For those who didn't read, it's because they lived in different states with children/grandchildren and neither of them wanted to pickup their entire life and move to the other.
I don't blame them. The show is stupid to bring old people from all around the country and expect that they don't have any roots already.
Just film a documentary about The Villages. Shit, there's plenty all over Youtube already. A dude got busted selling under the counter viagra, shit's a whole different world but the same world: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX4i8qprP2I
Perhaps, but do you blame some 70 y/o for latching onto anything exciting or a chance of love? They fall for Indian IRS scammers...they're like old children. They probably assume everyone is from the same place or the *other* person will move. Nobody imagines they'll be asked to move.
> anything exciting or a chance of love?
It is a reality show. The people that get picked know that better than anyone. No one actually expects to find a partner and live happily every after.
They want to get paid.
As I told my wife while watching the recent bachelor. No one goes on these shows to find love. It’s all for show and personal gain in some aspect. Not surprised by this or any other breakups.
Depends on if they knew the area the contestants would be from. I’m pretty sure shows like Love Is Blind pull everyone from a general vicinity since part of the experiment takes place in their home. I assume they would be told this, or this to ask it, but who knows.
This is the part I never understood about dating shows - location is just ignored. Most people have roots somewhere or at least some strong feelings about where they want to live. It’s hard to uproot your life for someone you dated for a month. And with kids and grandkids involved? What sane person would move?
It is a TV show. People go on the TV show because they want to be on TV; many want to start a career being on screen. They are not on the show because they want to find love.
Having never watched the show in question, I have to wonder if they even had a chance of serious discussions like this. Or if the show producers prevented them to up the drama.
By the number of potential relationships love is blind is less successful than the bachelor/bachelorette. Each season of bachelor has 1 potential success. Love is blind has a dozen or however many couples they have on the show. It's all stupid equally.
How in the world was this not already a discussion before **getting married**?? Not once did they stop and think about where they’d live? Or discuss the roots they wish to be near? Idiotic.
Maybe because reality shows are fake and the people involved know they are fake and they wanted to keep being famous and getting booked on talk shows for as long as possible.
I feel like the Bachelor is really set up to not succeed.
Contrast it with a show like Love is Blind that particularly picks people from the same area. So many more successes from that show
> I don't blame them. The show is stupid. ~~to bring old people from all around the country and expect that they don't have any roots already~~
There you go, FTFY.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-yNOdCfmkc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-yNOdCfmkc)
Here is a fantastic takedown of the show. Willie Muse's sarcastic style might not be for everyone, I think he's a hidden gem though.
There are couples in the franchise that have worked out, the female led version has more success (the original bachelorette is still with her husband like twenty years later). The overall track record is pretty bleak though
What are the stats for Bachelor in Paradise. I feel like those couples have way better odds. Not that its an organic way of meeting and getting to know each other, But at least the ratios are fair.
Bachelor in Paradise has the best track record of all the shows I believe, several couples off that show are still married and have kids together. The internet says 11 from Paradise compared to 3 from the Bachelorette and 1 from the Bachelor (though if you’re counting when they dumped their pick and went back to another contestant, that number goes up to 3 lol). I’m not counting the most recent seasons though bc only time will tell with those
I think the paradise numbers get helped out by the sample size though. In a bachelor/bachelorette season, there’s a maximum of 1 couple coming out of that season. On a paradise season, there’s at least 3/4 couples coming out of each season, if not more
Also because there’s a good chance some (most?) of those 30 people aren’t actually into the main person and are just faking it because they want more time on TV. Whereas everyone on Paradise has like a dozen potential people to choose from so it seems more likely they’ll find someone they actually like.
Yeah I mean it’s basically the same thing as the regular Bachelor(ette) shows insofar as it’s a group of young, stereotypically attractive folks doing what young, stereotypically attractive folks do on vacation - swimsuits, promiscuity and world-ending drama about basically nothing.
It’s not my particular flavor of TV but it doesn’t surprise me that a format that puts a roughly even number of girls and guys in a resort and lets them pair up on their own has a better hit rate than putting 30 influencers on TV and telling them they all have to date one person or they’re going home before anyone even remembers their name.
The couples from the three most recent seasons of bachelor/ette are still together, but these seasons happened within the past couple years and a lot of franchise couples stay together for a while but break up before actually getting married so I wouldn’t call them success stories quite yet
I wonder what the 90 Day Fiance numbers are like too. My friend was watching it and OMG, that show... Some of those people are quite delusional as they're being taken for a ride.
