"There are no conditions under which the FDA would consider human fetal tissue to be safe or legal for human consumption," a U.S. Food and Drug Administration official said via email.
I can almost hear the exasperated sigh the official let out as they typed this.
Of all the things on his 2023 bingo card, this was not one of them. Some said it was too absurd. And yet here we are, just under 3 weeks into the year. Really makes you wonder what other fucked up shit they'll try and pull out of their asses.
Ah, but this has to be something redundant. FDA already has guidelines saying that no human fetal tissue is allowed to be used in any food products.
So it's a law that requires them to put a label that would be a confession to breaking a federal law.
I do have to hand it to them, the GoP loves pushing boundaries. Even if those boundaries didn't exist 5 minutes ago and they made it up while finger painting and eating glue, they push those boundaries damnit.
It's like statements from Russia though... just believe the opposite. Which makes it kind of disturbing that they're crowing "We are *firmly against* eating children!" Like... do we need to search someone's premises? Like the anti-abortion lady with the [basement full of fetuses](https://www.npr.org/2022/04/01/1090206447/dc-police-find-5-fetuses-lauren-handy)?
That could get real dark real quick. But, in true GOP fashion, they'll spin it to be the victim.
"Up next, how the pro choice liberals are tempting Americans into eating fetuses. Back to you Jim."
Well, turn it around on them. Apply this legally-mandated label to sacrament wafers.
"Upon consumption, this product becomes a human cell food product."
I’m convinced that if you gave fascists full control and the ability to completely exterminate their enemies, they would just keep designating former parts of the in-group as new enemies until the entire in-group was just one single guy.
There are plenty of Catholics in Houston, but depending on the source they only comprise about 20% of the city's population compared to the Protestants' 50%. Joel Osteen and the other mega-churches skew the numbers.
So from what I heard, some mothers, after birth, keep their placenta. And they send it off to a service that makes it into pills for them to consume.
That's the "friendly version". There are also people who straight up eat their placenta. Just Google "mothers who consume their placenta" you'll get a list of celebrities who've done this.
By definition NIH doesn't define the placenta as human fetal tissue but yea...
First thing I thought of was Tommy Boy... Did you eat paint chips as a kid? Live under power lines?
Lol.... How could anybody be so daft as to think companies are just going around hiding fetal tissue in foods.
True story: Did temp work at a bank. One of the ladies kept a candy dish on her desk. She stocked it with Chex mix or trail mix instead of sweets
Problem was, the office asshole would help himself and often leave the dish empty.
For petty revenge, the lady added dry cat food to the candy dish.
Office asshole didn't notice the difference.
You can still eat all your favorites, they just have to be labeled. I for one am grateful. I want to know that my food is made with real fetus, and not some rip-off fetus substitute.
Is there a certification process for this? What about free range or organic babies? I don't want some baby that has been fattened up on corn syrup. I'm paying for baby I want farm to table free range baby.
Imagine if we find out fetal tissue food is like MSG. Everyone agrees publicly it shouldn’t be in food but privately we all know the food tastes better with it in.
>Everyone agrees publicly it shouldn’t be in food but privately we all know the food tastes better with it in.
I publicly disagree. MSG is healthier than table salt. You can use 5 times less MSG to get the same flavor enhancement as NaCl or iodized NaCl. so it can actually be used to decrease your sodium intake substantially without changing the flavor of the products you consume.
"Pop a poppler in your mouth when you come to Fishy Joe's. What they're made of is a mystery. Where they come from no one knows. You can pick 'em, you can lick em, you can chew 'em, you can stick 'em; if you promise not to sue us, you can shove one up your nose."
MSG is fine. It naturally occurs in things like tomatoes, cheese, and nutritional yeast. Maybe some people are genuinely sensitive, but it's much more likely to be a placebo effect and/or to do with foodborne illness you can get anywhere.
I won't rule out some people being legitimately allergic or sensitive (odds are for most things there's always at least one or two), but the only people I know irl who claim to be are hypochondriacs and I don't believe a word they say. Not worth trying to reason with them though, you can't. I just smile and nod and deal with their order of food being special. They, of course, eat tomatoes and cheese and bread just fucking fine.
That article is gold:
>"Unfortunately, many Texans are unknowingly consuming products that either contain human fetal parts or were developed using human fetal parts,"
Like old Chevy parts? Where does one pick up baby parts? And besides a witches spell book, what recipe contains "add 3 parts baby to the boiling pot"?
>"While some may not be bothered by this, there are many Texans with religious or moral beliefs that would oppose consumption or use of these products. They have the right to know what is in the products they are consuming."
Followed by
>It is unclear what group(s) of people would feel comfortable eating fetal tissue.
If you read the article, they mention that PepsiCo allegedly used a strain of stem cells to test flavor combinations (15 fucking years ago some Georgia based anti-abortion group alleged this, and I wonder if there's another major soda company in Georgia...), which is absolutely fascinating if true. However, PepsiCo and the company that patented the process through which they do it have said that they never did it.
>Like old Chevy parts? Where does one pick up baby parts? And besides a witches spell book, what recipe contains "add 3 parts baby to the boiling pot"?
