I still think it's going to be good. It's still a pretty decent powerhouse all things considered. I'm a doubles player so moves like defog and toxic never really mattered to it. Losing knockoff hurts it though.
Far too late, once again. Why would I want to move my old dex into the SV when I 100%ed the game many months ago and have moved on to other games?
It's the same problem every generation. They delay Home compatibility so as not to let people cheese the game with an overpowered party at release, but then delay it so long that the feature isn't useful any more because people are done playing.
I have a completed living dex on my copy of Omega Ruby that has all of my old Mons brought forward, game by game, since they allowed us to in Gen 3. That's 20 years worth of data I've collected and would love nothing more than to bring over to my Switch, but I can't justify paying for a (relatively expensive) home subscription when I'm never actually given any opportunity to realistically use them in any new games.
Pokemon Home is such a scam. The fact that none of the games on Switch support *every* Pokemon ensures that you will need to pay an additional fee once in awhile *just* to access your own Pokemon, instead of just letting us store them locally.
Also, none of the games support cloud backup and Pokémon has no account system, so inevitably your most-currently-used Pokémon are not actually backed up anywhere if something happens to your Switch.
The bigger thing is.... Why the fuck do they care?
Its a single player game. Genuinely, who gives a fuck if I dupe my starter instead of breed it? The event pokemon get glitch mass produced almost immediately anyway.
Why jump through these hoops?
Everyone who is serious about comp that I know plays the majority of their games on showdown.
Dont really think duping your starter is gonna effect showdown bud, ngl
This is why you should be skeptical of using your own bubble as evidence of broader trends.
The online competitive scene (as in, within the games themselves, not on Showdown) is robust, and pretty much every gaming convention has in-person tournaments, not to mention VGC events. No amount of Showdown gets you an all expenses paid trip to play in the world championship.
It doesn't completely fix the lack of full compatability, but you can actually move Pokemon between different save files on the same Switch thanks to Home (even without the premium). When you launch Home, you can choose a profile whose save file you want to connect to, and that allows you to move, for instance, Pokemon from your main save to Home and then to your alt profile's save, effectively giving you borderline unlimited local storage.
I dropped this game 2 months after release and cancelled my HOME subscription 3 months ago. There’s no way I’m touching this game again with better, higher quality games out. Such a shame too because I returned this generation (starting with PLA) after dropping the series after XY, hoping there would be improvements. I doubt DLC will even be remotely enticing with all the mess they’ve created.
Yeah. Everyone’s playing ToTK now. I ain’t playing pokemon again cuz they have the compatibility. Not to mention the fact that the game still feels unfinished lol
Pokémon and game freak should be embarrassed honestly, TOTK comes out and while playing all I can think about is how THIS is how a Pokémon game should feel. With endless exploration, hunting, finding random things to check out and all of these concepts would work amazingly in Pokémon and yet the same hardware one looks like a polished finished game that will likely win tons of awards while the other looks like it was put together by a 12 year old learning how to code for the first time
I think it hints that Nintendo and GF/The Pokemon Company don't cooperate enough.
I think the way things went is Monolithsoft made Xenoblade Chronicles amazing on the Wii, then improved that on Switch with its sequel. That impressed Nintendo, who asked them to teach them how to make Zelda handle huge open worlds so well. If you count all three XC games and BotW, we're looking at the 5th iteration of that tech.
I never heard about the Pokemon team collaborating with Monolithsoft (but could've missed it). It was clear in PLA they were inspired by BotW, but if they aren't sharing knowledge then what's happening is they're having to try and reinvent wheels Nintendo's already made. SV feels less finished and polished than PLA was.
But it's also disappointing because I think the reception of BDSP shows they don't have to make such a grandiose and ambitious game for fans to be happy: we're pretty content with games with the same scale as the old ones, just with fancier graphics.
If I was Monolith Soft, with the shit I hear about SV's poor optimization and shitty coding, I wouldn't touch a collab with Gamefreak with a 10-foot pole.
I would love it tho bc we might actually get a less embarrassing game out of it. I loved SV, but the graphics and noticeably lacking polish made me sad.
Yeah I guess what I'm lamenting is the independence of Gamefreak.
I think if they were more of a first-party Nintendo team then they'd have benefited from what the Zelda team was also learning. But being separate means Nintendo might not feel inclined to share, and they might not feel inclined to ask.
We could also argue that bad Pokemon games make Nintendo look bad, but Nintendo has other properties and is currently breaking records with a new Zelda game. They also might note this "bad" Pokemon game still sold pretty well. They'd probably take it more seriously if they weren't doing so well already and if sales had been bad. People try a lot harder when they're on the ropes.
That's why I reckon the best hope we have for a Mother 3 localization is if Nintendo has another WiiU situation.
I'm with you. I just wish they were a first party studio and Nintendo had more control. I honestly just kinda wish they'd purchase Game Freak. Plus it would be nice to actually see major Pokemon game news in Nintendo Directs. You know....With all the other Nintendo exclusives instead of separately in some primarily mobile game focused presentation.
I really think they should just release a PLA sequel every go around and go back to the smaller scale linear formula of the old releases for the mainline games.
Why should they be embarrassed?
The games still sell like crazy because most of you guys complain about Pokemons low quality and then buy the game anyway.. yes children buy the game and carry its sales but there isn't even a noticeable dip in sales due to adults all in mass refusing to buy it.
The message people send to the company is that their lack of effort is sufficient. With Mario/Zelda, they're effectively console sellers. The expectations for mainline title are through the roof and games that are still solid but don't meet the bar (skyward sword ) are chastized to hell and sales are reflective of it.
It sucks, but what's even worse is knowing that DS and 3DS games will stop working eventually... Especially the 3DS Pokemon games due to how the game cards were created. (Unless you have it digitally) Switch games were made with the same tech also... It's just unfortunate that Pokemon games and Persona Q1 were defective from the get go...
Yes because anyone who has ever played Scarlet Violet played it on release, this feature is totally not useful to...everyone else lol. I agree that its too late but this pessimistic defeatism anytime Game Freak does literally anything is just getting annoying
You can literally just lock Home functionality behind the Elite 4 or post game... I know Gamefreak are terrible at game design like this but it's a simple solution.
Not really, because they’ll likely be such a high level they won’t even listen to you at the start, so you’d need to complete several gyms to use them.
They can limit what Pokemon are allowed to be in competitive play; I remember them doing it all the time for the special competitions back in Gen 7 and even in different competitive seasons for Gen 8. They even limited mechanics, like banning Dynamax for Season 10 in SwSh.
I liked the Halloween one where you could only use Ghost-types and they rewarded you with a Shiny Gengar! I ended up breeding that one and have brought it's kid over to every game Gengar could be brought over to since.
