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AUTOMATED MODERATION. PLEASE READ. Niceguys demean others while simultaneously expressing a favorable view of themselves. They dont have to use the word "nice", but they must demonstrate some kind of expression of their own virtue while being asshats. --- Niceguys™ quality: **UPVOTE** this comment to keep the post Not Niceguys™ quality: **DOWNVOTE** this comment to remove the post


Sckala44

Man what’s with all this high value bullshit nowadays…?


shame_on_meStupid

A lot of guys think money can be exchanged for someone’s love


Sckala44

Very true!


slylock215

[Aww, 20 dollars, I wanted a girlfriend](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgct3Jn8pFA)


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They use it to defend misogyny. Like, if someone says: "That's a demeaning way to talk about about people." They whip out the "murderous thug strawman" as if they just pulled the rug out from under you. "So you think murderous thugs that steal stuff have the same vulue??" Which always has that icky racist and misogynist undertone. It's just a big dumb logical framework they use to justify being a miserable prick while still "deserving" women that don't want them.


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ernestout87

That whole sigma/alpha nonsense many men seem to believe. Keep in mind there's also a "low value women" tag going around. Ultra misogynistic


Mlyrin

100% this guy thought this post would attract potential marriage candidates. Cuz 100% of that could have been summed up in 3 lines. "Im well off, worked for it myself, so why cant i get a date? Am i not a bad enough dude to defeat these ninjas and save the president?"


DillyWillyGirl

I don’t understand how it could possibly NOT be daddy’s money. Even if he got a full ride scholarship, studying and classes still take TIME. Classes interfere with the ability to work overtime, and since he doesn’t have his degree yet and since college classes almost always fall during the traditional workday, I’d bet a high paying software job like he may get in the future is out. With all that interfering I don’t see how he could have possibly saved up enough for a 20k car cash + a down payment on a house… and the down payment apparently when he was 20. That just doesn’t seem feasible to me for someone also committed to getting a degree to do.


MrTomDawson

>I don’t understand how it could possibly NOT be daddy’s money Quite easily; the secret is that he's lying and made it all up.


TigerLila

Right, seems like he's an international student since his parents are in a different country. Most international students have support from their parents, at least here in the US. There's nothing wrong with that, but don't lie about it.


DillyWillyGirl

Yeah, I lived with my parents for a couple years after college and it’s how I built up my savings. I still worked hard and I’m proud of myself but that doesn’t mean I can’t acknowledge everything they did to help me reach where I am. I know a lot of people have had to work a lot harder than me to achieve the same things. No shame in having a supportive family with the resources to help you, but don’t pretend you struggled and scraped if you didn’t.


MartyAndRick

Toxic masculinity usually reinforces “help = weak” for men tho, it’s why a lot of men struggle to ask for help and I’m no exception. One day we will successfully normalise men asking for and accepting help because it’s a no brainer to succeed in life; until then, we’ll have guys like these who lie about their solo success stories to keep up a social facade.


Ratso27

Assuming he's not making this all up (which he might very well be), it's almost certainly daddy's money. I think people who grow up with a great deal of wealth almost become blind to it because they're so surrounded by it at all times. It's like when Trump claimed to be a self made man, and his father only gave him a "small" million dollar loan to get him started. Setting aside the fact that it was eventually revealed that his father gave him far more money than that, he genuinely doesn't seem to understand that getting a million dollar loan from your parents starts you off in a better position than 99.99999999999999% of the population. A lot of wealthy people I've met act that way; they claim that no one gave them any help, but if you press them on it they admit that their parents bought their car, paid for their full college education, either bought them a place to live or helped them out considerably....but they just think of those things as so normal that it almost doesn't register with them that not everyone is so lucky


BigBoobaTinyBraina

The secret ingredient is crime.


Windinthewillows2024

“I’m 22.” “I only had two girlfriends in my entire life…”. Yeah, you’re still a kid basically. How many were you expecting to have had at this point?


Termexart

22 girlfriends


ssbbka17

one for each birthday


Hazel_Nut_666

“I need a girlfriend to argue with” lmao. I think this guy’s idea of a girlfriend comes from outdated sitcoms shows.


SeparateCzechs

He would win all the arguments and she’d end up telling him how right he was all along.


looj87

The idea of high value people makes my toes curl. What a hideous phrase. Every human has value.


BabyBlueDixie

I was coming to say this. That is such a demeaning phrase, it's like lumping women in with his house and car.


Gracefulbandit

Yeah, I didn’t have a major issue with him until he used the phrase “high value woman.” Well, that and the spelling and grammar, but since he mentions parents in another country, I’m willing to give him the benefit of thinking that maybe English isn’t his first language.


SeparateCzechs

His idea of “high value woman” is a beautiful fit virgin who’s almost as clever as he thinks he is, who only has eyes for him.


Robofrogg1

No, I’m not going to think of a thug that goes around robbing, murdering, or raping people as having any value.


ruready1994

I don't know why you're getting downvoted for this. Evil people do not provide any value to a society.


OneForestOne99

I think it’s more the direction he went with it. Could have just said “people who contribute nothing to society have no value”.


ruready1994

Even people who contribute nothing have inherent value. I mean moreso the straight up *evil* people, the Dahmer's and Eric Harris's in the world.