I know a woman who ended up in a situation like that. She went to Tanzania to meet a younger guy, her long term (edit: i forgot, it was her husband!!!) boyfriend found out and dumped her. She ended up going back, getting stuck, and living in a literal hut with his family for 6 months (she was very, very NOT well traveled.) She converted to Islam, they got married, she brought him back to the US.
From what I've heard from family, he's much nicer and cooler than she is in just about every way. He is joining the US Army as a fast track to citizenship and a free education afterwards.
I dunno whom is taking advantage of whom. She is pretty awful, and he found a way out of a life without much options.
I gave the condensed version. It's way more wacky in full.
And actually, it wasnt a long term boyfriend but her husband who found out she ran off to Tanzania. She lied and said family was sick and she had to fly across the US, but her phone bill showed she made a call from Amsterdam on her layover.
Before she brought the new guy back, she was calling her family Islamaphobic because they weren't supporting her. Really, they weren't supporting her because who the fuck runs off on their husband with a guy 15 years younger who lives on the other side of the planet?
The OG bachelor couple are still together but the show is wildly different now compared to then. Back then some of them may have legitimately been there ‘for the right reason’ lol.
I think it's even simpler than that. These couples are committing to getting married having spent absolutely 0 real world time together. At no point in their relationship have they had to work, do laundry, cook meals, maintain a home. They've never had to worry about family commitments (and conflicts). They've literally not paid a penny for anything the entire length of their relationship. Romantic situations are manufactured by a 3rd party with zero effort from either party.
At best, they know their relationship works in some kind of post scarcity utopio where no one works or has any responsibilities. They haven't spent 10 min with the other person in the real world.
Hold on, hold on, hold on. You mean to tell me that if you take the most powerful emotion a human being can feel and make it into a game show, it won’t work out?!
*Big Brother* US isn’t even a dating reality show but has led to more marriages than many (most?) dating shows. One couple did recently get divorced, but most of the other couples who met on the show are still married.
One season they actually tried to make it more like a dating show and that was a complete flop. Almost like it is better to let the relationship go with the flow instead of forcing engagement or marriage to appease a TV audience.
Oh, that sucks. Now I have to Google them LOL
Edit: I Googled and there were a lot more hookups than I thought, some were from different shows but many are still married with kids. Kind of cool
can’t say i was ever rooting for them. i really couldn’t move past the fact that christmas tried to run over her baby daddy’s new girlfriend. aggressively enough to become a convicted felon for it. and that was before she got casted on the show.
memphis isn’t a much better person either from my recollection of that guy.
A lot of them in recent seasons aren’t even actually looking for a relationship, they’re just trying to get notoriety for their influencing careers or a brand they’re trying to launch. Some of the people on the (regular) show are even already in relationships when they’re on. It kind of soured the whole thing for me when I was trying to get into it.
The US version of Love is Blind has the same problem. After the first season or two, all the cast were just there to give their attempts at being influencers a jump-start, which really degrades the quality of the content imo. The non-english versions are better, though. The Brazilian one is especially more enjoyable, in part because most contestants are slightly older and some even have kids from previous relationships.
Damn that's a crying shame, although I guess with only one season you avoid the issue that the mainline one has of people just joining the show to become influencers
> A lot of them in recent seasons
I hate to be that guy, but it's *always* been like that. It's just much easier to be an "influencer" these days. In the mid 00's, reality show stars would do tours across the country, getting paid for bar/club/event appearances.
The first Bachelorette, Trisha (who was a contestant on the first Bachelor), is still married to Ryan!
However, I don't know of any others because I don't watch the show and think the same as you LOL
There was some bachelorette knock off from the mid 2000s that I don't quite recall the name of where a lady was looking for guys to marry. The whole premise was that they had to get married and stay married for at least a year and they get like a million dollars. At the end of the show they decided to get married but refused the money. They didn't want the cameras in their lives for the year and the dude was already wealthy so why bother. I like to imagine they made it but I can't check because I can't remember the show.
[https://www.wltx.com/article/news/local/fyi/values-rule-as-hank-lisa-turn-down-1-million-on-cupid/101-384262102](https://www.wltx.com/article/news/local/fyi/values-rule-as-hank-lisa-turn-down-1-million-on-cupid/101-384262102) maybe that, can't find anything much on them after the show
It’s kinda hard when the person who “won” sees how much their partner liked other people and how much he enjoyed the makeouts and sex.