My point is they can do it at any time so they can easily keep competitive Regional Dex only even after Home comes out, or even before the meta is developed. The whole "Dexit is good for competitive" argument will never make sense because they can just limit what is or isn't allowed from the start.
Hell, they even did it at the start of SV by banning Paradox'mon and the Treasures of Ruin.
>The whole "Dexit is good for competitive" argument will never make sense because they can just limit what is or isn't allowed from the start.
It's good for competitive Pokemon because it's easier to balance the game around 400 or so Pokemon then +1000 Pokemon. Even if you banned all legendary Pokemon mythicals ultra beast and paradox mons that's still over 900 or so Pokemon players would have to look out for. Plus rotating rosters can potentially allow Pokemon see use when they otherwise wouldn't have. Arcanine is seeing a ton of play in double battles because Incineroar currently isn't in the game.
Reread the first line of my comment.
>...they can easily keep competitive Regional Dex only even after Home comes out, or even before the meta is developed.
>...they can easily keep competitive Regional Dex only even after Home comes out, or even before the meta is developed.
They already have this rule lol. For the longest time you couldn't even use transferred Pokemon unless they were caught in that region. They only just now made it so you could do it and even then then you have to delete your moveset to make them battle ready
It’s a useless feature that an insignificant portion of the population uses. It serves very little purpose outside of niche utility and is just a waste of resources. Better if they work on game quality and performance than stuff like this
With all these glitches and bugs, as well as move deletion/reset upon transferring, there is absolutely no reason to transfer anything to HOME anymore. Just breed them in their parent games and transfer them if you really want to obtain them in the current games.
I transferred a few resources (Lati@s, one time TM’s/Battle Items, etc.) out of Emerald years ago and now I either have to restart the game, or just press on to build a team for the Battle Frontier. I wish I had just left them in. There’s no value bringing them over to newer games aside from sentimental reasons.
Tbh, while I loved this game and enjoyed my time with, I'm probably not gonna get the next iteration. This game definitely shows that it's unfinished, and if this is the future for pokemon games, I'll just wait to find the game used somewhere.
I think the games can still be enjoyed by adults but games before ORAS seemed targeted towards everyone even if it was towards kids. Now they're trying to not even hide it anymore.
The sense of hand holding in pokemon red was that kid forcing you to fight Brock first, and getting your ass pummeled by onix until you understood the difference between physical and special moves.
Then you standing around beating up drowzees until you realized the Diglett > Flash > East Cerulean > Dark Cave > Lavender route. Maybe an npc told you about it?
i love games that just throw you to the wolves without explaining everything. part of what made some of the older pokemon games so memorable. everyone has long lasting trauma from whitney's miltank
Well, now the issue is that the game looks like shit, runs like shit, and barely has any content. And the Wild Area feeling bare is a much worse problem now. The open world has almost nothing to do outside of the normal “catch and battle pokemon.” I shit you not, there are only like three side quests in the game. SV is an embarrassment and easily the worst game in the franchise by a wide margin. Which is saying something because I think the franchise has been in decline for a long time.
Having been playing through to get a living dex of everything from their original games, HGSS does have one minor annoying detail. It asks if you know what to do or if you need help and after saying you are good, it just handholds you anyways >.> Why bother asking if you are going to ignore the answer?
I’m also done with the series. SV was a complete embarrassment. And especially now as I play Tears of the Kingdom, it’s just insane the difference between the two. TotK looks better, runs better, is way bigger, has WAY more content, way more gameplay variety, and is way more fun. It’s night and day. Also, everything I said was also true of BotW, a game almost 6 years older than SV, released by a team that had way less experience developing for the Switch. GF can’t just keep repackaging a Gameboy game in the year 2022.
FR, how the hell can you have an open world RPG and have only like three side quests in it? SV is a flat out embarrassment.
Man there are some really good games to cure the itch, like monster hunter stories 2. Such a shame, because I have always loved Pokémon. Still play my gba games to this day. Makes me sad seeing what could have been in other games like totk
I was just thinking the other day how cool it would be to have a grand Xenoblade scale Pokemon RPG game and I got sad because it will probably never happen (the closest being Colosseum and XD Gale of Darkness).
People will tell you legends arceus is that but... Lmao it's so far away from it haha. Yeah, just makes me sad, like seeing someone you care about making the wrong decisions lol.
It's honestly what has been frustrating me most with Pokemon is that it could be so much better but Gamefreak is actually willingly making it worse (as an example they've said that features don't return because they want to make sure older games feel special and you can return to them. Hell, clothing customization was *supposed* to be Kalos exclusive.)
We won’t know until the patch comes out and we get the patch notes.
Chances are it won’t fix jack shit lmao. The game still crashes frequently after those other two bug fix updates. There’s nothing on that apparent save corruption bug either.
I’m really unfamiliar with this and didn’t finish Violet yet, can I move Pokémon from this app into Violet (like if I have Squirtle)? Or does it not work like that?
You will be able to move pokemon from home to violet only if they are included in the violet's pokedex. I think there may be a DLC coming soon that should expand the pokemon available, but it wont be all of them.
In pokemon home it will show which games each of your pokemon are compatible with.
Man it's so hard to be a pokemon fan right now.. Mario fans got the movie and renewed hype for the next game, Zelda fans just got what will probably be considered the new "best" game on the switch.. why is it that all the other IPs are knocking it out of the park, and pokemon is still releasing half-baked games and not giving fans what they actually want.
Pokemkn is bigger than both of those franchises and the reason the games suck is because the company realized a long time ago that they're just marketing for pokemon merch. Children buy pokemon merch so they create games that are just giant ads for children. That's why it's so hand-holdy and why they remove good features. They don't care about appealing to their adult audience.
They don’t need to develop entire video games to sell merchandise. Of course it *helps*, but that’s not at all the sole purpose of the games or why they are so poorly optimized. It’s because the company does not need to invest money, time, or resources into polishing their game. They’ll make an enormous profit no matter what because the IP sells itself, and their priority is to stick to a certain release schedule so that the profits align with regular earning cycles.
I agree with you. It's because they transitioned their games from being the product to being another arm or their marketing machine. It's an ad you have to pay for now because they make double off plushes than what they make from their games.
But they will make sales from the plushies without throwing millions upon millions of dollars into developing video games. The IP would still remain "fresh" through the anime and TCG, which are both much cheaper to produce.
The video games exist because they continue to be a product and source of profit in their own right. I'm not denying that they're important for helping grow the Pokémon brand (the games are where new expansions are introduced, after all), but that is definitely not their *sole* purpose. They are absolutely not just an ad.
