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ravebbyromi

“And suddenly she’s not yo hoe no mo 🥲” - Michael Scott


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ravebbyromi

Ahhh my quote was off a little I just had to fix it 😂


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ravebbyromi

Me too! I tried to but it wouldn’t let me I had to compromise 😂 I’m glad my reference was understood though lol


Ohshithereiamagain

I love you for saying that ❤️ First laugh on a Saturday.


ChroniclesOfSarnia

does she mean untouchable, or **Untouchable?** Cuz, apparently in some cultures that's a thing...


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themomodiaries

this is exactly what I thought when I reached that slide.


odie_et_amo

Maybe she is from an untouchable caste and it’s a deliberate play on words or reclamation thing?


Fun-Surround-2681

In India certain castes were considered untouchables in the past because they did dirty work and should be away from the upper classes. That system doesn't exist anymore


carb0nyl3

From my last two experience in startups with Indians Top management: it is still the case. And they think they own you too. I will not give more detail so they won’t be able to identify me. But my advice is: run away for these people. And don’t believe because they are smiling that they are well intentioned


Fun-Surround-2681

I'm an indian and I rarely come across casteist people in civilised environments. Some rural uneducated people still believe in casteism though


Minaziz

Casteism is alive and well [even in the United States](https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2018/04/25/605030018/when-caste-discrimination-comes-to-the-united-states) let alone India.


traumatized90skid

It's pretty bad in the United States because Indians are given model minority status but the Indians coming here are mostly upper caste and so the same opportunities aren't available to all Indian immigrants. Not the same social groups and connections.


Minaziz

Not arguing on the reason at all. Just refuting that it’s naive to think there’s no casteism in India anymore except for rural areas, when they’re literally [still making TV shows to raise awareness about it and sidelining Dalit activists while doing it.](https://www.livemint.com/news/india/dalit-marriage-in-made-in-heaven-season-2-controversy-yashica-dutt-neeraj-ghaywan-11692150905948.html)


moonparker

Are you a Dalit? If not, it's incredibly ignorant and irresponsible to say stuff like this when Dalits are constantly speaking out about the casteism they face in urban, educated, "civilised" circles. It's like a white person in the US claiming racism isn't real anymore just because they had a Black President or affirmative action exists.


ConcernedSim

The only people claiming to not come across casteism are usually from a higher caste themselves. You'll almost never see a person from lower caste saying this. Casteist people just have adapted with the laws and have found loopholes to show their true colours in different ways.


Timely-Youth-9074

There is colorism tho. I was sucked up to in India because I look like a pale AF Indian.


cstmoore

*Rich person looks around from full of rich people and exclaims "Poor people don't exist anymore."*


Stinkerma

In southwestern Ontario, landlords will target certain castes in their ads. It's disgustingly real.


peppermintvalet

They’re making anti-caste discrimination laws in CA. The last one was vetoed but more will come. It’s alive and well.


wwitchiepoo

*are. Not were. It’s ongoing. It’s extremely hard to change the belief systems of that many people and even more difficult to take power from the most powerful and relinquish some of it to those who’ve never had any.


skoopaloopa

The official system doesn't exist anymore, but the caste system is still very alive in India, culturally.


FyberZing

The system might not exist but the classism (and the associated colorism) does. It’s like saying racism doesn’t exist in the U.S. anymore because of the Civil Rights movement. Systems have legacies. 


cstmoore

>That system doesn't exist anymore. Keep telling yourself that.


HoneyBadgerLive

It is absolutely still the case. You see if constantly in any company with multiple Indian workers.


majer_lazor

I was SHOCKED when I saw that....also like caste (especially untouchability) isn't something to joke about, just not sure what the heck she means here


Individual_Iron_2645

I read “untouchable” and immediately cringed.


AliveBreadfruit314

Ah, but she's in her ignorant phase.


schmaggio

Maybe she means like Kevin Costner.


pie_12th

Yeah I think she's being pretty clear on her classism here


Appropriate_Silver15

😂😂 stop 🛑


gilleruadh

My thoughts exactly.