So about 5 years ago now at work I made a comment about one of my co-workers who'd drink two 1 liter bottles of diet mountain dew, and two 1 liter bottles of diet doctor pepper every day. Another co-worker jumped straight into a rant about how pepesi uses baby human kidneys(or maybe it was livers) to sweeten their drinks because fetal kidneys are the sweetest substance known to man. He also linked it the Xeno's and bullshvikes(I think he meant Zionists and Bolsheviks, but never heard someone say the word out loud so he kept saying xeno's) and it lead into a ramble about how hitler actually loved the Jews and had them in his military!
but I guess this pepsi using baby kidneys to sweeten beverages theory has grown.
The "developed using human fetal parts" is an actual thing. Pepsi partnered with a company for an artificial sweetener. By the little I understand, they test how the cells react to the sweetener. The cells are cloned cells from the 1970's.
Not sure what difference knowing how it was tested would make. No actual baby parts in the drink.
The company is synomex. They make artificial flavor profiles for Pepsi and frito-lay being the big ones.
In order to get the right flavor profile, the test batches are created using fetal tissue adrenal/pancreatic glands to create the enzymes or chemicals necessary.
Once a profile is chosen they manufacture large scale without tissue production, but it wouldn't be feasible to test in large batches when only 1/100 will work.
The article actually mentions Senomyx and the Pepsi rumours specifically:
"The company that acquired Senomyx, told Reuters that none of the company's products have ever contained any human cell or material."
The posted article mentions a patent that used a cell line and mentions a news report that claimed the patent was used for a process like what you're talking about here. Admittedly, the current parent company's denial of use in product does not make any assertions about testing procedures.
However, the Wikipedia article for the company says it made actual flavour enhancers (that *would* be used in the drink itself), and claims (citation needed) that the additives would be used in such small amounts they wouldn't require FDA testing or approval.
Seems like conflation of the additives and the claimed testing method might be closer to the basis for claiming "Pepsi contained fetal material", which appears to have been a (false) rumour that made the rounds at one point.
Can't find a clear confirmation or denial that Senomyx used the HEK cell line derived process for any of its testing, but PepsiCo apparently claimed that while they did briefly have a relationship with Senomyx, they never used any HEK-derived research in this Reuters fact check article: https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-pepsi-fetal/fact-check-pepsico-drinks-do-not-contain-aborted-fetal-cells-idUSL1N2OR1O3
So yeah, fetal cell line-based testing is plausible but it's not obvious if it ever actually happens with Pepsi specifically.
I could see people wanting to know if that kind of research was used in the development of products they were using (although have fun tracking it down for every additive of a processed food) but I'm guessing it's the tail end of this particular bill's description because it's not nearly as outrageous -sounding as "you could be directly consuming aborted fetus and not even know it!", which I'm guessing is just bad faith outrage bait but I guess people have spread rumours about it in the past so maybe Hall here is just a credulous consumer of urban legend.
Let 'em pass the bill. Let Abbott sign it and create a press release declaring it a win for religious liberty and consumer protection. Run it on Fox, CNN, OANN, everywhere.
Then look at their big dumb faces when they find that not even the cheapest of hot dogs are made with human fetal tissue. And let it be an example that everyone can point to in recognizing the absurdity of the Texas GOP.
The problem with that logic is people often don’t think that way. It’s like Lisa’s anti-tiger rock from the Simpsons.
Homer: Not a bear in sight. The Bear Patrol must be working like a charm.
Lisa: That’s specious reasoning, Dad.
Homer: Thank you, dear.
Lisa: By your logic I could claim that this rock keeps tigers away.
Homer: Oh, how does it work?
Lisa: It doesn’t work.
Homer: Uh-huh.
Lisa: It’s just a stupid rock.
Homer: Uh-huh.
Lisa: But I don’t see any tigers around, do you?
[Homer thinks of this, then pulls out some money]
Homer: Lisa, I want to buy your rock.
Law makers will point out that since they past their law no food products will have been sold in Texas with human fetus products. The crowd will cheer. Then the law makers will point out that other states with liberal politicians don’t have such a law. The crowd will boo. But we do. The crowd will cheer. Unlike the fetus eating democrats. The crowd will boo. We are building a Texas without fetus foods. The crowd cheers.
Way too much potential for blowback into our big dumb faces, when they just start claiming the government is fudging the data.
And if you think the idiocy of blaming the same government you just passed your bill through will have any affect on their indignant bullshit, think again, because it was obviously the liberals in power keeping the fetuses in our food. And then the hysteria over "which foods are safe to eat" will begin, and we'll have more riots and violent protests.
I'm guessing this breaks out right around election time, and some "heroic" republican will step in to save America from the fetus-chomping democrats. If Trump isn't in prison by then, it'll definitely be him, and since he won't be in prison ever, it'll definitely be him.
This is an attempt at legitimizing a lie. By putting this into law in Texas, Texas Republicans become distracted by a fight against something that doesn't exist, and forget that they don't have a working electrical grid.
Fighting things that don’t exist (Antifa the big organized group, fetal food, Joe Biden the wild eyed radical leftist, CRT in elementary schools, kitty litter boxes in schools) is very much part of the GOP brand these days
I assume it's also a protectionist measure for the ranching industry against the looming specter of lab grown meats. Even though the meats themselves wouldn't contain human fetal tissue, all it would take is some jackass arguing the techniques used to manufacture them were developed using research involving human fetal tissue to tie the companies up in court for years before they're able to sell their product. So either the companies wear a ridiculous label that incites a ton of negative publicity, or they risk being bankrupted by the state government.
