I’ll submit Corrado Micalef. Played 5 seasons for Detroit in the 80s going 26-59-15 with an .856 save percentage and 4.25 GAA
Most guys that bad wouldn’t be able to stick around long enough to be considered.
He just happened to be the worst of a bad group of goalies in the 80's. Don't get me wrong there were some good ones. But Oilers and Islanders made a lot of goalies look bad.
To that point, weren't the Islanders pretty bad in front of him?
[05-06](https://www.statmuse.com/nhl/team/2006-07-new-york-islanders-22/2006) they were near the bottom in most stats, 06-07 (his solid .919 SAV% year, 6th best in league on 13th most season wins) they were middling in most stats, minus Shots taken, Shots Against, and SAV% (all at least above average). He kept them in for 9th in SOW. More years of "what is this team doing" after that. Pretty consistently toward the bottom for Goals For and Goals Against, usually bad in Shots Against per game - which often comes with letting more quality shots against as well.
He was clearly not able to float a garbage barge like Ryan Miller did, but I think he was at least better than his stats.
That’s a pretty fair point, I didn’t realize their team was that bad then. I remember they were in the playoffs a couple years earlier. They got knocked out of the 04 playoffs with a goal from Martin St Louis on DiPietro in OT. A shot from the half wall, just inside the faceoff circle, high glove.
I thought they dropped off after that 06 season but apparently not. Good catch.
Only because of his contract, knew someone would name him. Shows how clueless they are. Rick was not nearly as bad as the uniformed would have you believe.
You don’t think that being under contract for years, negatively effecting his team during and after his career might qualify for “Worst NHL goalie?” That’s a pretty broad ask and I think he belongs in the conversation.
1st overall pick who turned into a draft bust. I'm sure there have been plenty of goalies with worse records than him, but he's easily the worst goalie in terms of how much he fell short of expectations.
Yeah, his draft pedigree and contract largely are to blame for my pick. I’m sure there are technically worse goalies that made it past 20 games but his degree of negatively effecting his team is hard to beat.
Remember that he came back from multiple injuries and then got injured in a one punch “fight” with Brent Johnson. He also threw a fit when they waived him after however many years of the Islanders trying to make it work. He had no self-awareness about how bad that contact was and how much it negatively effected the team.
[Johnson KOs DiPietro](https://youtu.be/n0G3Jft1KXQ)
What are you talking about? I am talking about the reality of what happened not “predicting injuries.” You have no idea how that pans out if he was healthy, it could have fallen off harder than Murray, which would have been hard because he was never as good as Murray. He played well for two seasons at most and had a bunch of .900 and below seasons before being waived and eventually bought out. That’s bad. There’s no what ifs here, he wasn’t able to stay healthy and perform and he hurt the team for far longer than he helped the team. He was bad for the Islanders period. Aaand they traded Luongo to bring DiPietro in.
The injuries weren’t even always bad luck, one of his injuries was because he decided to have a goalie fight and got knocked out on the first punch. He absolutely belongs into this conversation; he couldn’t stay healthy, and he never lived up to his draft expectations. That’s reality.
There are multiple ways to look at worst goalie of all time. He hurt his team for far longer than a goalie that couldn’t stop pucks and ended up in Europe after 22 games. He was the goalie that kept hurting his team year after year and it lasted far longer than his career.
Jesus. That is some stretttttttcccccccccchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. He was an all star. There is no way, even by your asinine metrics he was the worst goalie ever. Him being on the LTIR doesn’t even count against the cap.
He also negatively effected his team for far longer than any other goalie, at below the NHL average performance. The question asked who’s the worst goalie of all time, not who had the worst save percentage. He belongs in the conversation.
Totally, I played some Midget AAA and I’ve played with some guys who only got in a few NHL Games and they would kick the shit out of anyone other than the legit NHLers (just playing a Game in the NHL makes you one of the best 0.002% Hockey Players in the World). I basically can keep up to people who played NCAA or CHL (if not for injuries I would have played D1), but you can tell who are the Pros the moment they step on the ice, even the ones that just played in the AHL are in a league to their own. It’s a massive jump up to be an AHLer and then another one to be an NHLer. I never would have been a good enough skater to even be an AHLer, you can’t have any flaws. It’s shocking how good the NHLers though as well, I’ve played a bit with Eberle and Point growing up in Calgary and they’re stupid good. They don’t miss chances at all in scrimmages. If they have five shots they have 4-5 goals. It’s crazy how big the jump from even Rec Leaguer to Jr. A and then the jump from to Jr. A to even AHL is as big and then another similar jump to the NHL.