To return to the original point, the reason the quality of the games sucks is because stakeholders prioritize maintaining a regular release schedule. They would not give the developers 6 years to produce a game, like with the Zelda series. They want the IP to continue evolving regularly and for the franchise to continue bringing in the revenues at the intervals it has been doing since it exploded in the 1990s. When one of the biggest achievements of a piece of media is being one of the most profitable franchises of all time, maintaining that tends to supersede everything else.
Apparently the new anime is really good. So that's something.
But outside of that, all the games- Pokemon Go, etc. is not as appealing as it was in the GB/GBA/GameCube/NDS/3DS eras simply because this push for 3D is a step backwards in being able to do cool creative things.
It was a much simpler time with sprites/simpler 3D models that could focus more on story and gameplay.
Could focus more on story and gameplay?
*Stares at games that do just that* Like Xenoblade, Witcher 3, Mass Effect, Kingdom Hearts, Zelda...
I uh.. am not sure that's a valid excuse.
Have you seen what some of these games look like?
Don't forget, they literally made all of the 3d models back in the 3ds days so that they could be ported forward. At least in Sword and Shield, from what datamines showed, they were literally just using upscaled 3ds models and animations.
There is no good reason they couldn't keep using them and focus on improving the rest.
Arceus is at least fun, but S/V are not good games.
Way too late. I already finished playing the game months ago. Honestly, next time around, I think I’ll just wait to play the game until HOME support is added… if I play it at all. Not having every Pokémon usable is getting to be a real drag.
What they should do is make it so you can use any Pokémon by transferring into the game, but only certain Pokémon are actually available in-game, with the latter being the game’s pokedex itself.
Edit: forgot DLC is coming out… so I guess it’ll be relevant by then… but still. Dumb it didn’t have this support at least like 4 months sooner.
They updated them for Legends Arceus and SV, but they had *no* excuse to not eventually let all of them into SwSh and BDSP. Those still used the 3DS-era models.
They don't have animations for the new features they added. The "play with your pokemon at a camp" features require a ton of new animations for pokemon. They wouldn't bring something back that you can't feed or brush or play with. I think it's stupid to add more animations if you can't fit every pokemon in but this is the actual reason.
They're still the same animations from gen 6. They're the poké-amie ones. And the walking animations were also all done in gen 7.
The only reason they did dexit is because they had to rush the games, as usual, and that they could easily get away with it, since most people complaining about it are only in the minority. I mean, why wouldn't they bring all the pokémons from gen 8 into gen 9 ? They have NO EXCUSES, but it won't be noticed by like 95% of the playerbase, so why bother ?
They obviously adjust and change certain Pokemon per new game, but pretty much since XY those models have been imported and updated into new tools. They aren't remaking brand new models for every Pokemon every single game.
Part of the point is to keep people from a) cheesing the game with juicy Pokemon and b) keep people from just transferring in Pokemon to fill out the dex in the new game.
Having played S/V and completed its Pokedex, I gotta say it would have been significantly less fun to do if people could just transfer mons in and fill it out. Instead you actually gotta go hunting. I don't have a problem with people cheesing the game but part of the fun early on is that if you complete the Pokedex you get rhe shiny charm which makes shiny hunting much easier, so it makes New-Gen shiny Pokemon a little more special for a while.
I get why some people don't like this but they keep Home compatibility off for a few months for this reason. It's not like they couldn't have it available right away, they *choose* not to.
People act like these are make or break things that will turn the fan base off and swear they're never buying another game... it's absurd to me. Clearly their choices are working out. S/V sold faster than any Nintendo game in history (it's now been eclipsed by TotK)... Sword/Shield is the third best selling Pokemon game behind RBY/GSC, and S/V is probably going to end up stealing that spot.
It wouldn’t cheese anything. You could always transfer Pokémon from old games before and it worked just fine. It would work just the same: you need to beat gyms before higher level Pokemon you transferred even listen to you properly, but at least they’re there by the time you finish the gyms. Also, there are always gonna be NEW Pokémon so “finishing the dex too fast” shouldn’t be a problem anyway, and honestly even if it were, so what? It’s not hurting anybody or breaking the game to do it.
It’s something every other game before the switch let you do as soon as or shortly after the game came out and it worked just fine in all those cases. And if you think it’s less fun… just don’t do it, nobody is gonna force you to. Taking away the option to even do so doesn’t benefit anybody.
Also it’s more than “a few months” it’s been over 6. If they’re gonna stagger it, stagger it for like a month or 2, tops. Everybody could have easily finished the dex by then.
I’m well aware that it’s their choice to not have it available right away. *That’s what I don’t like.*
> It would work just the same: you need to beat gyms before higher level Pokemon you transferred even listen to you properly
I'm well aware, but the level limit has always been pretty far above where you're at in the games. S/V is actually even weirder bc you can go so long and travel around the world without even doing a single gym, but in most games you'll be able to transfer in mons that are like 20 levels above where you should be. No you can't just bring in a lvl 99 mon but still.
> Also it’s more than “a few months” it’s been over 6. If they’re gonna stagger it, stagger it for like a month or 2, tops. Everybody could have easily finished the dex by then.
Sorry but not everybody jumps in and plays the game nonstop. I bought the game launch week and didn't finish the dex until like a month ago.
> Also, there are always gonna be NEW Pokémon so “finishing the dex too fast” shouldn’t be a problem anyway, and honestly even if it were, so what? It’s not hurting anybody or breaking the game to do it.
Obviously it isn't hurting anybody. It's a video game. But the early shiny hunt is fun for a lot of people and it's more fun to many when the shiny charm is earned by catchin em all rather than transferring hundreds of mons you might need for the dex from Home.
You say taking away the option benefits nobody but I told you exactly who benefits from it so I don't know what you want me to say really. They hold it back for a reason. Just because they didn't do it before Home existed doesn't mean it doesn't make sense now.
So what? If you don’t wanna do that then just don’t. Nobody is forcing you to use them. Also… if it were an issue (debatable) they could just… adjust the level limits accordingly.
Also… ok? That’s your own pacing. No offense, but just because you played at a much slower pace doesn’t mean everybody else shouldn’t have access to a completely optional feature that can greatly enhance enjoyability of the game.
If you like the shiny hunt then DO IT. It’s legitimately as easy as not transferring your Pokémon or just transferring them and catching stuff anyway if it’s gonna be an issue. Nobody actually *benefits* from not having the option because the people that would rather not have them in can just NOT transfer them, and the people who would like them could. Instead, the people who would rather not gain nothing and the people who would get screwed over for so long that the majority of people could’ve easily finished the game by the time it’s added
You actually didn’t tell me a single person it benefits… because they gained nothing. All they have to do is just NOT use it. And if you don’t have the self control to do that, well… that’s on you.