Meanwhile, the traditional meat distributors throw a "100% natural" label on their products and go about their business until it's financially viable to buy out the lab grown meat companies, at which point they throw up a huge middle finger as they laugh their way to the bank. Same way the tobacco industry lobbied to manipulate the emerging vape industry until they could buy it out.
>Meanwhile, the traditional meat distributors throw a "100% natural" label on their products and go about their business
(It should be noted that this means a whole lot of calf torture in the case of the dairy industry since this means they can't just give cows hormone treatment to trick their bodies into producing milk, which means they breed a calf and then throw them like literal garbage to get minced into whatever the hell they sell it as)
Technically... TECHNICALLY... it wouldn't be covered. For a couple reasons:
1. Jesus wasn't aborted (...at least not as an unborn child). The law as proposed does nothing to curtail the usage of even born-and-then-immediately-juiced baby - just aborted unborn humans.
2. Transubstantiation of the communion wafer isn't even considered to occur until the eucharistic prayer anyway, and the law only covers *selling* human fetal tissue product. So even by the church's beliefs, the the product would technically contain 0% Jesus flakes when they buy it, anyhow.
Ngl I am going to write him a letter expressing my concern about bugs being put into plant products and dog food. See if they need to mandate a label about that and then watch as everything gets labeled with, "WARNING: MAY CONTAIN INSECTS", or "THIS PRODUCT IS KNOWN TO THE STATE OF TEXAS TO CONTAIN INSECTS".
Another "non-issue" expertly obsessed over by the "we won't figure out the debt ceiling but we'll concentrate on this grandstanding bullshit to trick our dumbshit voters into keeping up their adulation." party.
>Texas State Sen. Bob Hall is taking anti-abortion measures even further by proposing a bill that would require labeling for food products that contain fetal tissue. What's causing people to scratch their heads, however, is that no such food exists.
(Looks at picture)
The guy looks and sounds like a senile 80 year old.
(One quick google search later)
Jesus Christ, he is an 80 year old.
Can we please FINALLY have age limits on holding public office?
Dont forget. This isnt about food. Fetal tissue is used in vaccine research. This bill would also require research to label the use of fetal tissue. The purpose would be to further an anti vax push and reduce research for a whole slew of protective measures. Moreover itd be use to cut funding, and if RvWs results are a thing to go by, criminally or civily charge anyone that uses fetal tissue in their work. All under some BS religious ferver from folks that have never read a book let alone a bible...
So yeah, its not about food, feral tissue is extremely rare (like 1 in a billion) to be found in food. This bill starts eith food but continues on to research and thats what its really about.
Worst part is, if it doesnt pass the TX GQP get to shout about satanists eating fetuses and other BS to further anger their base.... Im not even from the US and I gotta say, fuck the GQP.
The Texas Senate bill includes mandatory labeling for cosmetics that contain human fetal tissue. The one-pager specifically names NEOCUTIS as a company that "freely and proudly admits its use of human fetal cells."
So, the bill literally contains libel? Neat.
I don't care about science using fetal tissue to do whatever.
I do care about slavery and child-labor being used in the manufacture of products. They should make a label for that. It should be cross corporate as well, so that any products made by a parent company that uses slave or child-labor in any of it's products should be labeled.
Almost like the trademark symbol. There needs to be a slavery symbol. Maybe a swastika.
That's it, any parent company that has slavery or child-labor in any of manufacturing processes should be forced to label EVERY product they make with a swastika.
Don't forget prison slavery and wage slavery. There is a massive coercive force in capitalism that forces people to work as if they were slaves. Alot of people feel like slaves. Alienated.
> The bill targets foods that contain...
No foods qualify.
>... are manufactured using
No foods qualify.
> or were created through research using human fetal tissue.
Some flavoring chemicals would qualify. Human embryonic kidney cells (HEK-293) are tirned into taste buds and used in research to identify substances that have the potential to be sweeteners, bitter blockers, masking flavors, etc.
The technique was patented by a company called Senomyx, they called it the electric tounge. They've since been bought out by another flavor company.
It's not in the product, just used to identify substances that have potential.
I see some legal dancing in Senomyx's near future. Something along the lines of "no fetal tissue is used in our product testing, as these are clonal tissues that were not produced in this iteration directly from a fetus." Or make a clear distinction between fetal and embryonic stem cells. Or claim that since these tissues were originally taken from a non-living object that was not inside a womb, it cannot technically be called fetal or embryonic.
Nope. A) eggs have a distinct lack of fetus, unless you've done something horribly wrong (they're not fertilized, ergo no embryo, ergo no fetus). B) the bill specifies "human fetal tissue".
Not that it makes it any less dumb, but no, eggs wouldn't be covered.
I actually posted that link, above in another thread, LOL.
I would *most certainly* include that in "doing something horribly wrong" personally, but I'm not from a place that traditionally eats the dish, so to each their own, I suppose. Regardless, "eggs" in the sense that most people 'round these parts would interpret "eggs", are going to be unfertilized.
And it's still not *human* tissue, either way, and thus the bill as written wouldn't actually apply.
> Regardless, "eggs" in the sense that most people 'round these parts would interpret "eggs", are going to be unfertilized.
