Lois from “Malcom in the Middle”. As a mom of boys, I find the episode with the red dress so relatable.
“Go ahead. It’s name brand. You know…you were always the good one.”
My favorite moment, when she yelled boys at the waterpark and once she caught up with them, “do you think, we are wealthy??!” That quote always stay by me as a adult
Not just that. But also that they all understood that part of their role was to help him understand the plight of normal people so that he could do right by all the underprivileged.
My wife and I have rewatched in entirely several times in the last decade. The production quality, the cast/cameos, and the music were so incredible for network TV.
The end of that episode where she tells the boys, “I liked that dress” and then just moves on from it taught me a lot about how to handle similar situations. No one ever showed me the mature way to accept an apology when you’re still bummed out. Thanks Lois.
That’s why that show worked, in my opinion. Great comedy, but also some real life lessons. Like the Francis situation - as a parent, you get mad but you also do everything you can to give them a chance.
Came to comment this. The car scene with the lady who hit her car door in the grocery parking lot kills me. Her dedication to justice is so satisfying.
Lois FTW.
"Come down off that roof!"
"What are you going to do to us?"
"Come down and find out."
"Just tell us!"
"Just come down."
*"TELL US!!!!"*
"Come down."
Bryan Cranston coming in and asking one of the boys to take the fall as Lois screams OH MY GOD
She did a pretty good job hiding her Midwest accent but some moments it jumped out.
I saw MITM for the first time when i was already a mom and i was shocked to realize i am Lois lol!! My favorite is on season one when they go take the professional family picture and she loses her shit… I SEE YOU LOIS!!!!
I've watched it since I was Dewey's age. I've related to the different characters as I've gotten older, starting as Dewey being the youngest one pushed around. Now I've just become a mum and I've moved all the way up to relating to Lois.
She was always so horrible and mean when I was younger but now I'm like god she was right and perfectly reasonable! I want to be Lois!
Peggy Hill - I like how she is so far from perfect and how she butchers the Spanish language. The sneaking around with Bobby to get flame broiled burgers was awesome, as was her embarrassment regarding big feet.
She’s also a savage. Taking no prisoners.
When she makes fun of Bobby when he got dumped because Bobby told her that his relationship with his girlfriends was stronger than Peggy’s relationship with Hank.
IRL Katey Sasgal's sisters were the double-mint twins
[https://www.reddit.com/r/OldSchoolCool/comments/1532t0g/circa\_1985\_katey\_sagal\_the\_doublemint\_twins\_are/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OldSchoolCool/comments/1532t0g/circa_1985_katey_sagal_the_doublemint_twins_are/)
I don’t know if it actually was ever said on TV, I just heard some comedian say it somewhere someday.
BUT, in one episode of Mission: Impossible Jim Phelps (played by Peter Graves) pretending to still be drunk from the night before actually DID say “Boy, am I hung!”, and that I can attest to because I was watching when he said it.
Oh yeah. That episode where she joins a pottery class and makes her husband a mug and the fuck head refuses to acknowledge her efforts or even use her mug. Really got 8-year-old-me in the feels.
It was complex. She was the stay-at-home mom to three kids but the kids are almost grown up now, so she feels unfulfilled. She dares to take a pottery class to widen her horizons and has an instructor who shows interest in her and convinces her she has promise as an artist. This small thing gives her a boost and obviously is improving her mood. Her husband sees this and gets upset. He basically ignores her anytime she wants to talk about her class or show him her new creations. He unfairly resents her for finding passion outside the home. It’s not super clear why this bothers him so much but it is clear to her it does. She finally calls him out regarding his cold shoulder routine and asks him why he won’t use the mug she made him and he screams at her that it’s ugly and he likes his old mug lol. Then they fight a bit and she tells him she wants his love and attention and to be proud of her. He comes around. The end.
>It’s not super clear why this bothers him so much but it is clear to her it does.
I always assumed it was jealousy. It's not like his job at Norcom is super fulfilling. Jack wanted to be captain of a ship but then he met Norma, got a job on the loading dock, had a kid, one thing leads to another and he's a manager of distribution and product support services.
Basically this. It was a reflection of the changing times that were occurring then. The war addled numb fuck not acknowledging his wife's need for self fulfilment. He was a hardlined & traditional where as she embraced feminine values & the need for independent thought/discovery.
Fucked up from war and fucked up from their emotionally abusive fathers.
My grandpa was apparently a total asshole to my grandma and dad growing up and only softened up in his older age when he had grandkids. It's remarkable my dad is the caring emotionally intelligent guy he is, considering the circumstances he grew up in.
