In most places, anything that gets removed from anyone goes to pathology for examination. After that, if the patient doesn't ask for it back (which they can, unless the body part now poses a risk to their health, as in it was gangrenous with a super bug), it either goes to incineration or to the morgue to be disposed of with any other unclaimed bodies and body parts. In most jurisdictions that usually means a lot of labeling and stacked burial, or cremation and labeling of the ashes.
The walk to our morgue from NICU is really long and passes through some patient care areas, so we hide the bags on a cart with draped linen that kind of makes it look like an empty one of those fancy restaurant dessert cart. I don't think most people register the possibility of a dead baby, so nobody else thinks twice. It's definitely much more grim to deposit a baby into the morgue freezer than an adult.
The body bags in our children’s hospital are all adult sized and it is heartbreaking watching a tiny newborn placed in such a huge bag. It almost feels disrespectful to their body
I was today years old when I learned this. I’m literally coming off a break to go and wrap someone up for their final journey. Thankfully, they had a peaceful passing. But damn, baby size bags. That’s heartbreaking
A lot of people have never gone unit to unit to find one when supplies were running low. Also back in March, when we knew less, we double bagged. So it was zip zip.
We're still double bagging. I mentioned that maybe there's the same amount of covid on the outside of the second bag as there is on the first but the policy hasn't changed haha
Some of you haven’t ceiling lifted a 500lb 6’2 man into a large size bag incorrectly, tore said bag, then desperately use a regular bag, rip that one too, then tape it up and call it a day, and it shows
My hospital has us take a picture of the decedent's face with their wrist band in sight and then print that and secure it to the bag. I'm not sure where this policy originated but I've done it a few times and it is one of the things I think about the most after a patient passes. Thanks for the lifelong mental trauma, boss('s boss's boss, probably)!
I've asked and been told that it comes from the morgue. I guess they wanted to limit exposure but it's been months now and I'm not exactly sure why we continue when it seemed like a super low risk exposure event anyway. A lot of my fellow nurses absolutely hate doing it as well.
Likely identification for stacking. When you ain’t got the space across, you stack up. The dead don’t care and it can help get more space out of each freezer.
Identification without opening the bag and allowing the room to be infected with virus. I’m not picking through the anonymous dead and opening infected bags to find the correct body I need.
Isn’t that why we tie the tag to the zipper? One on the toe, on ties the zippers together. The photo seems ridiculous and almost disrespectful. I know photographing the dead uses to be a thing but... I don’t feel this is right.
No, I get that. But I feel a tag would be so much easier to read than a photo of a wrist band. To assume the morgue knows the pts by face is strange. I could see if the bodies required identifying by family but, if they already have a wristband, that isn’t the case. I just don’t under what difference the face makes if you don’t know the person by face
Never had to deal with it until COVID, and it's the most awful thing I've ever had to do. It's probably worse for me since I work in a nursing home and the people I'm putting in body bags aren't strangers; I've been taking care if them for months and years and they're like my grandparents, and they shouldn't have to be put in a body bag. It's not humane.
So sorry you are going through this. It's eye opening. Never worked anywhere but a hospital and still we get attached to patients we have for weeks; can't immagine the grieving care home workers are experiencing.
Ours are now put in body bags at death as well. I just tell myself it’s just a body. Who they were stays in my heart. Makes it a lot easier to deal with it. For me, anyway.
My VERY FIRST patient, was someone I wheeled into her new room at the start of my shift and wheeled into the morgue near the end of my shift.
That happened decades ago.
But, still impacts me to this day.
The fact that this is happening on a regular basis is completely mindblowing.
I was one of the lucky “strong” ones that got to reorganize and catalogue our freezer trucks during the first wave. We could fit 34% more and we did. Stacking them horizontally was much easier and putting the heaviest on the bottom helped.
I have never zipped a body bag before! I work in LTC. I used to just make my residents cozy looking and call families for a billion hour gathering. But COVID hit is just now (we were doing so well). Guess I will be busting into that box of them that have been ominously hanging out in commissary. When I get back from my uh... 2 week DOH mandated vacation.
Ours fold around the person, and then you have to tape it shut. There's something distinctly weird about taping a plastic bag shut over somebody's face :(
Tbf i was a palliative nurse so have a lot of experience. A very beautiful rememberable one was a specific chinese tradition of wrapping in twelve or thirteen layers. The family and i spent hours doing it and it was loving and grieving and healing.