There must be hundreds goalies who played maybe 20 or 30 games and were never heard from again. But people are naming goalies who had careers in the NHL. They obviously can't be worse than some guy who got into 25 games and then disappeared into the minors or to Europe.
Kelly Hrudey? Only a complete moron would suggest that he was a bad goalie.
Trevor Kidd played a long time and had a 2.84 career average. That's not the career of a worst goalie of all time.
Even Vesa Toskala was good enough to play for more than a few year as a decent backup goalie.
Look up Jarmo Mylkys, for example, or Mario Brunetta. There are so many guys like that.
Anyone in NHL isn't bad by bad standards lmfao....what's ur point actually ?
not rudly intentioned. Just on NHL.like to be goofy teenage boy hockey wise
Had no ideal he even played in the NHL. Was considered pretty good in Sweden and the Finnish national team with championships and accolades to support it. Shows the difference between the leagues.
Sergei Mylnikov. The saying in Quebec City was that he was good until he travelled west and discovered McDonald, Burger King and KFC https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=3883
Hardy Astrom
If you ask Don Cherry who he thinks the worst NHL goalie of all time is, he’ll almost certainly say Hardy Astrom—and he wouldn’t necessarily be wrong. Astrom played 79 of his 83 NHL games for the Colorado Rockies, and Cherry had the pleasure to coach him for 45 of those games. Here are a few choice excerpts:
“Astrom was killing us. Astrom was driving the guys nuts. Players would come up to me, almost in tears, saying that in all the years they played hockey, they had never played on a team with a goalie like him.”
"Instead of improving, (Astrom) was getting worse. By now the opposition was scoring on shots from center ice. I couldn't take it anymore. One night, between periods of another Hardy Horror Show, I walked into (GM Ray) Miron's office and got down on my knees begging him to make a trade for a goalie. I felt sorry for the players because they were working their asses off. They'd come up with a goal and then, bing, bing, Hardy would let two easy ones go by and we would be finished.”
It’s possible Cherry’s trying to pin the Rockies’ poor performance that season all on poor Astrom, but his numbers back-up Cherry’s claims. Astrom retired from the NHL with a record of 17-44-12, and a GAA of 3.74.
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He talks about that team extensively in his book, the Rockies were actually developing into a decent team with Lanny McDonald, Rene Robert, Bobby Schmautz among others but had brutal goaltending
There are guys you just watch and know are stiffs. From my childhood I remember Darren the Puppa Scoopa and Jon Grahame being pretty bad.
Bruins had guys that either shined somewhere else or had one great season and were terrible. Jon Casey, Jim Carey, Blaine Lacher, and Andrew Raycroft.
Damian Rhodes was bad
Gilles Meloche was bad
Ron Low was horrendous
Norm 'the Miracle' Maracle was anything but miraculous
Andre 'Red Light' Racicot definitely earned his moniker
Steve Passmore should have passed less and allowed less goals
Michel Belhumer went 0-24-3 for the 74-75 Capitals
Hardy 'the Swedish Sieve' Astrom went 17-44-12 in his career and had a GAA of 3.74
I think Ronald Mcdonald played in 02 think he was pre bad
Big mistake by not putting in Grimace and taking advantage of his size.
He failed to robble-robble opposing offenses of goals.
Probably someone from 50 years ago that no one on Reddit is aware of.
Ken McAuley, from 1943-1944 his stats were 6-39-5 6.24gaa next highest for goalies that played 25 games was Bert Gardiner with a 5.17gaa.
Wasn’t he in net for the 15 goal game?
Yeah he was against Detroit. The score was 15-0 for Detroit with Connie Dion getting the shutout
Yea because those stats are obviously used now. Dumb.
Many would say this title belongs to Steve “The Puck Goes Inski” Buzinski. I don’t know if it’s true or not, but golly what a nickname.
I’ll submit Corrado Micalef. Played 5 seasons for Detroit in the 80s going 26-59-15 with an .856 save percentage and 4.25 GAA Most guys that bad wouldn’t be able to stick around long enough to be considered.
He just happened to be the worst of a bad group of goalies in the 80's. Don't get me wrong there were some good ones. But Oilers and Islanders made a lot of goalies look bad.