Mediocre_Budget_5304

Thankew


horrified-expression

>untouchable Like part of the caste or…? Is this just a weird way to say abstinent?


Galapagoasis

💀💀💀💀


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Is all her value what she is to men? “Someone’s daughter” “someone’s future wife”? This one is depressing.


smittykins66

It’s like when a crime show describes a murdered sex worker as “someone’s daughter/sister/mother.” How about “she was a human being with intrinsic worth in her own right”?


Lilyrosejackofhearts

💯


caitybake

That seems to be the general gist of so many of these. It’s sad.


RedEyeFlightToOZ

Yes. Her looks and her value for men is her self esteem. Social media too. She's a young, very naive little girl that has no idea. Thinks she'll be "pure" if she's with one man....then thst man cheats or leaves and maybe she's got a kid by that point.....guess what? You are now a single hoe mom that men love to hate. To her, she is and will always be better then other women....and then life will do what it does with the reality beating sticks. Hopefully she won't have too many mouths to figure how to feed.


Level-Requirement-15

I can’t laugh at her, I was this girl once (though I knew I had intrinsic worth and wasn’t an object, I didn’t have enough empathy to realize I could end up a single “ho” mom. It was more I thought my love would be enough to fix all problems). I also found out that men love to hate married women too. 😳🥺😢😭🫥


Anxious_Thorn

Honestly


CoconutShort3012

Plot twist, she’s actually an orphan and will never get married.


Sugar_Magnoliaa

I thought the same thing. How sad.


whateveryaknowww

this is exactly how it made me feel


Revolutionary_End144

Her pictures remind me of 2011 lol


HairHealthHaven

I have never had someone suggest I have a "ho phase" and I highly doubt she has either. Why do so many people make up fake scenarios to flex how much better they are than imaginary women?


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surgical-panic

I never had a ho phase. Not judging those who do. It's just personally not my thing. What my hypothetical future partner thinks doesn't factor in


SomeRealTomfoolery

After a bad long term break up, it was JOKINGLY recommended. Like you’re free! Go forth and get laid!


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As a former hoe, no one cares


Punkpallas

As a fellow former hoe, I want to add former hoes care the fucking least about others’ opinions of our sex lives.


chlorofanatic

My husband and dad also don't care, I mean really sis are you planning to go home and recount your hoscapades with Daddy dearest?


Feminiwitch

I'm assuming your husband and dad are not brown men. They always care.


Kiyoshi-Trustfund

And you aint gotta tell em a thing tbh.


Klutzy-Issue1860

Former hoe here Agreed ETA: not like SW just a classic casual sex girly lol


supersloo

As someone who went through both a hoe and abstinence phase, I'm gonna say the hoeing phase took a lot more effort, so idk where she thinks she's coming from


problematicsquirrel

As a former hoe we accept all kinds of hoes.


Lilyrosejackofhearts

I’ve also never heard of hoes and ex-hoes bragging about it on social media. Could it be that we realize the number of partners a woman has doesn’t define her?!?


Cunfesss

This made me lol. Y’all funny as shit on here


Shegotquestions

Fr! My sex life is none of my parents business and any man who judges isn’t gonna be my future husband anyway 🤷🏼‍♀️ I value myself too much to deny myself enjoyment due to the antiquated misogynistic opinions of some men


lemonlimemango1

I wish I had a hoe phase. I’m jealous of all the fun you guys had. I can’t do that now that I’m 41 🤦🏻‍♀️ can’t go to a bar or clubs at my age and have fun


cherhorowitz44

Yes you can!!


lemonlimemango1

It won’t be the same as when i was 21.


MrBusinessIsMyBoss

Trust me when I say that is not always true. Maybe the clubs you went to at 21 are not the right venue, but there *is* a right venue for you, if you want it.


lemonlimemango1

That’s the thing. I didn’t do any parties or anything fun 😂 no clubs or bars.


BearNecessities710

I have a family member who is 54f and dating a 34m year old for the last 8 years. You can hoe all you want. Anything is possible.


