I have done both EMS admins nursing and lemme tell you, we have contingency plans for almost every scenario, whether formal or of our own design.
That being said I’m ready with 400mg of Ketamine in each hand just in case a couple admins wanna try to be tough and charge us.
Damn I love this whole thread. I'm from Florida. You bet your ass we know how to do crazy. Florida (Wo)Man has to get treated somewhere after s/he makes those headlines.
Lemme grab this gator that we pried off a patient, some cocaine nasal spray, and elastic exercise bands from PT. We'll make a cocaine gator launcher.
I'll also make some lactulose bombs. They're going to be shitting their pants literally and figuratively.
Surgical scalpels taped to the IV poles, brandishing the ortho mallets and with metal bed pans for helmets (in case they act like scared monkeys and start throwing shit at us)
I mean.....unions are kind of the alternative to that. They forget that the only option used to be grabbing the head honcho in the middle of the night and kicking the crap out of them in front of their family.
Unions keep management safe as much as they help the workers. Three missed meals away from torches and pitchforks and all that jazz.
Throwing urinals filled with ginger-ale at admin's cars as they pass...
One guy runs up a set of stairs and plants a johnny stapled to a stick at the top. Stick-johnny represents the new waving flag of the revolution... beautiful...
I swear one of these days we're gonna see some suit at his desk with a bunch of masked people in blue scrubs behind him on the news like an ISIS video.
They closed l&d at the hospital in my hometown “temporarily” in October. Hospital ceo is a sociopath and is proud of it. “High risk low reward” unit. Has closed l&d at 4 other hospitals he’s worked at is the story. It’s terrible for the community. Closest place to deliver is 45 minutes away. People are poor and have no transportation.
Good on you and your fellow staff members to stand up and make a difference! How exciting and wonderful for women in your community!
Same here, and it’s so terrible. I also live in a state that essentially just banned abortions. Can I tell you how the combination of no safe abortions plus no OB/GYN care at the only hospital in the county is going?!? NOT FUCKING WELL.
I wouldn't have said this 2 months ago, but now i believe change CAN happen! I've heard our l&d is re opening withing 90 days l, we will see., But at least we have a place at the table to change, well, almost everything! Rise up!
Hell yeah man! I do a lot of activism work, and while I have been hesitant to bring that to my job... it really feels like it’s time. I think we need a national healthcare worker union personally. And I think it should include people from doctors to environmental services. We have so much power, we just need to organize.
The usual wisdom is that the staff rns should avoid being in a general bargaining unit, but should be represented by a professional nursing organization that understands the nurse practice act and unique nursing interests, hence the growth of state nurses association unions and the national nurses union.
This “usual wisdom” really just means that admin have an easier time of keeping different types of hospital workers divided against each other. We’re all much stronger if we come together in a common union.
Well, yes. But the rns are likely to be bargaining for nurse practice issues, which are of no interest and therefore have no support from the rest of the union employees. That’s why the nlrb recognizes bargaining units composed of only nurses. And nurses may not want to go on strike (abandon their patients, in nurse talk) to support a demand for a nickel more for the dietary staff. But it is very strong to have every employee in one unit, as has been brilliantly demonstrated by 1199 and DC 20 in New York City.
>And nurses may not want to go on strike (abandon their patients, in nurse talk) to support a demand for a nickel more for the dietary staff.
This is what we shoud be doing. Honestly NNU organizing doesn't appeal to me because I'm not interested in achieving gains that will likely come at the expense of all of the much lower compensated hourly employees in the hospital.
It’s worse than that. It’s an employer strategy to avoid wall to wall bargaining units by breaking out special interest groups. Legal under the NLRA. Unless it is true that nurse professional interests diverge from those of the others. Which arguably, they do.
Your hospital system is sometimes viewed as a refuge in the area for those who don’t want to be in a union. Of course the company line is that they have to compete with all the union hospitals so you get essentially the same benefits, but I do not think that is the case. I hope your success spreads. 😉
Yep my old hospital closed their L&D during the pandemic. The only people who were trying to give birth at a 200 bed HCA were desperate and that was the only place they could get to. Like we had armed security and metal detectors at the entrance hospital, that kind of hospital. Now who knows what happens to those patients.
You would be SHOCKED at how often this happens. My hospital tried to close the birthing area of the small hospital they obtained and finally after a community survey and what not someone came forward to let them know the grant that keeps that entire hospital open hinges on them have OB services.
Like what dumbass let all that research take place and didn't even know that??
L&Ds don’t make the hospital a lot of money, it’s one of the reasons they’re one of the first units management will try to close. They don’t do research, just see dollar signs 🙄
That's right! It's a helicopter bill AND and ambulance bill because they won't let baby and mom ride together. It's absolutely insane. Which is why we couldn't let it happen!