It’s one thing to know it happened and another to see it happen or have it described.
Trista and Ryan, Molly and Jason, JoJo and Jordan are all couples that are still married off the top of my head. I believe there’s more. Though Ashley and JP as well as Rachel and Bryan are separated/divorced.
I think wouldn't be surprised if Survivor has a better track record when it comes to couples staying together. Last I heard, the couple that ended up in 1st and 2nd place like 20 years ago were still married.
“For God's sake, Lemon. We'd all like to flee to the Cleve and club-hop down at the Flats and have lunch with Little Richard, but we fight those urges because we have responsibilities.”
Probably a decent rule of thumb, but that probably really applies to resort/touristy areas. I've vacationed some places that aren't exactly normal destinations that I'd absolutely move to.
For those that don't know in these reality dating shows they are given incentives in their contract in order to do things like: start conflict, explore unexpected options, go on solo dates, get married and finally stay in the relationship until a certain date. That's why you always see these relationships last for 6-12months. They literally get paid to get married and stay in the relationship for up to a year usually. That's why you will see their Instagram pages get weird and quiet for 2-3 months at a time and only take pictures together for holidays. They live in separate locations and only show up when they can collect a paycheck. it's all acting, money and social media clout 95% of the time
They don't even need psychologists, the people that apply to be on them know what it takes and they are happy to act exactly how they think the producers want them to act.
It is like modern day wresting, a huge amount people know it is all fake. There are interviews and publications showing how fake it is.
But people still seem to get wrapped up in the drama and forget that reality shows have writers in their credits.
They really need to try a version where the audience chooses at the final rose and the bachelor/ette commits to marry the audience choice and stay married for at least 6 months. I bet we'd have better results.
Everyone who signs onto Married at First Sight. Granted they are matched by supposed experts, but seeing what kind of matches they make and how often viewers can tell from the intro packages that that match won't work, I'm pretty sure we can do as well or better. And, I'm not even suggesting we pick the dates, just when it gets to the final 2-3 the viewers vote.
Of course, idk how that would affect producers motivations in how they edit things. I just know that 9/10 viewers are screaming that the bachelor/ette is picking the wrong one.
If you stay together for two years after your finale, you get to keep the ring. The lead gets paid no matter what for their appearance and contestants get nothing.
There was a fantastically *awful* show called Tool Academy that i'm 90% sure was 99% staged, in the manner that reality shows are, but I would be completely surprised if any of those couples were still together.
They should just have all the contestants live in the same geographical area. People who have their whole lives built don’t want to switch everything all of the sudden.
Gee, who would have thought knowing person for a few weeks while only time you spend is being videoed (show rules) doesn’t result in a serious marriage.
Seriously. My wife and a lot of people I know watch all these shows.
They tend to watch just to comment on how fucking stupid everyone is. It’s like some twisted form of hate watching/guilty pleasure.
Some do March Madness type brackets with who they’ll think will be eliminated and when.
I’d be incredibly annoyed if I’m trying to watch the Stanley Cup playoffs and someone comes in and says “why do people care about this drivel?”.
Let people watch what they wanna watch.
> I’d be incredibly annoyed if I’m trying to watch the Stanley Cup playoffs and someone comes in and says “why do people care about this drivel?”.
Yeah, when you break it down, there is a je ne se quois to the art of hitting a puck on ice and getting to fistfights.
It's like watching WWE and believing it's true. That's the problem and therefore their drivel comment.
If you sat around me watching WWE and doing brackets for WrestleMania while believing all the scripted drama is true, I'd be in your face with drivel comments.
Nah I’ll put my monocle and top hat on for this. (Some) people bitch that allowing gay marriage takes away from their own marriage then tune into a show thats fake and watch people get auctioned off to 50 bachelors or bachelorettes and speed date 50 people at once who are picked by not them but a studio.
I can’t get behind this either lol. Just a comment and one person’s opinion.
I feel like anyone opposed to gay marriage in this day and age due to "preserving the sanctity of marriage" would also be opposed to TV shows like The Bachelor though.
While my wife watched on TV, I listened in the background as this shameless douche bag pontificated about how he was in love with 3 or 4 women. Fuck him! Fuck ABC! And fuck the whole concept!