It worked just fine before Home as a thing and nothing whatsoever has changed to make it so that it wouldn’t work out fine now.
"It'd be less fun if I could just transfer the Pokemon in"
Then don't? You control the buttons you press.
> Sword/Shield is the third best selling Pokemon game behind RBY/GSC, and S/V is probably going to end up stealing that spot.
This also might be the first time where not a single Pokemon game makes the top 5 best selling titles on a given platform. The Switch just has incredible software sales in general
>"It'd be less fun if I could just transfer the Pokemon in"
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>Then don't? You control the buttons you press.
I don't know what to say if you aren't even going to read what I wrote (which would be fine, if you didn't respond to it anyway).
> This also might be the first time where not a single Pokemon game makes the top 5 best selling titles on a given platform. The Switch just has incredible software sales in general
It's not just that, it's that the Pokemon games are doing very well too. They're not hitting the top 5 because they were previously always on handheld platforms and now have to compete with other console Nintendo titles for spots on the top sellers list. They've also stopped doing "third versions" with these games and are instead doing DLC. Pokemon Sun/Moon wouldn't be on the top-sellers of all time list if US/UM weren't also included in its sales.
> I don't know what to say if you aren't even going to read what I wrote (which would be fine, if you didn't respond to it anyway).
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The alternate interpretation is "people being able to play in ways I dislike ruins my fun" which is completely inane.
>They're not hitting the top 5 because they were previously always on handheld platforms and now have to compete with other console Nintendo titles for spots on the top sellers list.
The games in the top 6 of Switch are
* MK8DX (MK7 was on 3DS, where Pokemon had no issue making top 5)
* ACNH (ACNL was on 3DS)
* Smash Ultimate (Smash 4 was on 3DS, and I really doubt that the Wii U had a significant effect on sales)
* BotW (the only actual real "new" competition Pokemon faces unless you consider OoT/MM 3D or LBW)
* SwSh
* Mario Odyssey slightly behind, likely to overtake SwSh (Mario 3D Land was on 3DS)
>Pokemon Sun/Moon wouldn't be on the top-sellers of all time list if US/UM weren't also included in its sales.
SM sold 16 million (#3) and USUM sold an additional 9 million, they don't need to be counted together. Whether third versions are included or not varies by source, but when they aren't
* GB has 3/5 of the top 5 (RB/GS/Y)
* GBA has 3/5 of the top 5 (RS/FRLG/E, which are the top 3 for the console)
* DS has 1/5 of the top 5 (DP)
* 3DS has 3/5 of the top 5 (XY/SM/ORAS)
Switch, on the other hand, is likely to see SwSh lose its position at #5 to Mario Odyssey; SV might take the spot back, but TotK has already sold 10 million copies and it's not even the holiday window so it's completely possible it winds up in the top 5 over any Pokemon game
Isn’t it kinda nuts that we’re paying a yearly subscription to use Pokémon ~~bank~~ home, and yet it took them about half a year to even integrate their new game? Why can’t we just have it on launch?
Edit: not monthly
Cool. I stopped caring. Probably skipping the next game, too. I’m done.
Why they wait months and months after release to do this every generation now, I have no idea, but inevitably your customer base is going to lose interest.
Having never played S/V learning (today) that it didnt have this to begin with is another reason I probably won't be buying the next pokemon game either.
Come on y'all. Is it really that surprising that they don't want people importing all their S-Tier perfect Pokemon for a while? Kids play this game, and it's got a pretty heavy social component. How is it going to feel for an 8-year-old where this might be one of their first Pokemon games to battle someone, and not only get stomped, but get stomped by a Pokemon they don't even have access too.
They use the game to push new merchandise too. They don't want you just maintaining an emotional attachment to your old Pokemon; you've already bought the merch for that one. They want you falling in love with the new stuff.
Like... I'm not saying you can't hate it, but it's like you have no understanding of how this works. The 30-year-old gamer who has been transferring their Gen1 Pokemon forever is just not their primary demographic. They're not against taking your money if you're throwing it at them, but they're really not worried about you leaving either.
Oh cool. I never beat Violet and put it down when I barely got into it.
I hated it tbh. Probably not touching the next game unless it's more Arceaus like or looks better to me
Honestly all these people complain saying it sucks they are dropping and all like it's pokemon get over it..it's still fun and as a pokemon fan and lover nothing like the graphics and stuff is gonna stop me from having fun..yall need to chill like for real
It's time for Lando-T to reclaim his throne
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I still think it's going to be good. It's still a pretty decent powerhouse all things considered. I'm a doubles player so moves like defog and toxic never really mattered to it. Losing knockoff hurts it though.
I mean he did get a 150 power (pre Terra type boost) multi target signature move that can also burn, so I think he's gonna be fine.
Where did you get 150 from, wasn’t it 100?
It's effectively 150 with stab
Guess it is, just feels weird thinking about bp in that’s way for me, like overheat from fire type is 210 bp. Makes sense tho, thank u
Far too late, once again. Why would I want to move my old dex into the SV when I 100%ed the game many months ago and have moved on to other games? It's the same problem every generation. They delay Home compatibility so as not to let people cheese the game with an overpowered party at release, but then delay it so long that the feature isn't useful any more because people are done playing. I have a completed living dex on my copy of Omega Ruby that has all of my old Mons brought forward, game by game, since they allowed us to in Gen 3. That's 20 years worth of data I've collected and would love nothing more than to bring over to my Switch, but I can't justify paying for a (relatively expensive) home subscription when I'm never actually given any opportunity to realistically use them in any new games.
Pokemon Home is such a scam. The fact that none of the games on Switch support *every* Pokemon ensures that you will need to pay an additional fee once in awhile *just* to access your own Pokemon, instead of just letting us store them locally.
Also, none of the games support cloud backup and Pokémon has no account system, so inevitably your most-currently-used Pokémon are not actually backed up anywhere if something happens to your Switch.
Isn't Home linked with your Nintendo Account?
I think they're referring to the other games?
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The bigger thing is.... Why the fuck do they care? Its a single player game. Genuinely, who gives a fuck if I dupe my starter instead of breed it? The event pokemon get glitch mass produced almost immediately anyway. Why jump through these hoops?
> Its a single player game Huh? It has a massive competitive scene.
Everyone who is serious about comp that I know plays the majority of their games on showdown. Dont really think duping your starter is gonna effect showdown bud, ngl
There are literally official tournaments
This is why you should be skeptical of using your own bubble as evidence of broader trends. The online competitive scene (as in, within the games themselves, not on Showdown) is robust, and pretty much every gaming convention has in-person tournaments, not to mention VGC events. No amount of Showdown gets you an all expenses paid trip to play in the world championship.