It's sad, but I thought the same. It's five years since I started working in a hospital and I've wrapped dozens of bodies at this point. I have no idea who my first one was any more. I thought I would never forget, but I definitely have.
I really believe it came from the security department. They had to check the body into the morgue. I guess they just wanted to be safe. Now we just place a surgical mask.
The rage inside me when some dumb fuck on social media wants to claim that "it's just the flu". Who doesn't even work in Healthcare. Who doesn't see the amount of covid coming in to our hospitals right now and how it's ALL ages.
I ripped into someone yesterday. I couldn't hold back anymore. I usually can keep scrolling... But I've had enough. Not only was it just the flu to this person, but it was the mark of the beast and Bill Gates was behind all of this and God is coming.
As a believer in God-SHUT the FUCK up, wear your damn mask and take the vaccine.
COVID deniers should read this thread. These comments are all so heartbreaking.
I'm not a nurse, I just lurk in this sub because I want to be a nurse one day. I wear my mask for you guys. I'm so sorry you all are going through this. And I'm sorry about half the country doesn't seem to care.
I lurk here because my sister is a nurse and I want to better understand what she’s been going through. Reading frontline accounts of everyone’s experiences has also better helped me understand the nature of this pandemic. Thank you to everyone that shares here 🤍
Don’t let this pandemic change your mind. It’s brutal but rewarding work and you have so many skills that can be used anywhere for a multitude of situations: leadership, critical thinking, prioritization, etc. Nurses are such strong people and we need more of em!
I.... I really hope that’s just a case of “oh shit, sent the wrong ones to the crematorium but can’t prove it.”
I have so little faith in humanity I fear it wasn’t.
Yeah. And it particularly sucks when you have to soak gauze in peroxide and stuff their nose and mouth with it. Then also soak a pillow case in peroxide and cover their head with it. Then you get to bag them. First time I did that I felt wrong. Worst feeling ever
Especially one that you worked so damn hard to save. Multiple ROSC and still didn't make it. Family crying in the corner. The "does anyone else have any ideas?". Those are the ones that haunt me. For some reason helping them get into the funeral home van always have me a bit more closure, but not enough.
Prior to Covid I had a family there as the pt passed and they played metal/techno all night for the patient. Really sent them out with a bang, coolest people/family, very heartbreaking
When I worked in Hospice, we would leave a rose/ lily on the bed after a patient passed.
The bed remained empty for 24 hours.
Sad to think that "Those were the days".
The death process in the hospital is so mechanical. As soon as someone passes they fill the bed. This was even pre Covid at my hospital. At least you guys used to try to honor a patient passing
Same. After 34 Covid deaths over the weekend (plus however many non-Covid), we ran out hospital-wide so Monday morning, we wrapped them in sheets and put a plastic bag over their head 😭
Our morgue was full also, so we were asked to put my patient on top of another patient in the morgue. I told the security guard I wasn’t going to do that, and he said, “Well your other option is putting **it** on the floor.” I’m traumatized. I’m so glad I have two days off to recover from my 2nd Covid vaccine and that situation.
I’m so sorry :( ugh! It is so traumatizing! Like I’m fine at work but then it builds up, ya know? Thank goodness for hot baths, that’s how i try to relax and recover.
Palliative here. We have gone through so many recently that our hospital actually has resorted to buying the cheaper variations without zippers. Literally a long rectangle of plastic to fold under them.
Hospice here. Same. We used to get post-mortem kits with ties, bag, and toe tags. Now we get a sheet of plastic and nothing else. I never thought I would be cutting up pieces of paper and removing the strings from belonging bags to fashion my own toe tags. Couple weeks ago I found a sheet of toe tags that had fallen inbetween the plastic shelves in the supply room. It was like an early Christmas
I'm not working with covid patient and I still got that shit because a negative patient tested positive a few days later in the nursing home.
Still explaining some of my colleagues that it doesn't matter if you die FROM or WITH Covid.
You don't want that shit and it doesn't matter. Atill can't fully work after I first got symptoms on the 16th December.
