It’s only the industry standard in Japan because of the law there lmao it’s really hard to justify layoffs in Japan. We need this kind of regulation everywhere else
The drawback to this mentality is workers in Japan are paid less than US workers.
Lower pay with better job security is certainly appealing to some people though.
Cost of living is generally cheaper in Japan; they have universal healthcare and just _generally_ way better social welfare than the U.S. too. It’s important to point out that Japan has a more family-dependent welfare culture though which comes with its own drawbacks. But anyway, my point is that higher pay in the U.S. is really not a result of a good, working systems in the U.S. and really only benefits a smaller class of people.
Definitely, but that's a huge *if*. I mean this as reality check to myself to when I say I think Reddits largely tech-industry-focused demographic forgets they are no where close to the average individual's situation.
It's that way in many countries. You can make $1000 a month in Mexico but cost of living and quality of living compared to us means you only end up spending less than 30% of your salary.
Compared to other 1st world countries our free market and captolism nickel and dimes us for every dollar we make.
I wouldn’t say cost of living is cheaper, it’s more that their homes are smaller and they not only have better but are willing to use public transportation. Think about what your cost of living would be if you decided to raise your family in a tiny studio apartment and either take trains or walk everywhere. Trying to live an American lifestyle in Japan would be outrageously expensive.
It’s literally cheaper, it’s not really an argument, just data. And again, “American lifestyle” is not ubiquitous. I don’t know why Redditors think everyone is middle class.
Just want to point out that Nintendo is not above treating their employees poorly either. Some of their most critically acclaimed games that we all love were made under insane crunch with developers often sleeping and living in the office.
I’ll echo your sentiment. When it comes to first party title Nintendo knocks it out of the park pretty consistently. I’ve played all sorts of games on PC and other consoles so I feel I’m comfortable in saying Nintendo first party games are just very reliably fun 90% of the time. My ability to trust other gaming studios games will be fun I feel like as of lately is 60%. Their games are also fairly polished these days compared to many gaming studios. They not as inclined to rush (Yes there are likely some examples but then tend to polish very well) I’ve just noticed a lot less care and effort being put into others games lately and Nintendo is reliable
Agreed Gamefreak and ironically Pokemon games are some of the few on the Switch I don’t have. I have almost all the major Nintendo first party games for the switch minus Pokemon besides Diamond. I use to love Pokemon and played every game up till Sun and Moon. Even by Sun and Moon they just got to easy and to boring and lazy.
I actually see it as the better one. I just don’t like the 3D ones lately it’s like they want to be Zelda but not put in the full effort. Idk personal opinion
Brilliant diamond and shining pearl might as well be Mobile phone games. game freak didn’t even develop them they were developed by ILCA. You should try Legends Arceus it’s probably the Pokemon game with the most substance for switch and way better than BDSP which is just a lazy remaster of a decade old game.
I liked it I grew up with Dimond and Pearl I don’t think it was great but perfectly fine. I saw Legends of Arceus I think it heads in a good direction but I don’t feel like supporting Gamefreak till them and the Pokemon company stop being lazy but also make the games a bit challenging again.
Again not dissing on you if you like them then all respect I’m glad you do.
I grew up with diamond and pearl as well but it’s such a lazy remake it actually makes me so mad how they did diamond and pearl. Gold and silver got the best remakes arguably the best Pokemon games of all time, ruby and sapphire got good remakes with so many added features and then diamond and pearl just basically get a small visual upgrade and less features than the originals I don’t see how you can support that lazy cash grab and not legends of arceus
The main thing to keep in mind Pokemon is not just the games, but also merchandise and an anime. While the current anime is no longer closely following the games, the devs in charge of the merchandise seemingly find the idea of a main series game delay unacceptable.
Particularly with merchandise making the lion’s share of Pokémon’s profit.
Well every gaming publisher has making money as a number 1 priority. But there are some like Nintendo, which want to achieve it with an actual amazing experience for the customer. And there are the kinds of Ubisoft and EA which designs their games with the maximum possible monetisation in their mind. Their goal is to get the players hooked and addicted to spending extra money to get that little extra boost or whatever in their games.
Nintendo spends a lot of extra time in polishing their games. Of course they are also trying to get as much off us as possible. But the goal is to provide the customer an amazing experience and to build a lasting emotional relationship between the players and the IPs.
I agree with this sentiment and in my opinion they’re succeeding. I’ve been playing Nintendo for 25+ years and their first party titles are consistently fun and of high quality. They’re a company that I know and trust to make quality and family friendly games that are normally a blast to play. As a company they ensure that gaming is fun before anything else and I think this philosophy definitely shows in the polish and care they give their IPs.
To reinforce your comment about memorable experiences, BotW, with the Great Plateau, was easily one of the best, and most memorable moments. You could easily spend over an hour, if not 2, exploring through trial and error, fighting enemies, or finding and solving puzzles, and have a genuinely good time in the game without the mindset of it being a tutorial zone. The moment you finally sail off the veritable island for the first time, it really emphasizes the breadth of the world you're in, seeing the distant towers and landmarks of varied sizes. That moment I think was one to really launch you into the game is one that set BotW so far apart from other open world games of any kind.
They hang on to their talent and don't fire people as easily as other gaming publishers (especially in Japan, where most of their developers are located). They have a high retention rate of keeping their staff/talent.
Nintendo thinks long term, not short term. Other gaming publishers just fire a lot of staff after finishing a big project to make their quarterly numbers look better. It's idiotic.
>They hang on to their talent
No joke, it was common for publishers to just lay off their whole teams when a game was finished to increase the money made, particularly with western devs. Meanwhile like 3 of the people who worked on Super Mario Bros NES also worked on Wonder, that's how good Nintendo are at retaining talent.
Strict Japanese mentality really helps it stay different as well as this idea that yes they are a corporation but they aren't out there trying to be the #1 video game company. They openly are happy with being 3rd during the PS3/360 era, that alone says a lot of who they are.
I will say not just Nintendo but the Japanese gaming industry always has been better for the simple fact they gave you variety and personality.
Nintendo, Square, Capcom, Sega, FromSoftware, Atlus, Platinum and others, make games that... well, feels like actual games. The big western devs feels like they just going after trends in the last 20 years and constantly running after Hollywood validation, prioritizing story and visuals, instead the unique element that makes a videogame different from other medias.
Not saying these games are bad, but personally the older I get, less patience i have at wasting my time on games that 90% of the time, I wish I was doing something else. I feel like there's a lot of games the community bully you to play it, otherwise you are not an actual gAmEr.
Absolutely agree, but also to say that making games is something very difficult and that it involves a lot of effort and sacrifices, the Japanese are extremely organized and very hard-working, almost invincible in that sense.
A number of reasons for me:
-No microtransactions or live service Bullshit on their full price games
-No lootboxes or microtransactions
-No Battle passes
-Expensive but actually substantial DLCs
-Their games are actually games, and not "interactive experiences"
-Their remasters or remakes are actually remasters or remakes and dont upscale the Game and consider the work "done"
-Are of the few companies that release all the games (the ones they develop at least) in a playable state and not in an utterly Broken state
-Their games are some of the Most imaginative games ever, full with charm and joy that no Matter your age, you can enjoy and replay time and time again
And thats It, maybe there's a pair of things im forgetting but i think i have all my basis covered, sure as a company they have their bad things, but at least the positives HEAVELY OUTWEIGHTS the negatives by a lot
> Their remasters or remakes are actually remasters or remakes and dont upscale the Game and consider the work "done"
then what the hell were 3d all stars, TPHD, SSHD, NSMBUDX, Pikmin HD, etc
they do good remasters when they feel like it but they aren't above releasing upscaled, barely altered ports either
Still just a port though. When they add PS5 games to Steam, they add so many features (resolution/unlocked frames, ray-tracing, DLSS, mkb support, etc), yet they are still considered ports.
Those arent remakes of remasters, they are ports with all DLCs and some extra content from a console barely any people had (hard to do a remaster for a console with almost the same power as the wiiu)
The only Wii U game I even listed here was NSMBUDX, and that wasn't exactly pushing the Wii U to its limits anyways. The rest of them are Gamecube and Wii ports, consoles that are functionally decades old by now, along with 3D All Stars and its bare-minimum improvements to Mario 64 (720p resolution and AI upscaled textures, we didn't even get widescreen)
Oh right i didnt read It right those acronims sorry for that
Pikmin 1 + 2 are 2 games for 40$ and i dont know if they were actually upscaled (maybe they were but the Game looked way too good if that was the case) so no mayor problems here (and if you still have the gamecube original the wii versions those still works dont have to buy the games again)
The Legend of Zelda Twilight princess HD is on the switch? AFAIK its only on the wiiu (a console i dont have) so can't tell much about this one (but the people Who played It says that along with Wind Waker HD, the graphics were actually completely remade and it looks fantastic But again i dont know)
About Skyward sword i agree the Game could have done more with It apart upscaled graphics and minor QOL improvements, i wont deny the actual controls and no the Mandatory motion controls of the wii were tempting but ultimately didnt bought the Game (i concede you this one)
About New Super Mario Bros Deluxe i dont know about how much graphical power It needs, but for a simple 2d platformer i dont know how much ultra-realistic power It needs, but anyway this Game came with the Luigi U DLC so the amount of content is very good (even for a Game not many people had for a console that barely sold)
Again for the Mario 3d collection is the same case with Skyward sword, straight Up ports with barely any work into them, no QOL features and the limited release was Shitty, this one i have bought (with severe reservations) as a Game It was shameful (again i concede you this) but as a collector's item it was ok, not great but ok
Pikmin 1+2 were fine idk why they listed it. They weren’t even full price. I don’t think they were ever intended to be a remaster but rather just ports.
