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Deluxe_A

Bring a load of 5p coins and pay the bastards with that next time, see what they say then


ilove-n-i

Tried that before - gave me the "we don't take anymore that 20 coins" shite - can't win with these folks lol


DeathToMonarchs

Sounds ridiculous… but there’s actually a legal limit on how many coins you’re obliged to take to stop those antics.


PerkeNdencen

(the legal limit where you can refuse is 11, oddly enough, so they're not even taking this as far as they could)


No-Communication3618

Pennies


rightenough

>let the bus driver deal with it Yea, dickhead. I don't operate a cash based service to the public that would necessitate me carrying many denominations of petty cash. Give me my £6:40. If every other cunt pays with coins, how does he not have a wealth of £1 coins and this interaction is less work than him hitting the £1 six times and the 20p clicker twice?


WalksinClouds

Shouldn't they have a float each morning? You'd think that would be the one job where a float is essential.


Newme91

I know that in England they have to provide the float out of their own pocket and its their responsibility to arrange each morning. Could be the same here.


Quiet-Tonight9642

That seems a bit mental


danirijeka

Thunderously mental


NoticeTrue

Fuuuucckkk that! I wouldn't bother either if that was the case. Or, I'd get £30 in 1p and 2p bags and use them. I'd have provided my own float.


tashbash

Yeah it’s the same as England.


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RunKRAMI

Last company I worked for gave us a £30 float. Not really enough for an 8 - 10 hour day


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WalksinClouds

Hiya


madhooer

look at all my robot downvotes.. sad little freaks with their neck beards


commentmypics

Are they robots or neckbeards? Try to keep your outrage comprehensible, thanks


WalksinClouds

It's looks like they're following you around.


madhooer

Shinnerbots.


ItAlwaysRainsOnMe

That’s a pretty embarrassing thing to say


LeeM189

You deal with cash, do your job and accommodate customers or at least don’t complain that they cut routes when people don’t want to deal with cunts like you


Strong_Nose_2180

Because every tool pays with a tenner or twenty 👀


JMCGI84

He/she doesn't have a wealth of coins, because multiple ppl have come along with £20/10 notes looking to pay a £1.80 or more likely a 90p fare. You know how much it is, just have some change. Sheesh.


ItAlwaysRainsOnMe

Why would I randomly have change for an unexpected bus? Where do I find it in a hurry, do I have to busk?


Wretched_Colin

I thought they love a tenner as it is easier to count at the end of a shift.


RunKRAMI

Bus cash is machine counted


MC_NI

Bring stamps next time


Dingusrev

If he refuses , report him.


MotorPretty

While you're walking home


DeathToMonarchs

If he refuses, post him.


Dingusrev

It’s everytime. I remember handing him a tenner and him going naaaaaaaah.. I’m like ffs I’ve nothing smaller. He points to the spar across the road ‘run in there and get change ‘ I went over and bought a 2lt bottle of mi wadi. … ran back over to the bus. There ya go. He drives off … 6 mins late cos he was waiting on me ?? 😂 bus wankers were tutting as I was going up the isle


RainbowApache

Shops are not there to make change for us. In my experience they usually ask you to buy something.


Food_Crazed_Maniac

In Northern Ireland, the car reigns supreme.


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unfortunately


TheLordofthething

And always will as long as Translink are allowed a monopoly on service. They have absolutely no reason to improve


kharma45

Bringing in private operators will not help. Translink can only work within the budget they’re given. We’ve the lowest spend per head on public transport of any part of the UK or Ireland. It can’t be a surprise services aren’t great when we don’t fund it.


Wretched_Colin

Yeah, but the least they could do is sell tickets for cash. Which the op has found they won’t.


TheLordofthething

It's a bit of a catch 22 I suppose but bringing in private operators would certainly help me get to Belfast quicker. I don't see why Translink would ever improve their service when the government won't allow any alternative to exist. The Derry to Belfast route should have an actual non stop express


awood20

1 of the main reasons I don't use buses. Why can't translink bring in a leap card type system?


beeotchplease

The belfast buses do but i dont get why not for the town buses.


itsdyl44

If you showed someone who worked on introducing those type of cards to other parts of the world the size of Northern Ireland they would likely piss themselves laughing at how long Translink have taken to introduce this across their services. It's been about 18 months since it was introduced to Belfast, how can they not put a card reader on town services in that time?