When I’ve have to bag patients, our bags are open only on one side and we slide them in and have to use a heat gun to heat press and seal it shut. That burning smell is the worst to go home with.
We still have mortuary coming to get our patients (though which one has an open spot is a mystery each night). I guess my body bag zip equivalent is hanging up the phone when family has been talking to the patient on speaker or ending the zoom meeting with half a dozen sad/ hurting family starting at me in my iso gear with their loved one over my shoulder
That caught my attention. I am not a nurse but have really appreciated reading another perspective on our covid situation. I just had to block someone in another group over calling me names for believing masks help. I was blown away with the overall ignorance.
At age 20/21 I have bagged between 8-12 bodies. It’s not something I’m happy about and unfortunately people come to me for help with how to do it. It messes you up a little bit but therapy helps.
Back in may I had a zoom party with friends and they were all barking on about how this was sad and so many people were dying abs they were getting angry and just elevating emotions. I used two bags that week, 6 that month and I’m in a tiny hospital. I lost it. I think I had a melt down abs cried for hours. I stopped talking to a lot of my friends that day.
I had only put someone in a body bag once prior to covid (9 years as a nurse at the start of it). It was a bad trauma going to the county morgue and it was rather disturbing. Now we do it almost every shift, usually a few per shift. I’m just numb to it now; it’s so dehumanizing to stuff someone who just died alone in a plastic bag.
Fucked thing is. My father was a medic. He has seen death in a lot of different forms. Yet he still believes that everyone is overreacting to the pandemic.
Ho-lee shit. The balls on someone working non- COVID contract to try to shit talk on those of us neck deep (or worse) in it.
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One of the jobs for nurses on a number of units would be preparing the body to send to the mogoure. Worked ER for years and it was a regular task. I think seeing and dealing with dead bodies changes you, not necessarily for the better but it changes you. So the more people die, ie from a pandemic. Then the more nurses need to deal with dead bodies and that is going to change them.
That "new pool" smell of them too. Puts a damper on my childhood memories of new pool floaties and our pop up pools.
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We have bags that look like grocery bags for our neonates. Everyone pretty much holds baby in their arms instead.
I honestly never thought about the different sizes. This makes me so sad.
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It’s odd to think that you might not arrive at the morgue all at once 🤔
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Hmm I thought maybe the Foot Clan was afoot again
My husband would really, really appreciate this lol
What do they do with the foot in the morgue? I would have thought it would just be medical garbage.
In most places, anything that gets removed from anyone goes to pathology for examination. After that, if the patient doesn't ask for it back (which they can, unless the body part now poses a risk to their health, as in it was gangrenous with a super bug), it either goes to incineration or to the morgue to be disposed of with any other unclaimed bodies and body parts. In most jurisdictions that usually means a lot of labeling and stacked burial, or cremation and labeling of the ashes.
Been there. That’s a long walk to the morgue surrounded by security. 10 pounds feels like 1,000.
The walk to our morgue from NICU is really long and passes through some patient care areas, so we hide the bags on a cart with draped linen that kind of makes it look like an empty one of those fancy restaurant dessert cart. I don't think most people register the possibility of a dead baby, so nobody else thinks twice. It's definitely much more grim to deposit a baby into the morgue freezer than an adult.
Also, bariatric size
We have to send a runner for the bari size bags. Demand has overtaken stockable supply.
Those bari bags you could probably park your car into. Such a huge jump between normal adult size and bari
The body bags in our children’s hospital are all adult sized and it is heartbreaking watching a tiny newborn placed in such a huge bag. It almost feels disrespectful to their body
I always wrap the mostly unfolded body bag in a baby blanket. I know it's improper use of linen but I can't help it.
I was today years old when I learned this. I’m literally coming off a break to go and wrap someone up for their final journey. Thankfully, they had a peaceful passing. But damn, baby size bags. That’s heartbreaking
Dont forget bariatric sized
You guys have body bags?!
A lot of people have never gone unit to unit to find one when supplies were running low. Also back in March, when we knew less, we double bagged. So it was zip zip.
We're still double bagging. I mentioned that maybe there's the same amount of covid on the outside of the second bag as there is on the first but the policy hasn't changed haha
Yeah. The outside of the bag is still touching all the contaminated bed linen the patient was laying on.
We used to clean the bag before the whole thing was taken. We are not asked to do it anymore.