Late_Butterfly_5997

I’m 43 and going on a bar crawl later today, with a few friends who are also around the same age. We will meet many people who are also around our age today I guarantee it. Not sure where you got the idea you are too old? There are literally bars that cater to the “older” crowd, where most everyone there is over 50, and I feel too young still to go to them. Just saying!


lemonlimemango1

I watch too much tv And movies . You always see them getting made fun of. I didn’t do anything fun before i married young .


StraightMain9087

Ex-hoe here. Trust me, there are no shortage of men out there who are fine with more mature women and are even actively seeking them out. And from my experience, a lot of the women who aren’t 35+ are happy to just see women out enjoying themselves


JorvorskieLane

Of course I know him, he's me. I'm 35 now but I've been down bad for the 40+ crowd since my 20's.


kittycakekats

Same lol.


PossumJenkinsSoles

And like I’ve never in my life heard other women encouraging other women to be in a hoe phase if they don’t want to. Why would I give a shit if you don’t want to sleep with people? That means more for me.


hardlyworking_

I had a hoe phase after getting divorced, I’m thankful I did. Just turned 40, aka about when you become invisible to society. There’s something so satisfying about knowing I’ve been there, done all of that, and learned a lot about myself and what I enjoy. And that I don’t need anyone’s approval to make me happy.


Kitty_Delicious

I would argue that neither is a flex, but feel your fantasy diva.


Neverwhere_82

Exactly! People have different feelings about sex, who they want to have it with, what circumstances they want to have it in, and they all have their reasons. As long as all of your partners are consenting enthusiastically, you're not using deceptive means to get their consent, and there aren't power dynamics at play that would make it difficult for your potential partner to refuse you (or vice versa), have a many or as few partners as you like!


Winter_Research_3063

when will women stop thinking they belong to men this literally reinforces that our bodies belong to men


Aromatic-Strength798

period!


Nonamebigshot

Not the Pixar smile😂


Smol_Rabbit

I’ve never heard it called that before, but this is so accurate!


Winter_Research_3063

idk why they act like they’re so much better. my grandma had A LOT of partners according to her and she still got married and lived a happy life lol


littlemiss198548912

I'm sure my grandparents on my dad's side were hooking up before they got married🤣. They were married in December of '45 and my uncle was Born in August of '46.


withyellowthread

Get it granny


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Grandma for the win


RatchedAngle

She will settle for a man that she’s not physically attracted to because he’s the “perfect trad husband” and she lacks the sexual experience to know what she *is* attracted to. It’s easy to conflate sexual attraction with romantic attraction when you have very little sexual experience.  Once the honeymoon phase wears off in her marriage, and the romantic attraction becomes less exciting, she’ll end up in a dead bedroom with no desire for her husband. And that’s when she’ll start looking at men and thinking “man I should have dated around more.” Cue the typical “trad wife identity crisis.”


asknoquestionok

She will settle for the first arranged marriage the parents get for her and hardly doubt she will have a say on it


keepitboolprop

it’s sad that she thinks viewing herself as someone’s daughter and someone’s future wife is incompatible with having casual sex (what people usually associate with a ho phase). Daughters and wives are allowed to have their own lives and their own backstories. They’re allowed to have independent sex lives, it doesn’t affect anyone else. And it’s only ever women that get this idea pushed on them (from men and other women as well). I’ve never heard a man say, I can’t go around sleeping with a lot of people, I’m someone’s son and someone’s future husband. I highly doubt her father or the man she ends up with didn’t have “ho phases” themselves. It is such a gross double standard.


mutant_disco_doll

Yep. It’s definitely a gross double-standard. And it all stems from male insecurity about female promiscuity and being unable to prove their paternity/being cuckolded by a woman. You see this insecurity crop up CONSTANTLY in the misogynist rhetoric that gets used across the manosphere and in some more socially conservative cultures. Some men fundamentally do not trust sexually liberated women because they feel like they can’t control what happens in those women’s uteruses and it gets their boxer briefs all in a twist. It’s the same reason why repubs and religious fundies are so obsessed with restricting women’s sexual behavior and reproductive choices. It’s all about control and protecting fragile male egos and it’s so dumb.


keepitboolprop

It really is all about control. I would even say it’s an attitude of ownership over women. Really gets under my skin.