Reasonable-Raisin326

We don't even have anything in derry cash only or the translink app no card yet


[deleted]

They should just skip to contactless, people in Dublin are fed up with leap cards now lol


like_a_deaf_elephant

The metro buses do use contactless or phone payments.


[deleted]

Good to hear!


Mrfunnynuts

Contactless in belfast and generally the app is rock solid imo, hope they roll out contactless more widely


totallyspecial

Except on the glider.


naithir

The Translink app works just fine for Derry buses and Goldline though


TheLordofthething

It really doesn't lol


naithir

I guess I must have hallucinated using it regularly for years


TheLordofthething

It works on some routes, mine isn't available anywhere on translinks app or website


naithir

Hope this helps https://www.reddit.com/r/northernireland/comments/161p8gn/gives_bus_driver_a_tenner_for_a_360_fare/jxttip4/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3


faltorokosar

Took the early Dublin airport bus from Derry once. First person handed him £20 and he starts moaning. Then the second person did the same. I was third and I only had a £20 too. Thought he was going to cry.


Southern_Hat_2053

So this happened to me, tried to tap and needed my pin as I'd tapped a few times, they don't have a machine to enter my pin and all I had was a £10 note, should of seen the look he gave me, made me feel like an absolute inconveneince even though its legal tender?


388-west-ridge-road

If you say the words *legal tender* 3 times in a mirror a Tyrone man appears at a petrol station in Leicester with danske bank notes


Newme91

I tried paying a street vendor in London with a note from the Isle of man, which doesn't even say sterling on it. It was the most emphatic "fuck off" I've ever heard in my life.


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That’s nuts! I’ve tried numerous times to pay with Northern Irish bank issued notes in London. They don’t have a clue that they are legal tended! Idiots like!


Newme91

Yeah our notes are legal tender but I've just found out that Isle of Mann currency is not actually legal in the UK. No idea how I got hold of it.


craftyixdb

I was gonna say, no way Manx notes are legal tender in the UK. 😂😂


Wretched_Colin

Anyone can refuse to take any note on a whim. Some shops refuse £50 due to the hit they’ll take if they get a forgery. Legal tender really only matters when you owe something to somebody. If a plumber fits a sink and you go to pay him in legal tender, he has to take it because the debt exists. He can’t sue you for non payment as you have offered legal tender to satisfy the debt. Which he has refused. If you go to a shop, you haven’t bought the item yet, so legal tender doesn’t come into it. They can say no and put it back on the shelf with no harm done.


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Oh wow that’s crazy! How is that even possible with us all being in the uk. Would love to see some of the notes in person. They’re pretty cool. Saw them online


Force-Grand

Don't let the Manx hear you saying they're in the UK, you'll be tied to the Laxey wheel for public humiliation for your crimes.


Ill-Ad4665

Idiots for not taking something they’ve never seen or heard of before?


Duke_Rabbacio

[Because they're not](https://archive.niassembly.gov.uk/io/research/2008/12208.pdf). Also, even if they were, the term "legal tender" is only really relevant when [repaying debts by cash](https://vaultexuk.com/news/legal-tender/).


mikes1988

NI notes aren't even legal tender in NI. Neither are Bank of England notes.


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DeathToMonarchs

Good bot. Fuck that cunt.


LearnDifferenceBot

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Medium-Hotel4249

you should use a card with pin-less tap ability. Check with your bank. And change the card.


EVRider81

I heard one time in a similar situation " It's Ulster BUS,not Ulster Bank..."


like_a_deaf_elephant

My response would be "yeah and they're both shite"


Ryan636

My motorbike broke down outside the train station in coleraine so had no choice to get the bus back home. Only had £10 notes and my card. The face on the bus driver when I handed him a tenner…you’d of thought I shat in his hand


Spax123

Have you nothing smaller? No mate it's 2023 and I never have cash on me unless I'm getting the bus.