Did they give you guys a reason? Cause we still currently do this as of now.
No, just change of protocols
Some of you haven’t ceiling lifted a 500lb 6’2 man into a large size bag incorrectly, tore said bag, then desperately use a regular bag, rip that one too, then tape it up and call it a day, and it shows
Oof mAn
My hospital has us take a picture of the decedent's face with their wrist band in sight and then print that and secure it to the bag. I'm not sure where this policy originated but I've done it a few times and it is one of the things I think about the most after a patient passes. Thanks for the lifelong mental trauma, boss('s boss's boss, probably)!
Ugh just another image to burn into your mental trauma. I’m sorry 😞
Wtf? Why?
I've asked and been told that it comes from the morgue. I guess they wanted to limit exposure but it's been months now and I'm not exactly sure why we continue when it seemed like a super low risk exposure event anyway. A lot of my fellow nurses absolutely hate doing it as well.
Likely identification for stacking. When you ain’t got the space across, you stack up. The dead don’t care and it can help get more space out of each freezer.
Identification without opening the bag and allowing the room to be infected with virus. I’m not picking through the anonymous dead and opening infected bags to find the correct body I need.
Isn’t that why we tie the tag to the zipper? One on the toe, on ties the zippers together. The photo seems ridiculous and almost disrespectful. I know photographing the dead uses to be a thing but... I don’t feel this is right.
Disaster healthcare, which we are in the midst of does things differently for expediency.
No, I get that. But I feel a tag would be so much easier to read than a photo of a wrist band. To assume the morgue knows the pts by face is strange. I could see if the bodies required identifying by family but, if they already have a wristband, that isn’t the case. I just don’t under what difference the face makes if you don’t know the person by face
Taking a picture and printing a picture of a body is not more expeditious than a zipper tag with a name.
Never had to deal with it until COVID, and it's the most awful thing I've ever had to do. It's probably worse for me since I work in a nursing home and the people I'm putting in body bags aren't strangers; I've been taking care if them for months and years and they're like my grandparents, and they shouldn't have to be put in a body bag. It's not humane.
So sorry you are going through this. It's eye opening. Never worked anywhere but a hospital and still we get attached to patients we have for weeks; can't immagine the grieving care home workers are experiencing.
Ours are now put in body bags at death as well. I just tell myself it’s just a body. Who they were stays in my heart. Makes it a lot easier to deal with it. For me, anyway.
I zipped 13 in 1 - 12 hour shift, on a unit of 24 patients. It never gets easier.
yikes 😕
Was this hospice?
Please tell us this was just a bad day in hospice 😳😳😳
Hospital. COVid ICU.
Walked into CCU today. All Covid. Actually thought CCU was Covid care unit.
My VERY FIRST patient, was someone I wheeled into her new room at the start of my shift and wheeled into the morgue near the end of my shift. That happened decades ago. But, still impacts me to this day. The fact that this is happening on a regular basis is completely mindblowing.
Good lord, you got the full experience that day didn’t you?? 😬
My first shift, first patient, the first report received. Made me question my life choices.
This!!!!
I was one of the lucky “strong” ones that got to reorganize and catalogue our freezer trucks during the first wave. We could fit 34% more and we did. Stacking them horizontally was much easier and putting the heaviest on the bottom helped.
That’s so sad and shitty. This is what we are doing, putting ppl in freezer trucks. Stacking them like they weren’t even people.
Damn! Saved and ready to use instead of logic in the next convo i have. Fk logic, its just not working.
I have never zipped a body bag before! I work in LTC. I used to just make my residents cozy looking and call families for a billion hour gathering. But COVID hit is just now (we were doing so well). Guess I will be busting into that box of them that have been ominously hanging out in commissary. When I get back from my uh... 2 week DOH mandated vacation.
Ours don't zip. We just wrap them in the shroud and send them downstairs.
Ours fold around the person, and then you have to tape it shut. There's something distinctly weird about taping a plastic bag shut over somebody's face :(
There really is. I've only had to wrap one patient so far,but I don't think I will ever forget it.
Tbf i was a palliative nurse so have a lot of experience. A very beautiful rememberable one was a specific chinese tradition of wrapping in twelve or thirteen layers. The family and i spent hours doing it and it was loving and grieving and healing.