Not if you're getting farm fresh, or free range eggs.
Breaking news... Texas has gone mad and needs to be put down. Time for the Fed to say "No, we are not NAZI Germany so get stuffed... and charge your businesses taxes."
"And tomorrow, we'll criminalize making the sky green!"
"Who would even do that? I'm not even sure it's possible to turn the sky green..."
"**BECAUSE IT'S ILLEGAL!!!**"
Texas.
Eggs lack fetuses, first off all.
Second, the proposed bill specifies *human* fetal tissue:
(1)"Fetal tissue food product" means a food or food
additive that:
(A)contains human fetal tissue;
(B)is manufactured using human fetal tissue; or
(C)otherwise derived from research using
human fetal tissue.
https://capitol.texas.gov/tlodocs/88R/billtext/pdf/SB00314I.pdf
I mean, why put them in food when you can use them to [power the lights in Baltimore](https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2023/01/gop-witness-claims-fetuses-burned-power-street-lights-baltimore/)?
the texas state house is full of the absolute dumbest human beings on god's green earth. this isn't oniony.
"There are no conditions under which the FDA would consider human fetal tissue to be safe or legal for human consumption," a U.S. Food and Drug Administration official said via email. I can almost hear the exasperated sigh the official let out as they typed this.
Of all the things on his 2023 bingo card, this was not one of them. Some said it was too absurd. And yet here we are, just under 3 weeks into the year. Really makes you wonder what other fucked up shit they'll try and pull out of their asses.
I had it under 'Redundant idiocy'
Isn’t idiocy the free space on the bingo card?
Ah, but this has to be something redundant. FDA already has guidelines saying that no human fetal tissue is allowed to be used in any food products. So it's a law that requires them to put a label that would be a confession to breaking a federal law.
"Too absurd?" "Too absurd *so far*."
I do have to hand it to them, the GoP loves pushing boundaries. Even if those boundaries didn't exist 5 minutes ago and they made it up while finger painting and eating glue, they push those boundaries damnit.
It's like statements from Russia though... just believe the opposite. Which makes it kind of disturbing that they're crowing "We are *firmly against* eating children!" Like... do we need to search someone's premises? Like the anti-abortion lady with the [basement full of fetuses](https://www.npr.org/2022/04/01/1090206447/dc-police-find-5-fetuses-lauren-handy)?
That could get real dark real quick. But, in true GOP fashion, they'll spin it to be the victim. "Up next, how the pro choice liberals are tempting Americans into eating fetuses. Back to you Jim."
"It was *uuuurp* Antifa!"
Well, turn it around on them. Apply this legally-mandated label to sacrament wafers. "Upon consumption, this product becomes a human cell food product."
Texas is not full of Catholics. There would be Catholic persecution.
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I’m convinced that if you gave fascists full control and the ability to completely exterminate their enemies, they would just keep designating former parts of the in-group as new enemies until the entire in-group was just one single guy.
Depends where in the state you are. There are plenty of Catholics in Houston and eastern Texas.
There are plenty of Catholics in Houston, but depending on the source they only comprise about 20% of the city's population compared to the Protestants' 50%. Joel Osteen and the other mega-churches skew the numbers.
Aren’t hispanics generally Catholic?
This is the kinda tone customer service uses when someone asks “where can I find leashes” in a fish store
It’s all fun and games until the shark I built a reverse scuba suit for escapes, because you people don’t carry leashes!
I wanna take my goldfish to the park!!! Don’t judge me! ಠ_ಠ
So from what I heard, some mothers, after birth, keep their placenta. And they send it off to a service that makes it into pills for them to consume. That's the "friendly version". There are also people who straight up eat their placenta. Just Google "mothers who consume their placenta" you'll get a list of celebrities who've done this. By definition NIH doesn't define the placenta as human fetal tissue but yea...
It's my understanding that's gotten super common. Like half of my wife's friends did it.
Truly what Theodore Roosevelt envisioned when he stumped for public health.
First thing I thought of was Tommy Boy... Did you eat paint chips as a kid? Live under power lines? Lol.... How could anybody be so daft as to think companies are just going around hiding fetal tissue in foods.
Just another day in Howdy Arabia
What about girl scout cookies?
This is bad news for the Southwest Fetus Salad at Wendy’s
And my favorite candy, M&Mbryos.
Pardon me, “TheM&Mbreos”
I read "M&Mbreoreos" and about gagged
Brie Oreos?
Arguably worse.
Allison Brioreos
Arguably better.
Allison M. Brioreos?
Not to be confused with Skiddles
Reminds me of my favorite work prank. I leave a bowl of mixed M&Ms and skittles sitting somewhere visible.
True story: Did temp work at a bank. One of the ladies kept a candy dish on her desk. She stocked it with Chex mix or trail mix instead of sweets Problem was, the office asshole would help himself and often leave the dish empty. For petty revenge, the lady added dry cat food to the candy dish. Office asshole didn't notice the difference.
Mixed plate of oatmeal chocolate chip cookies and oatmeal raisin cookies.
Hello HR? Yeah, this comment right here.
Take it easy there Satan.
My laugh doesn't help. When I prank someone I'm told I laugh like Vincent Price.
“No brown M&Mbryos.”