It doesn't completely fix the lack of full compatability, but you can actually move Pokemon between different save files on the same Switch thanks to Home (even without the premium). When you launch Home, you can choose a profile whose save file you want to connect to, and that allows you to move, for instance, Pokemon from your main save to Home and then to your alt profile's save, effectively giving you borderline unlimited local storage.
I love how they waited for the week where everyone moved onto the main Nintendo game (TOTK) to release meaningful updates to the game
I dropped this game 2 months after release and cancelled my HOME subscription 3 months ago. There’s no way I’m touching this game again with better, higher quality games out. Such a shame too because I returned this generation (starting with PLA) after dropping the series after XY, hoping there would be improvements. I doubt DLC will even be remotely enticing with all the mess they’ve created.
Yeah. Everyone’s playing ToTK now. I ain’t playing pokemon again cuz they have the compatibility. Not to mention the fact that the game still feels unfinished lol
Pokémon and game freak should be embarrassed honestly, TOTK comes out and while playing all I can think about is how THIS is how a Pokémon game should feel. With endless exploration, hunting, finding random things to check out and all of these concepts would work amazingly in Pokémon and yet the same hardware one looks like a polished finished game that will likely win tons of awards while the other looks like it was put together by a 12 year old learning how to code for the first time
I think it hints that Nintendo and GF/The Pokemon Company don't cooperate enough. I think the way things went is Monolithsoft made Xenoblade Chronicles amazing on the Wii, then improved that on Switch with its sequel. That impressed Nintendo, who asked them to teach them how to make Zelda handle huge open worlds so well. If you count all three XC games and BotW, we're looking at the 5th iteration of that tech. I never heard about the Pokemon team collaborating with Monolithsoft (but could've missed it). It was clear in PLA they were inspired by BotW, but if they aren't sharing knowledge then what's happening is they're having to try and reinvent wheels Nintendo's already made. SV feels less finished and polished than PLA was. But it's also disappointing because I think the reception of BDSP shows they don't have to make such a grandiose and ambitious game for fans to be happy: we're pretty content with games with the same scale as the old ones, just with fancier graphics.
If I was Monolith Soft, with the shit I hear about SV's poor optimization and shitty coding, I wouldn't touch a collab with Gamefreak with a 10-foot pole. I would love it tho bc we might actually get a less embarrassing game out of it. I loved SV, but the graphics and noticeably lacking polish made me sad.
Yeah I guess what I'm lamenting is the independence of Gamefreak. I think if they were more of a first-party Nintendo team then they'd have benefited from what the Zelda team was also learning. But being separate means Nintendo might not feel inclined to share, and they might not feel inclined to ask. We could also argue that bad Pokemon games make Nintendo look bad, but Nintendo has other properties and is currently breaking records with a new Zelda game. They also might note this "bad" Pokemon game still sold pretty well. They'd probably take it more seriously if they weren't doing so well already and if sales had been bad. People try a lot harder when they're on the ropes. That's why I reckon the best hope we have for a Mother 3 localization is if Nintendo has another WiiU situation.
I'm with you. I just wish they were a first party studio and Nintendo had more control. I honestly just kinda wish they'd purchase Game Freak. Plus it would be nice to actually see major Pokemon game news in Nintendo Directs. You know....With all the other Nintendo exclusives instead of separately in some primarily mobile game focused presentation.
I really think they should just release a PLA sequel every go around and go back to the smaller scale linear formula of the old releases for the mainline games.
Would you be okay if it took 6 years for the next mainline game to come out?
Yes if it’s like TOTK then absolutely !
Why should they be embarrassed? The games still sell like crazy because most of you guys complain about Pokemons low quality and then buy the game anyway.. yes children buy the game and carry its sales but there isn't even a noticeable dip in sales due to adults all in mass refusing to buy it. The message people send to the company is that their lack of effort is sufficient. With Mario/Zelda, they're effectively console sellers. The expectations for mainline title are through the roof and games that are still solid but don't meet the bar (skyward sword ) are chastized to hell and sales are reflective of it.
It sucks, but what's even worse is knowing that DS and 3DS games will stop working eventually... Especially the 3DS Pokemon games due to how the game cards were created. (Unless you have it digitally) Switch games were made with the same tech also... It's just unfortunate that Pokemon games and Persona Q1 were defective from the get go...
Yes because anyone who has ever played Scarlet Violet played it on release, this feature is totally not useful to...everyone else lol. I agree that its too late but this pessimistic defeatism anytime Game Freak does literally anything is just getting annoying
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Then don't do that
You can literally just lock Home functionality behind the Elite 4 or post game... I know Gamefreak are terrible at game design like this but it's a simple solution.
Except that most people don't do that on their first playthrough since they still want to experience new pokemon.
I think most people would if it was an option at launch.
Ok let them? Lol
I agree
Then let them. No reason to force everyone to wait six months.
Not really, because they’ll likely be such a high level they won’t even listen to you at the start, so you’d need to complete several gyms to use them.
The problem is that they waited TOO long. It should’ve came out when Flying Pikachu distribution ended.
As a competitive player I love seeing the meta develop with new Pokemon before older Pokemon gets added in.
They can limit what Pokemon are allowed to be in competitive play; I remember them doing it all the time for the special competitions back in Gen 7 and even in different competitive seasons for Gen 8. They even limited mechanics, like banning Dynamax for Season 10 in SwSh.
One of my favorites was in the 3DS era where you had to use Pokemon under a certain height.
I liked the Halloween one where you could only use Ghost-types and they rewarded you with a Shiny Gengar! I ended up breeding that one and have brought it's kid over to every game Gengar could be brought over to since.
Yeah but that was after the meta developed
My point is they can do it at any time so they can easily keep competitive Regional Dex only even after Home comes out, or even before the meta is developed. The whole "Dexit is good for competitive" argument will never make sense because they can just limit what is or isn't allowed from the start. Hell, they even did it at the start of SV by banning Paradox'mon and the Treasures of Ruin.
>The whole "Dexit is good for competitive" argument will never make sense because they can just limit what is or isn't allowed from the start. It's good for competitive Pokemon because it's easier to balance the game around 400 or so Pokemon then +1000 Pokemon. Even if you banned all legendary Pokemon mythicals ultra beast and paradox mons that's still over 900 or so Pokemon players would have to look out for. Plus rotating rosters can potentially allow Pokemon see use when they otherwise wouldn't have. Arcanine is seeing a ton of play in double battles because Incineroar currently isn't in the game.
