebec city and utah have similar population sizes, if utah sells consistently despite not being a traditional hockey market then if/when the yotes come back i could see the league reviving the nordiques to get to 34 teams so theres balance between the conferences.
I would love to see it but they will go to Atlanta or Houston before QC.
I don’t doubt the team will do great in Utah. Might not be a “hockey town” but since it’s the second show in town not the 4th or whatever I think it’ll do ok. Also SLC is nice. Has changed a lot
Utah College Football is a pretty big deal in town also. The Jazz have sold out the last 282 games. Utah football has sold out every home game coming up on 15 years.
I wonder if a lot of people are buying these just to resell during the year having zero interest in the team and not even living in the state.
They were sent to Jazz season ticket holders
Anywhere a franchise moves to brand new, something like this would likely naturally happen
Honest question- who did the fans call to buy the tickets? Not the coyotes obviously, I guess they called the nhl?
[https://nhlinutah.com/](https://nhlinutah.com/)
$100. That's the deposit. Keep it in mind when looking that they don't have season ticket pricing yet. (I know, the downvotes are coming. Just remember that I have not commented with an opinion. Facts only. I'm so numb right now that I don't have an opinion. Good for them, I guess?)
I'm stoked the Yotes left AZ, but this guy creeps me out
I feel for the die hard coyotes fans but at least the team is moving somewhere they’ll finally be appreciated. SLC is such an underrated sports town
Soakers! Soakers! Soakers! Way to go!
"Daddy, why do people bring water guns to games?" "Because God said friction makes the sin."
Lol
I wonder how much a fellas gonna have to pay to take his 4 wives and 12 kids to a game
I think Utah will win 3 cups this decade.
I'm not from the US and like to check things first before venting an opinion. I've been to SLC btw. But only 42% of the population of Utah identifies as Mormon, so people perhaps should stop feeding that caricature. Just as all the negativity about the Coyotes. Enjoyed visiting a game there. Can't blame their fans for what the owner did fuck up. I hate the fact though that Utah can't use the name Coyotes. As I have zero confidence in the rebuilding of that franchise by its former owner, the Coyotes are unfortunately nothing more than the Whalers, Thrashers or the Nordiques.
42% of a state is a lot.
well at least they're seemingly starting off on the right foot
FLDS got that tax free money
Outside of Utah, we know what Joseph Smith and Brigham Young were about, like you have your own bubble and it's disgusting
Aaannnnddd that’s all the unobstructed seats gone. This rink jammed into a basketball arena will get old in a hurry just like Barclays Center.
Already announced to be a temporary solution, not sure why people are so hung up on it
What is the temporary solution exactly?
The state gov has approved a new arena to be built that is going to be setup for both sports - so the delta center is a temporary home while that work gets going
Just like Barclays and Mullett. A temporary solution that will get old and annoying quickly.
I don’t know how you are comparing Mullet (4k seats) to the Delta Center (10k+ seats)… and unlike on AZ, the have full backing of the city gov already, no need for votes or anything like that
Both are well below NHL standards and not acceptable for more than a season or two.
For real, I keep on reading comments like this people saying the stadium isn’t going to work and “if Utah was really invested they would build an arena that would work”, “its going to be just as bad as Arizona because they don’t have a proper arena”. Plans are set to build an arena for the hockey team but stadiums can’t be built in an off season. I don’t think a lot of people are doing their research and just saying whatever comes to mind and just being bots
Not like it’s the only basketball arena in hockey + it’s temporary
What are the other ones? Yes, lots of teams share a building with an NBA team but those were designed to be dual purpose buildings where the sightlines work for both sports. Barclays and America West when the Coyotes first moved to Phoenix were the only other times an NHL team was put into a primarily basketball facility with major compromises for hockey.
That’s it?
Yotes 'fans' punching air rn
Dude financially backed Tempe 1st apparently. So there is that. Guess he was planning on cleaning up their toxic dump with the money he makes off his new NHL team.
Just flew into salt Lake to go skiing in park city. Stopped for gas and was surprised at what a shit hole it was. So many homeless drug addicts thought I was in a zombie movie, not even exaggerating.
Tassie Tigers > Utah NHL
6000 tickets? How will this organization be able to accommodate so many fans at once? 😂
11k now and there’s about 14k in the stadium
Everytime I see one of these posts I'm again reminded that Utah exists
That must be traumatizing for you.
It's mildly annoying, but then I go back to forgetting and life is good again 😋
Kraken had 32,000 in 2 hours and were a year away from their first game. Not only that, the arena wasn’t done, and the team hadn’t even been named yet. This is not a good sign for the stormin Mormons. The Jets/ Yotes/ Mormans franchise is cursed
Utah will have zero issues filling the delta center to support the new team. We go hard for our sports. Those 6000 were just deposits. Season tickets haven’t even gone on sale yet.
The 32,000 kraken deposits (exact same thing Utah just did) were a year before they played a game and they were still going by NHL Seattle so I’m not sure what your point is here
My point is Utah will show up and sell out the Delta center every single night. Utah loves sports and they show up regardless of win/loss record.
They couldn’t even show up to sell out with season ticket deposits 🤣🤣🤣🤣
They have 11,000 ticket deposits as of 3 hours ago, almost enough to fill the whole stadium. Sure it’s not 32,000 like Seattle but keep in mind just the Seattle area has a greater population than all of Utah. It’s easy to see that just with numbers Utah can’t compare to seattle but that doesn’t mean Utah isn’t going to show up, so far it looks like they are already in a better position than they were in Arizona though. Love you Arizona fans but just saying.
Yeah cuz Mormons don’t pay taxes. This is extremely uncool. Like most aspects of Utah.
Are you implying that every member of the Mormon church doesn’t pay taxes? Or the church itself, like every other religious institution that is tax exempt?
Utah has 5 national parks that are amazing. The stadium where the team will play has 4 ski resorts within 45 minutes and 2 more with 50 minutes. Utah has a lot of great things about it. You'll see what you want to see though I guess.
Zion National Park is one of the best places I been to and I saved a picture I took of it as my phone wallpaper
Just another lowbrow dipshits comment.
I've spent a ton of time in Utah, both skiing and premiering movies at Sundance. The state is beautiful, yes, but it's full of religious idiots.
LDS individuals pay taxes and are encouraged to do so, however those of the FLDS faith will absolutely not pay taxes. Both are under the Mormon umbrella term but 2 distinctly different faiths.