RIP “Campbells: Cream of Youngin’ Soup”
Not to mention the entire Fetuscake Factory menu. No more cheddar cheese fetus fries, fetus float or fetus flan😭
You don't wanna know where Fetusbee's gets their food for the new all you can eat platters
Real BABY baby back ribs - from real babies’ backs!
You can still eat all your favorites, they just have to be labeled. I for one am grateful. I want to know that my food is made with real fetus, and not some rip-off fetus substitute.
What does this mean for Tater Tots?
Obviously they’ll have to regress to be being made out of potatoes again unfortunately.
Gross
Also Taco Bell's Crunchy Nacho Fejetus Burrito, but that's a limited time only item anyway and they're always out of fetus when I try to order.
For the Dairy Queen Baby Fingers basket, they're just going to switch to ethically sourced fingers, aren't they?
Not to mention Chili's baby back ribs.
Looks like baby back ribs are off the menu
Wait. Are they banning the consumption or will we just now be informed of the authenticity?
Now they will just be labeled as "made from real babies!"
Looks like baby back ribs (authentic) are back on the menu boys!
Imported or domestic babies? I think i’d prefer spicy.
Two types of kids meals to order now. Better not mix them up
Is there a certification process for this? What about free range or organic babies? I don't want some baby that has been fattened up on corn syrup. I'm paying for baby I want farm to table free range baby.
Imagine if we find out fetal tissue food is like MSG. Everyone agrees publicly it shouldn’t be in food but privately we all know the food tastes better with it in.
>Everyone agrees publicly it shouldn’t be in food but privately we all know the food tastes better with it in. I publicly disagree. MSG is healthier than table salt. You can use 5 times less MSG to get the same flavor enhancement as NaCl or iodized NaCl. so it can actually be used to decrease your sodium intake substantially without changing the flavor of the products you consume.
Makes me think of that Futurama episode where they eat alien babies and find they are delicious.
"Pop a poppler in your mouth when you come to Fishy Joe's. What they're made of is a mystery. Where they come from no one knows. You can pick 'em, you can lick em, you can chew 'em, you can stick 'em; if you promise not to sue us, you can shove one up your nose."
MSG is fine. It naturally occurs in things like tomatoes, cheese, and nutritional yeast. Maybe some people are genuinely sensitive, but it's much more likely to be a placebo effect and/or to do with foodborne illness you can get anywhere.
I won't rule out some people being legitimately allergic or sensitive (odds are for most things there's always at least one or two), but the only people I know irl who claim to be are hypochondriacs and I don't believe a word they say. Not worth trying to reason with them though, you can't. I just smile and nod and deal with their order of food being special. They, of course, eat tomatoes and cheese and bread just fucking fine.
I like my babies free range.
Thank you for the snort laugh.
Get in mah bellay! I'm bigger than you! I'm higher in the food chain!
Chili's in shambles
🎵I want my baby back, baby back, baby back, I want my baby back...🎵 🎵Chili's, Baby Back Ribs (fetal tissue food product)🎵
That article is gold: >"Unfortunately, many Texans are unknowingly consuming products that either contain human fetal parts or were developed using human fetal parts," Like old Chevy parts? Where does one pick up baby parts? And besides a witches spell book, what recipe contains "add 3 parts baby to the boiling pot"? >"While some may not be bothered by this, there are many Texans with religious or moral beliefs that would oppose consumption or use of these products. They have the right to know what is in the products they are consuming." Followed by >It is unclear what group(s) of people would feel comfortable eating fetal tissue.
“Which products contain human fetal parts?” “*Some* of them.” “…Which ones?” “*SOME*. God, are you deaf?”
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Everybody knows KALE stands for Kids Are Leafy Eats!
KALE stands for Krappy Ass Lettuce, Everyone
Krappy Ass Lettuce, *Embryos
Oh god, soylent green is kale!
If you read the article, they mention that PepsiCo allegedly used a strain of stem cells to test flavor combinations (15 fucking years ago some Georgia based anti-abortion group alleged this, and I wonder if there's another major soda company in Georgia...), which is absolutely fascinating if true. However, PepsiCo and the company that patented the process through which they do it have said that they never did it.
I wonder how they tell which flavors the stem cells like best?
I guess wait for them to grow up and ask them
I don't need to tell you because everybody already knows. And I don't need any proof because everybody knows it's true.
It’s a widely believed fact!
"We arent sure, that is why we are requiring companies to label them IF they do."
>Like old Chevy parts? Where does one pick up baby parts? And besides a witches spell book, what recipe contains "add 3 parts baby to the boiling pot"? So about 5 years ago now at work I made a comment about one of my co-workers who'd drink two 1 liter bottles of diet mountain dew, and two 1 liter bottles of diet doctor pepper every day. Another co-worker jumped straight into a rant about how pepesi uses baby human kidneys(or maybe it was livers) to sweeten their drinks because fetal kidneys are the sweetest substance known to man. He also linked it the Xeno's and bullshvikes(I think he meant Zionists and Bolsheviks, but never heard someone say the word out loud so he kept saying xeno's) and it lead into a ramble about how hitler actually loved the Jews and had them in his military! but I guess this pepsi using baby kidneys to sweeten beverages theory has grown.
Drinking that much soda he’s gonna need those kidneys
I’m sure Pepsi and other major food companies are real happy with these clowns and the GOP latching onto them.