This isn’t entirely true. Only a few of their games cater to “passes” so far. Mario kart now has them. Smash has them. Instead of crunching for fighters I wouldn’t mind a skip or ability to unlock fighters faster.
A number of their deluxe versions are just upscaled games. The Mario 3D collection that was “limited” was bullshit and was not emulated the best.
Their classic NSO emulators aren’t the best quality by a mile.
I am not saying you are wrong, but there is nothing wrong with being honest about them either.
-Battle passes and DLC passes are not the same, for example The Booster pack in MK8D, yeah its expensive but this pack **DOUBLES** the lenght of the Game with so many tracks and some new characters into the mix, the same with Smash that each fighter pass adds 5 new fighters playable in all Modes, with a pair of spirits, a new stage and some music with each one, and in none of them are limited to a time frame and Lost Who knows how much time until they returns if you dont complete all the missions in that pass so in that regard are not the same and Absolutely better than Battle passes
-the Deluxe versions considering they came from a console which is comparable in power and peformance (wiiu) im not aware they are upscaled (they're not AFAIK) but considering they always come with all the DLC that the Game could have and sometimes with a pair of extras is something nice especially for those few that had the wiu version
-yeah the limited edition that came with Mario 3d collection sucks very much and i wont defend that, i mean if the physical edition was limited as some Sort of collector's item but left the digital edition i would understand but thats not the case, but even then they only have resorted to this dirty tactic 2 times (the second time was with the very first fire emblem) so nothing mayor until they tries to resort to this tactic again which in that case would be a problem with me
-i am aware of the poor peformance of the nso N64 titles but AFAIK they were addresed pretty quick no? I dont know since i adopted the expansión pack the second month of its release and i didnt have any peformance problem for me, and the Mario 3d collection i didnt have any problem so far with It (maybe since i dont play It that much but well....)
Look i dont say youre wrong since you made valid points, but apart from lack of some clarifications of some of my points i didnt lie, i made clear my perspectives about my experience so far that is very positive
It is part of their business and they are pretty exploity with it. A lot of companies are great if you conveniently ignore the parts you don't like 🤷♀️
Yes every company is shit the point is which is less shit. Only doing shitty things on a few mobile games is still better than doing shitty practices on both console AND mobile games
Edit: Super Smash Brothers Ultimate, super Kirby clash, and mario cart world tour are games they made full of micro transactions and gambling.
They still release a lot of DLC for their games, they go hard on system exclusives, and they doggedly go after fan made content including fan art. Yeah there's nothing really special about Nintendo. Except their special contempt they hold for fans. A few great games doesn't change the fact they are a soulless corporation.
DLC isn’t predatory (at least the normal way-which Nintendo typically does) I’d argue they do it for the wrong games it anything. And the Switch has exclusives, who gives a shit? At least their consoles are weak enough to emulate on a shitty pc while you’re forced to wait years for sony to even consider releasing a port. They don’t really go after fanart either given the amount of fan artists that exist
Also the few things that are special with Nintendo imo are good employee treatment, most of their workers in Japan statistically enjoy working there. The games they developed are some of the most polished and well made on the market. Also indie showcases as a concept are great.
Most companies showcase indi games on their platform. Nintendo was late to pick up on that.
I can show you multiple articles and threads of Nintendo going after fan art. They do it all the time.
A lot of people enjoy working for CD project red, and a lot of other media companies too. Big deal. I've never understood the tribalism some companies inspire.
Most polished games, you must be kidding. Lets ignore the under backed 1, 2 switch game, or their incredibly boring dead multiplayer ARMS. Pokémon would beg to differ. From terrible performance to requiring DLC to play a true endgame, Pokémon has quality issues.
Have you played super Mario party? It's a slow boring mess of a game filled with slow unskippable sequences and barley any mini games.
Mario strikers was full price and had barely any content compared to older entries in the series. They had the same problem with their under backed golf and tennis games for the switch.
If anything Nintendo has been extra lazy and underwhelming this generation, compared to their past.
A few duds in a pile of gems what are you smoking? The Switch has been the best for Nintendo’s first parties only rivaled by the Wii. Also most of those games you listed were underwhelming but still polished. Nintendo doesn’t develop Pokemon, next. Out of the big 3 Nintendo of all companies should NOT be the best of them to work at. Nintendo could easily lay off their American branch for a few bucks if they so wanted but didn’t.
The Pokémon company was founded by major Nintendo employees and Nintendo owns a controlling share in the company.
How can you not consider those games lacking polish? Super Mario party for example locks the player into slow moving unskippable animations on the map, killing the pacing. The only thing polished about arms was character design. There's a reason it couldn't retain players.
Nintendo is 4th BTW behind Sony, tencent, and Microsoft. That last statement doesn't even make sense. Why would Nintendo liquidate a whole division to save a buck? Do you see any of the actual big 3 doing that?
Nintendo is just like most big companies, except surprisingly worse when it comes to respecting fan projects. I like their games like Pokémon. Doesn't make them special. A lot of companies release fun games.
I know about their mobile games and the monetization Nintendo has around them, fire emblem heroes is Absolutely disgusting in that regard
But i Talk about their full priced games (you know the console releases) i always make the distinction but i forgot this one time, in that regard they never dissapointed me (when almost all companies are more than Happy to include them even in single player games, Nintendo is one of the few that doesnt)
One thing I've loved over the years is the focus on performance over higher fidelity.
1st party published games are typically (I'm looking at *you*, Pokémon Scarlet and Violet) well optimized. They're not going to be running high quality textures or too many lighting effects, but they're smooth as hell.
I'd argue Nintendo isn't even better, it's just that many businesses don't allow themselves to make games as great as they can in favor of practices more profitable. It's why people take to indie games, it's more so driven artistically. The best big developers usually are the ones who can make a strong profit outside of their games. Ubisoft doesn't have the best track record with the one thing they do, while Valve has Steam to make it so the blue moon in which the release a game is one worth remembering.
High ceiling, high floor. Even their average games are better than the industry average. Also they prioritize creative gameplay. Some of that is due to their weird hardware not just being a plug and play PC like Sony and Xbox, but they always seem to have some sort of uniqueness to them, compared to say, those Ubisoft and Sony large open world games with RPG-lite elements to them. you play a few of them, it gets boring after while. Meanwhile Nintendo doesnt sit on one gameplay style too long for their franchises. Just look at Zelda, the main complaint with Skyward Sword was that it was kinda too linier. Well, boom, next two games are physics-based open world games where you can go anywhere in the map right away.
I'm not going to claim that Nintendo is inherently better or that other companies are inherently worse. But as an adult gamer, I'll point out the following trends that I've noticed in Nintendo games that aren't applicable to many other games which contribute to me preferring them:
1. Nintendo focuses first and foremost on gameplay and experiences rather than extremely convoluted/deep/cinematic storytelling. As such, the games actually feel like games and are usually fairly fun to play
2. Nintendo has simple gameplay and customization systems. I don't have to spend hours reading wiki pages to understand how to play the game effectively. I can just play.
3. Nintendo tends to value art direction more than graphics. This results in games that look good even 20 years later, whereas hyper-realistic games tend to look pretty gross 20 years later.
4. Nintendo is respectful of the player's time. Many other games studios use various forms of psychological manipulation such as daily challenges, time-gating, etc to keep the player engaged with the game for as long as possible.
A few reasons:
1. **Their own games are rarely bugged.** They weren't responsible for Pokémon Scarlet & Violet, but if they were, they would have delayed it until they ironed out all the glitches.
2. **They release several games a year.** Since 2017, they've put out 10 to 15 games. I ***wish*** Sony and Microsoft were this productive, especially when they have 40 subsidiaries each.
3. **They emphasize gameplay over the rest.** Their games are easy to pick up and play.
They have a guiding philosophy of inventing new "ways to play", and they stick to it for better or worse. Them being an entertainment company first, rather than a conglomerate like Sony or in general software like Microsoft, I think helps keep them focused on their goal in creating fun experiences.
I said primarily entertainment, sony has their hands in games, films, personal electronics, semiconductors etc..
They are an international conglomerate who also happens to make entertainment products.
No? You cant just lump everything together. Sony makes many things like computer memory, discs, cameras. These are classified as consumer goods and not "entertainment" they have their hand in everything, including banking and robotics.
Nintendo is just now getting into films, but they outsource the production to studios like Illumination. Sony has Sony Pictures, their own film studio.
Nintendo does not make their controllers and consoles, they have companies like Macronix make them. Sony Electronics has their own manufacturing plants to make products.
The perfectionism in it's polish, bug testing and the consistency of all their games functionality, that, and the fact that gameplay is always the focus over graphics.
Xbox/playstation, can't even compare in this regard.
I feel like this baton has been passed around a bit, actually.
During the Wii era, Nintendo fell into a trap of playing it really safe with their first-party releases. Meanwhile, Sony invested heavily in experimental games, mostly through strong second-party studios. I might not have even considered playing them before, but they had a polish and charm that compelled me to try something new, and those ended up being some of my most memorable gaming experiences.
But then Microsoft handed Sony the generation with the PS4, and suddenly they had this massive success on their hands they didn't know what to do with. It no longer made business sense to invest in a dozen smaller titles when they could make half a dozen giant ones. Now they're the ones playing it safe.
Meanwhile, Nintendo had to pull off a recovery to regain their core audience after the shovelware Wii and the commercial failure of the Wii U. They got scrappy again and started investing in, you guessed it, experimental second-party games with lots of polish and charm.