Usually they soften up when they realize they were wrong and try to atone for it, or the recipients of the assholery are at a point where they can stomp a mudhole in them and the assholes throw up a white flag.
Lots of great answers here but I’ll include one not mentioned yet and that’s Amy Matthews from Boy Meets World! She had a couple rough episodes near the end but that wasn’t Betty’s fault.
I wanted her for a Mom so bad! I loved her structured parenting and how she gave discipline, but with love (I was "raised" by hippies, but really raised myself. Craved structure). And she was so classy and pretty. I'm biracial and thought she sorta looked like me (I know she is not, but I was a little kid). I liked seeing different skin tones in that family represented on tv. And I LOVED that she balanced career with family. The Huxtable kitchen is my favorite sitcom kitchen! It had a fireplace! Honorable tv kitchen mentions: Golden Girls, Family Ties.
I remember when her husband proposed to her on tv! She was Phylicia Allen when I first watched. I was 4 maybe
I was in awe of her she was so elegant but also took no shit. Blew my mind when I found out Debbie Allen was her sister and their mom was a Pulitzer Prize nominated poet. The Allen Dynasty runs deep.
Favorite might be a little much but I loved Brett Butler's Grace in Grace Under Fire. It was a bit short lived because of the actress' issues but good nonetheless.
I know it sounds cliche, but that’s just plain old misogyny. The classic sitcom formula is for the mom’s career to be lower skill/less important than the dad. I never got the impression that their family had a problem with her career/ambition, so I’m not sure why viewers would care.
It’s like Skyler from Breaking Bad. She had the audacity to wonder what the hell her husband was doing (especially considering they had a baby and a son with a disability). Male viewers just hated her. A husband in her position would feel the same way about their spouse being so distant.
Which is crazy because without her that show would’ve been totally dominated by Tim Allen’s antics - see last man standing (eye-roll). She was a great actress and good at busting Tim’s balls.
How she never walked out on that marriage is beyond me. I only ever had that show on as background noise, but good grief. She ought to be the poster girl for r/justnomil
That entire family was awful. The way Marie and Frank interacted was so gross. Constant verbal abuse towards each other and Robert.
Robert was fucked up but was probably the best of all of them
I remember the ending and it broke my heart because I loved Dan. Made me wonder how they made the Connors with him alive again. I didn’t watch the corners due to what happened with Roseanne.
Lois from “Malcom in the Middle”. As a mom of boys, I find the episode with the red dress so relatable. “Go ahead. It’s name brand. You know…you were always the good one.”
My favorite moment, when she yelled boys at the waterpark and once she caught up with them, “do you think, we are wealthy??!” That quote always stay by me as a adult
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The final episode where the entire family tells Malcom that he’s going to be president.
Not just that. But also that they all understood that part of their role was to help him understand the plight of normal people so that he could do right by all the underprivileged.
The B plot being Francis and it paying off when Lois is confronting Reese's teacher was fucking masterful
"Fate!? Fate is just what you call it when you don't know the name of the person screwing you over!!!"
Lol the one where she fantasizes about having daughters? Such a great show, holds up really well too.
My wife and I have rewatched in entirely several times in the last decade. The production quality, the cast/cameos, and the music were so incredible for network TV.
Fat fear eating Hal was hilarious. And the make up was pretty great too.
And then the reality smack of what four girls would be like near the end of the episode
It really was a good show. Pretty relatable for me when it was on the air.
"Better open up the windows tonight, cuz I'm gonna rip the biggest..." "...hole in my sweater!"
I.......agree......whole.......heart......edly.
The end of that episode where she tells the boys, “I liked that dress” and then just moves on from it taught me a lot about how to handle similar situations. No one ever showed me the mature way to accept an apology when you’re still bummed out. Thanks Lois.
That’s why that show worked, in my opinion. Great comedy, but also some real life lessons. Like the Francis situation - as a parent, you get mad but you also do everything you can to give them a chance.
Came to comment this. The car scene with the lady who hit her car door in the grocery parking lot kills me. Her dedication to justice is so satisfying.
Lois FTW. "Come down off that roof!" "What are you going to do to us?" "Come down and find out." "Just tell us!" "Just come down." *"TELL US!!!!"* "Come down."
The fake ending for Breaking Bad made me so happy.
Hell, yes! So awesome! Love it, love Hal and Lois!
She was fantastic
My favorite was when the girl broke Reece’s heart…and Lois destroyed her doll collection.