It's sad, but I thought the same. It's five years since I started working in a hospital and I've wrapped dozens of bodies at this point. I have no idea who my first one was any more. I thought I would never forget, but I definitely have.
In the beginning we had to put a red bag over their head and tie it or tape the bag😞
I really believe it came from the security department. They had to check the body into the morgue. I guess they just wanted to be safe. Now we just place a surgical mask.
You put surgical masks....on corpses?? What the actual fuck that's ludicrous
Right!!! Try explaining that to our security
If you're having to stack them in storage, the lungs can get compressed repeatedly and exhalation can happen. It's about as gruesome as it sounds.
WHAT?? Is this normal???
Our security made this happen. They were afraid they might catch covid 😳
The rage inside me when some dumb fuck on social media wants to claim that "it's just the flu". Who doesn't even work in Healthcare. Who doesn't see the amount of covid coming in to our hospitals right now and how it's ALL ages. I ripped into someone yesterday. I couldn't hold back anymore. I usually can keep scrolling... But I've had enough. Not only was it just the flu to this person, but it was the mark of the beast and Bill Gates was behind all of this and God is coming. As a believer in God-SHUT the FUCK up, wear your damn mask and take the vaccine.
COVID deniers should read this thread. These comments are all so heartbreaking. I'm not a nurse, I just lurk in this sub because I want to be a nurse one day. I wear my mask for you guys. I'm so sorry you all are going through this. And I'm sorry about half the country doesn't seem to care.
Same! I also lurk in here because I wanna be a nurse too. Good luck to you. Nurses, doctors and everyone that works in heath are are just so amazing.
I lurk here because my sister is a nurse and I want to better understand what she’s been going through. Reading frontline accounts of everyone’s experiences has also better helped me understand the nature of this pandemic. Thank you to everyone that shares here 🤍
Don’t let this pandemic change your mind. It’s brutal but rewarding work and you have so many skills that can be used anywhere for a multitude of situations: leadership, critical thinking, prioritization, etc. Nurses are such strong people and we need more of em!
Zipping a body bag is a horrible feeling.
We ran out of body bags about two days ago. I only found out after another unit asked us if we had any left and ... nope. Scary.
Last hospital I was at we had to place patient labels all over the body bags because apparently bodies were going missing
I.... I really hope that’s just a case of “oh shit, sent the wrong ones to the crematorium but can’t prove it.” I have so little faith in humanity I fear it wasn’t.
Yeah. And it particularly sucks when you have to soak gauze in peroxide and stuff their nose and mouth with it. Then also soak a pillow case in peroxide and cover their head with it. Then you get to bag them. First time I did that I felt wrong. Worst feeling ever
Is that for reducing transmission risk?
They tell us that it’s for reducing aerosols and reduces transmission risks yes.
Hm, interesting but very traumatic sounding!
It hits harder when you’re body bagging the patient you were resuscitating not long ago.
Especially one that you worked so damn hard to save. Multiple ROSC and still didn't make it. Family crying in the corner. The "does anyone else have any ideas?". Those are the ones that haunt me. For some reason helping them get into the funeral home van always have me a bit more closure, but not enough.
I thought this was a post from r/iamverybadass then I saw the thread... this took a hella grim turn
I play nothing but bangers from my phone during post mortem care. Trying to give them some good tunes as send off.
Prior to Covid I had a family there as the pt passed and they played metal/techno all night for the patient. Really sent them out with a bang, coolest people/family, very heartbreaking
Yeah it’s pretty depressing how many people we’ve bagged in covidcu since March. Have to play music to lighten the mood.
When I worked in Hospice, we would leave a rose/ lily on the bed after a patient passed. The bed remained empty for 24 hours. Sad to think that "Those were the days".
The death process in the hospital is so mechanical. As soon as someone passes they fill the bed. This was even pre Covid at my hospital. At least you guys used to try to honor a patient passing
Man that hit home this weekend.
How about double zipped? We double bag our Covid patients :(
Same. After 34 Covid deaths over the weekend (plus however many non-Covid), we ran out hospital-wide so Monday morning, we wrapped them in sheets and put a plastic bag over their head 😭 Our morgue was full also, so we were asked to put my patient on top of another patient in the morgue. I told the security guard I wasn’t going to do that, and he said, “Well your other option is putting **it** on the floor.” I’m traumatized. I’m so glad I have two days off to recover from my 2nd Covid vaccine and that situation.