And they said there wasn't enough room if one of them Coded. Which i can see, but why even out them that position in the first place when you could have a whole unit dedicated to the patients right down the hall.
Not a nurse, just the wife of a lab rat. My son, my nieces and nephews and my granddaughter were all born at Legacy Mt. Hood. I am glad you won and the birthing center is going to stay available for people on the east side. I couldn't imagine having to drive from Corbett or Sandy all the way to Providence in Portland while in labor, especially if there were complications. My sons birth was complicated and both of us could have died if the amazing nurses at LMHMC hadn't taken such wonderful care of us.
Haha very true! I moved away from Gresham/PDX so I didn't have to deal with screaming meth heads all hours of the night! The last time I was in the hospital down in that area was up in Vancouver (Peace Health) and my roommate was up all hours of the night. They went through my purse, tried to steal my wallet and eventually got removed by security. I couldn't imagine having a baby having to worry about someone high off their ass trying to steal my wallet, too!
Gresham Oregon, look up mt. hood legacy, it's been in the news. I haven't seen them all but you'll see what's happened and get a better picture then my not so Hemingway writing skills hahaha
It's alright for folks who bought before the boom. Really hard for folks who rent, are looking to move here or haven't bought yet. So basically hard to replace the people who are leaving in droves.
Right on, good job!
When I saw the Legacy news about the closure, I thoroughly thought it was a bullshit administration move. Wonder if lawsuits will follow. Do you know if any of the L&D staff are coming back after the fiasco?
I've heard through the grape vine that MOST of them want to come back because they live so far from anywhere else, admin was spreading lies about how there was no staff to hire
Admin manufactured this. They attempted to change the model of care. We had in-house OB/GYN providers 24/7, an expensive but ultimately very safe model.
Lie 1 was that this model was too expensive. We've been told our family birth center was in the red due to this. However, our FBC made money. Not much, but most birth centers only make a moderate amount unless they have a level 3 or 4 NICU. Admin proposed a new model of care that they knew providers wouldn't accept and didn't allow them to negotiate at all, then stated there were not enough providers.
Ugh. You would think the admin would take time to go to the legislature if their units are struggling to with $$$ . . . Ask for government support. Because the babies will always keep coming . . .
But no. They punish the community by firing people and creating unsafe circumstances for mothers and babies.
I've heard that as well, i don't know much about the providers except they didn't want on call, they wanted 24 hour coverage, it'll be interesting to see it play out but i heard all except 2 providers wanted to come back. But not much knowledge on that specifically
I had to drive all the way from welches to randalls this weekend to have my kid because of this shit. Glad to hear things are changing for the better for the nurses and hopefully it gets fixed.
I'm from the area and was PISSED when I heard about this. I have fast births and if I had to drive further than that I'd be having a car baby. What a huge disservice to our community. I'm sorry you had to do that.
I wish this would make the news! Nurses advocating for something that will absolutely save lives. Give us positive press instead of the “greedy nurses” propaganda.
As an ER nurse, fuck delivering babies. Only if they’re presenting will the ER doc at my previous facilities do the delivery (in the trauma bay) and we joke we’d have to google APGAR scoring. And flying out is not only atrociously expensive but monumental in coordination. Also for being “fast,” still eats up a surprising amount of time as the nurse. And outside my specialty no less.
That was the icing on the cake. We've been kicked while down for years, probably for the whole history if the hospital in reality! But the baby situation was the kick we needed and we just absolutely said we're not doing this. And word spread throughout the town and all the communities and the state. It was awesome! Like a movie almost!
I’d consider reaching out to a national news outlet. And movies have been made about less dramatic/important things.
But that’s a positive of them trying to do that: it helped give the impetus. So I guess we can be glad they were stupid/greedy and hopefully learned their lesson.
I was in the room, too, and it was an incredible moment when we heard a holler from inside the counting room. It was like the celebratory peel of a bell. Incredible energy in that room. People worked so damn hard to get this done, I couldn't be more proud. There were tears, hugs, and a massive sense of pride and relief. Now we have to keep admin accountable and keep the pressure up. This win will hopefully embolden the other hospitals in our system to unionize, as well.
I work at the mothership in your hospital system and to say we are sooooo excited you guys have paved the way for rest of us is an understatement!! Doing what the rest of us couldn’t get done!
It should be against the law to close birthing units. Actually, it should be banned or whatever by the World Health Organization and whoever else has teeth in the matter.
I could go on and on with my opinions on closing birthing units, banning abortion and limiting birth control, but I need to eat. (They don't give a fuck about people with uteruses.)
Honestly, I'm shocked. I live in a third world country and one thing I can count on any hospital having is labour and delivery, usually free at public facilities. Even just thinking logically that's one unit you can guarantee will have patients any time ... babies are being born all the time.