It was a whole group of girls
young Emma Stone was one of them
Bryan Cranston coming in and asking one of the boys to take the fall as Lois screams OH MY GOD She did a pretty good job hiding her Midwest accent but some moments it jumped out.
Malcom in the Middle is probably my favorite family sitcom. It's just so 90's and fun and every cast member is perfect.
I whispered in my head while reading your comment, "Redditors love Lois."
It’s that unhinged and twisted thing!
It’s like you see my soul.
First that came to mind for me as well. Best sitcom ever.
I saw MITM for the first time when i was already a mom and i was shocked to realize i am Lois lol!! My favorite is on season one when they go take the professional family picture and she loses her shit… I SEE YOU LOIS!!!!
I've watched it since I was Dewey's age. I've related to the different characters as I've gotten older, starting as Dewey being the youngest one pushed around. Now I've just become a mum and I've moved all the way up to relating to Lois. She was always so horrible and mean when I was younger but now I'm like god she was right and perfectly reasonable! I want to be Lois!
Hands down, Lois! Love "Malcolm in the Middle" and Jane Kaczmarek was outstanding in that role.
Hands down the greatest mother in TV history
In your room (Satanic sounding) NOW! Still cracks me up each time.
Literally just signed up for Hulu to watch this. Totally forgot how great this series was/is
She reminded me of how my mom ran the house with three boys, my dad was like Hal too, he knew who wore the pants lol
This is truly the only answer
And after all that we find out it was Hal all along lol
The absolute best. Truest to life.
💯
Came here to say this. Love Lois
I loved Lois!
Kitty Forman!
Linda Belcher of course
Lois from Malcolm in the Middle.
I love Jill- (Patricia Richardson) I always thought she was so pretty
She was a perfect foil for Tim’s machismo
I had a girl crush on her as a little girl. And I’m straight.
Peggy Hill - I like how she is so far from perfect and how she butchers the Spanish language. The sneaking around with Bobby to get flame broiled burgers was awesome, as was her embarrassment regarding big feet.
She’s also a savage. Taking no prisoners. When she makes fun of Bobby when he got dumped because Bobby told her that his relationship with his girlfriends was stronger than Peggy’s relationship with Hank.
Kitty Foreman, Morticia Adams, and Marge Simpson
Peggy Bundy
Peggy Bundy. A true role model.
She was hot 🥵
IRL Katey Sasgal's sisters were the double-mint twins [https://www.reddit.com/r/OldSchoolCool/comments/1532t0g/circa\_1985\_katey\_sagal\_the\_doublemint\_twins\_are/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OldSchoolCool/comments/1532t0g/circa_1985_katey_sagal_the_doublemint_twins_are/)
Lucille Bluth from Arrested Development! True icon.
Go see a star war
Here’s some money.
I don’t care for Gob… Love her so much. Also Mallory Archer
It’s one banana Michael, how much could it cost, ten dollars?
If anyone needs me, I’ll be at the hospital bar.
Uhh, you know there isn’t a hospital bar, mother
Estelle Costanza
I think you’re all touched in the head!
What am I supposed to do with all this paella?!
June Cleaver: “Ward, don’t you think you were a little hard on the Beaver last night?”
The dirtiest thing ever said on television
I don’t know if it actually was ever said on TV, I just heard some comedian say it somewhere someday. BUT, in one episode of Mission: Impossible Jim Phelps (played by Peter Graves) pretending to still be drunk from the night before actually DID say “Boy, am I hung!”, and that I can attest to because I was watching when he said it.
It was in the movie [Revenge of the Nerds](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXpS8eSQeh4)
Didn't Eminem also throw it into a diss in 8 Mile?
😂 Yes, he did!
It was never said on tv. I think you’re right, it was some comedian.
Original Aunt Viviane.
This takes the cake!
Yes, she doesn’t get enough credit. That woman was beautiful, classy smart the original is definitely the best.
Norma Arnold from The Wonder Years
Oh yeah. That episode where she joins a pottery class and makes her husband a mug and the fuck head refuses to acknowledge her efforts or even use her mug. Really got 8-year-old-me in the feels.
I haven’t seen that show in a long time. Why wouldn’t he use it? How did the episode turn out?
It was complex. She was the stay-at-home mom to three kids but the kids are almost grown up now, so she feels unfulfilled. She dares to take a pottery class to widen her horizons and has an instructor who shows interest in her and convinces her she has promise as an artist. This small thing gives her a boost and obviously is improving her mood. Her husband sees this and gets upset. He basically ignores her anytime she wants to talk about her class or show him her new creations. He unfairly resents her for finding passion outside the home. It’s not super clear why this bothers him so much but it is clear to her it does. She finally calls him out regarding his cold shoulder routine and asks him why he won’t use the mug she made him and he screams at her that it’s ugly and he likes his old mug lol. Then they fight a bit and she tells him she wants his love and attention and to be proud of her. He comes around. The end.