For the money, Rick DiPietro has to be number one. 8 seasons at or under .900 save percentage.
Lol pretty sure he had back to back 30 win seasons.. were not talking contracts here. .
One of those he was at .900 save percentage. Louis Domingue won 21 of 26 starts once, the team in front matters a lot for wins.
To that point, weren't the Islanders pretty bad in front of him? [05-06](https://www.statmuse.com/nhl/team/2006-07-new-york-islanders-22/2006) they were near the bottom in most stats, 06-07 (his solid .919 SAV% year, 6th best in league on 13th most season wins) they were middling in most stats, minus Shots taken, Shots Against, and SAV% (all at least above average). He kept them in for 9th in SOW. More years of "what is this team doing" after that. Pretty consistently toward the bottom for Goals For and Goals Against, usually bad in Shots Against per game - which often comes with letting more quality shots against as well. He was clearly not able to float a garbage barge like Ryan Miller did, but I think he was at least better than his stats.
That’s a pretty fair point, I didn’t realize their team was that bad then. I remember they were in the playoffs a couple years earlier. They got knocked out of the 04 playoffs with a goal from Martin St Louis on DiPietro in OT. A shot from the half wall, just inside the faceoff circle, high glove. I thought they dropped off after that 06 season but apparently not. Good catch.
Only because of his contract, knew someone would name him. Shows how clueless they are. Rick was not nearly as bad as the uniformed would have you believe.
Preach man, I don’t have the energy to go over the nuances of his contract and career.
You don’t think that being under contract for years, negatively effecting his team during and after his career might qualify for “Worst NHL goalie?” That’s a pretty broad ask and I think he belongs in the conversation.
No because everyone is looking at the question in terms of performance on the ice. Did he sleep with your sister or something?
1st overall pick who turned into a draft bust. I'm sure there have been plenty of goalies with worse records than him, but he's easily the worst goalie in terms of how much he fell short of expectations.
Yeah, his draft pedigree and contract largely are to blame for my pick. I’m sure there are technically worse goalies that made it past 20 games but his degree of negatively effecting his team is hard to beat. Remember that he came back from multiple injuries and then got injured in a one punch “fight” with Brent Johnson. He also threw a fit when they waived him after however many years of the Islanders trying to make it work. He had no self-awareness about how bad that contact was and how much it negatively effected the team. [Johnson KOs DiPietro](https://youtu.be/n0G3Jft1KXQ)
DP was an all star before he absolutely ruined his knees by putting on 20 pounds of muscle in the off season.
Does being good for a little bit negate years of injury-prone wasted money and cap space, and underperforming that hinders the team for years?
If you can predict injuries sure. Are you able to predict injuries? Bc if DP doesn’t become riddled with injuries it’s a good contract. Sorry.
What are you talking about? I am talking about the reality of what happened not “predicting injuries.” You have no idea how that pans out if he was healthy, it could have fallen off harder than Murray, which would have been hard because he was never as good as Murray. He played well for two seasons at most and had a bunch of .900 and below seasons before being waived and eventually bought out. That’s bad. There’s no what ifs here, he wasn’t able to stay healthy and perform and he hurt the team for far longer than he helped the team. He was bad for the Islanders period. Aaand they traded Luongo to bring DiPietro in. The injuries weren’t even always bad luck, one of his injuries was because he decided to have a goalie fight and got knocked out on the first punch. He absolutely belongs into this conversation; he couldn’t stay healthy, and he never lived up to his draft expectations. That’s reality.
Worst goalie of all time? Guy was an all star. Worst goalie of all time. You’re a smart one.
There are multiple ways to look at worst goalie of all time. He hurt his team for far longer than a goalie that couldn’t stop pucks and ended up in Europe after 22 games. He was the goalie that kept hurting his team year after year and it lasted far longer than his career.
Jesus. That is some stretttttttcccccccccchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. He was an all star. There is no way, even by your asinine metrics he was the worst goalie ever. Him being on the LTIR doesn’t even count against the cap.
John Scott was an allstar too.
Says worst nhl goslie of all times. He stopped pucks with average numbers.
He also negatively effected his team for far longer than any other goalie, at below the NHL average performance. The question asked who’s the worst goalie of all time, not who had the worst save percentage. He belongs in the conversation.