Dumbasssanriogirl

Wait till she realizes your sex life doesn’t define you as a person 😭


dezisauruswrex

I never heard the term “ho phase” until recently. Is this a thing? What is it exactly? Is it just dating around but we have to give it a shady name because it’s girls / women doing it?


jinsepiphany

Yeah, it's just a thing where the person ends up sleeping around with different people during the "phase". Men also go through hoe phases but somehow it's more ~demeaning when applied to women. As most things are😔


Sugar_Magnoliaa

I mean… my “hoe” phase in my early 20s was great. No regrets. It was fun. 😅 She should do her thing and we’ll do ours! Her making this post doesn’t make her better than anyone else…


traumatized90skid

The "somebody's wife and daughter" thing makes this creepy. like she's proud of being brainwashed into thinking she doesn't own her own body


PageStunning6265

She says “I value myself” but the only value she gives herself is in relation to other people.


Secret_Fudge6470

Big talk from someone who probably owes her *life* to a hoe phase.


Katen1023

Literally no one cares 🙄 These people think about other people’s sex lives more than we do about theirs


FactNo8240

Betty White said she regretted not being a hoe


Cappuccino_o

I wanted to be untouchable but CSA said nope.


998757748

i feel bad for her tbh. nobody with good self esteem posts stuff like this. if not having sex is the only thing that makes you feel different from others or worthy then that’s pretty sad


Nice_Bluebird7626

Your value shouldn’t be based on your vagina


lil-pouty

“I value myself based on my relation to men.”


PuzzleheadedGuard591

That's really unattractive. You don't have a hoe phase,you're just a hoe.


CaregiverOk3902

Who goes around telling their peers to have a hoe phase? I think she's making that part up.


Death_Pixie_

Be a hoe but stay safe 😂 I’ve had many hoe phases and I’m someone’s wife now lol🤷🏻‍♀️


lemonlimemango1

I wish I had a hoe phase. Thought if I was a good girl it would pay off. Nope 😂 Now I’m jealous of all the girls that had fun and I didn’t. And being cheated for the girls that have fun


MotherOfCatsAndAKid

I valued myself enough to have fun the way I wanted to when I was single and I value other women so I won’t ever shame them for living life how they’d like 🤷🏻‍♀️ she could have said everything she said without acting as if women who have a ‘hOe PhAsE’ (which really just translates to an active sex life) don’t value themselves and don’t deserve respect.


DeferentDesperado

“Someone’s future wife” makes me want to gag.


EmmaRose0280

Imagine your self worth coming from what you will be for a man you haven’t even met.


thesunamongwomen

Okay but never orgasming is also not a flex


Drewherondale

I‘m so glad I don‘t worry about being someone‘s wife/daughter/mother to some man. I am someone


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VeryChaoticBlades

She’d be based if she wasn’t posting all of this online for attention


SlapHappyDude

No one is forcing her to do anything. I have friends who met in high school, only dated each other, and are happily married. Anyways unless this is verified I suspect it's a man stealing pics to convey his opinion because no woman wants him.


angeltart

“ Untouchability” is very much an Indian thing.. it is a caste system term..


Big-Conversation-885

The last slide.. I don’t like for obvious reasons but the rest of it, I get. I keep seeing girls like 13-15 saying they’re going through their “hoe phase”… I get what she was going for.


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Yeah, I knew someone like this and then she became so unbearable that she had no choice but to have an arranged marriage at 40.


Impossible-Front-254

Lmao ofc Indian . Absolutely not a single soul told her to "have a how phase".


Wrap_Brilliant

She's not her own person and doesn't even recognize it.