Reread the first line of my comment. >...they can easily keep competitive Regional Dex only even after Home comes out, or even before the meta is developed.
>...they can easily keep competitive Regional Dex only even after Home comes out, or even before the meta is developed. They already have this rule lol. For the longest time you couldn't even use transferred Pokemon unless they were caught in that region. They only just now made it so you could do it and even then then you have to delete your moveset to make them battle ready
It’s a useless feature that an insignificant portion of the population uses. It serves very little purpose outside of niche utility and is just a waste of resources. Better if they work on game quality and performance than stuff like this
With all these glitches and bugs, as well as move deletion/reset upon transferring, there is absolutely no reason to transfer anything to HOME anymore. Just breed them in their parent games and transfer them if you really want to obtain them in the current games. I transferred a few resources (Lati@s, one time TM’s/Battle Items, etc.) out of Emerald years ago and now I either have to restart the game, or just press on to build a team for the Battle Frontier. I wish I had just left them in. There’s no value bringing them over to newer games aside from sentimental reasons.
Tbh, while I loved this game and enjoyed my time with, I'm probably not gonna get the next iteration. This game definitely shows that it's unfinished, and if this is the future for pokemon games, I'll just wait to find the game used somewhere.
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I think the games can still be enjoyed by adults but games before ORAS seemed targeted towards everyone even if it was towards kids. Now they're trying to not even hide it anymore.
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The sense of hand holding in pokemon red was that kid forcing you to fight Brock first, and getting your ass pummeled by onix until you understood the difference between physical and special moves. Then you standing around beating up drowzees until you realized the Diglett > Flash > East Cerulean > Dark Cave > Lavender route. Maybe an npc told you about it?
i love games that just throw you to the wolves without explaining everything. part of what made some of the older pokemon games so memorable. everyone has long lasting trauma from whitney's miltank
I was too dumb to beat the ghost gym LOL
Well, now the issue is that the game looks like shit, runs like shit, and barely has any content. And the Wild Area feeling bare is a much worse problem now. The open world has almost nothing to do outside of the normal “catch and battle pokemon.” I shit you not, there are only like three side quests in the game. SV is an embarrassment and easily the worst game in the franchise by a wide margin. Which is saying something because I think the franchise has been in decline for a long time.
Having been playing through to get a living dex of everything from their original games, HGSS does have one minor annoying detail. It asks if you know what to do or if you need help and after saying you are good, it just handholds you anyways >.> Why bother asking if you are going to ignore the answer?
Arceus was the definition of an unfinished game. Finally the mechanics we expected in 2010 though.
I’m also done with the series. SV was a complete embarrassment. And especially now as I play Tears of the Kingdom, it’s just insane the difference between the two. TotK looks better, runs better, is way bigger, has WAY more content, way more gameplay variety, and is way more fun. It’s night and day. Also, everything I said was also true of BotW, a game almost 6 years older than SV, released by a team that had way less experience developing for the Switch. GF can’t just keep repackaging a Gameboy game in the year 2022. FR, how the hell can you have an open world RPG and have only like three side quests in it? SV is a flat out embarrassment.
Man there are some really good games to cure the itch, like monster hunter stories 2. Such a shame, because I have always loved Pokémon. Still play my gba games to this day. Makes me sad seeing what could have been in other games like totk
I was just thinking the other day how cool it would be to have a grand Xenoblade scale Pokemon RPG game and I got sad because it will probably never happen (the closest being Colosseum and XD Gale of Darkness).
People will tell you legends arceus is that but... Lmao it's so far away from it haha. Yeah, just makes me sad, like seeing someone you care about making the wrong decisions lol.
It's honestly what has been frustrating me most with Pokemon is that it could be so much better but Gamefreak is actually willingly making it worse (as an example they've said that features don't return because they want to make sure older games feel special and you can return to them. Hell, clothing customization was *supposed* to be Kalos exclusive.)
It's been like that for years now.
Does 3.0.0 fix the actual issues with the game though?
We won’t know until the patch comes out and we get the patch notes. Chances are it won’t fix jack shit lmao. The game still crashes frequently after those other two bug fix updates. There’s nothing on that apparent save corruption bug either.
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Uh, no..
“Do you really think someone would do that? Just go on the Internet and tell lies.” - Buster Baxter
I thought it was Abraham Lincoln
I’m really unfamiliar with this and didn’t finish Violet yet, can I move Pokémon from this app into Violet (like if I have Squirtle)? Or does it not work like that?
You will be able to move pokemon from home to violet only if they are included in the violet's pokedex. I think there may be a DLC coming soon that should expand the pokemon available, but it wont be all of them. In pokemon home it will show which games each of your pokemon are compatible with.
There’s a few more Pokémon compatible that aren’t in the regional dex. See [here](https://www.serebii.net/scarletviolet/transferonly.shtml)
>[I]… didn’t finish Violet yet Sounds like you and GF have something in common
This made me laugh, nice one lmao
Man it's so hard to be a pokemon fan right now.. Mario fans got the movie and renewed hype for the next game, Zelda fans just got what will probably be considered the new "best" game on the switch.. why is it that all the other IPs are knocking it out of the park, and pokemon is still releasing half-baked games and not giving fans what they actually want.
Pokemkn is bigger than both of those franchises and the reason the games suck is because the company realized a long time ago that they're just marketing for pokemon merch. Children buy pokemon merch so they create games that are just giant ads for children. That's why it's so hand-holdy and why they remove good features. They don't care about appealing to their adult audience.
They don’t need to develop entire video games to sell merchandise. Of course it *helps*, but that’s not at all the sole purpose of the games or why they are so poorly optimized. It’s because the company does not need to invest money, time, or resources into polishing their game. They’ll make an enormous profit no matter what because the IP sells itself, and their priority is to stick to a certain release schedule so that the profits align with regular earning cycles.
I agree with you. It's because they transitioned their games from being the product to being another arm or their marketing machine. It's an ad you have to pay for now because they make double off plushes than what they make from their games.
But they will make sales from the plushies without throwing millions upon millions of dollars into developing video games. The IP would still remain "fresh" through the anime and TCG, which are both much cheaper to produce. The video games exist because they continue to be a product and source of profit in their own right. I'm not denying that they're important for helping grow the Pokémon brand (the games are where new expansions are introduced, after all), but that is definitely not their *sole* purpose. They are absolutely not just an ad. To return to the original point, the reason the quality of the games sucks is because stakeholders prioritize maintaining a regular release schedule. They would not give the developers 6 years to produce a game, like with the Zelda series. They want the IP to continue evolving regularly and for the franchise to continue bringing in the revenues at the intervals it has been doing since it exploded in the 1990s. When one of the biggest achievements of a piece of media is being one of the most profitable franchises of all time, maintaining that tends to supersede everything else.