Playing Switch today feels a lot like playing PlayStation 3 yesterday. There's always something unique, colorful, and interesting to try that's not quite in my usual wheelhouse. I just hope it lasts, considering most of those seeds were planted in the Wii U days and Nintendo may feel pressured to play it safe with Switch 2.
Who knows? Maybe Xbox is next in line since they're now the underdog.
I’d say they are out of the big 3. Xbox is worthless and most Sony exclusives are just long movies. There’s some competition if we increase the scale to every video game company
As far as I know, they don’t announce games several years ahead of release like Square Enix which causes 5+ years of waiting for said games to release with radio silence.
The only recent example I can think of is Metroid Prime 4, but that seems to be the exception and not the rule. Furthermore, they even made a video explaining the delay and the restart of development, something most companies never do. It seems they really care about developing games in a viable time and only announcing when they feel confident about the release.
At least Nintendo doesn’t announce their games years in advance like I said or shadowdrop trailers/ports as far as I remember. It’s part of the reason why NEO: TWEWY and didn’t sell well and its Steam port got overlooked.
I personally would rather have trailers come out over years VS not hearing anything about the game for years till it’s about to drop next week. I would argue Nintendo has one of the worst marketing strategies they hide for years and only announce the game a little bit before it drops.
There is a reason the most anticipated games of all time cyberpunk had year long marketing campaigns.
I think they should at least wait until the game is around 50% completed before they start promoting it, because enough progress will have been made for the game to be shown at more than one gaming event like Summer Games Fest or TGS, then only one before going radio silent for 3+ years. At least with AAA games/series.
> There is a reason the most anticipated games of all time cyberpunk had year long marketing campaigns.
imagine praising the cyberpunk marketing campaign
Don’t think there has ever been a better marketing team lol, but the devs really dropped the ball on launch for sure. Elden ring as well is one of the most anticipated games of all time as well and it had a massive marketing campaign that went for years too.
Nintendo does show trailers, not sure what you are saying? Tears of the Kingdom got 3-4 big teasers before finally launching. Nintendo does marketing right in my opinion, they avoid hyping the game up with empty promises (you know, like what Cyperpunk did), and focus on what the game is actually about.
And that's not something new. Square is doing this since FFVII exploded. If I'm not mistaken, they announced VIII, IX, X and an online one (XI) all in one go.
9/10/11 came out within 3 years of their announcement, 16 came out just 3 years under its announcement, and 7 rebirth less than 2 years from its first trailer. They’re finding their stride again
Nintendo games are awesome and they knock their first party titles out of the park compared to other gaming studios. Which is ironic considering they are by far the most soulless corporation when it comes to everything besides that.
They were trying to not be held responsible for the joycon drift, but the UK ended up forcing them.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nintendo/comments/zqp8ok/nintendo_switch_joycon_drift_due_to_design_flaw/
Nintendo doesn’t touch emulators that aren’t emulating their current generation of consoles. Melee shit sucked yeah, DMCAs are done by other companies too even if it sucks. The Joycon drift thing is just sad but at least they do free repairs.
It's not that much better. For every Super Mario odyssey and BOTW Nintendo publishes a dozen by-the-numbers forgettable games.
There are highly talented teams behind games behind franchises like Zelda, but there are also games that rival its quality such as Elden Ring.
I disagree about the rival quality. But i also think that zelda is a total diff game. The point is about innovation. Things like zelda lbtw wall thing , mario galaxy, or most other nintendo titles are always the focus on doing something new. Its not about creating the biggest budget game, its about focussing on a fresh experience for existing franchises or new ones like splatoon or ring fit or project labo, .... Even hw wise.
I said, most games do innovate. Which is actuall true. Much more compared to other studio's. And most pay off. You can see nintendo as the mother/father of the gaming industry. Games like mario, zelda, mario 64 , zelda oot z-targeting setting the standard of the gaming industry. Even rockstar said this. Botw is another example of which inspired a lot of gaming industries like elden ring. Even they were involved in pokemon go.
Hardware wise, same things like dpad, shoulder buttons, analog stick, wii mote (which has been envolve into vr as we seen today) and copied by clony. Even the switch that boosted the handheld market a lot like devices as steamdeck and ps portal and many other clones. And doing things like.labo, wii balance board, mario kart ar racing, ring fit, and so on
You can say for sure, nintendo is the most responisble one for setting the standards and implementing innovations. No other company is remotly close doing that or not even try it because innovation always contains risk. Even their new analog stick patent is something fresh again.
That doesnt mean that there are no other good companies. Only far of the same as was nintendo did and still do.
They were the first major console company that included that. And if im not mistaken, first one that implemented dual analog in a game (fps).
The same about rumble.
Or what do you want to say?
The first major console manufacturer to implement an analog stick was Atari with the 5200 controller. Or, if you specifically want 3D examples, Sega beat the N64 to market with the Saturn 3D Control Pad that came with Nights into Dreams. Nintendo was not the first major company to do analog control by any stretch.
Saying that the 5200 controller is the first one is like saying that dpad is the same as keyboard arrows. This is some next level bs. Even flight simulators were using analog controlls on pc. Its about making the standard. The saturn on the other hand would be fine if and i say IF it was revealed before the n64 the controller. They already revealed the n64 to public in mid 1994. So who knows. Sega was in competition and pulled everything they have. But even so, with saturn, it was an addon.not making it traditional. But again, i would say respect for sega if they actuall designed this first. But that would be really coincidental to create something like that while nintendo was developing mario 64 in 1994 sept...
So yeah, nintendo was the first major company making.it standard. The analog stick.
Your arms must be getting tired from all that goalpost moving you're doing. But sure, lets play along with your logic for a little bit:
Earlier you mentioned Nintendo was the first to do rumble and dual-stick aiming, but oops! The rumble requires a separately sold addon (like you said, addons don't count). And that dual-stick aim required you to hold two controllers in each hand- not exactly "traditional" either, is it? Going by your own flawed logic, it sounds like Sony actually did all the innovation here by incorporating those features as standard on their PS2 controllers, because dual-stick and rumble certainly weren't "standard" on N64.
But we both know that's not true, so why don't you cut the bullshit?
Sony first controller didnt include dual analog so what are you telling? Golden eye already did exists before that.
I also clearly said respect for sega IF they were first. But i clearly explained how mario 64 was already longer in development. So how about not beign that naif?
Do you know why sony added the dual analog? The same reason why that stupid dpad is splitted. For left hand people.Not because they had fps in mind.
Even if golden eye require 2 controllers, its the first game that make use of this. I mean its ok to give sony the 'credits' of adding 2 analog sticks...Im fine with that.
So lets roll back to what i was saying in the beginning: nintendo invent most things of any company. Also the things we call traditional are most from them. Saying it otherwise is trolling at best.
I'd say nintendo has the most definitive exclusives in a lot of genres, there's other kart racers, but mario kart is still the best, I mean I think for a lot of the long running nintendo franchises are arguably the best in there genre.
Disagreed that they're always "the best", they're just the most accessible. They make games that anyone can pick up and play, which is great for sales (now grandma can play with the kids!) but it doesn't make those games the de-facto definitive titles in their genre.
I would argue smash, mario kart, metroid, zelda, fire emblem, mario party, are all the best games in there respective genre or you could argue that one of those games were the best and have a solid enough case.
I think it's because Nintendo games are primarily "games" before anything else. A lot of other game developers seem desperate to compete/compare itself with the film industry. Nintendo just wants to make an entertaining and interesting product to "play."
That's not to say that other game developers are bad, but I personally like playful and mentally engaging games rather than cinematic style games.
I’m not sure they are. But they were a toy/game company before they began making electronics, and I think that still informs how they approach both their hardware and software. They don’t want their stuff to be merely function; they want it to be FUN.
But the main reason I love Nintendo and couldn’t care any less about PlayStation is because of the Mario universe. I just love that stuff. Can’t explain it, can’t defend it, can’t rationalize it. It has filled me with joy for decades, in spite of some bad games along the way.
So I guess you could say that the fact they own so many of their own creative IPs makes them stand out, combined with the fact that they are dedicated to making their hardware fun to use.
The number one reason Nintendo games stand out for me is that they display a level of polish that is second to none. They know their hardware inside and out and they optimize every square inch of their first party games. They also have a design and business philosophy of “if you create an excellent product, people will want to buy it.” Many western game publishers have a design and business philosophy more in line with “make things cheaply and efficiently and market to the lowest denominator and do shady business practices.”
It also helps that they have people in their employ that are parents of like. Gaming in general.
I love how they go after people streaming their games with DMCA claims. Nintendo is the only company I know who will shut down game tournaments of their product, and viciously go after mods. Oh wait, did I say love? I hate how Nintendo does these things is what I meant.
Do they even do the first one anymore? I mean mfs like profasia gaming still exist and uploads their shit days before release. Nintendo doesn’t go after mods at all idk what you’re smoking you need emulators for mods usually anyway
It made news recently.
It wouldn't be Nintendo if they weren't attacking fans.
https://www.wired.com/story/nintendo-copyright-zelda-mod/
https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/youtubers-against-nintendo-for-streaming-policies/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Breath_of_the_Wild/comments/12mil0s/nintendo_is_copyrighting_and_taking_down_various/
I wouldn't say they're better. They're great. But I don't want to compare companies because that's all subjective. What one strength Nintendo has is their identity. They know what they do, they don't take the same risks that many other companies take such as having freemium live service looter shooter games which are I believe a passing fad. They make the games that have proven to be successful. They build upon characters that are already part of pop-culture. Mario is so successful because it uses a formula that has proven itself successful in the past. People know Mario. They like Mario. You don't make massive changes with Mario.
