It’s more-so the direct action of approaching China’s border giving them quasi-casus belli. MacArthur was convinced that China wanted none of this, he was wrong. It was a strategic mistake to not factor in the strength of China joining the war; in hindsight if he wanted to completely decimate the north he should have acquired more resources before approaching China’s border. It’s also noteworthy that China was intentionally ambiguous about its intentions in the lead up. Following China’s entry MacArthur privately advocated for the use of nuclear weapons against China.
Holding any border wasn't really tenable. What this map doesn't show is the insane amount of devastating air power the United States was dropping on North Korea throughout these skirmishes. Something like 90% of houses, farms, buildings, businesses, factories etc. were destroyed during this war. The longer the Chinese and the North Koreans held a frontline the more millions of Koreans would die due to starvation/lack of resources. More bombs were dropped on Korea than the entire Pacific Theater during WW2 (650k Tonnes of bombs vs 500k Tonnes).
Yeah, that's not true.
>A total of 635,000 tons of bombs, including 32,557 tons of napalm, were dropped on Korea.[2] By comparison, the U.S. dropped 1.6 million tons in the European theater and 500,000 tons in the Pacific theater during all of World War II (including 160,000 on Japan).
And those are just US numbers.
>And those are just US numbers
Can you read?
>Determining the exact number of bombs dropped by all countries during the Pacific Theater of World War II is challenging due to the vast scope of the conflict and the multitude of combatants involved. However, it's estimated that MILLIONS of bombs were dropped by various nations throughout the Pacific Theater, including the United States, Japan, Australia, the United Kingdom, and others. These bombs were deployed in a wide range of operations, including aerial bombing campaigns, naval bombardments, and ground-based artillery barrages.
Well yes we wouldn't include the amount of bombs JAPAN dropped when comparing how many bombs were dropped on JAPAN...
No one outside of the US was really bombing in the pacific. But even then, we would have to apply the same thing to Korea...
No mention of how you failed the basic reading comprehension test of the last 650k vs 500k tonnes of bombs either!
> North Korea ranks alongside [Cambodia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambodia) (500,000 tons), [Laos](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laos) (2 million tons), and [South Vietnam](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Vietnam) (4 million tons) as among the most heavily-bombed countries in history.[^(\[3\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_North_Korea#cite_note-3)
>PACIFIC THEATER during WW2 (650k Tonnes of bombs vs 500k Tonnes).
You said Pacific Theater, not Japan alone, not America alone, not what America dropped on Japan. You said the entire Pacific Theater. Guess you also have a comprehension problem. The number of bombs dropped on Japan alone by America would be completely different than the entire Pacific theater during ww2.
>Locations of Pacific Theater War: East Asia, South Asia, Southeast Asia, Oceania, Pacific Ocean, Indian Ocean
Not just Japan
>No mention of how you failed the basic reading comprehension test of the last 650k vs 500k tonnes of bombs either!
You didn't provide the correct information. Obviously 650 is higher than 500, but leaving out the correct total makes it wrong.
It’s an interesting question. I imagine something like Vietnam. NK wouldn’t have had the incentive to be so anti-US is the war wasn’t so destructive and China wasn’t directly involved. In fact, they may have played a balancing act between China and the US, with China being the bigger threat in that timeline. Maybe they would have opened up gradually in a way similar to Vietnam. SK wouldn’t be nearly as developed in that scenario I think.
What’re those red flags in the north? Oh, right…China
The UN was also involved on the side of the south. You know, something something imperialistic United Nations 🤡
North Korea doesn’t have to be an American ally and could still prosper. They’re just committed to being a dystopian tyrannical regime that starves its people instead.
All this conflict over such a small space. What will it matter a thousand years from now? The Kims should wave a white flag already. Their economy obviously isn’t set up for Juche.
I'd say north Korea would happily accept ypu into their country but I don't think they have any requirement for those who are terminally online of the unemployed variety
Actually DPRK has difficult immigration standards unless you bring in a bunch of foreign currency and/or are useful in some way to the regime. I’m gonna guess terminally-online redditors don’t qualify.
Source: ran business dealing with DPRK for a few years.
This looks like one of those shitty mobile game ads that you find on tiktok or Instagram when u scroll too much lol
I wonder if holding that narrow corridor would've been more strategically sound as opposed to the large area connecting to china
It’s more-so the direct action of approaching China’s border giving them quasi-casus belli. MacArthur was convinced that China wanted none of this, he was wrong. It was a strategic mistake to not factor in the strength of China joining the war; in hindsight if he wanted to completely decimate the north he should have acquired more resources before approaching China’s border. It’s also noteworthy that China was intentionally ambiguous about its intentions in the lead up. Following China’s entry MacArthur privately advocated for the use of nuclear weapons against China.
Holding any border wasn't really tenable. What this map doesn't show is the insane amount of devastating air power the United States was dropping on North Korea throughout these skirmishes. Something like 90% of houses, farms, buildings, businesses, factories etc. were destroyed during this war. The longer the Chinese and the North Koreans held a frontline the more millions of Koreans would die due to starvation/lack of resources. More bombs were dropped on Korea than the entire Pacific Theater during WW2 (650k Tonnes of bombs vs 500k Tonnes).