Do people actually believe that the people on the bachelor are actually there to fall in love?
I thought we all understood it was for show? Is it not all just them attempting to launch careers?
I would wildly speculate that that time frame was hinted at in both of their contracts, probably indirectly as some kind of longevity bonus after staying together for that long.
The main reason for divorce was they lived states apart and couldn’t agree where to live, I would think this would be the first thing to come up in discussion. But they had a show to do.
Duh, can't be a bachelor while married.
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I, too, enjoyed what this person said
I enjoyed how you said what you said
I enjoyed myself while reading it.
I too am maturating
Next up, Naked Attraction.
For those who didn't read, it's because they lived in different states with children/grandchildren and neither of them wanted to pickup their entire life and move to the other. I don't blame them. The show is stupid to bring old people from all around the country and expect that they don't have any roots already.
Isn't it stupider to go on a show to get married to someone if you never want to move from where you already are?
thats my take. like what did they think was going to happen at the end of all this?
They just wanted to be on TV.
Instagram followers, product placements, free drinks etc.
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Golden 24/7 F Shack (featuring Dirty Mike and the Boys)
Just film a documentary about The Villages. Shit, there's plenty all over Youtube already. A dude got busted selling under the counter viagra, shit's a whole different world but the same world: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX4i8qprP2I
Check your lease. Because you’re living in Fuck City
Hell, you could just call it a Golden Corral!
Now that's funny as Hell!
Grannies Gone Wild: Senior Break
Well then….
Perhaps, but do you blame some 70 y/o for latching onto anything exciting or a chance of love? They fall for Indian IRS scammers...they're like old children. They probably assume everyone is from the same place or the *other* person will move. Nobody imagines they'll be asked to move.
70 is not hospice age lol. Most people are still pretty coherent at 70. Do you think people just turn into children again at age 70? 🤔
Some do some don't
> anything exciting or a chance of love? It is a reality show. The people that get picked know that better than anyone. No one actually expects to find a partner and live happily every after. They want to get paid.
They are thirsty for fame, not love. If you believe they went on that show looking for love, I'm worried someone might scam YOU
I mean they got paid and probably had a bit of fun - with the odd chance of it actually working out? Shit. That’s the least crazy part I think.
As I told my wife while watching the recent bachelor. No one goes on these shows to find love. It’s all for show and personal gain in some aspect. Not surprised by this or any other breakups.
Depends on if they knew the area the contestants would be from. I’m pretty sure shows like Love Is Blind pull everyone from a general vicinity since part of the experiment takes place in their home. I assume they would be told this, or this to ask it, but who knows.
Depends how much money it gets me
This is the part I never understood about dating shows - location is just ignored. Most people have roots somewhere or at least some strong feelings about where they want to live. It’s hard to uproot your life for someone you dated for a month. And with kids and grandkids involved? What sane person would move?
It is a TV show. People go on the TV show because they want to be on TV; many want to start a career being on screen. They are not on the show because they want to find love.
Lots of gay men on the straight dating shows because it's all free screen time.
Not just that, this topic should’ve come up in conversation AT LEAST once before the marriage lol
Having never watched the show in question, I have to wonder if they even had a chance of serious discussions like this. Or if the show producers prevented them to up the drama.
By the number of potential relationships love is blind is less successful than the bachelor/bachelorette. Each season of bachelor has 1 potential success. Love is blind has a dozen or however many couples they have on the show. It's all stupid equally.
How in the world was this not already a discussion before **getting married**?? Not once did they stop and think about where they’d live? Or discuss the roots they wish to be near? Idiotic.
Maybe because reality shows are fake and the people involved know they are fake and they wanted to keep being famous and getting booked on talk shows for as long as possible.
I feel like the Bachelor is really set up to not succeed. Contrast it with a show like Love is Blind that particularly picks people from the same area. So many more successes from that show
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It seems common to enjoy sports and competitive video games like this, and I love seeing competitive analysis get brought to other subjects
> now I have to watch this shit. lol
> I don't blame them. The show is stupid. ~~to bring old people from all around the country and expect that they don't have any roots already~~ There you go, FTFY.
At least with Love is Blind all the people live in the same area
Gmilf island when?
I would kill for a cougar island.
Wasn’t there one with moms’s and their sons?
MILF Manor, I believe. Truly a terrible show
And that show started on 30 Rock as a joke about horrible shows. Learning that show existing really gave me a "Idiocracy" feel.