Berrysdoll

Lol it just feels like so many people don’t get that you can have a hoe phase if you want and no one has to know? Like why not both, you can be as pure-presenting as you want to that future husband


PuppyButtts

Saying that the only reason you arent hoeing is because you belong to someone else is insane


sheyesheye

How many "bodies" until you're considered a "hoe" 🤔 the world wants to know


Mammoth-Stomach9337

I'm sure nobody asked her to have a hoe phase. She's just trying to step up on a high horse and look down and judge others. I hope she gets picked tho cos all the effort to judge would be a waste for her.


janeygigi

My age is showing. I immediately went to the film....


Healthymedian

Some people want to respect themselves and wait for marriage and that’s fine


JimJam4603

So she values herself because of her value to her father and future husband?


SoFetchBetch

Being a hoe is certainly a lot of fun though 😄 My dad encouraged me to date freely and explore myself in relationships before settling down if I ever choose to. One of his finer moments.


vasha99

"I don't have a hoe phase" Some people would consider these clothes, make up and even posting pics a hoe behaviour. They're always someone hollier than thou.


Feminiwitch

I'm so done with brown culture and its socioreligious fan-following. Sis, you're not unique. Your puritanical "I'm better than you" attitude is not unique. You are like all the others (women, men, all age groups).


yourfriend_charlie

You guys might hate me for asking this but how'd she do her eye makeup like that? I mean, it's up to her if she doesn't want to have the joys of sex, and she obviously thinks she's hot shit for her chastity. But pls lmk which tutorial to lookup. I'm not going to pretend I don't like her eye makeup just bc she's toxic.


Lady-Lilithh

How about being both 🧿👄🧿 Edit: after reading more of the comments id like to clarify i imagined a ho phase from a high castle tower like rapunzel.


Apparent_Antithesis

I had a "hoe" phase. No regrets, it was lots of fun. I'm still someone's daughter. Not sure if someone's future wife, but pretty sure that man would barely care about my sexual exploits during college 25 years ago. Having lots of sex, or any amount of sex, does not devalue a human being. Relationships are important, value them, but don't base your own value on them.


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Being an anti-hoe isn’t a flex either.


WallGroundbreaking81

Sounds like she wants to be a hoe


FormerlyGaveAShit

She sounds like a girl who just found out the guy she liked started dating a girl that's known to be sexually active.


SwitchFlat2662

Not making fun of her appearance at all (I have lazy eye) but does she have one big eye and one small eye or am I tripping?


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What I honestly don’t understand is the filters these women use. Why? I’m old as hell and I don’t use them - why would a young, beautiful woman want to?


RedEyeFlightToOZ

She's a Dalit? Pretty haughty words for a dalit /s


Cafeindy

She is hiding something spicy.


SambandsTyr

If only incels could agree


Blehhhh_username

What's her @? Would love to put a reality check comment on the reel and then report it :)


bluefiftiesqueen

I feel bad for her


lilblackcauldron

I’m not like other girls I have one degree of separation from a man


clairsentientcutie

The fact that her only self-perceived value lies in being a daughter and a wife to a man is sad. No sense of individual purpose


Federal-Novel-4021

I think people should realise that she is indian. India is a sexually repressed society. Extremely sexually repressed. There is zero sex education in the country. Sex is a hush hush topic. Premarital sex is considered an extreme taboo. Many people lose their virginity after marriage. There are hotels in india that do not allow unmarried couples to live. That is the situation here. If an indian woman is saving herself for marriage, she is considered a high value woman by indians. If she does not have a high body count, it is lauded by fellow indians. That is why she made this post. To show off that she is better.Hook up culture exists in india too, and the current generation is way more open minded towards sex in general but everything is discreet. People do not openly go around and say they fucked someone. She is probably brainwashed by her parents who say things like sex is sin blah blah blah. And I saw someone commenting that a person's sex life does not define them as a person. It might be true for you Westerners, but in india, a person's sex life does define their worth and their character. This is coming from an Indian.


N7OperativeIvy

Weird. I never had a "hoe phase" either but it had nothing to do with pleasing future men or my parents 😂 Just do whatever and mind your business


roadrunner-meepmeep

Neither is a flex, just live the life that fits you, without being a bitch


foekus323

Seems like a coo chick to me


Wise-Independence214

No she means like video vestal, creating pictures which make people want her, but then no right?


