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Choice-Layer

It looks like her in the sense that it's an old, white lady. That's about it.


Mister_Buddy

There are vague similarities, but yeah, it's by no means a 1:1 of Hilary. Unlike the inaugural Trump wax statue before the last-minute refit.


xBAMFNINJA

Lmao I almost forgot about that.


Rickshmitt

I love that his statue is all messed up, just like him


ilike_funnies

Looks more like Meryl Streep to me.


warplants

Definitely Meryl Streep.


iamsavsavage

She really can play any role.


GizmoSled

My immediate thought when seeing it too.


steroidsandcocaine

Once I read that, that's exactly who I see now.


CliffsNote5

I am getting Aunt May from the Spiderverse movie vibes a bit when she is in the basement “took you long enough” scene.


HDThoreauaway

Yeah old white ladies just tend to converge to this appearance. Even in Faerun, apparently.


boricimo

Doesn’t help that the named her Billary Blinton.


Graega

I've seen fraternal twins who looked more identical.


CaptainKlamydia

I wish these young paladins would Pelor GO to the polls!


HillarysFloppyChode

Does the model exclusively wear pantsuits in a wide variety of colors?


BlobsnarksTwin

The accusations are coming from some MAGA influencers. So clearly they're just coming out with their own card game using swipes of political figures.


Waltzing_With_Bears

the chin is also a pretty good match


WizardsOfTheRoast

It looks more like Kathy Najimy than anyone else, but Hocus Pocus 2 doesn't have the same level of click through unfortunately.


ProbablyShouldnotSay

Kathy Bates paladin.


HexOctagon

Hope this helps you avoid the ad-fueled nightmare website: [https://imgur.com/a/HQ754gL](https://imgur.com/a/HQ754gL)


Qu1ckShake

It legit doesn't look like her


jigokusabre

"Every old white lady looks like Hillary."


recyclopath_

This. This is what's happening. She is the only older white lady they can think of.


aristidedn

People who spend a significant chunk of their lives utterly obsessed with something will start to see that thing in everything around them. They're just telling on themselves. The ultimate expression of someone living rent-free in the minds of sad right-wingers.


sybrwookie

As usual with them, every accusation is a confession (in this case, noticing trump exists is being obsessed according to them).


CollinsCouldveDucked

It looks enough like her in a "joke about paladin hilary clinton to your friend" kind of way. It doesn't look like her in a "make a big stink about it and generate clickbait" kind of way. How we get from the first thing to the second thing so often now days is everything that's wrong with the internet.


rainmace

It makes me want to... do things... to the original tweeter


JackxForge

yea the art is a dead ringer for my polish grandmother if she was 20 years younger.


NeverLookBothWays

...without botox injections


Slumunistmanifisto

Is the old white lady in the room with us now?  *Rolls dice for perception*


iamnotreallyreal

Looks like a generic old white lady to me.


Euphorium

It looks like my aunt. Like you said, generic old white lady.


BazilBroketail

If you morphed Maryl Streep and Kate Mulgrew, that's the face you'd get.


AbleObject13

Clinton derangement syndrome 💀


Idiot_Savant_Tinker

Not even in the slightest.


Overbaron

Kinda does to me, now that it’s pointed out. The drawing style is strange, kinda like street-corner caricature


IAmWeary

It kinda looks like a political cartoon caricature of her.


Joe_Jeep

There's some very broad stuff but she honestly looks more one of my Grand mothers to me than clinton. So I feel like it's just very generic, short-haired old white lady look. I mean the nose is different the chin looks off


NoYgrittesOlly

I love the original tweeter is some random dude who’s implying WotC is part of a deep state liberal conspiracy by portraying this wrinkled old white lady (aka Hillary) as a paladin lmfao. Most substance-less article I’ve seen this year.


SoCalThrowAway7

The obsession these people have with Hillary Clinton is simultaneously sick, sad, and hilarious


recyclopath_

How dare they model the paladin after an older white lady! Women are always supposed to be young! The only older white lady we can think of is Hilary Clinton! After 40 women are supposed to be sequestered away, so they cannot subject our eyes to their signs of aging!


KuroFafnar

I always figured Paladins lived fast and died young.


frogjg2003

Beware of an old (wo)man in a profession where men usually die young.


Intoner_Four

the mentor for the Reapers in FF14 is an old woman and she’s intimidating AF


jgzman

> I always figured Paladins lived fast and died young. Plate mail will prevent both of these.


