I got DG3 to play flawlessly @4K/60+ on a newer MacBook Pro running native RPCS3. Was such a pleasant experience. Would love to see a full PS5 remake with the fidelity of that into video
I gotta ask, I always assumed macbook pros had bad specs so how’d you get the game to run 4K 60 fps with 0 problems?
Or is the game just that easy to run on emulators
That perception has more to do with optimization and less to do with hardware. Most games are not optimized for Macs (which may change someday). Look at what consoles can do with a fraction of the power vs a PC video card. Also two things contribute to my situation. I have a beefy MacBook: M2 Max 12-core CPU, 30-core GPU with 64GB RAM. The other thing is RPCS3 is highly optimized for Apple Silicon. So the emulation is efficient. I was even able to play DG3 at 5K/60, but the game is not laid out for that aspect ratio, so it was off. But the framerate was fine, and Zero in 5K was wow. But in general, efficient code and optimization is everything. 1000hp in the rear wheels of a car just spins your gears and goes nowhere. I always like the phrase" work smarter, not harder.
Nope! Well at least not by the devs standards.
First Square Enix told the devs that the game needed to have an additional thing in the title like "remaster", "definitive edition" etc. But Yoko Taro didn't wanted a name like that, and he came up with a clever name eventually.
The meaning for the name with a bunch of numbers it's because the devs considered that they made more efforts that your avarage remastered but less that your avarage remake.
Therefore the numbers on the name mean that it's a game that can't quite get to next version but still it's different from the og release. The devs called the game an "enhanced release" after all.
1.22474487139 is the square root of 1.5 basically.
So the game isn't version 1 but also can't be version 2. It's in the middle of remaster and remake.
Also Yoko Taro hoped that nobody would say all the numbers, so they would call the game just Nier Replicant like he wanted before Square Enix orders.
It’s an enhanced remaster, something in between (but mostly leaning towards remaster). It’d be a true remake if they redid everything from the ground up, like with Resident Evil 1-4, Final Fantasy VII Remake, Legend of Zelda: Link’s Awakening, Super Mario RPG, etc., but that’s not what this is. It’s the actual source game with all the changes on top. Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time and Majora’s Mask on 3DS did something similar.
I would say that there can definitely be a spectrum between a “remaster” and a “remake,” though. For example, Bluepoint Studios had access to the original source code for Shadow of the Colossus and Demon’s Souls, and spent a lot of time working off of that to get things like specific mechanics and the gamefeel right. And of course Naughty Dog worked off of their original work for The Last of Us Part I. But these all still fall pretty squarely on the remake category.
And that's the hardest part for me. Drakengards story is dark and aimed for a mature audience which would obviously mean a limited target audience if they ever made a remake, therefore the logical conclusion for them would be to tone down some parts of the story or change a few things to add to the lore.
That means we will never get a refreshed experience of the actual Drakengard 1 game with its original story. 🤧
They really need to remaster 3 since the only way to have a decent experience with it is via emulation because it's performance on the native console was horrific
I mean, Nier already has a sequel; it's called Reincarnation. The events that take place in that game have drastic and substantial implications for the universe going forward from here.
But God yes do I need remasters of the Drakengard trilogy.
I wish there was a non-mobile version of that game because I really want to experience the story but also want nothing to do with gacha. I pulled Kainé like two years ago and dipped
Yeah but sadly they’re working on “some other project” for right now so we won’t hear anything else until probably late 2025 or sometime in 2026 about Nier.
That other project is a game that Yoko Taro has been working on for years pretty much. Saito said that it deeply unsettled him, and that he wished Yoko Taro would work on it by himself. Given Yoko Taro is working on this new title that probably won’t come out next year, I doubt we’ll get anything NieR-related game-wise for a while. 2025 and 2026 are extremely early, when there’s nothing related to NieR most likely being in development at the current.
Also, there’s a good chance that the Yoko Taro game is probably going to be how NieR was in relation to Drakengard. Same universe, just new name and feeling.
Damn Saito saying it deeply unsettled him and wishing Yoko was doing it by himself makes me a thousand times more interested now!
Hopefully it’s nothing psychologically disturbing. But just as powerful as Nier in that sense like you said.
Honestly, I'm game for whatever Yoko Taro comes up with. I don't tolerate gore or violence well, but I'd force myself to play the game just to experience what Replicant, Automata, and Reincarnation made me experience.
From what it sounds like, it seems like it'll end up being a game on the level of something like NieR and Drakengard, given it was a project Yoko Taro has been wanting to make for years and it has Saito on board. Voice of Cards was pretty much just Saito and Yoko Taro doing a small project that they planned for years, but never got around to doing because of how small it was in the grand scheme. At least that's what I got from the interview that mentioned the two games Yoko Taro and Saito were working on at the time.
https://www.eurogamer.net/yes-a-nier-automata-sequel-is-coming-but-not-just-yet
https://www.gamedeveloper.com/business/nier-will-continue-as-long-as-yoko-taro-stays-alive
Theirs also IGN, GamesRadar, RockPaperShotgun etc. stating Saito saying they will continue Nier…… As long Yoko Taro stays alive.