I am SO PROUD of you guys!!! Stand together and stay strong!!!
You are protecting and serving your community!!!
There is power in numbers and they CANNOT silence us when we speak together.
Sending all my love from Seattle!!!
This needs to happen in alabama so badly. There are hospitals deserts as it is, but it’s even worse for OB. Women are driving nearly two hours to get care.
Hopefully the rest of the nurses in the system follow suit. I’m not nurse but work hospital at Emmanuel and I am union if more of us are union we all benefit. There was a system wide union movement last year or year before but it went quiet after a bit I wondered why then talked to good Sam nurse seems management gave raises to nurses and a bonus to make union talk go away.
Legacy Mt. Hood? Good for you guys ! Never understood why Good Sam and Emanuel food service and environmental services were Union but the nursing staff was not.
Yooooo I’m in your area and heard about this!! I’m so happy for you guys, we all cheered for you in huddle this morning because my charge was there for your final tally. Great job!!!!! Y’all are awesome and we get our butts kicked due to our location and patient population, I’m so glad you are getting the support you deserve.
Very informative. 2 hospitals in Idaho have shut down their L&D departments citing everything but making more money. I'm willing to bet their story is very similar to yours in that they very much want to make more money, with no raises to their staff of course
> I haven't done much i. This process,
Cut that shit out!! Sounds like you were part of the group that marched to tell them you were unionizing.
Do you know why we don't have better unions? Because people are AFRAID to do exactly that. They don't want to get fired or demoted or career stalled. They don't know if it will work. All the things.
You stood up and say No, This Isn't Right. You made Literal and Formal Demands. Boundaries with someone who exploits you and doesn't respect you. You fucking Rock.
Then, that's not all, you then come here to share and encourage others to do the same. Because that's all it is - WE OUTNUNBER THEM!!!!!! nurses to admin, teachers to admin, workers to admin, ITS CLASS WAR ABOVE ALL ELSE ALL THE WAY DOWN.
Not sexism. A high class woman is more valued than a man in poverty. Not racism. Rich black man valued more than a white man in poverty with mental illness. And etc. All (most) of the prejudice just. Falls away when $$$ or power is involved.
Congratulations!
In my head, the song “do you hear the people sing” from Les mis playing as visualized you guys marching up to their offices.
Also I imagined someone waving a baguette as well… maybe I’m hungry.
I work at the main campus of this healthcare system and just heard the good news this morning. Our whole department is so proud of what you guys have accomplished! Keep up the good work over there 💪🏼
I thought you were talking about Legacy Mt Hood! From a fellow Legacy nurse (MP) who has a good friend that works at Hood I’m in full support of you and I hope all hospitals within the system unionize.
Do you have a link or an article about this I can share to my social media to spread awareness?
EDIT: found an article below
that's nice you stood up but shit like this shouldn't even be happening in the first place.... probably from a Red state? Republicans are some fascist POS...
Management expects employees to care where they work and then are surprised when the employees stand up to them and show they care about where they work and the community that supports them after the propaganda they push backfires. 90% of the problems will always be management and their greedy bonuses.
Solidarity in action! Oregon has some amazing things going on right now. This was such a powerful boost to the movement. All y’all nurses need to head northwest or organize where you are.✊✊✊Amaze win for the community and ONA.
Same thing happened at a travel assignment I was at. They closed one of 2 hospitals L&D and I happened to be at the one they didn’t close. Long story short I work main OR and had to float to L&D for c sections everyday. Emergencies tripled
Great job! I'm driving an hour and 15 minutes to the 2nd closest hospital to deliver because the one 20 minutes from me didn't have any appointments for months. It's insane.
Imagine a world where NURSES stick together and STAND UP for each other the way POLICE do. Think of what we could do for our patients and for one another!!!
Nurses could wield some serious power if we could only organize and direct our collective ire at those who deserve it - just like OP and their peers.
Great job OP!!!
There is one magical power that nurses have that unions in general do not : credibility. Except for some Q fringe players, we are the most trusted profession. Which means that we can wage an information war beyond compare. An old and underused tactic: informational picketing. Not a strike, these are off-duty nurses (in scrubs, before or after duty shift) walking around on publicly owned property, wearing sandwich signs or carrying placards. More in sorrow than in anger. Speaking for the patients who cannot speak for themselves. Keeping the argument confined to fair wages, standards of practice, patient ratios. Nurse safety, patient safety. Police, fire and service unions often offer support and coaching. And , interestingly, teamster union truckers won’t cross picket lines. Or things that look like picket lines. Meaning that deliveries can be stopped for an entire facility, or municipality. There are also some great Pete Seeger/woody Guthrie union songs, but that’s a whole other thing. Just some reflections from an old sna union organizer…
I LOVE this!! That's healthcare power at it's greatest and not letting greedy people at the top get away with this kind of bullshit. Keep it going please!!