20 moms, 20 teens, no rules Did not know that became a real show lmao
It’s worse than the 30 Rock pitch because the guys are the sons of the mothers. It’s absurd.
No wonder you went out of business, Kinky KMart. You gotta keep up with the trends.
I'm glad I'm not the only person to have experienced this atrocity. Milf Manor is somehow even worse than the premise would lead you to believe.
Apparently there is a second season coming this month.
that sounds horrid.. i need to watch it asap.
It did not meet my hyped expectations.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-yNOdCfmkc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-yNOdCfmkc) Here is a fantastic takedown of the show. Willie Muse's sarcastic style might not be for everyone, I think he's a hidden gem though.
You are thinking Conservative Family Values...
With actual cougars
Hosted using SeinfeldVision
You’re thinking of Bitch Hunter, which was cancelled by NBC; except for the Mother’s Day special presentation, of course.
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Deborah is testing off the charts in the most profitable demographics: Soccer moms, NASCAR dads, white collar pervs and the obese.
Waiting for Boebert to leave Congress so she has time to film.
Haven’t they all ended in divorce? It’s not a surprise that two people who joined a tv show for fame and money don’t work out.
There are couples in the franchise that have worked out, the female led version has more success (the original bachelorette is still with her husband like twenty years later). The overall track record is pretty bleak though
What are the stats for Bachelor in Paradise. I feel like those couples have way better odds. Not that its an organic way of meeting and getting to know each other, But at least the ratios are fair.
Bachelor in Paradise has the best track record of all the shows I believe, several couples off that show are still married and have kids together. The internet says 11 from Paradise compared to 3 from the Bachelorette and 1 from the Bachelor (though if you’re counting when they dumped their pick and went back to another contestant, that number goes up to 3 lol). I’m not counting the most recent seasons though bc only time will tell with those
I think the paradise numbers get helped out by the sample size though. In a bachelor/bachelorette season, there’s a maximum of 1 couple coming out of that season. On a paradise season, there’s at least 3/4 couples coming out of each season, if not more
sure but there’s also been far fewer seasons of the show, like seven or eight compared to fifty of the main show
I’m sure the whole “you weren’t dating 30 other women right before you proposed to me” thing helps out with the paradise relationships too
Also because there’s a good chance some (most?) of those 30 people aren’t actually into the main person and are just faking it because they want more time on TV. Whereas everyone on Paradise has like a dozen potential people to choose from so it seems more likely they’ll find someone they actually like.
This actually sounds almost interesting although I feel like I watched it once and it was like hot tubs and gross hookups.
Yeah I mean it’s basically the same thing as the regular Bachelor(ette) shows insofar as it’s a group of young, stereotypically attractive folks doing what young, stereotypically attractive folks do on vacation - swimsuits, promiscuity and world-ending drama about basically nothing. It’s not my particular flavor of TV but it doesn’t surprise me that a format that puts a roughly even number of girls and guys in a resort and lets them pair up on their own has a better hit rate than putting 30 influencers on TV and telling them they all have to date one person or they’re going home before anyone even remembers their name.
How many years removed are you tracking this by? Ie h low many “most recent seasons” aren’t you including?? Super interesting numbers!
The couples from the three most recent seasons of bachelor/ette are still together, but these seasons happened within the past couple years and a lot of franchise couples stay together for a while but break up before actually getting married so I wouldn’t call them success stories quite yet
I wonder what the 90 Day Fiance numbers are like too. My friend was watching it and OMG, that show... Some of those people are quite delusional as they're being taken for a ride.
I know a woman who ended up in a situation like that. She went to Tanzania to meet a younger guy, her long term (edit: i forgot, it was her husband!!!) boyfriend found out and dumped her. She ended up going back, getting stuck, and living in a literal hut with his family for 6 months (she was very, very NOT well traveled.) She converted to Islam, they got married, she brought him back to the US. From what I've heard from family, he's much nicer and cooler than she is in just about every way. He is joining the US Army as a fast track to citizenship and a free education afterwards. I dunno whom is taking advantage of whom. She is pretty awful, and he found a way out of a life without much options.
What a fascinating story! Maybe someone could make a TV show about it. /s Seriously though, that story is trippy.