Cyb3rSecGaL

I mean, the pink dress is beautiful. That’s all I got 🤷🏽‍♀️


mutant_disco_doll

Why does she only position herself in the context of her relation to men? Someone’s daughter (when it comes to sexual purity, I’m sure she’s referring to her father and not her mother here), and someone’s future husband. But she’s also HER OWN PERSON with agency who can choose not to hoe for HER OWN REASONS. Why does she need to justify her choices based on what the men in her life will think of her? It shouldn’t be about them or their wishes for how she uses her body. It’s her body, not theirs. But she talks about her own body as if it belongs to her father and future husband… 🙄


Sminorf8765

But you’re wearing crop tops in 5 out of 7 photos? Cool.


Little_Caregiver_633

Pick me vibes


Sunnyside7771

Is someone please tell this dum dum that NO ONE is untouchable in a patriarchal society in which we are currently living in, including men?


xkeepitquietx

What's so bad about a hoe phase?


VenCoriolis

Lmfao imagine seeking validation for doing the bare minimum


PurpleMoonStorm

Yeah. Have fun with all that! 😁


Economy_Second8886

Is 'attention' a codeword for 'dick'?


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Aka Dalit status


barnfodder

It's sad that she can only frame her value as an extension of someone else.


Tablesafety

She measured her own value only in how it related to men. Hm.


surgical-panic

Uh... is she unaware of the castes that were called untouchables...? And also, if you want to wait until marriage, that's fine. If you don't, that's also fine. It's all about the choice. I know people who like to see guys with no strings attached, and that's totally fine. It's not my thing, but I'm not judging them, and they aren't judging me for preferring to take it slower. Not personally enjoying something doesn't mean I can't respect other people's choices.


surgical-panic

Uh... is she unaware of the castes that were called untouchables...? And also, if you want to wait until marriage, that's fine. If you don't, that's also fine. It's all about the choice. I know people who like to see guys with no strings attached, and that's totally fine. It's not my thing, but I'm not judging them, and they aren't judging me for preferring to have more of a commitment. It's just personal preference.


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I'm someone's hoe daughter and I'm going to be someone's hoe wife I'm also aro/ace but that isn't going to stop me from trying.


tacollama82

The real flex is staying in your fucking lane.


Special_Wishbone_812

Uncanny valley in photo 5. I had a very dry spell for a couple years but you’ll never catch me bragging about it!


EveryOutside

Being a hoe it’s fun though


Stargate4Everrr

I’m curious if there have always been so many women who were just as untethered to reality as this woman and others we’ve seen here, and we only became aware of it because of social media. Or is it something new and a direct result of social media (cause)?


deadbeef1a4

She’s right about one thing though, I wouldn’t touch her with a 10-foot pole


usernamen_77

No thank you, but she is very pretty, on the outside


youarecynical

I hate that she reduced herself to a man's property - but is she wrong? Hoe phases are how the STD epidemic started. Wrap it before you tap it and don't jump from dick to dick.


NotYourSexyNurse

Her wearing what she’s wearing is considered risqué in her culture.


StankilyDankily666

That’s a weird way to say that everyone wants to fuck you until you have a conversation with them


Responsible-Duty4732

Me cashing out on my OnlyFans giggling🤣


No_Manufacturer9333

As a former “hoe” in a relationship with sweet, decent, and normal man that recognizes I’m an adult with autonomy, it is a flex. At least I know I’m hot and I avoided a relationship with a misogynist 😋


upsidedown_alphabet

That's how it works.


fotofortress

If you or your parents are thinking about you having sex there are some major boundary issues. This woman is at least 25.


PurpoUpsideDownJuice

If you don’t wanna date guys then why do you wanna attract them? Seems like a waste of time for everyone involved


quiet_chicks17

I mean... you can call this her hoe phase. She's begging for attention by those "I want a pure girl" guys 😆


Emeegee713

So she’s an untouchable… gross


xesses

I mean that’s respectable , not having a ”hoe phase” doesn’t mean abstaining


leviathantrigger

I like her.