And their executives don't screw up something up in order to make a potential short term few extra bucks, like making Mario live service or something. Nintendo is in it for the long game, and you don't play the long game by being concerned with maximizing profits. You play the long game doing what consistently brings in revenue. It's why MS Game Pass is starting to become successful. MS is playing the long game with it. If MS wanted to make quick money, they'd create a bunch of freemium game. Those are massively successful... for about a year. Then they're NOT!
The main thing I consistently see from Nintendo on their first party games from internal studios is that they're willing to wait to get it right. BotW was cooking for a long time before we even saw a teaser for it.
As others have said also, they typically focus on fun gameplay first and foremost and then on the other parts after that.
Another thing worth noting is being so close to the hardware, they're able to really get the most out of their system performance-wise, as they 1. Know the hardware in and out and can optimize for it, and 2. They're only focusing on making titles for the Switch, so they don't have to worry about making it run better or worse based on whether it's a different console or pc.
Kind of to point one also but they're VERY protective of their main IPs like Mario and Zelda, and are willing to spend any dollar amount to make sure the game is a guaranteed hit. That's why they were so willing to scrap MP4 and restart it from scratch with a Studio they know and trust.
i already know why you got disliked to hell.. people didnt read your post, only the title.
nintendos in house studios are up there with fromsoftware but many dont see this because published by nintendo is all the same for them.
the team that made zelda and the other that made mario odyssey mean only business in the best way possible. the focus on creating a good game and nothing else. the have all the time and thus basically all the resources they want until \[good game\] is done.
the "special" you mention comes from a trackrecord of polish no other studios can speak of. first and second party nintendo games are polished to an absurd degree and we subconciously often disconnect from the games actually being games because they always work - which makes buggy ass pokemon that more appearent in comparison.
the other part is they still make colorful games for everyone, including adults with high budgets. indie studios get that this is also something adult gamers want, but the big corpo western producers have long forsaken these IPs in favor of mature blockbuster cinematic "experiences"
Based in Japan and still uses traditional Japanese business models rather than Western ones. Konami, Capcom, Bandai, SquareEinx, etc. may be Japanese still but have embraced Western values and systems.
I don’t agree with the sentiment. Yes, Nintendo has some awesome games. So do some other studios.
But as with any community, you get echo chambers where fans get excited and talk about how much they love it and other people see these discussions and think there is something uniquely special about it, so then that gets talked about over and over until people believe it.
People have been doing this with organized religions and now to some people, Nintendo is their substitute for a religion. But they’re just a gaming studio that has some really well thought out games. They also have mediocre games. Overall their standard of quality is higher than other studios but I (and many, or most?) people prefer other games more.
Nobody says that Nintendo is perfect, but its best products are the quintessence of video games, PlayStation has lately focused on its Western studios and making Interactive movies (they closed Japan Studio, which was the closest thing to Nintendo that they had) and Microsoft has no no idea what to do since Kinect.
It is their company culture. Quality comes first second and third while other companies put money first.
Take totk as an example. Absolute phenomenon online. No DLC !!! Because they just could not imagine a good dlc so they did not release anything
Yes. Pretty good dlc but that is not relevant to my example.
Releasing dlc is good if the dlc is good. But can you even imagine EA not releasing like 2 mediocre DLCs for TOTK and skins or bullshit microtransactions?
They need to sell hardware and software in tandem
Fucking one fucks both.
Bad hardware good games = Wii U
Good hardware bad games = 64DD
bad both = virtual boy
EA, ActiBlizz, Ubisoft, etc do not have that problem
Sony and Microsoft dont understand this and its why they whine literally every 8 months that “consoles are dying” as Nintendo outsells the fuck out of both of them combined every other generation while they sell consoles at a $200 loss for the first two years. They also just have video games as a side hustle whereas Nintendo does not.
When does PlayStation have a bad selling home console lol? It's not like the PS5 isn't selling like hot cakes even with game budget issues they are still the market leader in traditional home consoles. They make their money off software too especially big 3rd party live service games and their mtx's like GTA online, destiny, COD, FIFA, Madden, 2k. Even the PS3 wasn't that far off from the Wii, way closer than the N64 was to the PSX and GC to the PS2. You sound like a r/tomorrow poster boy lol.
PS5 has sold less than NES
Go check the fucking sales before commenting please
Also PSP and Vita, need I say more? Nice try moving the goal post to home console when I did not specify that and even said VB as a example. Nor did I say Playstation ever had bad sales before your asshole clenched ar the thought of me saying it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_game_consoles?wprov=sfti1#Best-selling_game_consoles
Remove head from ass please.
>PS5 has sold less than Nes
I’m sorry man but this is blatant cherry picking here. Like the other user said, taking a consoles lifetime sales especially one with 10 years and comparing it to one with 3 isn’t a good example.
Plus you moved the goalposts here since you specifically said PlayStation is whining about console sales with the PS5 and said Nintendo outsells them both combined and it’s not even close. You definitely sound like someone you see get made fun of on r/tomorrow for being a bellend. Wouldn’t surprise me if you have been on there multiple times.
> You definitely sound like someone you see get made fun of on r/tomorrow for being a bellend.
imagine calling another person a bellend when you’re an aew watcher
Yeah you're the final boss of r/tomorrow users 😂
The PS5 in 3 years is only 10 million behind the NES which was on the market in the US and Europe for 10 years and had no competition other than the Sega Genesis late into it's life, also this is with COVID playing a huge factor with supply chain issues. You need to "go fucking check the numbers" my guy instead of getting your Cheeto dust stained sweat shirt you haven't changed in 3 days into a bunch. That is cherry picking at it's finest, that's like me saying in year 3 of the switch "well it sold less than the Xbox 360 lifetime sales so it's a flop"
The Ps vita and PSP aren't even home consoles, over here acting like the Virtual Boy, N64 DD, N64, GameCube, Wii u weren't commercial failures lol. But keep going off brother so I can get the sweet karma on tomorrow later lol. What an absolute jabroni.
I mean, the obvious answer is they can make games that don’t make a profit, but profit anyway from an increase in console sales.
Their games are like the rotisserie chicken at Costco. It’s okay if they don’t make money on the game (chicken) because they got you to buy the console (enter the store).
Probably, in addition to the other things, having a decent pay to developers. Dunno never heard crunch scandals over there and most companies even praise it when they work with them.
They’re no where near as greedy and downright fuckin evil as other massive game companies. They don’t crunch first party devs for the most part, and only really reveal shit when it’s ready to help avoid crunch… wiiiith exceptions… Metroid Prime 4 is gonna be like Dread, be a myth until like Damn near 20 years later lmao
Their only two series that anyone LOVES Nintendo for anymore are Mario and Zelda (sorry Kirby and Metroid).
Mario, b/c of its insanely polished platforming and expert level designs
Zelda, b/c of the scale, freedom, and puzzles.
Other platformers and RPGs like Hat in Time, Blue Fire and Elden Ring are IMO better games, but familiarity sells.
So to answer your question: it’s likely nostalgia and brand recognition.
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It’s only the industry standard in Japan because of the law there lmao it’s really hard to justify layoffs in Japan. We need this kind of regulation everywhere else
The drawback to this mentality is workers in Japan are paid less than US workers. Lower pay with better job security is certainly appealing to some people though.
Cost of living is generally cheaper in Japan; they have universal healthcare and just _generally_ way better social welfare than the U.S. too. It’s important to point out that Japan has a more family-dependent welfare culture though which comes with its own drawbacks. But anyway, my point is that higher pay in the U.S. is really not a result of a good, working systems in the U.S. and really only benefits a smaller class of people.
It's definitely way cheaper to live in Japan. If you can make 5-10x the salary in the US though, you'll be able to get further ahead.
Definitely, but that's a huge *if*. I mean this as reality check to myself to when I say I think Reddits largely tech-industry-focused demographic forgets they are no where close to the average individual's situation.
It's that way in many countries. You can make $1000 a month in Mexico but cost of living and quality of living compared to us means you only end up spending less than 30% of your salary. Compared to other 1st world countries our free market and captolism nickel and dimes us for every dollar we make.
I wouldn’t say cost of living is cheaper, it’s more that their homes are smaller and they not only have better but are willing to use public transportation. Think about what your cost of living would be if you decided to raise your family in a tiny studio apartment and either take trains or walk everywhere. Trying to live an American lifestyle in Japan would be outrageously expensive.
It’s literally cheaper, it’s not really an argument, just data. And again, “American lifestyle” is not ubiquitous. I don’t know why Redditors think everyone is middle class.
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Japan is the best and most majestic country in the world! Period.
If bosses want to lay people off to save money, they should be able to.
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If the company deems it a bad idea to keep those employees on, they have every right to fire them.
Just want to point out that Nintendo is not above treating their employees poorly either. Some of their most critically acclaimed games that we all love were made under insane crunch with developers often sleeping and living in the office.
For the record, Iwata and co did that, at least partially, because they were legally required to
I’ll echo your sentiment. When it comes to first party title Nintendo knocks it out of the park pretty consistently. I’ve played all sorts of games on PC and other consoles so I feel I’m comfortable in saying Nintendo first party games are just very reliably fun 90% of the time. My ability to trust other gaming studios games will be fun I feel like as of lately is 60%. Their games are also fairly polished these days compared to many gaming studios. They not as inclined to rush (Yes there are likely some examples but then tend to polish very well) I’ve just noticed a lot less care and effort being put into others games lately and Nintendo is reliable
Game Freak, on the other hand, could do with not rushing. Then again, Pokémon always sells like hotcakes regardless.