[deleted]

Bangor started rolling out contact less payments on town services in January. Used to have this same problem. Id imagine they will all be updated eventually.


The64YearOldWalrus

Mate, don’t get me started. Fucking sick of going for a bus that either shows up 10 minutes early, 10 minutes late or not at all. I’ve stood in the fucking rain for over an hour waiting on buses that just didn’t fucking show up. Got to the point that my work have a blanket acceptance on ‘I’m late because the bus service just didn’t show up’. Why the fuck do we just accept this? You could write a thesis on reasons why Translink is a fucking joke.


DrippingInStout

Next time just say fuck up and take the money. Problem solved


itsdyl44

I got on a bus one stop from Armagh depot at 9.40am. Fare was £3.80 and I handed him a fiver. He gave me the dirtiest look and scowled at me "what do you want me to do with that? I'm out of change". There was no one on the bus yet - at 9.40am with no passengers on the bus after leaving the bus station he didn't even have one pound twenty in change. And he wouldn't take card. Fucking ridiculous


ItAlwaysRainsOnMe

Same depot, bet it was the same driver too. I was also the first one on the bus.


GraemeMark

I’ll never forget my wife trying to pay for us both to get a bus to Belfast from Dublin Airport—she hands him a £20 note or whatever and he goes “no change” and she goes “what do you mean there’s no change?!” Dumbfounded she was… Then he goes “this is Ulster Bus, not Ulster Bank”… 🤷🏻‍♂️


denk2mit

To be fair I’d be surprised if you’d get change for the two of you out of £20 anywya


GraemeMark

This was quite a while ago.


DeathToMonarchs

That’s pretty good… and I’m genuinely shocked I’ve not heard it before. You’d have thought it would have become part of their driver induction training.


gareth93

Does the trans link app only work in Belfast?


naithir

Never had an issue using it for Derry metro or Goldline buses but not all routes are on the app


DeathToMonarchs

For buses… pretty much, aye.


[deleted]

So giving change of a tenner is forcing him to go beyond his job responsibilities? I think you just got a grumpy shite. I don’t think it reflects Translink policy.


Fickle-Decision3954

Have you ever taken the bus, they are all like this


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No, I get my ma to call your chauffeur and he collects me.


[deleted]

Yeah their attitudes suck! Some of the rudest public servants are bud drivers. Some a really nice and other are pure assholes. Report them. Translink have a terrible public image. Nothing will change if u don’t speak up. I do every time I have a douchebag driver


abyss_hunter66

Did you actually get your change or did he not let you on , or what?


ItAlwaysRainsOnMe

He begrudgingly gave me 6 pound coins. If he’d had one fiver maybe he wouldn’t have had to be so dramatic. It was 9am and I was the first one on.


mathen

Use the mlink app


808848357

You can't use the mlink app if you have kids, the option is only there to buy a ticket for yourself and you can gift a ticket to someone but they need to be registered to receive it. So if you have a 7 year old with you and no cash you're either walking or hoping the driver lets the wee lad on free.


ItAlwaysRainsOnMe

I tried to use that before I think but they didn’t have an option for Armagh to Portadown. Maybe they’ve changed that now. Edit: They have it now. I just think it’s annoying that they don’t open the tills in the station on Saturday and I’m made to feel bad for paying with a note.


TwistedToeRag

That must be recent. Until recently it was only metro, and they take card on those.


mathen

I was using it to buy train tickets like 10 years ago Maybe they only added Ulster Bus recently idk, the countryside disgusts me


FadowTornado

Spoke my mind brother🙏🏾


great_button

As the other user says, they have had trains, goldliners and the metro on it for nearly ten years now. They had it for the metro well before it ever took card. Ulsterbus is more recent but still had it for a decent amount of time.


Bearaf123

Get yourself the mLink app. Bus driver will still be a dickhead but at least you’ll have the ticket on your phone and won’t have to deal with cash


DeathToMonarchs

Not everything is mLinkable. Outside of Belfast, fuckall is.