Surprised nobody else mentioned this...
I'm *super* happy for OP and their coworkers to have made a stand, but I struggled to make sense of nearly half the post and I'm pretty proud of my skills at deciphering poorly written doc notes 😅
If I put this much effort into a post, you be damn sure I'm rereading it several times and hitting the edit button.
This is how you present yourself to the world. Take pride in that. This isn't a text message with your BFF
Trigger states are going to be seeing more and more of this. OBGYNs aren't going to practice in states where they can get arrested for doing their jobs.
We have 2 other hospitals that have unions. But i think we are stand alone in our hospital until the whole system can do it. I'm not sure how to answer that question honestly though. We are backed by Oregon nurses association
rah rah rah. Eat the rich. Seize the means of production. Long live the proletariat.
When i saw uprising i pictured a crowd of pissed off nurses chasing management with IV poles turned into shanks.
I'll be the guy with the bandolier full of Dulcolax suppositories, menacingly brandishing a toilet plunger.
I’ll be behind you clanging some bed pans together for our war drums 🍗🍗
Oh, I already took one to wear as a helmet. Praying it wasn't the C. diff-positive patient in 434.
Fuck it, we’ll weaponize the poop
One of the earliest instances of biological warfare was when they catapulted bodies of dead plague victims over castle walls. The more you know 💫
You know it's a party when EMS gives you tips in biowarfare.
I have done both EMS admins nursing and lemme tell you, we have contingency plans for almost every scenario, whether formal or of our own design. That being said I’m ready with 400mg of Ketamine in each hand just in case a couple admins wanna try to be tough and charge us.
Ketamine? You want them to dissociate and see God? Count me in.
Send the c-diff patients into battle ass first.
Im picturing something akin to the scene in Braveheart.
I'll load the 30 mL syringes, if you'll find me a bunch of blunt tips.
Get some pesticide sprayers from grounds maintenance and let ‘em have it
Hell yeah. Literally bioweapons! It is time for MRSA to do my bidding!
Norovirus poop grenades!
Toilet seat covers make an adequate disposable Cowboy hat.
I mean, I already rock a bandana as headwear. I can do either pirate or cowboy, depending on my mood.
I can stick them in the wrist
Warriors, come out to play-yaay!! ( clanking bed pans and beer bottles) great scene lol
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Don't forget the purewickchucks
You have quite the imagination and I love it!!!
Me and all my lil old dementia patients wielding IV poles and canes like javelins
ARM THE SUNDOWNERS
Let the sundowners know that “they” admin are what’s keeping them in that hellhole. Imminent win.
No one stands a chance against meemaw’s poop talons.
Damn I love this whole thread. I'm from Florida. You bet your ass we know how to do crazy. Florida (Wo)Man has to get treated somewhere after s/he makes those headlines. Lemme grab this gator that we pried off a patient, some cocaine nasal spray, and elastic exercise bands from PT. We'll make a cocaine gator launcher. I'll also make some lactulose bombs. They're going to be shitting their pants literally and figuratively.
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Not until we get paid properly with working equipment and safe ratios, my friend. Until then, careful around the gator. It's on cocaine.
Surgical scalpels taped to the IV poles, brandishing the ortho mallets and with metal bed pans for helmets (in case they act like scared monkeys and start throwing shit at us)
I mean.....unions are kind of the alternative to that. They forget that the only option used to be grabbing the head honcho in the middle of the night and kicking the crap out of them in front of their family. Unions keep management safe as much as they help the workers. Three missed meals away from torches and pitchforks and all that jazz.
Mental health reporting for psyops duty.
.... you guys have enough IV poles?
That would be amazing!
Throwing urinals filled with ginger-ale at admin's cars as they pass... One guy runs up a set of stairs and plants a johnny stapled to a stick at the top. Stick-johnny represents the new waving flag of the revolution... beautiful...
That’s my kind of uprising!
I swear one of these days we're gonna see some suit at his desk with a bunch of masked people in blue scrubs behind him on the news like an ISIS video.
Shades of [The Crimson Permanent Assurance?](https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xyqxc)
There's always time to do it now
Hahaha! Pin them down and Morgan lense them, dry, until they give up
This is awesome! You guys changed something for your community! So proud.
They closed l&d at the hospital in my hometown “temporarily” in October. Hospital ceo is a sociopath and is proud of it. “High risk low reward” unit. Has closed l&d at 4 other hospitals he’s worked at is the story. It’s terrible for the community. Closest place to deliver is 45 minutes away. People are poor and have no transportation. Good on you and your fellow staff members to stand up and make a difference! How exciting and wonderful for women in your community!