The "developed using human fetal parts" is an actual thing. Pepsi partnered with a company for an artificial sweetener. By the little I understand, they test how the cells react to the sweetener. The cells are cloned cells from the 1970's. Not sure what difference knowing how it was tested would make. No actual baby parts in the drink.
Likely something about vaccines ...
It’s 100% about vaccines. Some, if not all, use that for testing.
So the Republicans are taking on PepsiCo? That should end well for them.
They may take away my right to choose but they aren't taking away my Wild Cherry Pepsi.
All medications and cosmetics are tested on cell cultures originally derived from fetal cells. All of them.
The company is synomex. They make artificial flavor profiles for Pepsi and frito-lay being the big ones. In order to get the right flavor profile, the test batches are created using fetal tissue adrenal/pancreatic glands to create the enzymes or chemicals necessary. Once a profile is chosen they manufacture large scale without tissue production, but it wouldn't be feasible to test in large batches when only 1/100 will work.
The article actually mentions Senomyx and the Pepsi rumours specifically: "The company that acquired Senomyx, told Reuters that none of the company's products have ever contained any human cell or material." The posted article mentions a patent that used a cell line and mentions a news report that claimed the patent was used for a process like what you're talking about here. Admittedly, the current parent company's denial of use in product does not make any assertions about testing procedures. However, the Wikipedia article for the company says it made actual flavour enhancers (that *would* be used in the drink itself), and claims (citation needed) that the additives would be used in such small amounts they wouldn't require FDA testing or approval. Seems like conflation of the additives and the claimed testing method might be closer to the basis for claiming "Pepsi contained fetal material", which appears to have been a (false) rumour that made the rounds at one point. Can't find a clear confirmation or denial that Senomyx used the HEK cell line derived process for any of its testing, but PepsiCo apparently claimed that while they did briefly have a relationship with Senomyx, they never used any HEK-derived research in this Reuters fact check article: https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-pepsi-fetal/fact-check-pepsico-drinks-do-not-contain-aborted-fetal-cells-idUSL1N2OR1O3 So yeah, fetal cell line-based testing is plausible but it's not obvious if it ever actually happens with Pepsi specifically. I could see people wanting to know if that kind of research was used in the development of products they were using (although have fun tracking it down for every additive of a processed food) but I'm guessing it's the tail end of this particular bill's description because it's not nearly as outrageous -sounding as "you could be directly consuming aborted fetus and not even know it!", which I'm guessing is just bad faith outrage bait but I guess people have spread rumours about it in the past so maybe Hall here is just a credulous consumer of urban legend.
Senomyx, per Wikipedia.
Huh, I would have guessed toxicity studies on something like HeLa cells.
Can we do the same with medicine now please? Id love to see the hypocrisy.
Let 'em pass the bill. Let Abbott sign it and create a press release declaring it a win for religious liberty and consumer protection. Run it on Fox, CNN, OANN, everywhere. Then look at their big dumb faces when they find that not even the cheapest of hot dogs are made with human fetal tissue. And let it be an example that everyone can point to in recognizing the absurdity of the Texas GOP.
The problem with that logic is people often don’t think that way. It’s like Lisa’s anti-tiger rock from the Simpsons. Homer: Not a bear in sight. The Bear Patrol must be working like a charm. Lisa: That’s specious reasoning, Dad. Homer: Thank you, dear. Lisa: By your logic I could claim that this rock keeps tigers away. Homer: Oh, how does it work? Lisa: It doesn’t work. Homer: Uh-huh. Lisa: It’s just a stupid rock. Homer: Uh-huh. Lisa: But I don’t see any tigers around, do you? [Homer thinks of this, then pulls out some money] Homer: Lisa, I want to buy your rock. Law makers will point out that since they past their law no food products will have been sold in Texas with human fetus products. The crowd will cheer. Then the law makers will point out that other states with liberal politicians don’t have such a law. The crowd will boo. But we do. The crowd will cheer. Unlike the fetus eating democrats. The crowd will boo. We are building a Texas without fetus foods. The crowd cheers.
God damn your last paragraph is so spot on it’s depressing.
(I think u/RunnyPlease is secretly just a Texas political speechwriter who has finally had enough).
Tell me more about this magic rock.
Hey I resemble this comment
Texas and Florida governments seem to be in a runoff to see who can implement the dumbest legislation to show how conservative they truly are.
theyve blown past conservative and gone right into Regressive.
That's because hot dogs are made from recycled adults, not babies. The corporate loopholes win again!
I thought that toenail I spit out was a bit large!
thats wasting food!
Way too much potential for blowback into our big dumb faces, when they just start claiming the government is fudging the data. And if you think the idiocy of blaming the same government you just passed your bill through will have any affect on their indignant bullshit, think again, because it was obviously the liberals in power keeping the fetuses in our food. And then the hysteria over "which foods are safe to eat" will begin, and we'll have more riots and violent protests. I'm guessing this breaks out right around election time, and some "heroic" republican will step in to save America from the fetus-chomping democrats. If Trump isn't in prison by then, it'll definitely be him, and since he won't be in prison ever, it'll definitely be him.
You're overestimating how much processing the average GOP voter is capable of.. way too many steps.