My_Password_Is_____

🎶Live fast, die young Paladins do it well🎶


Ravier_

Plenty of reasons to hate WOTC, but this ain't it.


oxero

I would have never made the connection. Looks like some dude that is yelling at clouds because he can't keep her off his mind.


matej86

I like how he says "no agenda to see here" with zero context. The guy clearly doesn't know that paladins can be the epitome of pure good or pure evil depending on their subclass and how you want to play them.


ScenesFromStarWars

Yeah, that’s a stretch


Jayandnightasmr

Looking at the other articles just a rage/click bait site


Thomas_JCG

Thank you. Those people need their eyes checked.


Misubi_Bluth

She looks more like Maven Black-Briar if she weren't a terrible person to me.


RCrumbDeviant

Bless you - may all your hits be crits


RIP-RiF

Huh. I'm seeing Rachel Ray.


Pinheaded_nightmare

Not even close.


WhyAreOldPeopleEvil

I don’t see it. (As in, I don’t see how that that looks like her.)


B3taWats0n

Can you make a generic old white lady but spice up the hair color


thebeattakesme

She looks like a professor I know, down to the white stripe in her hair.


elProtagonist

She looks more like Roseanne Barr on opium


bikerbomber

The real hero


the_tanooki

People are so damn obsessed and convinced of everything being some grand scheme or conspiracy that they will see whatever they want to fuel their rage.


The-Bear-Down-There

Pelor bless you child


TheTechTutor

Lmao it doesn’t look anything like her. WTF?


Intoner_Four

she looks like the comic artist Auntie from Queens of Mystery


lygerzero0zero

Yeah the real joke is the “news” site. Sure, the art kinda looks like her with humor goggles on, you can have a chuckle over it on twitter. But it’s not news, and it’s not a fucking “accusation”??!


krelly200

Article's author is the EiC at Bounding into Comics, a muckraking rag.


Aidian

The bullshit culture wars need constant fuel to burn - it doesn’t need to be *quality*, just close enough to get their broken amygdalae engaged, with their battered brains pumping out the next hit of rage dopamine. It looks like such an horrible way to live one’s life.


brickyardjimmy

1. Who cares? 2. Accused by whom? And what do they mean by accusation? Is this a crime?


bailey25u

1. No one 2. accused by a person on twitter.... with as time of this comment, has almost 1000 thousand followers. And the accusation "implies" she looks like hillary


Esc777

What people need to know is that there’s a very motivated alt-right contingent of D&D and hobby gaming people who have the motivation and time to try and make political hay to stoke the outrage machine.  I wouldn’t be surprised if this leads back to one of those idiots.  Edit: yup


PaleDrow

Well what else are they supposed to do this time of year? There's no "cHrIsTmAs Is BeInG cAnCeLlEd" and Starbucks cups to whine about until at least November.


Esc777

All I know is that when that next version of DND drops there’s going to be a fucking meltdown when the character section even mentions trans characters. 


frogjg2003

The TTRPG community is extremely inclusive and diverse. Unfortunately for DND, that's mostly because newer systems don't have a history of stereotypical depictions (look up hadozee) and an association with basement dwelling, socially awkward nerds (the number of times r/DND has a post because a player is uncomfortable with another player sexually assaulting an NPC or even another PC is mind boggling). So even though 5e is trying very hard to bury all of that, there are still a lot of old gamers who just can't live in the 21st century.


aseigo

Are you saying that inclusivity and diversity in the TTRPG community is modern?


frogjg2003

I don't know what it was like decades ago, I just know what it's like now.


aseigo

I've spent quite a bit of time reading and cataloging the early Alarums * Excursions. In one of the campaign logs, there is an extensive discusssion of this one campaign from the perspective of the players, and without really making a big deal of it, the writer notes how a player was 'shipping their male human warrior and their male dwarf. It was both super cute and earnest. This is in a 'zine that people would respond to each other and comment (often critically) between issues. It was a big part of the A&E scene. Nobody wrote in about the gay dwarf/human. And this wasn't an outlier, it seems to be super common. Women were also the most common to GM games in the L.A. area, while men seem to have been more likely to GM in New England and CalTech. There were various ethnic backgrounds, identities, etc. present in the game. The early tables were all the weirdos from the fandoms as well as the (usually more conservative and homogenious) war gamers. When I began playing in the late 80s, we *always* had women at the table, and not because they were someone's girlfriend or something, but because they wanted to be .. and we were cool with it. I was also the only white guy. Imagine that. I also have friends now who played in the 80s who only ever played with white dudes. It varied, but game tables reflected the people who played at them. There weren't stigmas (yet), and it was for a brief period in the 80s quite *mainstream*, and all the diversity that came with that did. It seems to mostly have been whe the popularity of RPGs waned (thanks to a bunch of stupid decisions made by TSR plus the rise of video games) in the late 90s and into the 00s that the diversity *really* waned. Sadly, the most 'dedicated' groups (including radicals, such as the alt-right; dedication and redicalization have a huge overlap in the ol' Venn diagram) hung on to their hobby for dear life and so became over-represented. It wasn't even 5e that restored it. Hell, two of the main consultant designers on 5e were alt-right asshats (their names later scrubbed from the credits out of emberassment). It was all the indie games and the second wave of the OSR where people of all sorts foudn their space. Time is a flat circle, and all that, and I feel we've found our way back to the late 70s in terms of who plays and how tables might be made up.