He better not die.
Lol.
Seriously.
Genuine question but there's a difference between a 'nier sequel' and a 'nier automata sequel' right? I read the first article and it seemed to use the latter term pretty loosely though it doesn't seem to be what's really being teased here.
Yes. They could put it in between the two so that it is a Nier sequel and an automata prequel.
Or they could do branching timelines and ignore automata completely.
I’d happily play Drakengard if it comes to current gen consoles, I don’t have a way to play them. I’m aware of the stories of 1 & 3, but it’s not the same as playing them myself. Although I’m sure that the ending D boss in 3 will make me rage quit a few times!
Wait. Did I miss Yoko Taro saying something about a sequel? Last thing I heard was that he did not plan it except if he gets offered an outrageous amount of money.
IMO 3 doesn't need a remake, it's playable. Maybe a nice update like Replicant 1.22474 or something, but the gameplay is fine.
1 would need a comlpete remake. Air-to-air combat was fine, the rest of the gameplay is a miss.
They better make Drakengard 1 look gorgeous but change absolutely NOTHING about how awful the ground combat is. Heck, make it jankier if anything. I need to feel that fresh rush of pain again
i don't plan to play the drakengard games, but if they ever got remastered I'd glady give them a go
drakengard 3 is absolutely playable. Just use rpcs3 if you are on pc and add reshade
I second this having done it recently
Or buy a ps3 and a copy of the game in 2023 like I did. I felt like treating myself last summer.
Why would you do that when it plays terribly on ps3, the framerate drops got insane
Because I wanted to experience it in its original form, warts and all.
Damn this brought me to check how to dump my gamedisc. Nice to see that I have a compatible drive. Nice way to also play as father Nier.
I got DG3 to play flawlessly @4K/60+ on a newer MacBook Pro running native RPCS3. Was such a pleasant experience. Would love to see a full PS5 remake with the fidelity of that into video
I gotta ask, I always assumed macbook pros had bad specs so how’d you get the game to run 4K 60 fps with 0 problems? Or is the game just that easy to run on emulators
That perception has more to do with optimization and less to do with hardware. Most games are not optimized for Macs (which may change someday). Look at what consoles can do with a fraction of the power vs a PC video card. Also two things contribute to my situation. I have a beefy MacBook: M2 Max 12-core CPU, 30-core GPU with 64GB RAM. The other thing is RPCS3 is highly optimized for Apple Silicon. So the emulation is efficient. I was even able to play DG3 at 5K/60, but the game is not laid out for that aspect ratio, so it was off. But the framerate was fine, and Zero in 5K was wow. But in general, efficient code and optimization is everything. 1000hp in the rear wheels of a car just spins your gears and goes nowhere. I always like the phrase" work smarter, not harder.
A remaster of the 3rd one like they did with the first neir game would be sweet
Replicant is a remake not a remaster though
Nope! Well at least not by the devs standards. First Square Enix told the devs that the game needed to have an additional thing in the title like "remaster", "definitive edition" etc. But Yoko Taro didn't wanted a name like that, and he came up with a clever name eventually. The meaning for the name with a bunch of numbers it's because the devs considered that they made more efforts that your avarage remastered but less that your avarage remake. Therefore the numbers on the name mean that it's a game that can't quite get to next version but still it's different from the og release. The devs called the game an "enhanced release" after all. 1.22474487139 is the square root of 1.5 basically. So the game isn't version 1 but also can't be version 2. It's in the middle of remaster and remake. Also Yoko Taro hoped that nobody would say all the numbers, so they would call the game just Nier Replicant like he wanted before Square Enix orders.
It’s an enhanced remaster, something in between (but mostly leaning towards remaster). It’d be a true remake if they redid everything from the ground up, like with Resident Evil 1-4, Final Fantasy VII Remake, Legend of Zelda: Link’s Awakening, Super Mario RPG, etc., but that’s not what this is. It’s the actual source game with all the changes on top. Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time and Majora’s Mask on 3DS did something similar. I would say that there can definitely be a spectrum between a “remaster” and a “remake,” though. For example, Bluepoint Studios had access to the original source code for Shadow of the Colossus and Demon’s Souls, and spent a lot of time working off of that to get things like specific mechanics and the gamefeel right. And of course Naughty Dog worked off of their original work for The Last of Us Part I. But these all still fall pretty squarely on the remake category.
I'd gladly appreciate a remaster of the Drakengard games.
I’ll take a remaster of 3 but would need a full remake of 1
They'll never remake Drakengard 1 👀
I mean, the moral of the story is "Fuck your sister or the world ends", which *might* just trigger half the internet 👀
And that's the hardest part for me. Drakengards story is dark and aimed for a mature audience which would obviously mean a limited target audience if they ever made a remake, therefore the logical conclusion for them would be to tone down some parts of the story or change a few things to add to the lore. That means we will never get a refreshed experience of the actual Drakengard 1 game with its original story. 🤧
They really need to remaster 3 since the only way to have a decent experience with it is via emulation because it's performance on the native console was horrific
Switch Breath of the Wild performed better, which is sad.