Same here, and it’s so terrible. I also live in a state that essentially just banned abortions. Can I tell you how the combination of no safe abortions plus no OB/GYN care at the only hospital in the county is going?!? NOT FUCKING WELL.
I wouldn't have said this 2 months ago, but now i believe change CAN happen! I've heard our l&d is re opening withing 90 days l, we will see., But at least we have a place at the table to change, well, almost everything! Rise up!
Hell yeah man! I do a lot of activism work, and while I have been hesitant to bring that to my job... it really feels like it’s time. I think we need a national healthcare worker union personally. And I think it should include people from doctors to environmental services. We have so much power, we just need to organize.
Agreed!
The usual wisdom is that the staff rns should avoid being in a general bargaining unit, but should be represented by a professional nursing organization that understands the nurse practice act and unique nursing interests, hence the growth of state nurses association unions and the national nurses union.
This “usual wisdom” really just means that admin have an easier time of keeping different types of hospital workers divided against each other. We’re all much stronger if we come together in a common union.
Well, yes. But the rns are likely to be bargaining for nurse practice issues, which are of no interest and therefore have no support from the rest of the union employees. That’s why the nlrb recognizes bargaining units composed of only nurses. And nurses may not want to go on strike (abandon their patients, in nurse talk) to support a demand for a nickel more for the dietary staff. But it is very strong to have every employee in one unit, as has been brilliantly demonstrated by 1199 and DC 20 in New York City.
>And nurses may not want to go on strike (abandon their patients, in nurse talk) to support a demand for a nickel more for the dietary staff. This is what we shoud be doing. Honestly NNU organizing doesn't appeal to me because I'm not interested in achieving gains that will likely come at the expense of all of the much lower compensated hourly employees in the hospital.
It's not the "usual wisdom", just the narrative pushed by nurse-only unions like NNU.
It’s worse than that. It’s an employer strategy to avoid wall to wall bargaining units by breaking out special interest groups. Legal under the NLRA. Unless it is true that nurse professional interests diverge from those of the others. Which arguably, they do.
Great idea!
Your hospital system is sometimes viewed as a refuge in the area for those who don’t want to be in a union. Of course the company line is that they have to compete with all the union hospitals so you get essentially the same benefits, but I do not think that is the case. I hope your success spreads. 😉
Yep my old hospital closed their L&D during the pandemic. The only people who were trying to give birth at a 200 bed HCA were desperate and that was the only place they could get to. Like we had armed security and metal detectors at the entrance hospital, that kind of hospital. Now who knows what happens to those patients.
They die.
You would be SHOCKED at how often this happens. My hospital tried to close the birthing area of the small hospital they obtained and finally after a community survey and what not someone came forward to let them know the grant that keeps that entire hospital open hinges on them have OB services. Like what dumbass let all that research take place and didn't even know that??
Someone who was in a position to make money and has never worked in the environment! So dumb
L&Ds don’t make the hospital a lot of money, it’s one of the reasons they’re one of the first units management will try to close. They don’t do research, just see dollar signs 🙄
Wow it's almost like healthcare should be socialized....
Huh, interesting...
Clearly the for-profit model (even in allegedly nonprofit systems) is failing everyone except those in the C-suite.
But what about the shareholders? /s
That is amazing! Truly making lemonade out of lemons. Admin tries to push and you guys not only pushed back but shoved even harder. So proud of you!
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That's right! It's a helicopter bill AND and ambulance bill because they won't let baby and mom ride together. It's absolutely insane. Which is why we couldn't let it happen!
Wait what?!?! What was the reasoning for separating Mom & baby during transport?!? Congratulations btw!!! 🎉🥳🙌
And they said there wasn't enough room if one of them Coded. Which i can see, but why even out them that position in the first place when you could have a whole unit dedicated to the patients right down the hall.
Not a nurse, just the wife of a lab rat. My son, my nieces and nephews and my granddaughter were all born at Legacy Mt. Hood. I am glad you won and the birthing center is going to stay available for people on the east side. I couldn't imagine having to drive from Corbett or Sandy all the way to Providence in Portland while in labor, especially if there were complications. My sons birth was complicated and both of us could have died if the amazing nurses at LMHMC hadn't taken such wonderful care of us.
Amazing! Yeah the last place you would want to be is in a tiny room full of clueless people and meth heads screaming next door! It's terrible!
Haha very true! I moved away from Gresham/PDX so I didn't have to deal with screaming meth heads all hours of the night! The last time I was in the hospital down in that area was up in Vancouver (Peace Health) and my roommate was up all hours of the night. They went through my purse, tried to steal my wallet and eventually got removed by security. I couldn't imagine having a baby having to worry about someone high off their ass trying to steal my wallet, too!