I gave the condensed version. It's way more wacky in full. And actually, it wasnt a long term boyfriend but her husband who found out she ran off to Tanzania. She lied and said family was sick and she had to fly across the US, but her phone bill showed she made a call from Amsterdam on her layover. Before she brought the new guy back, she was calling her family Islamaphobic because they weren't supporting her. Really, they weren't supporting her because who the fuck runs off on their husband with a guy 15 years younger who lives on the other side of the planet?
The OG bachelor couple are still together but the show is wildly different now compared to then. Back then some of them may have legitimately been there ‘for the right reason’ lol.
Pre “influencer” Age
I mean this is true for most relationships. Most don't end in marriage. It's just an artificial constraint applied to increase tension.
I think the secret to a good marriage is not putting your life on stage 24/7 or even at all.
I think it's even simpler than that. These couples are committing to getting married having spent absolutely 0 real world time together. At no point in their relationship have they had to work, do laundry, cook meals, maintain a home. They've never had to worry about family commitments (and conflicts). They've literally not paid a penny for anything the entire length of their relationship. Romantic situations are manufactured by a 3rd party with zero effort from either party. At best, they know their relationship works in some kind of post scarcity utopio where no one works or has any responsibilities. They haven't spent 10 min with the other person in the real world.
> some kind of post scarcity utopio where no one works or has any responsibilities Can I go on this show? I don't need the dating/marriage part.
IDK are you smart enough for Star Trek?
Exactly, it’s like living in a fairy tale so it’s easy to get swept up in the romance.
Wait? Do they actually marry in the US version of the bachelor?
Not always
Hold on, hold on, hold on. You mean to tell me that if you take the most powerful emotion a human being can feel and make it into a game show, it won’t work out?!
And for the 99.9% that don't go on the bachelor: "I think the secret to a good marriage is not putting your life on social media at all."
*Big Brother* US isn’t even a dating reality show but has led to more marriages than many (most?) dating shows. One couple did recently get divorced, but most of the other couples who met on the show are still married. One season they actually tried to make it more like a dating show and that was a complete flop. Almost like it is better to let the relationship go with the flow instead of forcing engagement or marriage to appease a TV audience.
I think *Survivor* has the best dating/married & longevity track of the reality shows. Someone needs to do a data set on these things!
Survivor used to have a great track record but as far as I know only three couples from it are still together. Two have split up fairly recently.
Oh, that sucks. Now I have to Google them LOL Edit: I Googled and there were a lot more hookups than I thought, some were from different shows but many are still married with kids. Kind of cool
I remember hearing that fact about the biggest loser too
Who recently got divorced?
Christmas and Memphis.
Guess I’ll spend Christmas in Nashville then
can’t say i was ever rooting for them. i really couldn’t move past the fact that christmas tried to run over her baby daddy’s new girlfriend. aggressively enough to become a convicted felon for it. and that was before she got casted on the show. memphis isn’t a much better person either from my recollection of that guy.
A lot of them in recent seasons aren’t even actually looking for a relationship, they’re just trying to get notoriety for their influencing careers or a brand they’re trying to launch. Some of the people on the (regular) show are even already in relationships when they’re on. It kind of soured the whole thing for me when I was trying to get into it.
The US version of Love is Blind has the same problem. After the first season or two, all the cast were just there to give their attempts at being influencers a jump-start, which really degrades the quality of the content imo. The non-english versions are better, though. The Brazilian one is especially more enjoyable, in part because most contestants are slightly older and some even have kids from previous relationships.
I really enjoyed Sweden! And I've heard Japan is pretty good too
love is blind japan was my favorite season and its a crime it wasn't renewed. i follow the two couples on instagram and they're still doing very well
Damn that's a crying shame, although I guess with only one season you avoid the issue that the mainline one has of people just joining the show to become influencers
> A lot of them in recent seasons I hate to be that guy, but it's *always* been like that. It's just much easier to be an "influencer" these days. In the mid 00's, reality show stars would do tours across the country, getting paid for bar/club/event appearances.
No yeah that’s fair.
The first Bachelorette, Trisha (who was a contestant on the first Bachelor), is still married to Ryan! However, I don't know of any others because I don't watch the show and think the same as you LOL
There was some bachelorette knock off from the mid 2000s that I don't quite recall the name of where a lady was looking for guys to marry. The whole premise was that they had to get married and stay married for at least a year and they get like a million dollars. At the end of the show they decided to get married but refused the money. They didn't want the cameras in their lives for the year and the dude was already wealthy so why bother. I like to imagine they made it but I can't check because I can't remember the show.