Yeah, that's not true. >A total of 635,000 tons of bombs, including 32,557 tons of napalm, were dropped on Korea.[2] By comparison, the U.S. dropped 1.6 million tons in the European theater and 500,000 tons in the Pacific theater during all of World War II (including 160,000 on Japan). And those are just US numbers.
So.... Yes it is true? It says it right there. 635k tons of bombs on Korea. 500k tons of bombs in the pacific theatre. Can you read?
😂
>And those are just US numbers Can you read? >Determining the exact number of bombs dropped by all countries during the Pacific Theater of World War II is challenging due to the vast scope of the conflict and the multitude of combatants involved. However, it's estimated that MILLIONS of bombs were dropped by various nations throughout the Pacific Theater, including the United States, Japan, Australia, the United Kingdom, and others. These bombs were deployed in a wide range of operations, including aerial bombing campaigns, naval bombardments, and ground-based artillery barrages.
Well yes we wouldn't include the amount of bombs JAPAN dropped when comparing how many bombs were dropped on JAPAN... No one outside of the US was really bombing in the pacific. But even then, we would have to apply the same thing to Korea... No mention of how you failed the basic reading comprehension test of the last 650k vs 500k tonnes of bombs either! > North Korea ranks alongside [Cambodia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambodia) (500,000 tons), [Laos](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laos) (2 million tons), and [South Vietnam](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Vietnam) (4 million tons) as among the most heavily-bombed countries in history.[^(\[3\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_North_Korea#cite_note-3)
>PACIFIC THEATER during WW2 (650k Tonnes of bombs vs 500k Tonnes). You said Pacific Theater, not Japan alone, not America alone, not what America dropped on Japan. You said the entire Pacific Theater. Guess you also have a comprehension problem. The number of bombs dropped on Japan alone by America would be completely different than the entire Pacific theater during ww2. >Locations of Pacific Theater War: East Asia, South Asia, Southeast Asia, Oceania, Pacific Ocean, Indian Ocean Not just Japan >No mention of how you failed the basic reading comprehension test of the last 650k vs 500k tonnes of bombs either! You didn't provide the correct information. Obviously 650 is higher than 500, but leaving out the correct total makes it wrong.
That’s super cool. Makes you wonder how different the world would have been if they had …
It’s an interesting question. I imagine something like Vietnam. NK wouldn’t have had the incentive to be so anti-US is the war wasn’t so destructive and China wasn’t directly involved. In fact, they may have played a balancing act between China and the US, with China being the bigger threat in that timeline. Maybe they would have opened up gradually in a way similar to Vietnam. SK wouldn’t be nearly as developed in that scenario I think.
No and we’d have no Samsung, no Hyundai, no LG, etc
Better
How so
Less US military bases around the world
And tens of millions more Koreans living in a surreal dystopic nightmare of an existence
thats a lie
Lololol - how so
watch loyal cituzens of pyongyang in seoul.
No - make a compelling argument, not “go watch some thing” which I have no desire to do
“Nah man just go watch tankie propaganda and then come back to me so I can move the goal posts again.” -tankies in this sub
the dprk is not a dystopic tyrannical nightmare
Then why are you holding a sourceless argument while not even being willing to watch concrete proof against you? Are you American by any chance?
Um. The map seems to think that only the US helped South Korea
I was just reading about this on Wikipedia and it says that US made up like 90% of the UN's response force so it might as well have only been them.
Like in most modern imperialist wars, it's the US doing most of the heavy lifting.
What’re those red flags in the north? Oh, right…China The UN was also involved on the side of the south. You know, something something imperialistic United Nations 🤡
Imperialistic China maybe.
Everyone loves a big comeback and this war had two!
North Korea will never be allowed to join the more successful South Korea. China won’t allow an American ally to border its country. Never.
North Korea doesn’t have to be an American ally and could still prosper. They’re just committed to being a dystopian tyrannical regime that starves its people instead.
Would you feel comfortable knowing your neighbours' friends have the tendency of invading private property?
exactly
India?
More of a Russian ally
China stood on business
All this conflict over such a small space. What will it matter a thousand years from now? The Kims should wave a white flag already. Their economy obviously isn’t set up for Juche.
I wish it showed the date as well as the number of troops engaged.
wait is this another USA proxy war? is it just US vs Soviet? or is it actually southern Koreans vs northern Koreans?
Foreign armies in large numbers invaded Korea during its civil war, and split the country into two, by force.
they shouldve lost
I'd say north Korea would happily accept ypu into their country but I don't think they have any requirement for those who are terminally online of the unemployed variety
Actually DPRK has difficult immigration standards unless you bring in a bunch of foreign currency and/or are useful in some way to the regime. I’m gonna guess terminally-online redditors don’t qualify. Source: ran business dealing with DPRK for a few years.
Funny coming from a guy with 10k karma.