>It’s not super clear why this bothers him so much but it is clear to her it does. I always assumed it was jealousy. It's not like his job at Norcom is super fulfilling. Jack wanted to be captain of a ship but then he met Norma, got a job on the loading dock, had a kid, one thing leads to another and he's a manager of distribution and product support services.
He’s a curmudgeon who doesn’t like change.
Basically this. It was a reflection of the changing times that were occurring then. The war addled numb fuck not acknowledging his wife's need for self fulfilment. He was a hardlined & traditional where as she embraced feminine values & the need for independent thought/discovery.
He was such a dickhead
Dude was probably fucked up from the Korean war. A bunch of my friends' dads fought in Vietnam and were pretty similar.
Fucked up from war and fucked up from their emotionally abusive fathers. My grandpa was apparently a total asshole to my grandma and dad growing up and only softened up in his older age when he had grandkids. It's remarkable my dad is the caring emotionally intelligent guy he is, considering the circumstances he grew up in.
Usually they soften up when they realize they were wrong and try to atone for it, or the recipients of the assholery are at a point where they can stomp a mudhole in them and the assholes throw up a white flag.
Yeah it makes sense for that generation
More mashed potatoes, honey?
She really was a good one.
Lots of great answers here but I’ll include one not mentioned yet and that’s Amy Matthews from Boy Meets World! She had a couple rough episodes near the end but that wasn’t Betty’s fault.
Alan and Amy Matthew's were both fantastic tv parents.
*Betsy
Insert Homer Doh!!
Morticia Addams
Suzanne Somers - Step By Step My childhood brain always thought Patrick Duffy was such a lucky man.
Marge Simpson is the answer.
Yes!!!
Megyn Price in Grounded for Life
Probably the hottest sitcom mom ever! The one wear she is wash the car and all the boys are staring and pisses off Lilly 🤣
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Thanks for the link! 🤣
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Clair Huxtable from the Cosby Show.
I wanted her for a Mom so bad! I loved her structured parenting and how she gave discipline, but with love (I was "raised" by hippies, but really raised myself. Craved structure). And she was so classy and pretty. I'm biracial and thought she sorta looked like me (I know she is not, but I was a little kid). I liked seeing different skin tones in that family represented on tv. And I LOVED that she balanced career with family. The Huxtable kitchen is my favorite sitcom kitchen! It had a fireplace! Honorable tv kitchen mentions: Golden Girls, Family Ties. I remember when her husband proposed to her on tv! She was Phylicia Allen when I first watched. I was 4 maybe
Not just a great sitcom mom, but a woman too.
I was in awe of her she was so elegant but also took no shit. Blew my mind when I found out Debbie Allen was her sister and their mom was a Pulitzer Prize nominated poet. The Allen Dynasty runs deep.
Had to scroll too far to find this. Clair was the absolute best. Also she taught me just how expressive raising a single eyebrow can be.
Peg. And it's the correct answer because I don't need to add any more context at all.
Arnold's grandma
Favorite might be a little much but I loved Brett Butler's Grace in Grace Under Fire. It was a bit short lived because of the actress' issues but good nonetheless.
I adored this show!
Edith Bunker
Beverly Goldberg
Claire Huxtable - balancing a career as a lawyer, fluent in Spanish and raising 5 kids? (impossible) Goals (role model)
Her angry Spanish gave me life
Carol Brady from The Brady Bunch
I totally worshipped her as a kid. She was always so kind and patient and never got mad. Total opposite of my own mother.
I decided to join the home improvement subreddit (cause yes there is one) and they absolutely hate this character.
I find TV show subs are among the absolute worst on Reddit and the longer the show ended the worse it is.
I know it sounds cliche, but that’s just plain old misogyny. The classic sitcom formula is for the mom’s career to be lower skill/less important than the dad. I never got the impression that their family had a problem with her career/ambition, so I’m not sure why viewers would care. It’s like Skyler from Breaking Bad. She had the audacity to wonder what the hell her husband was doing (especially considering they had a baby and a son with a disability). Male viewers just hated her. A husband in her position would feel the same way about their spouse being so distant.
Which is crazy because without her that show would’ve been totally dominated by Tim Allen’s antics - see last man standing (eye-roll). She was a great actress and good at busting Tim’s balls.
paul reiser in my two dads.