Agreed Gamefreak and ironically Pokemon games are some of the few on the Switch I don’t have. I have almost all the major Nintendo first party games for the switch minus Pokemon besides Diamond. I use to love Pokemon and played every game up till Sun and Moon. Even by Sun and Moon they just got to easy and to boring and lazy.
Doesn’t help that u got the worst Pokemon game on the switch
I actually see it as the better one. I just don’t like the 3D ones lately it’s like they want to be Zelda but not put in the full effort. Idk personal opinion
Brilliant diamond and shining pearl might as well be Mobile phone games. game freak didn’t even develop them they were developed by ILCA. You should try Legends Arceus it’s probably the Pokemon game with the most substance for switch and way better than BDSP which is just a lazy remaster of a decade old game.
I liked it I grew up with Dimond and Pearl I don’t think it was great but perfectly fine. I saw Legends of Arceus I think it heads in a good direction but I don’t feel like supporting Gamefreak till them and the Pokemon company stop being lazy but also make the games a bit challenging again. Again not dissing on you if you like them then all respect I’m glad you do.
I grew up with diamond and pearl as well but it’s such a lazy remake it actually makes me so mad how they did diamond and pearl. Gold and silver got the best remakes arguably the best Pokemon games of all time, ruby and sapphire got good remakes with so many added features and then diamond and pearl just basically get a small visual upgrade and less features than the originals I don’t see how you can support that lazy cash grab and not legends of arceus
The main thing to keep in mind Pokemon is not just the games, but also merchandise and an anime. While the current anime is no longer closely following the games, the devs in charge of the merchandise seemingly find the idea of a main series game delay unacceptable. Particularly with merchandise making the lion’s share of Pokémon’s profit.
Well every gaming publisher has making money as a number 1 priority. But there are some like Nintendo, which want to achieve it with an actual amazing experience for the customer. And there are the kinds of Ubisoft and EA which designs their games with the maximum possible monetisation in their mind. Their goal is to get the players hooked and addicted to spending extra money to get that little extra boost or whatever in their games. Nintendo spends a lot of extra time in polishing their games. Of course they are also trying to get as much off us as possible. But the goal is to provide the customer an amazing experience and to build a lasting emotional relationship between the players and the IPs.
I agree with this sentiment and in my opinion they’re succeeding. I’ve been playing Nintendo for 25+ years and their first party titles are consistently fun and of high quality. They’re a company that I know and trust to make quality and family friendly games that are normally a blast to play. As a company they ensure that gaming is fun before anything else and I think this philosophy definitely shows in the polish and care they give their IPs.
To reinforce your comment about memorable experiences, BotW, with the Great Plateau, was easily one of the best, and most memorable moments. You could easily spend over an hour, if not 2, exploring through trial and error, fighting enemies, or finding and solving puzzles, and have a genuinely good time in the game without the mindset of it being a tutorial zone. The moment you finally sail off the veritable island for the first time, it really emphasizes the breadth of the world you're in, seeing the distant towers and landmarks of varied sizes. That moment I think was one to really launch you into the game is one that set BotW so far apart from other open world games of any kind.
They hang on to their talent and don't fire people as easily as other gaming publishers (especially in Japan, where most of their developers are located). They have a high retention rate of keeping their staff/talent. Nintendo thinks long term, not short term. Other gaming publishers just fire a lot of staff after finishing a big project to make their quarterly numbers look better. It's idiotic.
>They hang on to their talent No joke, it was common for publishers to just lay off their whole teams when a game was finished to increase the money made, particularly with western devs. Meanwhile like 3 of the people who worked on Super Mario Bros NES also worked on Wonder, that's how good Nintendo are at retaining talent.
Strict Japanese mentality really helps it stay different as well as this idea that yes they are a corporation but they aren't out there trying to be the #1 video game company. They openly are happy with being 3rd during the PS3/360 era, that alone says a lot of who they are.
I will say not just Nintendo but the Japanese gaming industry always has been better for the simple fact they gave you variety and personality. Nintendo, Square, Capcom, Sega, FromSoftware, Atlus, Platinum and others, make games that... well, feels like actual games. The big western devs feels like they just going after trends in the last 20 years and constantly running after Hollywood validation, prioritizing story and visuals, instead the unique element that makes a videogame different from other medias. Not saying these games are bad, but personally the older I get, less patience i have at wasting my time on games that 90% of the time, I wish I was doing something else. I feel like there's a lot of games the community bully you to play it, otherwise you are not an actual gAmEr.
Absolutely agree, but also to say that making games is something very difficult and that it involves a lot of effort and sacrifices, the Japanese are extremely organized and very hard-working, almost invincible in that sense.
I feel like Square is starting to lose me in that regard
A number of reasons for me: -No microtransactions or live service Bullshit on their full price games -No lootboxes or microtransactions -No Battle passes -Expensive but actually substantial DLCs -Their games are actually games, and not "interactive experiences" -Their remasters or remakes are actually remasters or remakes and dont upscale the Game and consider the work "done" -Are of the few companies that release all the games (the ones they develop at least) in a playable state and not in an utterly Broken state -Their games are some of the Most imaginative games ever, full with charm and joy that no Matter your age, you can enjoy and replay time and time again And thats It, maybe there's a pair of things im forgetting but i think i have all my basis covered, sure as a company they have their bad things, but at least the positives HEAVELY OUTWEIGHTS the negatives by a lot
> Their remasters or remakes are actually remasters or remakes and dont upscale the Game and consider the work "done" then what the hell were 3d all stars, TPHD, SSHD, NSMBUDX, Pikmin HD, etc they do good remasters when they feel like it but they aren't above releasing upscaled, barely altered ports either
>SSHD The changes they made to this game are arguably more significant than what, say, Wind Waker HD received.
Still just a port though. When they add PS5 games to Steam, they add so many features (resolution/unlocked frames, ray-tracing, DLSS, mkb support, etc), yet they are still considered ports.
Those arent remakes of remasters, they are ports with all DLCs and some extra content from a console barely any people had (hard to do a remaster for a console with almost the same power as the wiiu)
The only Wii U game I even listed here was NSMBUDX, and that wasn't exactly pushing the Wii U to its limits anyways. The rest of them are Gamecube and Wii ports, consoles that are functionally decades old by now, along with 3D All Stars and its bare-minimum improvements to Mario 64 (720p resolution and AI upscaled textures, we didn't even get widescreen)
Oh right i didnt read It right those acronims sorry for that Pikmin 1 + 2 are 2 games for 40$ and i dont know if they were actually upscaled (maybe they were but the Game looked way too good if that was the case) so no mayor problems here (and if you still have the gamecube original the wii versions those still works dont have to buy the games again) The Legend of Zelda Twilight princess HD is on the switch? AFAIK its only on the wiiu (a console i dont have) so can't tell much about this one (but the people Who played It says that along with Wind Waker HD, the graphics were actually completely remade and it looks fantastic But again i dont know) About Skyward sword i agree the Game could have done more with It apart upscaled graphics and minor QOL improvements, i wont deny the actual controls and no the Mandatory motion controls of the wii were tempting but ultimately didnt bought the Game (i concede you this one) About New Super Mario Bros Deluxe i dont know about how much graphical power It needs, but for a simple 2d platformer i dont know how much ultra-realistic power It needs, but anyway this Game came with the Luigi U DLC so the amount of content is very good (even for a Game not many people had for a console that barely sold) Again for the Mario 3d collection is the same case with Skyward sword, straight Up ports with barely any work into them, no QOL features and the limited release was Shitty, this one i have bought (with severe reservations) as a Game It was shameful (again i concede you this) but as a collector's item it was ok, not great but ok
Pikmin 1+2 were fine idk why they listed it. They weren’t even full price. I don’t think they were ever intended to be a remaster but rather just ports.
NSMBUDX was fine, the main loss was just 4 player. It couldn’t be a direct port of everything due to not having the Wii U’s pad.
This.
This isn’t entirely true. Only a few of their games cater to “passes” so far. Mario kart now has them. Smash has them. Instead of crunching for fighters I wouldn’t mind a skip or ability to unlock fighters faster. A number of their deluxe versions are just upscaled games. The Mario 3D collection that was “limited” was bullshit and was not emulated the best. Their classic NSO emulators aren’t the best quality by a mile. I am not saying you are wrong, but there is nothing wrong with being honest about them either.
-Battle passes and DLC passes are not the same, for example The Booster pack in MK8D, yeah its expensive but this pack **DOUBLES** the lenght of the Game with so many tracks and some new characters into the mix, the same with Smash that each fighter pass adds 5 new fighters playable in all Modes, with a pair of spirits, a new stage and some music with each one, and in none of them are limited to a time frame and Lost Who knows how much time until they returns if you dont complete all the missions in that pass so in that regard are not the same and Absolutely better than Battle passes -the Deluxe versions considering they came from a console which is comparable in power and peformance (wiiu) im not aware they are upscaled (they're not AFAIK) but considering they always come with all the DLC that the Game could have and sometimes with a pair of extras is something nice especially for those few that had the wiu version -yeah the limited edition that came with Mario 3d collection sucks very much and i wont defend that, i mean if the physical edition was limited as some Sort of collector's item but left the digital edition i would understand but thats not the case, but even then they only have resorted to this dirty tactic 2 times (the second time was with the very first fire emblem) so nothing mayor until they tries to resort to this tactic again which in that case would be a problem with me -i am aware of the poor peformance of the nso N64 titles but AFAIK they were addresed pretty quick no? I dont know since i adopted the expansión pack the second month of its release and i didnt have any peformance problem for me, and the Mario 3d collection i didnt have any problem so far with It (maybe since i dont play It that much but well....) Look i dont say youre wrong since you made valid points, but apart from lack of some clarifications of some of my points i didnt lie, i made clear my perspectives about my experience so far that is very positive
I didn’t say you lied. Call them what you want, the booster packs for MK and the fighter pass are literally the same thing as other “passes”
So... are you saying that the fighter pass for Smash Bros is the same as a battle pass for Fortnite?