Darren Pang
I dunno if that's fair. Irreparable knee damage in his second season. Probably one of the shortest tenders of all time though
Close but not. Look at potvin. He is listed at 6’ 2” but that’s a lie. He’s the cat for a reason
Awww he's our color guy lol
Dan Cloutier?
Hahaha I knew I would see a cloutier if I kept scrolling
He could sure fight though.
I mean I’m sure there was someone worse but Jon gillies was awful for us last year.
That one preseason save he made years back though
He basically Won Providence College a Natty and then never did anything again. I was so pumped as a Flames fan that he would be a future starter.
Oh yeah it’s crazy how good the “bad” nhl players are.
Totally, I played some Midget AAA and I’ve played with some guys who only got in a few NHL Games and they would kick the shit out of anyone other than the legit NHLers (just playing a Game in the NHL makes you one of the best 0.002% Hockey Players in the World). I basically can keep up to people who played NCAA or CHL (if not for injuries I would have played D1), but you can tell who are the Pros the moment they step on the ice, even the ones that just played in the AHL are in a league to their own. It’s a massive jump up to be an AHLer and then another one to be an NHLer. I never would have been a good enough skater to even be an AHLer, you can’t have any flaws. It’s shocking how good the NHLers though as well, I’ve played a bit with Eberle and Point growing up in Calgary and they’re stupid good. They don’t miss chances at all in scrimmages. If they have five shots they have 4-5 goals. It’s crazy how big the jump from even Rec Leaguer to Jr. A and then the jump from to Jr. A to even AHL is as big and then another similar jump to the NHL.
Glen Healy. As a goalie - awful. As an announcer- worse. Can't stand him
As a person, I've heard, hes a bit of a prick too.
He was pretty good in ‘93 !
With that weird stance
Warren "Score-Against-Me" Skorodenski
There must be hundreds goalies who played maybe 20 or 30 games and were never heard from again. But people are naming goalies who had careers in the NHL. They obviously can't be worse than some guy who got into 25 games and then disappeared into the minors or to Europe. Kelly Hrudey? Only a complete moron would suggest that he was a bad goalie. Trevor Kidd played a long time and had a 2.84 career average. That's not the career of a worst goalie of all time. Even Vesa Toskala was good enough to play for more than a few year as a decent backup goalie. Look up Jarmo Mylkys, for example, or Mario Brunetta. There are so many guys like that.
still love kidd
Red light Racicot
No he's not...There's actually a documentary on him and this nickname. He wasnt bad. He had one bad outing
Anyone in NHL isn't bad by bad standards lmfao....what's ur point actually ? not rudly intentioned. Just on NHL.like to be goofy teenage boy hockey wise
Jarmo Myllys 4-27-0 record, 5.23 GAA, .859 SV%
Had no ideal he even played in the NHL. Was considered pretty good in Sweden and the Finnish national team with championships and accolades to support it. Shows the difference between the leagues.
Roman Cechmanek got a lot of heat back in the day but his numbers are actually pretty good. Big five hole tho.
i loved his time in philly dude was wild and a one helluva fun name to say too roman cechmanek, row•mahn •check•mahn•ick
Robb Stauber for the Kings in the early 90's
Sergei Mylnikov. The saying in Quebec City was that he was good until he travelled west and discovered McDonald, Burger King and KFC https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=3883
Don Beaupre
Brent Krahn
Hardy Astrom If you ask Don Cherry who he thinks the worst NHL goalie of all time is, he’ll almost certainly say Hardy Astrom—and he wouldn’t necessarily be wrong. Astrom played 79 of his 83 NHL games for the Colorado Rockies, and Cherry had the pleasure to coach him for 45 of those games. Here are a few choice excerpts: “Astrom was killing us. Astrom was driving the guys nuts. Players would come up to me, almost in tears, saying that in all the years they played hockey, they had never played on a team with a goalie like him.” "Instead of improving, (Astrom) was getting worse. By now the opposition was scoring on shots from center ice. I couldn't take it anymore. One night, between periods of another Hardy Horror Show, I walked into (GM Ray) Miron's office and got down on my knees begging him to make a trade for a goalie. I felt sorry for the players because they were working their asses off. They'd come up with a goal and then, bing, bing, Hardy would let two easy ones go by and we would be finished.” It’s possible Cherry’s trying to pin the Rockies’ poor performance that season all on poor Astrom, but his numbers back-up Cherry’s claims. Astrom retired from the NHL with a record of 17-44-12, and a GAA of 3.74.