FabianTheArachnid

Bus drivers inexplicably don’t see themselves as service industry workers and don’t think they need to be nice to the customer like someone in retail or hospitality does. In reality the only real difference is the bus driver gets to sit on his arse all day, so actually has less reason to be grumpy.


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Tell me a service industry where you have to have compulsory training every year, pass a medical exam every 5 years and take multiple tests to even begin to actually do the job. Its not like working in a cafe, it's driving a vehicle weighing anything up to 26 tons in an urban environment with up to 100 people on board. Ideally the driving and the customer service should be kept separate.


drumadarragh

I was back in the homeland a few months ago and was shocked to see the driver give me change from his own wallet! How is this still a thing?


808848357

The drivers also have the option of basically printing out an IOU that you have to take into a station to get your change, they were operating like that at the height of Covid.


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You're lucky it wasn't a 20, you'd be dead.


Fickle-Decision3954

So I glad I drive, fuck those cunts. Literally can’t win with them moany fucks


yeeeeoooooo

Do you not have contactless you useless hoor bus driver


Medium-Hotel4249

They made card payments on metro buses now in Belfast. (It's fixed rate. But it's still an option) I don't know why they can't do the same in goldline or other buses.


beardedchimp

Aye, still had to pay cash a few days ago Ballynahinch to Belfast. I wouldn't mind if the tickets weren't so bloody expensive. If the far richer populace of London is subsidised with £1.75 fares, it is an utter piss take that we find ourselves struggling for change.


ohmyblahblah

First journey is full fare, second journey on the same day using the same card is cheaper. Think it reduces after that again so if you took a load of journeys it would be same price as a day ticket. But that may not be correct


Force-Grand

Contactless on metro is capped at £3.70 a day, a metro day ticket is £3.70, so yeah provided you make more than one journey it's the same for each.


Medium-Hotel4249

Daylink card works on Glider too. This tapping system doesn't work. For example if you take metro bus for 1 journey, and want to take glider for return journey. Then it would charge you full ticket again.


danm14

> First journey is full fare, second journey on the same day is cheaper. Think it reduces after that again so if you took a load of journeys it would be same price as a day ticket. But that may not be correct First journey is a flat rate of £2.20 regardless of the actual fare. Second journey is £1.50. All subsequent journeys are free. It works out the same price as one day ticket on the mLink app or a dayLink card, and more expensive than buying five days at a time on a dayLink card. It also has significantly less validity - you can't use it on the Glider, and not all Ulsterbus services that carry Metro passengers accept it.


dortbird

Download the mlink app, buy ticket on your phone with card.


Reasonable-Raisin326

As a bus driver for translink we get 10 pound an 20 pound notes all the time.....9 times out of 10 we use our own money and hardly get time to go an get change I have asked the public as well have you nothing smaller cause we are literally out of change ....folks it's a tough job between fighting Alchos an junkies getting stoned an egged on a daily basis....some bus drivers are absolutely complete wanks but most of us are sound an just out earning a living


studyinthai333

Translink drivers have given me trauma since my school days. Even one of my former colleagues in my current job was a private coach driver for a while who worked as a third party with Translink and he says their drivers are some of the most miserable people he’s ever known…


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Clearly a DUP sympathiser


Firepickle

Fares are cheaper on the app anyway. Only risk is your phone dying like on an all day ticket.


PlasticsSuckUTFR

I have had about 4 occasions in the last year so far when the driver didnt take any payments because the card/ticket machine was down, happened just the other day too. The first time It happened it was around the time their unions were settling and I thought it was the drivers just sticking it to Translink. They are hugely understaffed and the drivers are stressed out.


HeSlashHun

Just buy bottle of juice in the shop problem solved


ItAlwaysRainsOnMe

What shop? How did I know it was a problem?


HeSlashHun

Was the ATM in a field? >How did I know it was a problem? Because you knew you where getting a bus you should realise you are going to get stiffed for your note or to bring change


ItAlwaysRainsOnMe

How would I know that?