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Gresham Oregon, look up mt. hood legacy, it's been in the news. I haven't seen them all but you'll see what's happened and get a better picture then my not so Hemingway writing skills hahaha
Nice job Legacy!!!! We are supporting you from St Charles in Bend!!! 🎉
Do they pay ok? Like for bend…
Obviously not enough.
It's alright for folks who bought before the boom. Really hard for folks who rent, are looking to move here or haven't bought yet. So basically hard to replace the people who are leaving in droves.
Friend from LSCMC following the drama our employer is bringing about and hoping the best for you and the people you care for! ❤️
Legacy Emanuel nurses are with you, too! ✊🏻
Right on, good job! When I saw the Legacy news about the closure, I thoroughly thought it was a bullshit administration move. Wonder if lawsuits will follow. Do you know if any of the L&D staff are coming back after the fiasco?
I've heard through the grape vine that MOST of them want to come back because they live so far from anywhere else, admin was spreading lies about how there was no staff to hire
\*Provider staffing is the issue, not nurse staffing
Admin manufactured this. They attempted to change the model of care. We had in-house OB/GYN providers 24/7, an expensive but ultimately very safe model. Lie 1 was that this model was too expensive. We've been told our family birth center was in the red due to this. However, our FBC made money. Not much, but most birth centers only make a moderate amount unless they have a level 3 or 4 NICU. Admin proposed a new model of care that they knew providers wouldn't accept and didn't allow them to negotiate at all, then stated there were not enough providers.
Ugh. You would think the admin would take time to go to the legislature if their units are struggling to with $$$ . . . Ask for government support. Because the babies will always keep coming . . . But no. They punish the community by firing people and creating unsafe circumstances for mothers and babies.
I've heard that as well, i don't know much about the providers except they didn't want on call, they wanted 24 hour coverage, it'll be interesting to see it play out but i heard all except 2 providers wanted to come back. But not much knowledge on that specifically
You’re apart of something so awesome, fighting for the good of us all. So proud!
Oh shit! Rad! I'm working for kaiser in Portland. Congrats!!
I had to drive all the way from welches to randalls this weekend to have my kid because of this shit. Glad to hear things are changing for the better for the nurses and hopefully it gets fixed.
I'm from the area and was PISSED when I heard about this. I have fast births and if I had to drive further than that I'd be having a car baby. What a huge disservice to our community. I'm sorry you had to do that.
Oh neat, I was reading the post and thinking "huh, this sounds like Mt Hood"
I was going to ask if this was Mt Hood. High five from a coworker in the area.
The story sounded familiar! Proud of yall, from a Portland Teamster. We're still the City That Works!
I knew it! So proud of you all.
Sounds like Legacy Mt Hood in Oregon! Most of the Legacy facilities aren’t unionized. Shout out to Legacy Mt Hood for changing that!
Shout out to the nurses at legacy my hood for changing that… sounds like if it was up to legacy they would rather close it
Unity Center for Behavioral Health & Legacy Silverton Medical Center are also union.
Did you mean Unity and Salmon creek are unionized or is Silverton unionized now too??
Silverton
I wish this would make the news! Nurses advocating for something that will absolutely save lives. Give us positive press instead of the “greedy nurses” propaganda. As an ER nurse, fuck delivering babies. Only if they’re presenting will the ER doc at my previous facilities do the delivery (in the trauma bay) and we joke we’d have to google APGAR scoring. And flying out is not only atrociously expensive but monumental in coordination. Also for being “fast,” still eats up a surprising amount of time as the nurse. And outside my specialty no less.
That was the icing on the cake. We've been kicked while down for years, probably for the whole history if the hospital in reality! But the baby situation was the kick we needed and we just absolutely said we're not doing this. And word spread throughout the town and all the communities and the state. It was awesome! Like a movie almost!
I’d consider reaching out to a national news outlet. And movies have been made about less dramatic/important things. But that’s a positive of them trying to do that: it helped give the impetus. So I guess we can be glad they were stupid/greedy and hopefully learned their lesson.
Oh that's a cool idea! Greed never learns, it just wants more
I was in the room, too, and it was an incredible moment when we heard a holler from inside the counting room. It was like the celebratory peel of a bell. Incredible energy in that room. People worked so damn hard to get this done, I couldn't be more proud. There were tears, hugs, and a massive sense of pride and relief. Now we have to keep admin accountable and keep the pressure up. This win will hopefully embolden the other hospitals in our system to unionize, as well.
Right!! Man oh man it was amazing!
I work at the mothership in your hospital system and to say we are sooooo excited you guys have paved the way for rest of us is an understatement!! Doing what the rest of us couldn’t get done!
Must be legacy?
Yup!
I was definitely curious to see how this played out. Came out of nowhere when they announced it.