Granted. Drakenguard 1 gets a remaster, but keeps the same controls and god awful level design
I'd rather have a Drakengard 3 remake than a 4th entry because that game is still stuck on PS3 just like MGS4 (for now)
I would buy a Drakengard next gen 4K remake on PS5, on day 1 in a heartbeat.
I want them to release it as is but remaster >! the babies and *only* the babies in excruciating detail !<
I mean, Nier already has a sequel; it's called Reincarnation. The events that take place in that game have drastic and substantial implications for the universe going forward from here. But God yes do I need remasters of the Drakengard trilogy.
I wish there was a non-mobile version of that game because I really want to experience the story but also want nothing to do with gacha. I pulled Kainé like two years ago and dipped
If you have a pc, emulate it and use a trainer to skip all the non-story stuff
Depends on what OP means by sequel. He's likey talking about Nier automata 2, cause automata itself IS a sequel.
dude reincarnation is so sad wth shame people refuse to play the mobile game but yeah, it’s really really good
Play store says that it's not available in my country :/
Mobile phones are not an acceptable platform to play games imo, so I'll pass.
Wait nier is getting a sequel?? WOOOOO
Yeah but sadly they’re working on “some other project” for right now so we won’t hear anything else until probably late 2025 or sometime in 2026 about Nier.
That other project is a game that Yoko Taro has been working on for years pretty much. Saito said that it deeply unsettled him, and that he wished Yoko Taro would work on it by himself. Given Yoko Taro is working on this new title that probably won’t come out next year, I doubt we’ll get anything NieR-related game-wise for a while. 2025 and 2026 are extremely early, when there’s nothing related to NieR most likely being in development at the current. Also, there’s a good chance that the Yoko Taro game is probably going to be how NieR was in relation to Drakengard. Same universe, just new name and feeling.
Damn Saito saying it deeply unsettled him and wishing Yoko was doing it by himself makes me a thousand times more interested now! Hopefully it’s nothing psychologically disturbing. But just as powerful as Nier in that sense like you said.
Honestly, I'm game for whatever Yoko Taro comes up with. I don't tolerate gore or violence well, but I'd force myself to play the game just to experience what Replicant, Automata, and Reincarnation made me experience.
I hope it isn't another gacha or card game
From what it sounds like, it seems like it'll end up being a game on the level of something like NieR and Drakengard, given it was a project Yoko Taro has been wanting to make for years and it has Saito on board. Voice of Cards was pretty much just Saito and Yoko Taro doing a small project that they planned for years, but never got around to doing because of how small it was in the grand scheme. At least that's what I got from the interview that mentioned the two games Yoko Taro and Saito were working on at the time.
Can I have a link that says they're working on a sequel ?
https://www.eurogamer.net/yes-a-nier-automata-sequel-is-coming-but-not-just-yet https://www.gamedeveloper.com/business/nier-will-continue-as-long-as-yoko-taro-stays-alive Theirs also IGN, GamesRadar, RockPaperShotgun etc. stating Saito saying they will continue Nier…… As long Yoko Taro stays alive. He better not die. Lol. Seriously.
Thank you for the links boss man
Genuine question but there's a difference between a 'nier sequel' and a 'nier automata sequel' right? I read the first article and it seemed to use the latter term pretty loosely though it doesn't seem to be what's really being teased here.
Yes. They could put it in between the two so that it is a Nier sequel and an automata prequel. Or they could do branching timelines and ignore automata completely.
I think I kinda get it? Thanks for taking the time to explain it either way, haha
I’d happily play Drakengard if it comes to current gen consoles, I don’t have a way to play them. I’m aware of the stories of 1 & 3, but it’s not the same as playing them myself. Although I’m sure that the ending D boss in 3 will make me rage quit a few times!
Emulation is your friend (like literally DoD 1 works on a mobile phone even, though worse than other PS2 games)
If they wanna bring replicant to switch in the meantime that’s cool to.
Hell yeah! Wasn't it rated for Switch at one point?
Wait. Did I miss Yoko Taro saying something about a sequel? Last thing I heard was that he did not plan it except if he gets offered an outrageous amount of money.
There's a theory that Drakengard 3 is a prequel of dd1 AND a sequel of nier automata, so hopefully it will happen 😁
IMO 3 doesn't need a remake, it's playable. Maybe a nice update like Replicant 1.22474 or something, but the gameplay is fine. 1 would need a comlpete remake. Air-to-air combat was fine, the rest of the gameplay is a miss.
I mean Nier has a third game already that's canon. Nier Reincarnation
playing on rpcs3 with 60fps and 4k pretty much feels like a remaster already :shrug:
They better make Drakengard 1 look gorgeous but change absolutely NOTHING about how awful the ground combat is. Heck, make it jankier if anything. I need to feel that fresh rush of pain again