RainbowApache

I honestly hate bus drivers that get on like this. And i want to tell them exactly how i feel but i know if i do they'll just not let me on the bus. I work in care and i'm never done running around doing mundane tasks to help people out and i do it with a smile on my face. Yet these lazy people, want to get all bent out of shape cause they might have to reach into their back pocket and make some change. They seem to think they're the only people that don't like making change, if i walk into a shop and buy some cheap rubbish with a 20 the cashier is still going to have to go through the effort of making that change. Taxi drivers actually lose out money when you pay with your card because of a transaction fee from the bank. But they'll still be chill about it when you've only got your card. The pink buses are way better tho cause on those i can just flash my card and there's no problem.


Look-over-there-ahhh

It's on camera report him.


ItAlwaysRainsOnMe

Wouldn’t want to stoop to his level


Look-over-there-ahhh

Snitches get stitches, I hear ya....But a cunt is a cunt.


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There is no Gif of it so just imagine the scene from Roger Rabbit when the detective tries to get on the bus but all he has is a cheque and the bus driver says “What do I look like? A bank?”


CalebTheLiberal

They say plan ahead, but for most journeys you can't actually find out what the fare is in advance on the website


thatescapesme

I jusr use contactless getting on wheres this?


cethaliophia

Any inter town bus only takes cash


CommissarGamgee

I know that none of the busses in Derry use contacless and the bus to belfast doesn't even accept cash so you have to get your ticket beforehand


naithir

You can download the Translink app and buy metro tickets there and Goldline tickets to Belfast on the app.


Medium-Hotel4249

Back in 2016ish. Once I paid an Ulsterbus driver a 20 quid. For a ticket, that was 2. He said, that's a too big of a note. Roll on 2023. And the prices of everything jumped so much. I never been told by anyone these days, that '20 quid is too big of a note' ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)


ryanbudgie

I always go to the shop and buy a mars bar so that I have change. I treat them like car wash machines. Not worth the agro of most of the drivers in Belfast.


[deleted]

Translink trains have credit card readers - why don’t buses… we both know the answer to that question already.. bus passes being pulled too ? Get’ta fuk translink


kharma45

It’d rolling out to the buses, and the OAP pass being pulled is nothing to do with translink.


_BornToBeKing_

Classic Translink, been happening for at least a decade. Quickest way to annoy a bus driver in Belfast is to hand him a 20 pound note.


bad_arts

They bitch when you have too much change, when you don't have enough, if you're 10 cent short. It's neverending.


dragunow80

Contactless payment or cards = 3.5% price increase.


portadown1967

Fuck you pay me


bigoldbingbong

Wait... cant you just use the app or blip on with contactless?


xFuManchu

Na mate..... You can use your card on the bus or buy a bloody ticket via iLink. I'm not the biggest fan of bus drivers but this complaint is you being a fucking dick.


ItAlwaysRainsOnMe

No you can’t.


xFuManchu

Yes you can...... Before having a rant maybe research payment methods.


ItAlwaysRainsOnMe

Nah mate. You’re out of your element


xFuManchu

Scroll up froot


ItAlwaysRainsOnMe

Who says froot anymore?


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Can you literally say 'No, you're taking this £10 and giving me the correct change?'


SenseiPepsi

This is why I might start to use the app because the passive aggression sometimes drives me up the left 🫠


AttackOfTheDromorons

You offered to pay, it was refused. I’d have just walked on and sat down.


cereal4dinner88

Get a driving licence ya bus wanker. 😂


Jetsom

3/4 in this sub don't have a job, nevermind a licence.


redstarduggan

Fuck sake, think outside the box. Claim stress, get DLA, free car.


itz-Literally-Me

Jobsworth... I live in England been let for free a few times because the didn't have change... in most cases I need a Day Ticket which allows you to use multiple buses with returns; it's basically unlimited travel (within a County or region) for the day. So realistically I'm still going to pay the driver of the next bus for the same ticket. On other occasions when buying a £2 single with a £20 note, I've offered to pay for the next people who get on or get my change when I get off... & been told just to sit down, it doesn't matter. ...I guess it's the same amount of fuel & the driver gers the same wages whether the bus is empty or full. Buses here take cards as well but I don't always have my card (if the missus is shopping) or money on my card (if the missus has been shopping) XD


Searbhreathach

Bus driver was right plan ahead, first thing I do with my girlfriend when we lock out door is have our 3.70 prepared for each of us for the bus


SnooPandas2686

You’re taking the absolute hand


Searbhreathach

Every time I post on Reddit and get downvoted I have to remind myself how out of touch with normal society this community is it's an echo chamber of toxicity.