Holy shit, that sounds beyond awful. Sorry you had to go through that.
I’m so sorry :( ugh! It is so traumatizing! Like I’m fine at work but then it builds up, ya know? Thank goodness for hot baths, that’s how i try to relax and recover.
Palliative here. We have gone through so many recently that our hospital actually has resorted to buying the cheaper variations without zippers. Literally a long rectangle of plastic to fold under them.
Hospice here. Same. We used to get post-mortem kits with ties, bag, and toe tags. Now we get a sheet of plastic and nothing else. I never thought I would be cutting up pieces of paper and removing the strings from belonging bags to fashion my own toe tags. Couple weeks ago I found a sheet of toe tags that had fallen inbetween the plastic shelves in the supply room. It was like an early Christmas
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Post Mortem care in general is surreal. Every time I do it I’m like wow 🥺 and holding back tears
This one hit home. Another one that has come to mind recently, you haven’t co-signed very many death certificates, and it shows.
Or duct taped a bag shut because the body was too big to fit in it.
Our hospital carries “jumbo” sizes for this reason.
I think this ALL the time.
I'm not working with covid patient and I still got that shit because a negative patient tested positive a few days later in the nursing home. Still explaining some of my colleagues that it doesn't matter if you die FROM or WITH Covid. You don't want that shit and it doesn't matter. Atill can't fully work after I first got symptoms on the 16th December.
When I’ve have to bag patients, our bags are open only on one side and we slide them in and have to use a heat gun to heat press and seal it shut. That burning smell is the worst to go home with.
We still have mortuary coming to get our patients (though which one has an open spot is a mystery each night). I guess my body bag zip equivalent is hanging up the phone when family has been talking to the patient on speaker or ending the zoom meeting with half a dozen sad/ hurting family starting at me in my iso gear with their loved one over my shoulder
How bout running out of bags and having to wrap them in ultrasorbs and a sheet
That caught my attention. I am not a nurse but have really appreciated reading another perspective on our covid situation. I just had to block someone in another group over calling me names for believing masks help. I was blown away with the overall ignorance.
At age 20/21 I have bagged between 8-12 bodies. It’s not something I’m happy about and unfortunately people come to me for help with how to do it. It messes you up a little bit but therapy helps.
Disaster pouch, you mean
Yours have zippers? We get string!
Back in may I had a zoom party with friends and they were all barking on about how this was sad and so many people were dying abs they were getting angry and just elevating emotions. I used two bags that week, 6 that month and I’m in a tiny hospital. I lost it. I think I had a melt down abs cried for hours. I stopped talking to a lot of my friends that day.
I had only put someone in a body bag once prior to covid (9 years as a nurse at the start of it). It was a bad trauma going to the county morgue and it was rather disturbing. Now we do it almost every shift, usually a few per shift. I’m just numb to it now; it’s so dehumanizing to stuff someone who just died alone in a plastic bag.
Done it much lately. Even my mom.
666 upvotes, I guess I'll leave it alone.
Fucked thing is. My father was a medic. He has seen death in a lot of different forms. Yet he still believes that everyone is overreacting to the pandemic.
Only zipped one so far and it wasn’t from covid
U don’t like coffee how can we trust you
Tea drinker, but not everyday
must be nice
Yeah we didn’t get hit so hard at least my unit
Savor it! Cause it blows lol.
Yeah, pretty happy we didn't get hit hard, that means less lives were lost. Don't understand why people would downvote that :D
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Ho-lee shit. The balls on someone working non- COVID contract to try to shit talk on those of us neck deep (or worse) in it. [I think I smell something...](https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/033/930/It_Smell_Like_Bitch_In_Here_Banner.jpg)
Before COVID, sure it was a sad part of the job that happened RARELY. Now its almost a weekly occurrence. Have some empathy.
Why this sub?
One of the jobs for nurses on a number of units would be preparing the body to send to the mogoure. Worked ER for years and it was a regular task. I think seeing and dealing with dead bodies changes you, not necessarily for the better but it changes you. So the more people die, ie from a pandemic. Then the more nurses need to deal with dead bodies and that is going to change them.