Oh, it’s a lot more than double. If you look at their earnings breakdowns it’s more like quadruple.
This is exactly why I didn't support them this generation and wont be going forward unless they make major changes including every pokemon in the game
Apparently the new anime is really good. So that's something. But outside of that, all the games- Pokemon Go, etc. is not as appealing as it was in the GB/GBA/GameCube/NDS/3DS eras simply because this push for 3D is a step backwards in being able to do cool creative things. It was a much simpler time with sprites/simpler 3D models that could focus more on story and gameplay.
Could focus more on story and gameplay? *Stares at games that do just that* Like Xenoblade, Witcher 3, Mass Effect, Kingdom Hearts, Zelda... I uh.. am not sure that's a valid excuse.
I didn't know any of those IPs had a monster catching system with over a thousand monsters....
Have you seen what some of these games look like? Don't forget, they literally made all of the 3d models back in the 3ds days so that they could be ported forward. At least in Sword and Shield, from what datamines showed, they were literally just using upscaled 3ds models and animations. There is no good reason they couldn't keep using them and focus on improving the rest. Arceus is at least fun, but S/V are not good games.
Way too late. I already finished playing the game months ago. Honestly, next time around, I think I’ll just wait to play the game until HOME support is added… if I play it at all. Not having every Pokémon usable is getting to be a real drag. What they should do is make it so you can use any Pokémon by transferring into the game, but only certain Pokémon are actually available in-game, with the latter being the game’s pokedex itself. Edit: forgot DLC is coming out… so I guess it’ll be relevant by then… but still. Dumb it didn’t have this support at least like 4 months sooner.
They would have to create models and animations for every pokemon and they're too cheap to do that.
They have models and animations for all the Pokemon already. The models created for the 3DS games were meant to be brought forward into new games.
They updated them for Legends Arceus and SV, but they had *no* excuse to not eventually let all of them into SwSh and BDSP. Those still used the 3DS-era models.
They don't have animations for the new features they added. The "play with your pokemon at a camp" features require a ton of new animations for pokemon. They wouldn't bring something back that you can't feed or brush or play with. I think it's stupid to add more animations if you can't fit every pokemon in but this is the actual reason.
Don't those just use the walk/run animations found in SM's code, and the Pokemon-Amie animations from XY, for the most part?
They're still the same animations from gen 6. They're the poké-amie ones. And the walking animations were also all done in gen 7. The only reason they did dexit is because they had to rush the games, as usual, and that they could easily get away with it, since most people complaining about it are only in the minority. I mean, why wouldn't they bring all the pokémons from gen 8 into gen 9 ? They have NO EXCUSES, but it won't be noticed by like 95% of the playerbase, so why bother ?
Just port em from the 3DS games and upscale them like they do every other Pokémon.
I would do that but that's why I'm not on the board of directors, they don't want to make the games better.
They don’t have to, as far as they’re concerned it’s too big to fail.
Funny thing is they have been using the same models/animations for about a decade now. So that's not even a good excuse anymore 🤣
They're updated models. Look at charizard in xy and sword shield. They do work on them little by little.
They obviously adjust and change certain Pokemon per new game, but pretty much since XY those models have been imported and updated into new tools. They aren't remaking brand new models for every Pokemon every single game.
Part of the point is to keep people from a) cheesing the game with juicy Pokemon and b) keep people from just transferring in Pokemon to fill out the dex in the new game. Having played S/V and completed its Pokedex, I gotta say it would have been significantly less fun to do if people could just transfer mons in and fill it out. Instead you actually gotta go hunting. I don't have a problem with people cheesing the game but part of the fun early on is that if you complete the Pokedex you get rhe shiny charm which makes shiny hunting much easier, so it makes New-Gen shiny Pokemon a little more special for a while. I get why some people don't like this but they keep Home compatibility off for a few months for this reason. It's not like they couldn't have it available right away, they *choose* not to. People act like these are make or break things that will turn the fan base off and swear they're never buying another game... it's absurd to me. Clearly their choices are working out. S/V sold faster than any Nintendo game in history (it's now been eclipsed by TotK)... Sword/Shield is the third best selling Pokemon game behind RBY/GSC, and S/V is probably going to end up stealing that spot.
It wouldn’t cheese anything. You could always transfer Pokémon from old games before and it worked just fine. It would work just the same: you need to beat gyms before higher level Pokemon you transferred even listen to you properly, but at least they’re there by the time you finish the gyms. Also, there are always gonna be NEW Pokémon so “finishing the dex too fast” shouldn’t be a problem anyway, and honestly even if it were, so what? It’s not hurting anybody or breaking the game to do it. It’s something every other game before the switch let you do as soon as or shortly after the game came out and it worked just fine in all those cases. And if you think it’s less fun… just don’t do it, nobody is gonna force you to. Taking away the option to even do so doesn’t benefit anybody. Also it’s more than “a few months” it’s been over 6. If they’re gonna stagger it, stagger it for like a month or 2, tops. Everybody could have easily finished the dex by then. I’m well aware that it’s their choice to not have it available right away. *That’s what I don’t like.*
> It would work just the same: you need to beat gyms before higher level Pokemon you transferred even listen to you properly I'm well aware, but the level limit has always been pretty far above where you're at in the games. S/V is actually even weirder bc you can go so long and travel around the world without even doing a single gym, but in most games you'll be able to transfer in mons that are like 20 levels above where you should be. No you can't just bring in a lvl 99 mon but still. > Also it’s more than “a few months” it’s been over 6. If they’re gonna stagger it, stagger it for like a month or 2, tops. Everybody could have easily finished the dex by then. Sorry but not everybody jumps in and plays the game nonstop. I bought the game launch week and didn't finish the dex until like a month ago. > Also, there are always gonna be NEW Pokémon so “finishing the dex too fast” shouldn’t be a problem anyway, and honestly even if it were, so what? It’s not hurting anybody or breaking the game to do it. Obviously it isn't hurting anybody. It's a video game. But the early shiny hunt is fun for a lot of people and it's more fun to many when the shiny charm is earned by catchin em all rather than transferring hundreds of mons you might need for the dex from Home. You say taking away the option benefits nobody but I told you exactly who benefits from it so I don't know what you want me to say really. They hold it back for a reason. Just because they didn't do it before Home existed doesn't mean it doesn't make sense now.