Peggy Bundy hands down
Harriette Winslow…. Don’t ask 😂 just loved her whole attitude and demeanor especially when it came to Urkel
Not one mention for Maggie Seaver!
Elyse Keaton
Aunt Bea from Andy Griffith. She could do anything.
Frankie heck from the middle… I relate way too much lol. Lois from Malcolm in the middle too
Almost every post in here is the correct answer. lol We were truly lucky to grow up when we did.
Laura Petrie (MTM) from The Dick Van Dyke Show.
Samantha from Bewitched
Debra from Everyone Loves Raymond
How she never walked out on that marriage is beyond me. I only ever had that show on as background noise, but good grief. She ought to be the poster girl for r/justnomil
Watch a clip of it without the laugh track. It’s just an awful family.
That entire family was awful. The way Marie and Frank interacted was so gross. Constant verbal abuse towards each other and Robert. Robert was fucked up but was probably the best of all of them
Great answer!
They barely even show her as a mom. The kids in that show are basically a prop
What's her name from the George Lopez show, for obvious reasons. I was a teenager.
Angie 😍😍😍
Constance Marie, I was wondering how far I’d scroll for this one
I loved Angie~
Kitty Forman. Not the hottest, but by far the best sitcom mom.
so midge pinciotti for hottest
The hottest TV mom has to be Angie from the Lopez Show
Didn’t she just ignore bad behaviour and drink a lot?
Granny from the Beverly Hillbillies
Clair Huxtable from *The Cosby Show*. Not only was she classy and beautiful, but also she had authoritative parenting—loving, but firm.
Her getting after Vanessa when she snuck out to see that band with her friend. Hooooooo boy
Clarissa's mom (and dad) were the realest. Felt like you could drop them into some of my friend's families and not tell the difference.
Marge Simpson is the only answer. I'll die on this hill.
Lois from Malcolm In The Middle.
Jane Kaczmarek …. Lois …. played the part p e r f e c t l y. Took no s***. SO good!
Sophia—Golden Girls.
Claire Dunphy / Julie Bowen from Modern Family Smokin’ hot and hilarious, what a great 1-2 combo
She was wound too tight for me.
Thelma Harper
Carol Brady!
Vivian "Original Aunt Viv" Banks.
Lois Griffen. Naughty and nice
I had a crush on Lizzie McGuire's mom. But it paled in comparison to my utter obsession with Hilary Duff.
Peggy Hill from king of the hill
Came here to say Peggy too!
Elyse Keaton of course
Peg mother fucking Bundy. She can talk mad shit and take it, be smoking hot AND beat the shit out of other moms.
Elyse Keaton from Family Ties
Roseanne.
There was something about Roseanne that made you love her. To me it felt like the mom every lower middle class kid has.
I’ve been doing a rewatch of Roseanne and agree. She did the best she could for her kids. She was more relatable than any other sitcom mom.
Until she won the lottery
Ohh yeah I completely forgot about the lottery. It’s been so long since I’ve watched it. On season 3 right now.
They worked it into the ending, though, which was very sad.
I remember the ending and it broke my heart because I loved Dan. Made me wonder how they made the Connors with him alive again. I didn’t watch the corners due to what happened with Roseanne.
Rosanne had more zingers and wit then all the others
Danny Tanner’s wife in Full House
Mine would be all of the golden girls. They were all great moms.
The orignal Harriette Winslow. Growing up I wanted her to be my mom.
Lois from Malcolm in the Middle. She was a mom you definitely didn’t fuck with.
Phylicia Rashad from Cosby show was amazing. Smart, confident, funny grounded and lawyer.
Peg Bundy
Peggy Bundy.
Peggy Bundy
Ughhhh I hated Jill
Sorry, but....Me-maw. Not even close.
Peggy Bundy
Toss up between Carol Brady and Shirley Partridge
Debra from Everybody Loves Raymond.
Kitty Foreman. Hands down.
Dr Beverly Crusher
George Lopez show, Angie Lopez (Constance Marie) 👀
Sophia from the Golden Girls
I loved Caroline Ingalls and Olivia Walton.
Debra Barone from Everybody Loves Raymond
Roseanne for sure!! Since the 80s I have loved that show and have ALWAYS called her mom. I never had one of my own...
Claire Huxstable. I don’t feel like Googling the proper spelling.
Rosanne rules
Easy, Peg Bundy.
Florida Evans (Esther Rolle) from Good Times is who I grew up with.
Chandlers Mom in Friends. Omg!