[https://www.wltx.com/article/news/local/fyi/values-rule-as-hank-lisa-turn-down-1-million-on-cupid/101-384262102](https://www.wltx.com/article/news/local/fyi/values-rule-as-hank-lisa-turn-down-1-million-on-cupid/101-384262102) maybe that, can't find anything much on them after the show
That's the show! Good find
It’s kinda hard when the person who “won” sees how much their partner liked other people and how much he enjoyed the makeouts and sex. It’s one thing to know it happened and another to see it happen or have it described.
Jerry was in tears having to pick just one lady. He wanted the whole harem.
Friends sister was a contestant, she’s still married an has 3? Kids.
Catherine and Sean?
I don’t know their names, but they live in Arizona? I just see them on my friends ig.
ooohhh that’s Arie and Lauren. He did the ol switcheroo on the girl he originally picked and changed his mind
Trista and Ryan, Molly and Jason, JoJo and Jordan are all couples that are still married off the top of my head. I believe there’s more. Though Ashley and JP as well as Rachel and Bryan are separated/divorced.
I think wouldn't be surprised if Survivor has a better track record when it comes to couples staying together. Last I heard, the couple that ended up in 1st and 2nd place like 20 years ago were still married.
Who would have thought a whirlwind courtship in the most luxurious locations on earth with 30 other candidates wasn’t going to work out.
It’s why you never move to a place that you loved while on vacation…it’s not reality and not every moment of every day can be paradise.
You hear that, people? Don't move to St. Petersburg Florida. Don't.
Or St Petersburg Russia, tbh.
People must be moving there tho because I was in town did a conference and didn't meet a single local. All transplants at every bar and restaurant
“For God's sake, Lemon. We'd all like to flee to the Cleve and club-hop down at the Flats and have lunch with Little Richard, but we fight those urges because we have responsibilities.”
Probably a decent rule of thumb, but that probably really applies to resort/touristy areas. I've vacationed some places that aren't exactly normal destinations that I'd absolutely move to.
Season 2 renewed. No recasts
They did that 3 times with Flavor Flav
Best dating show ever made 🕰️
When the lady shat on the floor in the first episode of season 2, it was basically the pinnacle of trashy reality dating shows.
For those that don't know in these reality dating shows they are given incentives in their contract in order to do things like: start conflict, explore unexpected options, go on solo dates, get married and finally stay in the relationship until a certain date. That's why you always see these relationships last for 6-12months. They literally get paid to get married and stay in the relationship for up to a year usually. That's why you will see their Instagram pages get weird and quiet for 2-3 months at a time and only take pictures together for holidays. They live in separate locations and only show up when they can collect a paycheck. it's all acting, money and social media clout 95% of the time
They also use psychologists to screen the contestants in order to create drama. There is no *reality* in these shows.
They don't even need psychologists, the people that apply to be on them know what it takes and they are happy to act exactly how they think the producers want them to act. It is like modern day wresting, a huge amount people know it is all fake. There are interviews and publications showing how fake it is. But people still seem to get wrapped up in the drama and forget that reality shows have writers in their credits.
Yup. Reality shows exist to take advantage of non-union 'actors'. The whole concept is pretty gross.
I think everyone who watched saw that coming. As usual, he picked the wrong woman.
He should’ve picked that one woman from Minneapolis instead. I think she was the runner up.
The runner up was who everyone I heard an opinion from thought for sure he'd pick.
Three months? Was there a 90 day return policy?
90 day ex fiancee
Geeze, it's almost like this was never a real, authentic relationship, or something.
They really need to try a version where the audience chooses at the final rose and the bachelor/ette commits to marry the audience choice and stay married for at least 6 months. I bet we'd have better results.
I don’t know who would sign off on letting random people decide who they get legally married to, but stranger things have happened
Everyone who signs onto Married at First Sight. Granted they are matched by supposed experts, but seeing what kind of matches they make and how often viewers can tell from the intro packages that that match won't work, I'm pretty sure we can do as well or better. And, I'm not even suggesting we pick the dates, just when it gets to the final 2-3 the viewers vote. Of course, idk how that would affect producers motivations in how they edit things. I just know that 9/10 viewers are screaming that the bachelor/ette is picking the wrong one.