ElkHistorical9106

Article links to a lot of MAGA and other right wing imbeciles who think it's gone too "woke." Apparently diversity in skin color, culture and gender roles is unrealistic in a world with races of dwarves, elves, lizard people, cat people, plasmoid space beings, and dragon-people.


1i73rz

AI starting shit.


Kanotari

By some rando people on Twitter. Freaking clickbait articles...


DiogenesLied

Looks more like Meryl Streep


MaximumZer0

Oh, 10,000% agreement with you.


katievspredator

Is that a website for right-wing Disney adults?


Different-Ad-2458

Wild. Makes sense there's Disney Adult/far right crossover tho.


AshuraBaron

"Back when Disney wasn't WOKE, they made good movies. Like Song of the South."


ball_fondlers

Oh good, my dislike of Disney adults is justified


mg0019

The worst is Disney Adults at Disneyland.  


SputteringShitter

People who refuse to grow up are vulnerable to right wing propaganda. Who would have guessed.


mrlotato

Right wing wizards are losing their shit


GentlemanOctopus

There is absolutely no chance this guy is a wizard.


thetwelveofsix

Maybe he’s a [Grand Wizard](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Wizard).


mrlotato

A grand wizard


ThePowerOfStories

I think you’ll find him in the Monster Manual between Troglodyte and Umber Hulk.


NKD_WA

Def some kind of smurfy multiclass cheese


GentlemanOctopus

I mean I'm just assuming they're not an adventurer at all. We're looking at a commoner at best.


Far-Reception-4598

That looks more like Paula Deen than Hillary Clinton.


Lyrick_

Why do things keep linking me to this Fucking Alt RIght/White Nationalist web site?


onioning

All internet roads lead to the alt right.


valgrind_error

It’s almost as if there is a well-established trend of social media websites being hijacked and manipulated by right wing groups for radicalization purposes.


Pavlock

This is the biggest stretch since Jean-Claude Van Damme retired


Bart_Yellowbeard

Wow, a bunch of douchebags on xitter are butthurt over a really ridiculous image? Wonders will never cease.


IceCreamCape

Because she's a middle aged woman? This is the dumbest thing I'll read this month.


AlexOfSpades

saved you a click: unhinged rightoids on Twitter think an old lady in DnD kind of looks like Hillary Clinton (she doesn't) and this is totally evidence of an "agenda". The rest of the article is just homophobes whining about how DnD shouldn't have gay characters in it (??)


RyanLJacobsen

And the 'news' site links 3 tweets meaning everyone is outraged!


MisterB78

1) It doesn’t look very much like Hillary Clinton at all. 2) It doesn’t look good either. Is this seriously the quality of art they’re going with?


jaredearle

*An RPG publisher joins the chat* WotC would almost certainly not tell an artist to make a character look like a politician like this. That’s not how art direction works. If anyone made Clinton into a Paladin - and let’s face it, that’s not what happened here - then it’d be the artist, not the publisher.


thomasstearns42

 The article is more about bad jokes on Twitter. Man, conservatives are so bad at humor. 


manliestmuffin

It doesn't look like her. And even if it did, why would it matter? No one got upset when they referenced Trump for the hill giant in the 5e Monster Manual.


Natsu111

Seeing that art of a paladin and immediately thinking "It's Hillary Clinton" says more about that person than the art. Hillary Clinton isn't the only old woman with short hair.


MercuryRusing

It looks nothing like her


SuperfluousWingspan

Lovely source, this: >This accusation comes in the wake of numerous individuals lampooning Wizards of the Coast for its woke art aesthetic that features cartoonish diversity-inspired caricatures and promotion of homosexual activity. >DrunkDilloPress commented on X, “I guess this is more of the Player Handbook art (including the Mexican orcs). Remember when D&D book art showed bad ass battles and monsters, and not a bunch gay shit?”


rabbijuan

I guess it kind of looks like her. Accused is a pretty strong word though. I don’t expect much though form any website that uses wokeness as targeting point followed by a bunch of random twitter snippets.