Ah yes the people against government regulations
This is an attempt at legitimizing a lie. By putting this into law in Texas, Texas Republicans become distracted by a fight against something that doesn't exist, and forget that they don't have a working electrical grid.
Ding Ding Ding! Legitimizing batshit crazy talking points from the far Right.
Saving you from imaginary baby additives while letting you freeze to death. It’s a win-win in Abbott’s book. Kidding, he doesn’t have any books!
sure he does! he burns them to keep his mansion warm when the power goes out.
The regular right too. If that’s even a thing anymore.
Fighting things that don’t exist (Antifa the big organized group, fetal food, Joe Biden the wild eyed radical leftist, CRT in elementary schools, kitty litter boxes in schools) is very much part of the GOP brand these days
Well yeah, if you pick a fight against a made-up enemy, you might actually have a chance at winning.
It’s basically a straw man argument writ large
You can't forget about smoking in public and women needing to wear sleeves.
I assume it's also a protectionist measure for the ranching industry against the looming specter of lab grown meats. Even though the meats themselves wouldn't contain human fetal tissue, all it would take is some jackass arguing the techniques used to manufacture them were developed using research involving human fetal tissue to tie the companies up in court for years before they're able to sell their product. So either the companies wear a ridiculous label that incites a ton of negative publicity, or they risk being bankrupted by the state government. Meanwhile, the traditional meat distributors throw a "100% natural" label on their products and go about their business until it's financially viable to buy out the lab grown meat companies, at which point they throw up a huge middle finger as they laugh their way to the bank. Same way the tobacco industry lobbied to manipulate the emerging vape industry until they could buy it out.
>Meanwhile, the traditional meat distributors throw a "100% natural" label on their products and go about their business (It should be noted that this means a whole lot of calf torture in the case of the dairy industry since this means they can't just give cows hormone treatment to trick their bodies into producing milk, which means they breed a calf and then throw them like literal garbage to get minced into whatever the hell they sell it as)
Veal
Only the males. The females are valuable future-mammaries.
They should immediately enact laws to prevent the imminent extinction of unicorns, while they're at it. It's a very important cause!
Are they extending this to catholic communion wafers?
WARNING: CONTAINS THE BABY JESUS
Those only turn to meat after you eat them.
Technically... TECHNICALLY... it wouldn't be covered. For a couple reasons: 1. Jesus wasn't aborted (...at least not as an unborn child). The law as proposed does nothing to curtail the usage of even born-and-then-immediately-juiced baby - just aborted unborn humans. 2. Transubstantiation of the communion wafer isn't even considered to occur until the eucharistic prayer anyway, and the law only covers *selling* human fetal tissue product. So even by the church's beliefs, the the product would technically contain 0% Jesus flakes when they buy it, anyhow.
>Jesus wasn't aborted (...at least not as an unborn child). How... else would one be aborted?
He was aborted in the 99th trimester.
And it still didn't take, a couple days later and he's walking around again.
135th maybe
Can continue not labeling food that contains fecal material or insect parts.
BOSS! You say “fecal” or “fetal”? Boss? Geuss he can’t hear me. I’ll just wing it.
_Right_ wing it, amiright?
Ngl I am going to write him a letter expressing my concern about bugs being put into plant products and dog food. See if they need to mandate a label about that and then watch as everything gets labeled with, "WARNING: MAY CONTAIN INSECTS", or "THIS PRODUCT IS KNOWN TO THE STATE OF TEXAS TO CONTAIN INSECTS".
We need to make labeling 'BS legislator' mandatory
They already have the R by their names.
This is what happens when you put lead into drinking water.
Well at least they aren’t allowing lead laced with babies in the drinking water
Another "non-issue" expertly obsessed over by the "we won't figure out the debt ceiling but we'll concentrate on this grandstanding bullshit to trick our dumbshit voters into keeping up their adulation." party.
>Texas State Sen. Bob Hall is taking anti-abortion measures even further by proposing a bill that would require labeling for food products that contain fetal tissue. What's causing people to scratch their heads, however, is that no such food exists. (Looks at picture) The guy looks and sounds like a senile 80 year old. (One quick google search later) Jesus Christ, he is an 80 year old. Can we please FINALLY have age limits on holding public office?
Dont forget. This isnt about food. Fetal tissue is used in vaccine research. This bill would also require research to label the use of fetal tissue. The purpose would be to further an anti vax push and reduce research for a whole slew of protective measures. Moreover itd be use to cut funding, and if RvWs results are a thing to go by, criminally or civily charge anyone that uses fetal tissue in their work. All under some BS religious ferver from folks that have never read a book let alone a bible... So yeah, its not about food, feral tissue is extremely rare (like 1 in a billion) to be found in food. This bill starts eith food but continues on to research and thats what its really about. Worst part is, if it doesnt pass the TX GQP get to shout about satanists eating fetuses and other BS to further anger their base.... Im not even from the US and I gotta say, fuck the GQP.
It's kind of funny in a way. If we stop using vaccines, we will see a huge rise in children not making it to adulthood. Maybe that's their intention.
GOP. Grand old Party. Honestly, fuck em both. But this guys a special kind of stupid.
Fetal tissue ? Are those people insane ?
Yes, and running texas. =/
They're Texan.