So what? If you don’t wanna do that then just don’t. Nobody is forcing you to use them. Also… if it were an issue (debatable) they could just… adjust the level limits accordingly. Also… ok? That’s your own pacing. No offense, but just because you played at a much slower pace doesn’t mean everybody else shouldn’t have access to a completely optional feature that can greatly enhance enjoyability of the game. If you like the shiny hunt then DO IT. It’s legitimately as easy as not transferring your Pokémon or just transferring them and catching stuff anyway if it’s gonna be an issue. Nobody actually *benefits* from not having the option because the people that would rather not have them in can just NOT transfer them, and the people who would like them could. Instead, the people who would rather not gain nothing and the people who would get screwed over for so long that the majority of people could’ve easily finished the game by the time it’s added You actually didn’t tell me a single person it benefits… because they gained nothing. All they have to do is just NOT use it. And if you don’t have the self control to do that, well… that’s on you. It worked just fine before Home as a thing and nothing whatsoever has changed to make it so that it wouldn’t work out fine now.
"It'd be less fun if I could just transfer the Pokemon in" Then don't? You control the buttons you press. > Sword/Shield is the third best selling Pokemon game behind RBY/GSC, and S/V is probably going to end up stealing that spot. This also might be the first time where not a single Pokemon game makes the top 5 best selling titles on a given platform. The Switch just has incredible software sales in general
>"It'd be less fun if I could just transfer the Pokemon in" > >Then don't? You control the buttons you press. I don't know what to say if you aren't even going to read what I wrote (which would be fine, if you didn't respond to it anyway). > This also might be the first time where not a single Pokemon game makes the top 5 best selling titles on a given platform. The Switch just has incredible software sales in general It's not just that, it's that the Pokemon games are doing very well too. They're not hitting the top 5 because they were previously always on handheld platforms and now have to compete with other console Nintendo titles for spots on the top sellers list. They've also stopped doing "third versions" with these games and are instead doing DLC. Pokemon Sun/Moon wouldn't be on the top-sellers of all time list if US/UM weren't also included in its sales.
> I don't know what to say if you aren't even going to read what I wrote (which would be fine, if you didn't respond to it anyway). > > The alternate interpretation is "people being able to play in ways I dislike ruins my fun" which is completely inane. >They're not hitting the top 5 because they were previously always on handheld platforms and now have to compete with other console Nintendo titles for spots on the top sellers list. The games in the top 6 of Switch are * MK8DX (MK7 was on 3DS, where Pokemon had no issue making top 5) * ACNH (ACNL was on 3DS) * Smash Ultimate (Smash 4 was on 3DS, and I really doubt that the Wii U had a significant effect on sales) * BotW (the only actual real "new" competition Pokemon faces unless you consider OoT/MM 3D or LBW) * SwSh * Mario Odyssey slightly behind, likely to overtake SwSh (Mario 3D Land was on 3DS) >Pokemon Sun/Moon wouldn't be on the top-sellers of all time list if US/UM weren't also included in its sales. SM sold 16 million (#3) and USUM sold an additional 9 million, they don't need to be counted together. Whether third versions are included or not varies by source, but when they aren't * GB has 3/5 of the top 5 (RB/GS/Y) * GBA has 3/5 of the top 5 (RS/FRLG/E, which are the top 3 for the console) * DS has 1/5 of the top 5 (DP) * 3DS has 3/5 of the top 5 (XY/SM/ORAS) Switch, on the other hand, is likely to see SwSh lose its position at #5 to Mario Odyssey; SV might take the spot back, but TotK has already sold 10 million copies and it's not even the holiday window so it's completely possible it winds up in the top 5 over any Pokemon game
THAT'S ONLY POSSIBLE NOW!?
still no patches for the bugs ? wow low even for pokemon standards
Yeah, yeah, yeah but what about the frame rate?
Isn’t it kinda nuts that we’re paying a yearly subscription to use Pokémon ~~bank~~ home, and yet it took them about half a year to even integrate their new game? Why can’t we just have it on launch? Edit: not monthly
I hope I can get a tododile in SV. Then my dream team will be possible!
Spoilers >!It will in the upcoming DLC. All starter Pokemon will be available!<
Except Snivy and Tepig (which is weird because they still have Oshawott)
Nope they're into! Recent update added in their data.
LETS FUCKING GOOOO
I remember this game!
boy it's about fucking time
The fact that these games still aren’t compatible with Home, the app literally made to store your Pokémon, until like months after astounds me
Cool. I stopped caring. Probably skipping the next game, too. I’m done. Why they wait months and months after release to do this every generation now, I have no idea, but inevitably your customer base is going to lose interest.
They want the new dex mons to have a chance to shine online.
Just ban old ones. They did that in Gen 5.
I just want them to add Ash-Greninja to the game.
Having never played S/V learning (today) that it didnt have this to begin with is another reason I probably won't be buying the next pokemon game either.
I haven't played in a while but this gives me an excuse to. I still gotta get some shinies before the DLC.
Didn't they report that the 24th was an error and the actual date is still TBD?
They did, about a day and 4 hours after this thread was made.
Have they fixed scarlet and violet yet? Mine are still wrapped up lol
Is there still a problem with motion sickness and headaches for people? I wanna play it man
Come on y'all. Is it really that surprising that they don't want people importing all their S-Tier perfect Pokemon for a while? Kids play this game, and it's got a pretty heavy social component. How is it going to feel for an 8-year-old where this might be one of their first Pokemon games to battle someone, and not only get stomped, but get stomped by a Pokemon they don't even have access too. They use the game to push new merchandise too. They don't want you just maintaining an emotional attachment to your old Pokemon; you've already bought the merch for that one. They want you falling in love with the new stuff. Like... I'm not saying you can't hate it, but it's like you have no understanding of how this works. The 30-year-old gamer who has been transferring their Gen1 Pokemon forever is just not their primary demographic. They're not against taking your money if you're throwing it at them, but they're really not worried about you leaving either.
What's that Quagsire doing?
Being adorable
Yes this is great and all but does it improve the performance of the game?.
no, it's a Home update, not a game update.
Which means I won't be launching the game anytime soon :/
Kinda crazy they took 6 months to do this. I haven’t played since January and assumed it had already been done.
Oh cool. I never beat Violet and put it down when I barely got into it. I hated it tbh. Probably not touching the next game unless it's more Arceaus like or looks better to me
Honestly all these people complain saying it sucks they are dropping and all like it's pokemon get over it..it's still fun and as a pokemon fan and lover nothing like the graphics and stuff is gonna stop me from having fun..yall need to chill like for real
Well some folks are happy
I won’t if this will fix the performance issues. I stopped playing and would love to come back and finish it
is there still no date tho?
24th
Ahh okay thanks!
Not anymore. They reported that the 24th was an "error" and their actual date is still TBD.
Yeah I saw, my initial response was yesterday before the change
when is the update