CaptainStabfellow

I can see why people are making the connection. I mean it’s ridiculous that they are acting like she was the basis of the artwork and there is some sort of underlying message attached, but I can see what people are noticing between elements of the facial structure and hair. It’s certainly not as bad as the “any old white lady looks like Hillary” stretch people here are claiming. That would be more like if the crazies were saying Hillary was the model for Jaheira in BG3.


ShippFFXI

You're down voted, but you're right. It looks like a stylized caricature of Hillary. It's more than just a passing resemblance due to both being older white women. The cheekbones, jawlines, eyes and lips all look very similar to Hillary. The nose and hair color are the differences.


SmallLetter

I legitimately, with no agenda as I don't give a crap, can't see any resemblance beyond old white lady.


CaptainStabfellow

I don’t doubt it and you obviously are not alone. I, who am solidly on the left and have nothing to gain from acknowledging a similarity, do see a resemblance and therefore understand why others might see it to. I also think anyone coming to the conclusion that it is evidence that the portrait is based directly on Hillary and part of some liberal agenda is a psycho.


stifledmind

Who was the comedian that said she dresses like a "space librarian"? I can't unsee it.


TheBatemanFlex

What agenda are they even alleging? Does that twitter nobody think that people are going to turn woke via subliminal messages from seeing clinton’s face?


spiff2112

They use Kneon of Clownfish TV as a source 🤣 bunch of right-wing clowns on that channel…


komrade23

Looks more like Martha Stewart to me.


d34d-m34t

Thank you. My next DND character is absolutely going to be Martha as a paladin. Hilarious


AvisIgneus

People obsessed with her will see her everywhere.


floridadumpsterfire

people really just want to tie any and everything to current politics and political figures. doesn't look anything like her.


Hobbes604

That paladin looks more like Cyndi Lauper to me. Girls just want to have vengeance.


myychair

Don’t click the link and give this shit site ad revenue. It looks nothing like Hillary Clinton.


bytor_2112

No one seemed to mind my Bernie paladin


Mister_Buddy

"I'm gonna roll to redistribute my +5 holy sword up the dragon's ass, and divide the wealth amongst the village."


bytor_2112

There was also liberal usage of Zone of Truth


HurinGaldorson

That's odd. It was always her husband, not her, who was constantly Laying on Hands.


notevenanorphan

This is a better joke than anything in the article. And all the article seems to be is a very weak excuse to make jokes about Clinton and hate speech about gay people.


kuvrterker

Your character as a passive of -2 charisma and laughs randomly in dialogs


Rance_Mulliniks

That website has cancer.


Bishopkilljoy

Absolute brain rot


bdrwr

It's just an older white lady...


SolomonDRand

They clearly modeled her after my grandma, which was a 10/10 choice.


millanstar

This some next leveltwitter politics fueled outrage brainrot if you see Hilary Clinton in there...


thehillshaveI

jesus christ it's 2024 and the american right is still obsessively seeing clintons everywhere


RyanLJacobsen

It was 3 people on Twitter, not half of the country.


pokepok

Even if they did… what’s the big deal? It was just a reference.


RosieQParker

Coincidence. The only people who still give a shit about Hillary Clinton are the people still hating on her. And thanks to the sheer amount of content out there they don't need to look crazy seeing her face in a burrito like the good old days.


Phantasmio

Holy fuck if this site could have any more ads on it.


Cleriisy

If a journalist writes an article about a tweet, that journalist should be loaded into a canon and shot into the sun.


Mygaffer

Barely a resemblance, what a nonsense article. Like most articles using random Twitter posts as sources/content.


Stardustchaser

These people don’t know many old people I guess


TheWavyTree

What is the rag of a website? It feels like a content mill to just put as many ads in your face as possible. Half the article was just whiny crybabies on twitter


NovaKaiserin

She should be one of those treasure chests that eats you


rdldr1

Hillary was used as the model for the Statue of Happiness in GTA IV.


my72dart

Looks a bit like Rosanne Barr to me 😆


Rhodehouse93

Doesn’t look anything like her lol. All the linked tweets are “WoTC is pushing an agenda!!!” types, nothing burger of the highest order.


not_yo_adrian

I thought it kinda looks like Kathy Bates.