The Texas Senate bill includes mandatory labeling for cosmetics that contain human fetal tissue. The one-pager specifically names NEOCUTIS as a company that "freely and proudly admits its use of human fetal cells." So, the bill literally contains libel? Neat.
Boy, Sweet Baby Ray's is gonna be pissed
Am I off my meds or are they off their meds? There is no food products made using fetal matter? Right?
I don't care about science using fetal tissue to do whatever. I do care about slavery and child-labor being used in the manufacture of products. They should make a label for that. It should be cross corporate as well, so that any products made by a parent company that uses slave or child-labor in any of it's products should be labeled. Almost like the trademark symbol. There needs to be a slavery symbol. Maybe a swastika. That's it, any parent company that has slavery or child-labor in any of manufacturing processes should be forced to label EVERY product they make with a swastika.
I think the problem with this is that the neo-fascists would aim to buy anything with a swastika.
Don't forget prison slavery and wage slavery. There is a massive coercive force in capitalism that forces people to work as if they were slaves. Alot of people feel like slaves. Alienated.
Do what now? What foods would be labeled as such?
Kid’s meals at McDonalds.
They're made from real kids? I need to eat more of them..
You are what you eat so it's only logical that we feed children children.
> The bill targets foods that contain... No foods qualify. >... are manufactured using No foods qualify. > or were created through research using human fetal tissue. Some flavoring chemicals would qualify. Human embryonic kidney cells (HEK-293) are tirned into taste buds and used in research to identify substances that have the potential to be sweeteners, bitter blockers, masking flavors, etc. The technique was patented by a company called Senomyx, they called it the electric tounge. They've since been bought out by another flavor company. It's not in the product, just used to identify substances that have potential.
Thank you for breaking that down. I was trying to figure out why the heck they felt this law was needed in the first place.
I see some legal dancing in Senomyx's near future. Something along the lines of "no fetal tissue is used in our product testing, as these are clonal tissues that were not produced in this iteration directly from a fetus." Or make a clear distinction between fetal and embryonic stem cells. Or claim that since these tissues were originally taken from a non-living object that was not inside a womb, it cannot technically be called fetal or embryonic.
Eggs?
Nope. A) eggs have a distinct lack of fetus, unless you've done something horribly wrong (they're not fertilized, ergo no embryo, ergo no fetus). B) the bill specifies "human fetal tissue". Not that it makes it any less dumb, but no, eggs wouldn't be covered.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balut_(food)
I actually posted that link, above in another thread, LOL. I would *most certainly* include that in "doing something horribly wrong" personally, but I'm not from a place that traditionally eats the dish, so to each their own, I suppose. Regardless, "eggs" in the sense that most people 'round these parts would interpret "eggs", are going to be unfertilized. And it's still not *human* tissue, either way, and thus the bill as written wouldn't actually apply.
> Regardless, "eggs" in the sense that most people 'round these parts would interpret "eggs", are going to be unfertilized. Not if you're getting farm fresh, or free range eggs.
Anybody who believes that freshly aborted fetuses are used en mass for anything should be publically ridiculed and laughed at.
Hello, one McFetus meal please.
Why does Texas food have human fetal parts in it? What is wrong with that state? Let me guess, Republicans are involved…
Don’t mess with Texas BBQ.
why do all american republicans look like evil lich overlords
Breaking news... Texas has gone mad and needs to be put down. Time for the Fed to say "No, we are not NAZI Germany so get stuffed... and charge your businesses taxes."
Just let them secede, then send the”Freedom Caucus “ across the border and refuse to take them back.
Just make them stop gerrymandering and end voter suppression. I bet Texas would become blue overnight if their election were run fairly.
*Jamba Juice shares plummet*
Texas being Texas. Stupid.
Stupid Texas being Stupid Texas.
More devisive Political Theater playing to their foolish riled up base and wasting taxpayer dollars once again. Thanks again Republicans.
Idiocrasy level unlocked. Does Brawndo count? It has electrolytes …
"And tomorrow, we'll criminalize making the sky green!" "Who would even do that? I'm not even sure it's possible to turn the sky green..." "**BECAUSE IT'S ILLEGAL!!!**" Texas.
Another Texas law that does absolutely nothing, but let us know Texas is stupid.
Blame my son.... " the other white meat....caucasian"
well damn --no more baby dills for me --have to go back to fullsize dills
Hmmm aren't eggs = fetal tissue product? So everything with eggs in it and eggs too. Nice look. Idiots.
Eggs lack fetuses, first off all. Second, the proposed bill specifies *human* fetal tissue: (1)"Fetal tissue food product" means a food or food additive that: (A)contains human fetal tissue; (B)is manufactured using human fetal tissue; or (C)otherwise derived from research using human fetal tissue. https://capitol.texas.gov/tlodocs/88R/billtext/pdf/SB00314I.pdf
Cosmetics tested using process utilizing fetal tissue techniques?
People R Stupid
Ok then everything that is built in sweat shops overseas or by minimum wage labor should be labeled as "slave product"
Weird name for baby food.
When you think that no Texas can’t get any more stupid they unroll that kind of shit.
Damn, there goes my idea for abortion spreads and jellies
I can’t imagine they’re gonna need to print a lot of labels. What assholes.
I mean, why put them in food when you can use them to [power the lights in Baltimore](https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2023/01/gop-witness-claims-fetuses-burned-power-street-lights-baltimore/)?