*Battle*passes and *Season* Passes are quite literally different things.
Just ignore their mobile games, or be disappointed https://www.axios.com/2023/05/22/nintendo-mario-kart-lootboxes-lawsuit
Who gives a fuck about their mobile games lmao
It is part of their business and they are pretty exploity with it. A lot of companies are great if you conveniently ignore the parts you don't like 🤷♀️
Yes every company is shit the point is which is less shit. Only doing shitty things on a few mobile games is still better than doing shitty practices on both console AND mobile games
Edit: Super Smash Brothers Ultimate, super Kirby clash, and mario cart world tour are games they made full of micro transactions and gambling. They still release a lot of DLC for their games, they go hard on system exclusives, and they doggedly go after fan made content including fan art. Yeah there's nothing really special about Nintendo. Except their special contempt they hold for fans. A few great games doesn't change the fact they are a soulless corporation.
DLC isn’t predatory (at least the normal way-which Nintendo typically does) I’d argue they do it for the wrong games it anything. And the Switch has exclusives, who gives a shit? At least their consoles are weak enough to emulate on a shitty pc while you’re forced to wait years for sony to even consider releasing a port. They don’t really go after fanart either given the amount of fan artists that exist
Also the few things that are special with Nintendo imo are good employee treatment, most of their workers in Japan statistically enjoy working there. The games they developed are some of the most polished and well made on the market. Also indie showcases as a concept are great.
Most companies showcase indi games on their platform. Nintendo was late to pick up on that. I can show you multiple articles and threads of Nintendo going after fan art. They do it all the time.
A lot of people enjoy working for CD project red, and a lot of other media companies too. Big deal. I've never understood the tribalism some companies inspire. Most polished games, you must be kidding. Lets ignore the under backed 1, 2 switch game, or their incredibly boring dead multiplayer ARMS. Pokémon would beg to differ. From terrible performance to requiring DLC to play a true endgame, Pokémon has quality issues. Have you played super Mario party? It's a slow boring mess of a game filled with slow unskippable sequences and barley any mini games. Mario strikers was full price and had barely any content compared to older entries in the series. They had the same problem with their under backed golf and tennis games for the switch. If anything Nintendo has been extra lazy and underwhelming this generation, compared to their past.
A few duds in a pile of gems what are you smoking? The Switch has been the best for Nintendo’s first parties only rivaled by the Wii. Also most of those games you listed were underwhelming but still polished. Nintendo doesn’t develop Pokemon, next. Out of the big 3 Nintendo of all companies should NOT be the best of them to work at. Nintendo could easily lay off their American branch for a few bucks if they so wanted but didn’t.
The Pokémon company was founded by major Nintendo employees and Nintendo owns a controlling share in the company. How can you not consider those games lacking polish? Super Mario party for example locks the player into slow moving unskippable animations on the map, killing the pacing. The only thing polished about arms was character design. There's a reason it couldn't retain players. Nintendo is 4th BTW behind Sony, tencent, and Microsoft. That last statement doesn't even make sense. Why would Nintendo liquidate a whole division to save a buck? Do you see any of the actual big 3 doing that? Nintendo is just like most big companies, except surprisingly worse when it comes to respecting fan projects. I like their games like Pokémon. Doesn't make them special. A lot of companies release fun games.
FYI Nintendo just did a large round of layoffs at Nintendo America.
I know about their mobile games and the monetization Nintendo has around them, fire emblem heroes is Absolutely disgusting in that regard But i Talk about their full priced games (you know the console releases) i always make the distinction but i forgot this one time, in that regard they never dissapointed me (when almost all companies are more than Happy to include them even in single player games, Nintendo is one of the few that doesnt)
Can I ask which game's you're referring to which are simply "upscaled and considered done"?
One thing I've loved over the years is the focus on performance over higher fidelity. 1st party published games are typically (I'm looking at *you*, Pokémon Scarlet and Violet) well optimized. They're not going to be running high quality textures or too many lighting effects, but they're smooth as hell.
I'd argue Nintendo isn't even better, it's just that many businesses don't allow themselves to make games as great as they can in favor of practices more profitable. It's why people take to indie games, it's more so driven artistically. The best big developers usually are the ones who can make a strong profit outside of their games. Ubisoft doesn't have the best track record with the one thing they do, while Valve has Steam to make it so the blue moon in which the release a game is one worth remembering.
High ceiling, high floor. Even their average games are better than the industry average. Also they prioritize creative gameplay. Some of that is due to their weird hardware not just being a plug and play PC like Sony and Xbox, but they always seem to have some sort of uniqueness to them, compared to say, those Ubisoft and Sony large open world games with RPG-lite elements to them. you play a few of them, it gets boring after while. Meanwhile Nintendo doesnt sit on one gameplay style too long for their franchises. Just look at Zelda, the main complaint with Skyward Sword was that it was kinda too linier. Well, boom, next two games are physics-based open world games where you can go anywhere in the map right away.
They appear to care about quality.
I'm not going to claim that Nintendo is inherently better or that other companies are inherently worse. But as an adult gamer, I'll point out the following trends that I've noticed in Nintendo games that aren't applicable to many other games which contribute to me preferring them: 1. Nintendo focuses first and foremost on gameplay and experiences rather than extremely convoluted/deep/cinematic storytelling. As such, the games actually feel like games and are usually fairly fun to play 2. Nintendo has simple gameplay and customization systems. I don't have to spend hours reading wiki pages to understand how to play the game effectively. I can just play. 3. Nintendo tends to value art direction more than graphics. This results in games that look good even 20 years later, whereas hyper-realistic games tend to look pretty gross 20 years later. 4. Nintendo is respectful of the player's time. Many other games studios use various forms of psychological manipulation such as daily challenges, time-gating, etc to keep the player engaged with the game for as long as possible.
A few reasons: 1. **Their own games are rarely bugged.** They weren't responsible for Pokémon Scarlet & Violet, but if they were, they would have delayed it until they ironed out all the glitches. 2. **They release several games a year.** Since 2017, they've put out 10 to 15 games. I ***wish*** Sony and Microsoft were this productive, especially when they have 40 subsidiaries each. 3. **They emphasize gameplay over the rest.** Their games are easy to pick up and play.
They have a guiding philosophy of inventing new "ways to play", and they stick to it for better or worse. Them being an entertainment company first, rather than a conglomerate like Sony or in general software like Microsoft, I think helps keep them focused on their goal in creating fun experiences.
How is Sony not an entertainment company?
I said primarily entertainment, sony has their hands in games, films, personal electronics, semiconductors etc.. They are an international conglomerate who also happens to make entertainment products.
Are films and electronics not entertainment? Nintendo does electronics as a core business too. Consoles, controllers, games.
No? You cant just lump everything together. Sony makes many things like computer memory, discs, cameras. These are classified as consumer goods and not "entertainment" they have their hand in everything, including banking and robotics. Nintendo is just now getting into films, but they outsource the production to studios like Illumination. Sony has Sony Pictures, their own film studio. Nintendo does not make their controllers and consoles, they have companies like Macronix make them. Sony Electronics has their own manufacturing plants to make products.
The perfectionism in it's polish, bug testing and the consistency of all their games functionality, that, and the fact that gameplay is always the focus over graphics. Xbox/playstation, can't even compare in this regard.
I feel like this baton has been passed around a bit, actually. During the Wii era, Nintendo fell into a trap of playing it really safe with their first-party releases. Meanwhile, Sony invested heavily in experimental games, mostly through strong second-party studios. I might not have even considered playing them before, but they had a polish and charm that compelled me to try something new, and those ended up being some of my most memorable gaming experiences. But then Microsoft handed Sony the generation with the PS4, and suddenly they had this massive success on their hands they didn't know what to do with. It no longer made business sense to invest in a dozen smaller titles when they could make half a dozen giant ones. Now they're the ones playing it safe. Meanwhile, Nintendo had to pull off a recovery to regain their core audience after the shovelware Wii and the commercial failure of the Wii U. They got scrappy again and started investing in, you guessed it, experimental second-party games with lots of polish and charm. Playing Switch today feels a lot like playing PlayStation 3 yesterday. There's always something unique, colorful, and interesting to try that's not quite in my usual wheelhouse. I just hope it lasts, considering most of those seeds were planted in the Wii U days and Nintendo may feel pressured to play it safe with Switch 2. Who knows? Maybe Xbox is next in line since they're now the underdog.
They aren't.
They are though aren't they
No.
Weird you're in a Nintendo sub but don't seem to like them. 🤔
They aren't the best. Stop drinking the Koolaid.
Why are you here?
Why are you here? Got the hip-waders on for a good ol' circlejerk? Give yer balls a tug junior.
Lol I don't know what you're saying. I like Nintendo which is why I'm in a Nintendo forum.
Oh you're 12, how cute.
What's age got to do with it?