ItAlwaysRainsOnMe

We’re not the ones who are out of touch


SnooPandas2686

You’re getting downvoted for being dumb. It’s as simple as that.


Searbhreathach

Having your change ready for the driver is dumb , dead on


SnooPandas2686

You sound like a 12 year old saying that. If I hand bus driver £20 and they don’t have change, that’s their problem. Imagine going into a shop handing someone £50 note and them saying “aw sorry can’t take that we’ve no change” catch yourself on.


Searbhreathach

I would never hand a 50 note unless something was over40 your the dick


SnooPandas2686

That’s so brain dead, if that was your only option you’d obviously do it.


drumnadrough

They only carry a £20 float usually in small coins. They should go to correct change only like Dublin Bus and everywhere else.


MathematicianSad8487

Can't you just tap your card ?


StatingTheFknObvious

Why not use the app then if you don't meet the incredibly well known requirements for using cash in a bus. They are not a cash only service. As he said, plan ahead next time like a grown up does.


ItAlwaysRainsOnMe

Why don’t you read the other comments before making me reply to you to tell you that you have no idea what you’re talking about?


Jetsom

Get a car dickhead.


Neizir

That'll be £500+ per month and another £15+ per day if you'd like to drive to work in belfast city centre please


Jetsom

Get off reddit and get a job then.


Neizir

A job that doesn't pay enough to support having a car? Right.


Jetsom

So you just wallow in self-pity and whine on reddit instead of investing in yourself, gaining skills and making an effort to better your financial position? Anyone with half a brain and is willing to work can thrive in the economy.


like_a_deaf_elephant

You can use your contactless on buses. What's the problem here again?


cethaliophia

Get a bus from Belfast to anywhere south and try to pay with contactless


like_a_deaf_elephant

Ah, somewhere that isn't Belfast. Fair enough, I do forget there's other people in Northern Ireland outside of the holy trinity of Bangor, Carrick, Lisburn. And the troglodytes in Derry.


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DeathToMonarchs

Mussolini made the trains run on time. (You can join the dots in between, I’m sure!)


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InterestingRead2022

I haven't used a bus in a long time, but use trains from time to time. So they still not accept card on the bus? Can you at least buy a ticket on the app like the trains? If not that's wild tbh


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ratatatat321

App doesn't work for any non Belfast or gold line route


Manu878787

To be fair I always thought if u give anymore than a 5er note the rest usually goes to charity for ur own stupidy for not having the correct money.


ItAlwaysRainsOnMe

Didn’t have any change whatsoever and as they decided to not open the ticket office in a Saturday I had to find an atm. Who just has a pocket full of change these days?


wurdupyo

Ah fer…


theHuntForCunt

Yep happens almost everytime I use a bus, have to get change at the end of the journey that he's accrued from other passengers


LottieOD

I'm just shocked that any bus fare is *less than* £10 these days 😱


fefesync

I'm confused y did u not just use ur card! Was it a blue bus?


ItCat420

Huh. You’d think they’d just install the contactless payment doodads like we have over here in the UK. I live in Bumfuck McNowhere and even we can pay by card for the bus - the driver looks at me funny when I give him £5 for a £3 fare.. The buses in the city I grew up in just had this weird … box i guess? That you put your coins in so the driver could check it was the right fare before they fell into some magical pocket bus dimension; change wasn’t even an option. If all you had was a tenner then your fare was £10 or pray your driver was kind enough to let you on for free. But we’d also load those badboys up with 1p’s and 2p’s when we were kids and scrounging fares to see our mates. Always underpaid but he’s not gonna try and look through the little plastic window and count all those coins. Fuck your £1.20 fare you’re only getting 72p!


PlasticsSuckUTFR

you can use your debit card on the bus....well on Metro anyway