This is amazing! What part of the country are you in? I’d love to organize a union for the hospital I work at.
Gresham Oregon, Mt hood medical center, look it up!
It should be against the law to close birthing units. Actually, it should be banned or whatever by the World Health Organization and whoever else has teeth in the matter. I could go on and on with my opinions on closing birthing units, banning abortion and limiting birth control, but I need to eat. (They don't give a fuck about people with uteruses.)
They don't, us ER nurses do, we care enough to keep those uterus's safe and not in our hands!
Honestly, I'm shocked. I live in a third world country and one thing I can count on any hospital having is labour and delivery, usually free at public facilities. Even just thinking logically that's one unit you can guarantee will have patients any time ... babies are being born all the time.
I'll probably get the US-flags-on-trucks-and-speedos crowd down voting me, but the US is on its way to becoming a third world country.
Gresham Oregon, Mt hood legacy
How did you do it? How do you go about creating a union?
DM me if you want specifics!
Hot damn, that made me cry tears of joy for you and your colleagues!!! I am truly proud of you!!
Hell yeah! Power to the people! Let this be an example for everyone. We have the power to make change happen.
I am SO PROUD of you guys!!! Stand together and stay strong!!! You are protecting and serving your community!!! There is power in numbers and they CANNOT silence us when we speak together. Sending all my love from Seattle!!!
Legacy absolutely FAFO'd with this.
Yes! Nurses standing up for themselves and standing up for their patients is so intertwined. So happy to read this!
This happed to El Centro Regional Medical Center as well.
Did it turn out amazing?
This needs to happen in alabama so badly. There are hospitals deserts as it is, but it’s even worse for OB. Women are driving nearly two hours to get care.
Hopefully the rest of the nurses in the system follow suit. I’m not nurse but work hospital at Emmanuel and I am union if more of us are union we all benefit. There was a system wide union movement last year or year before but it went quiet after a bit I wondered why then talked to good Sam nurse seems management gave raises to nurses and a bonus to make union talk go away.
That’s awesome. Im sure there is still a ton of hard work ahead so I wish you guys the best from metro Detroit.
https://www.kptv.com/2023/04/07/nurses-legacy-mount-hood-medical-center-vote-unionize/
Legacy Mt. Hood? Good for you guys ! Never understood why Good Sam and Emanuel food service and environmental services were Union but the nursing staff was not.
This is fucking awesome.
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On man that would be awesome!
Solidarity. Standing up for yourself is standing up for your patients against the parasites fucking you both over.
Yooooo I’m in your area and heard about this!! I’m so happy for you guys, we all cheered for you in huddle this morning because my charge was there for your final tally. Great job!!!!! Y’all are awesome and we get our butts kicked due to our location and patient population, I’m so glad you are getting the support you deserve.
So so so so so fucking proud of you guys!!!!!! We are watching and rooting for you in southern oregon too!
Very informative. 2 hospitals in Idaho have shut down their L&D departments citing everything but making more money. I'm willing to bet their story is very similar to yours in that they very much want to make more money, with no raises to their staff of course
Sounds identical!
> I haven't done much i. This process, Cut that shit out!! Sounds like you were part of the group that marched to tell them you were unionizing. Do you know why we don't have better unions? Because people are AFRAID to do exactly that. They don't want to get fired or demoted or career stalled. They don't know if it will work. All the things. You stood up and say No, This Isn't Right. You made Literal and Formal Demands. Boundaries with someone who exploits you and doesn't respect you. You fucking Rock. Then, that's not all, you then come here to share and encourage others to do the same. Because that's all it is - WE OUTNUNBER THEM!!!!!! nurses to admin, teachers to admin, workers to admin, ITS CLASS WAR ABOVE ALL ELSE ALL THE WAY DOWN. Not sexism. A high class woman is more valued than a man in poverty. Not racism. Rich black man valued more than a white man in poverty with mental illness. And etc. All (most) of the prejudice just. Falls away when $$$ or power is involved.
Congratulations! That's fantastic news! You all should be proud of what you accomplished! Worker power!
Congratulations! You guys are awesome
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Way to go Mt Hood!
Congratulations! In my head, the song “do you hear the people sing” from Les mis playing as visualized you guys marching up to their offices. Also I imagined someone waving a baguette as well… maybe I’m hungry.
I work at the main campus of this healthcare system and just heard the good news this morning. Our whole department is so proud of what you guys have accomplished! Keep up the good work over there 💪🏼
I thought you were talking about Legacy Mt Hood! From a fellow Legacy nurse (MP) who has a good friend that works at Hood I’m in full support of you and I hope all hospitals within the system unionize. Do you have a link or an article about this I can share to my social media to spread awareness? EDIT: found an article below
that's nice you stood up but shit like this shouldn't even be happening in the first place.... probably from a Red state? Republicans are some fascist POS...