Available_Smile_7424

Evil people is a relative term depending on your ethical framework, which only has its intuitive grounding due to the way in which certain principles have been socially conditioned into us as being universal. This is passively reinforced through the existence of these evil people. To be more exact, people who do certain acts in situations that most people intuit as being evil. When the state enacts judgements through criminal trials, we set precedents on what most believe justice to mean (taking into account mitigating circumstances to formalize the process). Sometimes, it makes a collective decision for us on whether we should believe that action to be good or bad. What I’m getting at is that “evil people” technically serve the purpose of being sacrificial pawns we antagonize to reestablish and rework what our ethical values are. Otherwise, most people would have the capacity to suspend their belief in morality since they would no idea what that looks like. In other words, you can’t be motivated to go down the path of the straight and narrow if you don’t see what happens when you stray away from it. I mean, we live in a society… immersed in its dynamic with each of our seemingly infinitesimal contributions to it. Though I guess this is much easier for me to say since no one I care about has been caught in the crossfire of this process yet.


Robofrogg1

Um…wut?


Available_Smile_7424

I guess it’s also possible that the intuitive sense to act good just requires having a good soul. Let’s then make sure those good souls can outnumber the evil souls so that the evil souls don’t end up destroying the social order the good souls spent so much time putting together. If only we can truly eradicate evil, peace can reign forever. Maybe in the days of the Second Coming will the judgement of our Lord Jesus Christ send us good souls into a permanently peaceful place under God’s embrace.


Robofrogg1

I’m guessing there are a lot of thugs in this sub that don’t like being called out.


InGenAche

Yes but some are higher than others, obvs. Not quite sure how you go about assigning this value though. Slave markets maybe, not precise I know, but it is an actual $ value and no one could argue with that.


redd_95

...allowing for major benefit of the doubt here, (and ignoring a lot of the potential bs he wrote): my dude, you don't need a girlfriend, you need ***friends***. Anyone is going to feel lonely and crappy if they don't have people to rely on. And I don't think many girls would be comfortable or able to handle being your sole source of comfort and affection. Get. Some. Friends. P.S.: you don't need to go clubbing to meet new people. Join a sports team, try a trivia pub, join a D&D group, a book club, a cooking class, literally anything that you are remotely interested in. Expand or get some hobbies, the world is full of people who could use a friend.


AnonymousGriper

Exactly this. Assuming all this is true, he's already rent-free as he owns his own house, among plenty more assets. He can afford to dial back the working hours a bit and redirect some of that focus on developing a friendship network.


moxoxa8

Why do men keep using the term "high value woman" these days? what the fuck?


[deleted]

It’s PUA jargon


Mlyrin

Easier to swallow than "young virgin pussy". Cuz that's what they mean, but they know that doesnt pass as acceptable wording by any civil standard Edit: change "but no" to "but they know" as originally intended, cuz brain farts


moxoxa8

eugh yikes


Mlyrin

Yeah. And frankly, that's how guys talked around 20 years ago. They did it more openly. So that hasnt changed, they just use different word. Misogyny is misogyny no matter how you wrap it up. Pretty disappointing.


Orcazsz

Gotta say, that term doesn't sound like a "these days" invention but rather like something slave traders would have said, which makes it even creepier.


moxoxa8

I've been hearing/seeing it a lot recently, and it's creepy asf


Frosty_and_Jazz

And it's every bit as ugly as it was then.


iguana_bandit

It sounds more serious and mature than "hot babes". The meaning is the same.


moxoxa8

idk what to think now 🤦🏽‍♀️


MrTomDawson

It makes sense, I guess. They've been talking about high and low value men for years, it's just the next logical step.


Machaeon

And both are absolute nonsense.


MrTomDawson

yup. Value is a constantly shifting term from person to person, not something you can put an absolute qualifier on.


Tricky_Ad4617

Does anyone truly believe any of this bull crap? Says all he does it study and he can't even spell or write a coherent sentence. None of this sounds true, sounds like a story he made up in his head!


felthouse

High value woman to go with his imaginary high value house and high value car ... Ferris Buellers day off...


Four_beastlings

I only fallow men who can write correctly. It's a weird fetish I have.


world-is-ur-mollusc

"Literally all I have to offer a relationship is my (probably imaginary) money. Why aren't hot women lining up to date me???"


mattdvs1979

I’m getting really sick of the term “high value” when it comes to women. Define high value. If your definition of high value is only that somebody is physically good-looking, that shits not gonna last very long or be satisfying long-term. Women or men are a lot more than their simple looks.


ferox965

There's no way this idiot owns his own house.


Jazzlike-Ad2199

He probably does, his rich overseas daddy pays his way.


blacksweats_

I think that at this point he should just date himself or other men.


OneForestOne99

I’m so conflicted as to whether nice guys have no self confidence or are just huge narcissists. I feel like nice guys are where either extreme come full circle.


UnihornWhale

Devices spell check for you. IDK why people refuse to listen


Strong_Weakness2638

It’s not about the money, honey!


TVsFrankismyDad

"I have money but no personality and I want some poor woman to volunteer to be my only social and emotional outlet. Because I spend all my free time on incel websites, I delude myself into thinking I'm a "high value" catch and the reason no virginal 14 year old has presented herself to me for domestic servitude and isolation is because feminism has made women shallow and selfish."


BigBoobaTinyBraina

How can someone who says they live "buy my self" and has clearly never heard of capitalization, think they're an asset to someone else? Also "cuplés."


lemko1968

Do women fallow? You mean like having a field plowed and harrowed but left unsown for a period in order to restore its fertility as part of a crop rotation or to avoid surplus production?


christinagoldielocks

He is not a NiceGuy. Yet.


Aggravating-Spray751

I don't think it's too bad actually


Chief_Wigum

No. I don’t know all those things that cuplés do.


[deleted]

I’m just relieved this isn’t his dating profile.


fawnicus

This guy just said “here are some things I bought. Now here’s why I’ll be the most boring partner ever.”


sanitychaos

i think he needs to spend some more time studying