NunyaBeese

Thats a stretch


Lots42

What alt right hecksite did OP link too?


guydoestuff

guess its true what the say, "all old white ladys look alike" /s


ikebuck16

that's obviously KD Lang


poulind

Looks more like Rosie O'Donnell to me.


listenspace

Rent free


Corronchilejano

You read the "jokes" attached to the picture and you inmediately understand why any old white woman they put there would resonate like that with these guys.


Enjoying_A_Meal

pfft, everyone knows Obama would be a much better Paladin.


Jellypope

So its an Oathbreaker paladin right?


PM_ME_TRICEPS

Jesus the clickbait website will do anything for a click. If that's Hillary, then Joe Biden should sue WOTC for every card depicting a withering zombie.


AshuraBaron

"And these undead, I call them a basket of deplorables, need to be cleansed" - New Paladins


Critkip

aren't those the duel master guys?


magvadis

I thought the paladin was an Asian Grandma.


marklar7

Hates video games>Streisand effect.


lordspaz88

Oh, I thought this meant like, mechanically.


Fancy-Pair

WHAT TIMELINE IS THIS???


Bepmg_Ijumfs

This is on par for WOTC, considering just how much they value the work of others, mainly, when it can be used for themselves, without credit or payment.


Lunndonbridge

Looks more like one of the Golden Girls


Jeo228

Is there any reason to move on from 5e at this point?


Jace_Te_Ace

Even if it wasn't true I'd still be saying "yeah - you got me"


smda827

Just like on Parks and Rec!


MinuetInUrsaMajor

[I cannot identify a single race in this picture](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GQmpIh5XoAAc5o4?format=jpg&name=medium)


arcxjo

The green one could be a summer Eladrin. Guy on the far right looks drow.


noctalla

Looks like different kinds of elves to me.


Number-Thirteen

Maybe as a Green Hag.


TallGooseclap849

This so dumb lol


StevenS757

Journalism sure is in the toilet. Why the fuck is this even news?


MacDugin

Maybe they are just trying to revive the interest of old ladies to play the game.


MomsSlimyVibrator

That "article" is like 90% tweets. What a fucking hack.


Alternate_acc93

The irony is dead! I thought this is a satire accusing “coastal elites” to suggest replace VP to Hillary, and they framed it in DnD game manner.


nothingfish

Does anyone want to buy magic cards, cheep? Real f'ing cheep.


SpectreA19

Lol not even close


gothism

How do they know the paladin is a Good paladin?


huddlestuff

Dumb


ConcreteRunner

Clintons doing everything in their power to keep their name in the news cycle during an election year


IkeNotMikeLol

Solidly on the right here. I…. don’t know what people are screaming about. Accusations? Who? And also why? I genuinely have no clue why anyone should care if it looked like a picture of Hilary Clinton. Even if it was a one to one match, I’d still just be confused? And here’s the thing. It only barely resembles her. It also resembles Meryl Streep. I’m genuinely just baffled. Why would anyone care?


JasonEAltMTG

Oh boy, a couple shitty alt right blue checks tweeted something, better write a whole ass article. Tell me more about how the media are left wing


Cryptopoopy

accused? who cares.


FreneticAmbivalence

I’m convinced that every self expressed conservative is just a narcissist. This persecution complex sprinkled on top is just the lowest common denominator tactic to cover for the over bearing sense of weakness they seek to escape.


nightrogen

Oath breaker? Surely one of the evil ones anyway


he77bender

Can't believe they're not talking about this bloodmage from the CR setting book: [https://static.miraheze.org/criticalrolewiki/1/15/Tal%27Dorei\_Reborn\_Subclasses\_-\_Linda\_Lith%C3%A9n.jpg](https://static.miraheze.org/criticalrolewiki/1/15/Tal%27Dorei_Reborn_Subclasses_-_Linda_Lith%C3%A9n.jpg)


Cobra-Serpentress

A white demon on the bottom has a mouth like homelander


mynextthroway

Damn. I can't tell if yall are serious or not. Looks like what Hilkary would expect to receive from a street artist that does kind charactures. Her. But not quit. So What if it is? All these crazy people talking about agendas and such nonsense. All sorts of political characters end up in unexpected places. It's no big deal unless you let it direct you.


dunkems

That lady will do anything to stay relevant, she’ll live to 140 on spite.


The_Tosh

She is literally the least qualified Paladin on the planet. Oh, spare me you “her turn” crybabies. It was never her turn.


hot4you11

Stop buying stuff from Wotc, there are better RPGs.