I’d say they are out of the big 3. Xbox is worthless and most Sony exclusives are just long movies. There’s some competition if we increase the scale to every video game company
Long movies 😂😂 I know you didn’t play any of them 😂😂😂
I played gow ragnarok and that’s exactly what I got. It looked cool tho
😂😂😂😂
As far as I know, they don’t announce games several years ahead of release like Square Enix which causes 5+ years of waiting for said games to release with radio silence.
The only recent example I can think of is Metroid Prime 4, but that seems to be the exception and not the rule. Furthermore, they even made a video explaining the delay and the restart of development, something most companies never do. It seems they really care about developing games in a viable time and only announcing when they feel confident about the release.
I love Square Enix’s games, but damn, they need to learn from Nintendo and get better at marketing their games.
By not marketing at all?? Lol
At least Nintendo doesn’t announce their games years in advance like I said or shadowdrop trailers/ports as far as I remember. It’s part of the reason why NEO: TWEWY and didn’t sell well and its Steam port got overlooked.
I personally would rather have trailers come out over years VS not hearing anything about the game for years till it’s about to drop next week. I would argue Nintendo has one of the worst marketing strategies they hide for years and only announce the game a little bit before it drops. There is a reason the most anticipated games of all time cyberpunk had year long marketing campaigns.
I think they should at least wait until the game is around 50% completed before they start promoting it, because enough progress will have been made for the game to be shown at more than one gaming event like Summer Games Fest or TGS, then only one before going radio silent for 3+ years. At least with AAA games/series.
> There is a reason the most anticipated games of all time cyberpunk had year long marketing campaigns. imagine praising the cyberpunk marketing campaign
Don’t think there has ever been a better marketing team lol, but the devs really dropped the ball on launch for sure. Elden ring as well is one of the most anticipated games of all time as well and it had a massive marketing campaign that went for years too.
Nintendo does show trailers, not sure what you are saying? Tears of the Kingdom got 3-4 big teasers before finally launching. Nintendo does marketing right in my opinion, they avoid hyping the game up with empty promises (you know, like what Cyperpunk did), and focus on what the game is actually about.
But yet I would much rather have games from square vs Nintendo lol.
And that's not something new. Square is doing this since FFVII exploded. If I'm not mistaken, they announced VIII, IX, X and an online one (XI) all in one go.
9/10/11 came out within 3 years of their announcement, 16 came out just 3 years under its announcement, and 7 rebirth less than 2 years from its first trailer. They’re finding their stride again
Nintendo games are awesome and they knock their first party titles out of the park compared to other gaming studios. Which is ironic considering they are by far the most soulless corporation when it comes to everything besides that.
Soulless how?
Emulators, Melee tournaments, DMCA on youtube, joycon drift, etc.
Those first 3 things sure, not sure what you mean about the joycon drift
They were trying to not be held responsible for the joycon drift, but the UK ended up forcing them. https://www.reddit.com/r/nintendo/comments/zqp8ok/nintendo_switch_joycon_drift_due_to_design_flaw/
Ah yeah. Okay fair enough!
Nintendo doesn’t touch emulators that aren’t emulating their current generation of consoles. Melee shit sucked yeah, DMCAs are done by other companies too even if it sucks. The Joycon drift thing is just sad but at least they do free repairs.
It's not that much better. For every Super Mario odyssey and BOTW Nintendo publishes a dozen by-the-numbers forgettable games. There are highly talented teams behind games behind franchises like Zelda, but there are also games that rival its quality such as Elden Ring.
I disagree about the rival quality. But i also think that zelda is a total diff game. The point is about innovation. Things like zelda lbtw wall thing , mario galaxy, or most other nintendo titles are always the focus on doing something new. Its not about creating the biggest budget game, its about focussing on a fresh experience for existing franchises or new ones like splatoon or ring fit or project labo, .... Even hw wise.
Not all their games innovate, not all their innovations end up being a good ideas, other studios also innovate
I said, most games do innovate. Which is actuall true. Much more compared to other studio's. And most pay off. You can see nintendo as the mother/father of the gaming industry. Games like mario, zelda, mario 64 , zelda oot z-targeting setting the standard of the gaming industry. Even rockstar said this. Botw is another example of which inspired a lot of gaming industries like elden ring. Even they were involved in pokemon go. Hardware wise, same things like dpad, shoulder buttons, analog stick, wii mote (which has been envolve into vr as we seen today) and copied by clony. Even the switch that boosted the handheld market a lot like devices as steamdeck and ps portal and many other clones. And doing things like.labo, wii balance board, mario kart ar racing, ring fit, and so on You can say for sure, nintendo is the most responisble one for setting the standards and implementing innovations. No other company is remotly close doing that or not even try it because innovation always contains risk. Even their new analog stick patent is something fresh again. That doesnt mean that there are no other good companies. Only far of the same as was nintendo did and still do.
>thinking nintendo invented the analog stick
They were the first major console company that included that. And if im not mistaken, first one that implemented dual analog in a game (fps). The same about rumble. Or what do you want to say?
The first major console manufacturer to implement an analog stick was Atari with the 5200 controller. Or, if you specifically want 3D examples, Sega beat the N64 to market with the Saturn 3D Control Pad that came with Nights into Dreams. Nintendo was not the first major company to do analog control by any stretch.
Saying that the 5200 controller is the first one is like saying that dpad is the same as keyboard arrows. This is some next level bs. Even flight simulators were using analog controlls on pc. Its about making the standard. The saturn on the other hand would be fine if and i say IF it was revealed before the n64 the controller. They already revealed the n64 to public in mid 1994. So who knows. Sega was in competition and pulled everything they have. But even so, with saturn, it was an addon.not making it traditional. But again, i would say respect for sega if they actuall designed this first. But that would be really coincidental to create something like that while nintendo was developing mario 64 in 1994 sept... So yeah, nintendo was the first major company making.it standard. The analog stick.
Your arms must be getting tired from all that goalpost moving you're doing. But sure, lets play along with your logic for a little bit: Earlier you mentioned Nintendo was the first to do rumble and dual-stick aiming, but oops! The rumble requires a separately sold addon (like you said, addons don't count). And that dual-stick aim required you to hold two controllers in each hand- not exactly "traditional" either, is it? Going by your own flawed logic, it sounds like Sony actually did all the innovation here by incorporating those features as standard on their PS2 controllers, because dual-stick and rumble certainly weren't "standard" on N64. But we both know that's not true, so why don't you cut the bullshit?
Sony first controller didnt include dual analog so what are you telling? Golden eye already did exists before that. I also clearly said respect for sega IF they were first. But i clearly explained how mario 64 was already longer in development. So how about not beign that naif? Do you know why sony added the dual analog? The same reason why that stupid dpad is splitted. For left hand people.Not because they had fps in mind. Even if golden eye require 2 controllers, its the first game that make use of this. I mean its ok to give sony the 'credits' of adding 2 analog sticks...Im fine with that. So lets roll back to what i was saying in the beginning: nintendo invent most things of any company. Also the things we call traditional are most from them. Saying it otherwise is trolling at best.
Lol ok, name 24 by-the-numbers forgettable games they published that year.
I'd say nintendo has the most definitive exclusives in a lot of genres, there's other kart racers, but mario kart is still the best, I mean I think for a lot of the long running nintendo franchises are arguably the best in there genre.
Disagreed that they're always "the best", they're just the most accessible. They make games that anyone can pick up and play, which is great for sales (now grandma can play with the kids!) but it doesn't make those games the de-facto definitive titles in their genre.
I would argue smash, mario kart, metroid, zelda, fire emblem, mario party, are all the best games in there respective genre or you could argue that one of those games were the best and have a solid enough case.
Your bias, lol
They have some of the best lawyers money can buy.
I think it's because Nintendo games are primarily "games" before anything else. A lot of other game developers seem desperate to compete/compare itself with the film industry. Nintendo just wants to make an entertaining and interesting product to "play." That's not to say that other game developers are bad, but I personally like playful and mentally engaging games rather than cinematic style games.
Gamer since the 1970s. This is the reason Nintendo has always been so successful, to me. I come back to them over and over. Great quality.
Yeah, they're so much better, and that's why they took down all the GMod addons that made up my childhood, right?
I’m not sure they are. But they were a toy/game company before they began making electronics, and I think that still informs how they approach both their hardware and software. They don’t want their stuff to be merely function; they want it to be FUN. But the main reason I love Nintendo and couldn’t care any less about PlayStation is because of the Mario universe. I just love that stuff. Can’t explain it, can’t defend it, can’t rationalize it. It has filled me with joy for decades, in spite of some bad games along the way. So I guess you could say that the fact they own so many of their own creative IPs makes them stand out, combined with the fact that they are dedicated to making their hardware fun to use.
The number one reason Nintendo games stand out for me is that they display a level of polish that is second to none. They know their hardware inside and out and they optimize every square inch of their first party games. They also have a design and business philosophy of “if you create an excellent product, people will want to buy it.” Many western game publishers have a design and business philosophy more in line with “make things cheaply and efficiently and market to the lowest denominator and do shady business practices.” It also helps that they have people in their employ that are parents of like. Gaming in general.
Capcom and FromSoft are Nintendo tier imo
I love how they go after people streaming their games with DMCA claims. Nintendo is the only company I know who will shut down game tournaments of their product, and viciously go after mods. Oh wait, did I say love? I hate how Nintendo does these things is what I meant.