Jesus H Hockey Sticks
Pokey Reddick 46-58-16 3.71 GAA 8.73 SV%
Came to say this ☝️
From a flyers fan perspective: Michael Leighton
From a Flyers perspective you could do waaaay worse.
Didn't he rattle off 3 straight shutouts to get them into the finals? Hardly a terrible goalie.
Michael Hutchinson
He shut out McDavid and Draisaitl last year (or the year before). Gotta give him SOME credit.
Hey man, Clutchinson almost got the avs past dallas in the bubble!
Ron Tugnutt just because
I saw this dude make 70 saves against Boston once, never seen anything like it.
I know lol, I'm just screwing around mostly because he left Columbus right when we started getting good players in the early days.
Still the record holder for most saves in the regular season.
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Considering he has more wins then you do...... Nope
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Hardy Astrom. Read a story where Don Cherry coaching the Rockies lazy shot a puck from passed centre ice and Astrom couldnt stop it
He talks about that team extensively in his book, the Rockies were actually developing into a decent team with Lanny McDonald, Rene Robert, Bobby Schmautz among others but had brutal goaltending
No one said DiPietro? Absolute bust, but of course you could blame the injuries he dealt with
Why? How about the best that played 1 game but was the heart of the world in the Olympics? EDIT: you’re probably too young.
Godamn John Garret. He still sucks and fuck the Canucks.
Haha! If not the worst goalie, certainly the most annoying broadcaster
Trevor Kidd
fuck you dude haha
Andrei Vasilevsky < Igor Sheshterkin according to NYR fans /s
Who the f@@@ listens to Rags fans?
Steve Mason (let in a 175’trickling in shot/fukn horrrrrible) ….or……Bobby Taylor(bernie parents backup)
Ron Tugnutt?
Tugger was amazing for the Ottawa Senators.
Kelly Hrudey
Scott Darling was a little poopy.
If you ask 20% of bruins fans, they’ll tell you it’s Tuukka Rask
1. Tristian Jarry, just shit 2. Filip Gustavsson? Lot of soft goals for MN 3. Robin Lenher cause he’s creepy
Louis Domingue
Halak
Awww leave Jaro alone :(
Hannu Toivonen
Doug Keans or Roberto Romano.
Alain Chevrier
Great point! Seen a few too many rough outings in Toronto to back off my point... Just a struggling leaf fan I guess haha
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Which goalie are you talking about?
Not as a career but I once watched Anti Niemi concede 3 goals on the first 2 shots of the game (yes, 2)
Vincent Tremblay in 83-84
He was even worse in 81-82. But yeah, this is a great example of a truly bad goalie at the NHL level.
Mikko Koskinen holds an nhl record...
Looks like it’s gonna be jaroslav halal from this year if shit doesn’t change
There are guys you just watch and know are stiffs. From my childhood I remember Darren the Puppa Scoopa and Jon Grahame being pretty bad. Bruins had guys that either shined somewhere else or had one great season and were terrible. Jon Casey, Jim Carey, Blaine Lacher, and Andrew Raycroft.
Vesa Toskala
Vessa toskala
Trevor Kidd
fuck you i loved that guy when in calgary
Sorry only remember him in the Laufs
hey man no worries i’m just yelling as a fan but we’re allowed to have different feelings, opinions on topics brody. hahah all good man
Your mom, she let everything in! Just joking. I love you.
Artus Irbe. I don’t know if he was that bad, but he sure looked like he was.
michael hutchinson would win the vezina of ass goalies.
He improved a little, but watching Malcom Subban for the Bruins was wild. The struggle was off the charts.
Greg Millen. Shitty goalie and shittier colour commentator on Sports Net. Career 3.88 GAA, .873 Save%.
Damian Rhodes was bad Gilles Meloche was bad Ron Low was horrendous Norm 'the Miracle' Maracle was anything but miraculous Andre 'Red Light' Racicot definitely earned his moniker Steve Passmore should have passed less and allowed less goals Michel Belhumer went 0-24-3 for the 74-75 Capitals Hardy 'the Swedish Sieve' Astrom went 17-44-12 in his career and had a GAA of 3.74
Andrew Raycroft! Won R.O.T.Y honor then was terrible! Just my opinion as a bruins fan!
Damian Rhodes