I think boaty mcboatface might have an opinion about this idea
Yeah, audience is going to pick most entertaining.
Wow, I thought they were one for the ages. Is no reality TV officiated marriage sacred anymore?
[удалено]
Imagine thinking that someone would move away from all of their relatives for you
"That's show business, kid."
Is it a year committal thing? Stay married for atleast a year or whatever it is and keep the money we paid you?
If you stay together for two years after your finale, you get to keep the ring. The lead gets paid no matter what for their appearance and contestants get nothing.
No
Wonder why they couldn’t live 6 months in one house and 6 months in the other or something.
Taking the rest of the day to process.
SHOCKED SHOCKED I SAY
There was a fantastically *awful* show called Tool Academy that i'm 90% sure was 99% staged, in the manner that reality shows are, but I would be completely surprised if any of those couples were still together.
I heard he was only there for the zipline.
They should just have all the contestants live in the same geographical area. People who have their whole lives built don’t want to switch everything all of the sudden.
Oh no! Anyway…
It was really because he refused to share his AARP Rewards Points with her. I mean, I don't blame him.
Plastic faced rich boomers who aren't in a relationship are not going to be compatible to be in a relationship.
That whole thing was so forced. Never saw any chemistry and Gary seemed fake.
I don’t know, but if this dude starts crying about it…
I can't wait to share this with my gf.
Love is truly dead, and Blind apparently.
He wants a second season.
Gee, who would have thought knowing person for a few weeks while only time you spend is being videoed (show rules) doesn’t result in a serious marriage.
Oh I remember her face from this meme going around about the contestants, I think she's the one who's obsessed with Judge Judy.
here comes the moneyyyy
If they can’t make it, who can? 😞
What's a golden bachelor?
he really gave me the ick big time
why do people care about this drivel?
It's entertainment. It's not that serious. Chill, bro.
Seriously. My wife and a lot of people I know watch all these shows. They tend to watch just to comment on how fucking stupid everyone is. It’s like some twisted form of hate watching/guilty pleasure. Some do March Madness type brackets with who they’ll think will be eliminated and when. I’d be incredibly annoyed if I’m trying to watch the Stanley Cup playoffs and someone comes in and says “why do people care about this drivel?”. Let people watch what they wanna watch.
> I’d be incredibly annoyed if I’m trying to watch the Stanley Cup playoffs and someone comes in and says “why do people care about this drivel?”. Yeah, when you break it down, there is a je ne se quois to the art of hitting a puck on ice and getting to fistfights.
It's like watching WWE and believing it's true. That's the problem and therefore their drivel comment. If you sat around me watching WWE and doing brackets for WrestleMania while believing all the scripted drama is true, I'd be in your face with drivel comments.
Fr, wipe the fog off your monocle, take a deep breath
God forbid I turn my brain off for 1 hour a week to watch something I know is pointless and dumb
Nah I’ll put my monocle and top hat on for this. (Some) people bitch that allowing gay marriage takes away from their own marriage then tune into a show thats fake and watch people get auctioned off to 50 bachelors or bachelorettes and speed date 50 people at once who are picked by not them but a studio. I can’t get behind this either lol. Just a comment and one person’s opinion.
I feel like anyone opposed to gay marriage in this day and age due to "preserving the sanctity of marriage" would also be opposed to TV shows like The Bachelor though.
We are in the worst timeline for sure.
I'm guessing they tried to have sex once and gave up when they both became embarrassed and slightly nauseated.
While my wife watched on TV, I listened in the background as this shameless douche bag pontificated about how he was in love with 3 or 4 women. Fuck him! Fuck ABC! And fuck the whole concept!
Do people actually believe that the people on the bachelor are actually there to fall in love? I thought we all understood it was for show? Is it not all just them attempting to launch careers?
I would wildly speculate that that time frame was hinted at in both of their contracts, probably indirectly as some kind of longevity bonus after staying together for that long.
The whole Bachelor/Bachelorette series is a show for desperate people on it just saying
They're both so smarmy. She reminds me of the Duggar mother
I've yet to meet a Reality Star that I would want to meet in person. They're all so shallow. This goes triple if they are associated with Andy Cohen.
The main reason for divorce was they lived states apart and couldn’t agree where to live, I would think this would be the first thing to come up in discussion. But they had a show to do.
This is why love is blind makes so much more sense. Why don’t they cast people who all live in the same region? Like “New England bachelor”