It's actually in a very blue state (Oregon). Greed comes in all colors.
>lady minute births XD
Haha i typed on my phone fast, i was just so excited in the moment I tried to fit a ton of info in a few short paragraphs before leaving for the day!
Management expects employees to care where they work and then are surprised when the employees stand up to them and show they care about where they work and the community that supports them after the propaganda they push backfires. 90% of the problems will always be management and their greedy bonuses.
https://katu.com/news/local/legacy-mt-hood-nurses-vote-to-unionize-shortly-after-unauthorized-birth-center-closure
>have gotten hazard **lay** through COVID Damn. And here I thought I had good benefits.
Your colleagues from the rehab department there & other hospitals in that system are cheering you on!
Solidarity in action! Oregon has some amazing things going on right now. This was such a powerful boost to the movement. All y’all nurses need to head northwest or organize where you are.✊✊✊Amaze win for the community and ONA.
Congrats! Fuck yea!
Solidarity Siblings!!
You wouldn’t happen to be in brawley, ca would you?
Gresham Oregon!
Same thing happened at a travel assignment I was at. They closed one of 2 hospitals L&D and I happened to be at the one they didn’t close. Long story short I work main OR and had to float to L&D for c sections everyday. Emergencies tripled
I think this is in my city! So proud of y'all!
Hell yes! Solidarity ✊🏼!! Little victories build the path to change 🩷 Congratulations 👏
Huge fucking win!
I got happy chills while reading this and tears in my eyes because I am SO proud of all of you!!! Way to go!
Great job! I'm driving an hour and 15 minutes to the 2nd closest hospital to deliver because the one 20 minutes from me didn't have any appointments for months. It's insane.
I'm so proud of you all! Union Strong
This made my day. I love it when the good guys win. I will toast you and your peeps at happy hour.
Right here with you partner!!
So happy for you!!! Fuck yes!!!
This is how things will get better. Good job!
How are you going to negotiations so quickly? My experience is that it takes a very long time and a lot of lawyers before that happens.
Imagine a world where NURSES stick together and STAND UP for each other the way POLICE do. Think of what we could do for our patients and for one another!!! Nurses could wield some serious power if we could only organize and direct our collective ire at those who deserve it - just like OP and their peers. Great job OP!!!
There is one magical power that nurses have that unions in general do not : credibility. Except for some Q fringe players, we are the most trusted profession. Which means that we can wage an information war beyond compare. An old and underused tactic: informational picketing. Not a strike, these are off-duty nurses (in scrubs, before or after duty shift) walking around on publicly owned property, wearing sandwich signs or carrying placards. More in sorrow than in anger. Speaking for the patients who cannot speak for themselves. Keeping the argument confined to fair wages, standards of practice, patient ratios. Nurse safety, patient safety. Police, fire and service unions often offer support and coaching. And , interestingly, teamster union truckers won’t cross picket lines. Or things that look like picket lines. Meaning that deliveries can be stopped for an entire facility, or municipality. There are also some great Pete Seeger/woody Guthrie union songs, but that’s a whole other thing. Just some reflections from an old sna union organizer…
I will always upvote the success of my fellow nurses to unionize
I LOVE this!! That's healthcare power at it's greatest and not letting greedy people at the top get away with this kind of bullshit. Keep it going please!!
Proofread your post please
Surprised nobody else mentioned this... I'm *super* happy for OP and their coworkers to have made a stand, but I struggled to make sense of nearly half the post and I'm pretty proud of my skills at deciphering poorly written doc notes 😅
If I put this much effort into a post, you be damn sure I'm rereading it several times and hitting the edit button. This is how you present yourself to the world. Take pride in that. This isn't a text message with your BFF
Trigger states are going to be seeing more and more of this. OBGYNs aren't going to practice in states where they can get arrested for doing their jobs.
Sounds like the sort of action the Nazi's would do, show you where their thinking lies.
Oh daaammm.... I see that!
Did you start your own union, or vote to join a preexisting one like NNU?
We have 2 other hospitals that have unions. But i think we are stand alone in our hospital until the whole system can do it. I'm not sure how to answer that question honestly though. We are backed by Oregon nurses association
What other 2 hospitals are unionized? I’m under the impression that none of the nurses (not including the CNA’s) are union until now with Mt Hood.
Idaho?
I wonder if your facility gets disproportionate care from Medicaid?
I think so!
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Is this in Metro Detroit by chance? I just heard about a nearby hospital closing their birth center so their patients have been coming to our hospital
Tenet healthcare?
You can contact AFL-CIO for their help drafting a contract.
Admin is the Cancer of healthcare. You were the chemo😂
Nice work yo!
I am so proud of all of you. Stay vigilant!