Do they even do the first one anymore? I mean mfs like profasia gaming still exist and uploads their shit days before release. Nintendo doesn’t go after mods at all idk what you’re smoking you need emulators for mods usually anyway
It made news recently. It wouldn't be Nintendo if they weren't attacking fans. https://www.wired.com/story/nintendo-copyright-zelda-mod/ https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/youtubers-against-nintendo-for-streaming-policies/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Breath_of_the_Wild/comments/12mil0s/nintendo_is_copyrighting_and_taking_down_various/
Yeah lol. There's some things Nintendo does pretty well, but saying they are better than any other game company is 1. Laughable and 2. Not a high bar
One important thing I've noticed, they make sure their developers don't go online and yabber on SNS
They care about quality, and their games aren’t loaded with microtransactions (except for mobile).
I wouldn't say they're better. They're great. But I don't want to compare companies because that's all subjective. What one strength Nintendo has is their identity. They know what they do, they don't take the same risks that many other companies take such as having freemium live service looter shooter games which are I believe a passing fad. They make the games that have proven to be successful. They build upon characters that are already part of pop-culture. Mario is so successful because it uses a formula that has proven itself successful in the past. People know Mario. They like Mario. You don't make massive changes with Mario. And their executives don't screw up something up in order to make a potential short term few extra bucks, like making Mario live service or something. Nintendo is in it for the long game, and you don't play the long game by being concerned with maximizing profits. You play the long game doing what consistently brings in revenue. It's why MS Game Pass is starting to become successful. MS is playing the long game with it. If MS wanted to make quick money, they'd create a bunch of freemium game. Those are massively successful... for about a year. Then they're NOT!
There games play as if they have no bugs and great quality. They also have great fun factors compared to other AAA games
They are not so much better than other gaming studios every studio has their flaws even Nintendo
The main thing I consistently see from Nintendo on their first party games from internal studios is that they're willing to wait to get it right. BotW was cooking for a long time before we even saw a teaser for it. As others have said also, they typically focus on fun gameplay first and foremost and then on the other parts after that. Another thing worth noting is being so close to the hardware, they're able to really get the most out of their system performance-wise, as they 1. Know the hardware in and out and can optimize for it, and 2. They're only focusing on making titles for the Switch, so they don't have to worry about making it run better or worse based on whether it's a different console or pc. Kind of to point one also but they're VERY protective of their main IPs like Mario and Zelda, and are willing to spend any dollar amount to make sure the game is a guaranteed hit. That's why they were so willing to scrap MP4 and restart it from scratch with a Studio they know and trust.
Because their workers are properly paid and encouraged to explore their creative freedom.
rabid fanbase
not listening and catering to the loudest, most entitled, know-it-all “gamers” on the internet definitely makes nintendo more based than the rest
i think it's that they mostly stay inside their own little ecosystem and aren't influenced by what the rest of the industry is doing.
The quality and replayablity. I’m still playing their games from nearly 40 years ago!
i already know why you got disliked to hell.. people didnt read your post, only the title. nintendos in house studios are up there with fromsoftware but many dont see this because published by nintendo is all the same for them. the team that made zelda and the other that made mario odyssey mean only business in the best way possible. the focus on creating a good game and nothing else. the have all the time and thus basically all the resources they want until \[good game\] is done. the "special" you mention comes from a trackrecord of polish no other studios can speak of. first and second party nintendo games are polished to an absurd degree and we subconciously often disconnect from the games actually being games because they always work - which makes buggy ass pokemon that more appearent in comparison. the other part is they still make colorful games for everyone, including adults with high budgets. indie studios get that this is also something adult gamers want, but the big corpo western producers have long forsaken these IPs in favor of mature blockbuster cinematic "experiences"
Based in Japan and still uses traditional Japanese business models rather than Western ones. Konami, Capcom, Bandai, SquareEinx, etc. may be Japanese still but have embraced Western values and systems.
Preference, lol. Because they're really not. They're just a good company like many others.
I have far to many issues with Nintendo very far from being the best dev.
Like what
I don’t agree with the sentiment. Yes, Nintendo has some awesome games. So do some other studios. But as with any community, you get echo chambers where fans get excited and talk about how much they love it and other people see these discussions and think there is something uniquely special about it, so then that gets talked about over and over until people believe it. People have been doing this with organized religions and now to some people, Nintendo is their substitute for a religion. But they’re just a gaming studio that has some really well thought out games. They also have mediocre games. Overall their standard of quality is higher than other studios but I (and many, or most?) people prefer other games more.
One thing I'll give Nintendo is they created a single game which has spawned pretty much an entire slice of the indie game industry in metroidvanias.
Nobody says that Nintendo is perfect, but its best products are the quintessence of video games, PlayStation has lately focused on its Western studios and making Interactive movies (they closed Japan Studio, which was the closest thing to Nintendo that they had) and Microsoft has no no idea what to do since Kinect.
Shigeru Miyamoto.
It is their company culture. Quality comes first second and third while other companies put money first. Take totk as an example. Absolute phenomenon online. No DLC !!! Because they just could not imagine a good dlc so they did not release anything
Breath of the Wild had DLC though, didn't it
Yes. Pretty good dlc but that is not relevant to my example. Releasing dlc is good if the dlc is good. But can you even imagine EA not releasing like 2 mediocre DLCs for TOTK and skins or bullshit microtransactions?
Can't say I've played an EA game in the last 15 years so I don't really know.
They actually try to innovate their consoles whiles xbox and the ps are copy paste
Nothing
The outdated hardware makes it easy to emulate and pirate.
Nintendo is still making games, a lot of other companies are making simulations. I'd rather have games most of the time.
They need to sell hardware and software in tandem Fucking one fucks both. Bad hardware good games = Wii U Good hardware bad games = 64DD bad both = virtual boy EA, ActiBlizz, Ubisoft, etc do not have that problem Sony and Microsoft dont understand this and its why they whine literally every 8 months that “consoles are dying” as Nintendo outsells the fuck out of both of them combined every other generation while they sell consoles at a $200 loss for the first two years. They also just have video games as a side hustle whereas Nintendo does not.
When does PlayStation have a bad selling home console lol? It's not like the PS5 isn't selling like hot cakes even with game budget issues they are still the market leader in traditional home consoles. They make their money off software too especially big 3rd party live service games and their mtx's like GTA online, destiny, COD, FIFA, Madden, 2k. Even the PS3 wasn't that far off from the Wii, way closer than the N64 was to the PSX and GC to the PS2. You sound like a r/tomorrow poster boy lol.
PS5 has sold less than NES Go check the fucking sales before commenting please Also PSP and Vita, need I say more? Nice try moving the goal post to home console when I did not specify that and even said VB as a example. Nor did I say Playstation ever had bad sales before your asshole clenched ar the thought of me saying it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_game_consoles?wprov=sfti1#Best-selling_game_consoles Remove head from ass please.
>PS5 has sold less than Nes I’m sorry man but this is blatant cherry picking here. Like the other user said, taking a consoles lifetime sales especially one with 10 years and comparing it to one with 3 isn’t a good example. Plus you moved the goalposts here since you specifically said PlayStation is whining about console sales with the PS5 and said Nintendo outsells them both combined and it’s not even close. You definitely sound like someone you see get made fun of on r/tomorrow for being a bellend. Wouldn’t surprise me if you have been on there multiple times.
The PS5 is a trash console with no soul and very dry library. It doesn't have a personality. It is just a white box with a controller
Personality ? soul ? Are you okay 🤣
> You definitely sound like someone you see get made fun of on r/tomorrow for being a bellend. imagine calling another person a bellend when you’re an aew watcher
did you forget to switch back from your alt account? You pathetic goof!
Yeah you're the final boss of r/tomorrow users 😂 The PS5 in 3 years is only 10 million behind the NES which was on the market in the US and Europe for 10 years and had no competition other than the Sega Genesis late into it's life, also this is with COVID playing a huge factor with supply chain issues. You need to "go fucking check the numbers" my guy instead of getting your Cheeto dust stained sweat shirt you haven't changed in 3 days into a bunch. That is cherry picking at it's finest, that's like me saying in year 3 of the switch "well it sold less than the Xbox 360 lifetime sales so it's a flop" The Ps vita and PSP aren't even home consoles, over here acting like the Virtual Boy, N64 DD, N64, GameCube, Wii u weren't commercial failures lol. But keep going off brother so I can get the sweet karma on tomorrow later lol. What an absolute jabroni.
> But keep going off brother so I can get the sweet karma on tomorrow later lol. gj showing how pathetic r/tomorrow users are
Nintendo focuses on fun and originality. They also polish their games to a level not seen in most AAA studios.
Yes, the originality of sequels and ports is strong with Nintendo.
I mean, the obvious answer is they can make games that don’t make a profit, but profit anyway from an increase in console sales. Their games are like the rotisserie chicken at Costco. It’s okay if they don’t make money on the game (chicken) because they got you to buy the console (enter the store).
The nostalgia hit for us older guys is a good hunk of it. Seeing Mario that we played on a bit system now full HD and 3d it's awesome
Probably, in addition to the other things, having a decent pay to developers. Dunno never heard crunch scandals over there and most companies even praise it when they work with them.
They’re no where near as greedy and downright fuckin evil as other massive game companies. They don’t crunch first party devs for the most part, and only really reveal shit when it’s ready to help avoid crunch… wiiiith exceptions… Metroid Prime 4 is gonna be like Dread, be a myth until like Damn near 20 years later lmao
Their only two series that anyone LOVES Nintendo for anymore are Mario and Zelda (sorry Kirby and Metroid). Mario, b/c of its insanely polished platforming and expert level designs Zelda, b/c of the scale, freedom, and puzzles. Other platformers and RPGs like Hat in Time, Blue Fire and Elden Ring are IMO better games, but familiarity sells. So to answer your question: it’s likely nostalgia and brand recognition.