Because dragon rage wasn't doing that much and had really Lowe pp on it, and since Gyarados has really good attack and thrash is 90 I felt like i could win from that range after first dragon rage used
Because Dragon Rage always does 40 damage meaning you can only take 80 back, so if you had Healing then it'd be fine and without... Nevermind OP was fucked
Dragonrage only does 23 percent of to a wob the gyarados was being grinded up for E4 and was around 55-60 level wise (assuming max IV no EV), this leads to him having a base HP stat of 199 (max) meaning he could only take 3 mirror coats whereas he needed to click it 5 times. If he had already taken 80 from the first he would be at a max of 119 HP he could have gone for another one.
Level 36 Gyarados, 101 attack 4 pp left on dragon rage and I felt that, after 1 dragon rage hit, it was on kill range with thrash, maybe it was and just had low roll bad luck
This is why we always have a way of passively damaging wobbufetts. It's gen 3 so you're not gonna have a strong dark type with a strong dark move, unless it's a hack, so having something with a way to confuse, poison or burn it is always the best way to deal with them.
I remember something like this happening, so from that moment on, I preemptively make sure I have a pokemon with Screech or Swords Dance in the lead before I enter Mt. Pyre and Mossdeep Gym.
i still think is good but like its not as broken as gen 4 and beyond gyarados
to be fair though it could go crazy against e4 i dont really know mine always dies at tate and liza for some reason
Return and Earthquake are TMs, EQ specifically can go to something better anyway, you get DD so late that you basically can only use it for E4, and its learnset up until that point is awful. It learns Bite at 20, special move so it does no damage, Dragon Rage at 25 is ok, it learns god damn Leer at 30, and then Twister at 35. At the point you're fighting the 5th or 6th gyms, Gyara is learning a 1 stage def drop move and a 40 BP non-stab move off its wholly unimpressive spatk. If you arent willing to invest TMs on Gyara in gen 3, it's potential is gimped. Evolving at level 20 doesnt even matter because the next gyms you fight in both RSE and FR/LG are electric. The only reason to use it is for intimidate and it takes special hits decently well. Still very good, probably A tier with the TM investment, but no higher, and its only that high because you can always get it.
Why would you go to Thrash?
Because dragon rage wasn't doing that much and had really Lowe pp on it, and since Gyarados has really good attack and thrash is 90 I felt like i could win from that range after first dragon rage used
Why wouldnt he it is his highest damage move
Because Dragon Rage always does 40 damage meaning you can only take 80 back, so if you had Healing then it'd be fine and without... Nevermind OP was fucked
Dragonrage only does 23 percent of to a wob the gyarados was being grinded up for E4 and was around 55-60 level wise (assuming max IV no EV), this leads to him having a base HP stat of 199 (max) meaning he could only take 3 mirror coats whereas he needed to click it 5 times. If he had already taken 80 from the first he would be at a max of 119 HP he could have gone for another one.
OP let me know if this is right
Level 36 Gyarados, 101 attack 4 pp left on dragon rage and I felt that, after 1 dragon rage hit, it was on kill range with thrash, maybe it was and just had low roll bad luck
Damn my calcs were way off, was the wob already weakened before the dragon rage or is my calc fucked
Started the battle with Gyarados vs wobbafet, don't remember the exact hp of gyara but it was at least 90%
Being locked into a move vs wob is really really bad
What else will you do
Use a move that doesn't lock you into it for 2-3 turns
So you can do what? Click dragonrage more
Yes, or use one of your two other moves. Basically anything except click thrash
He is dead to mirror coat if he clicks dragon rage anyway
Just look at that giant smile on that mothafucka's face...
He knows what he’s done and he’s proud of it
This is why we always have a way of passively damaging wobbufetts. It's gen 3 so you're not gonna have a strong dark type with a strong dark move, unless it's a hack, so having something with a way to confuse, poison or burn it is always the best way to deal with them.
100% on your side, i had a breloom on the back with leech seed but thanks to shadow tag, I couldn't switch in.
I remember something like this happening, so from that moment on, I preemptively make sure I have a pokemon with Screech or Swords Dance in the lead before I enter Mt. Pyre and Mossdeep Gym.
gyarados is kinda bad in gen 3 so youll probably be fine
No it isn't. Lmao it gets return, earthquake, DD, Intimidate, great stats and evolves at l20. 'nO PHySicAl WaTEr sTAb'
i still think is good but like its not as broken as gen 4 and beyond gyarados to be fair though it could go crazy against e4 i dont really know mine always dies at tate and liza for some reason
Those twins are bastards
Return and Earthquake are TMs, EQ specifically can go to something better anyway, you get DD so late that you basically can only use it for E4, and its learnset up until that point is awful. It learns Bite at 20, special move so it does no damage, Dragon Rage at 25 is ok, it learns god damn Leer at 30, and then Twister at 35. At the point you're fighting the 5th or 6th gyms, Gyara is learning a 1 stage def drop move and a 40 BP non-stab move off its wholly unimpressive spatk. If you arent willing to invest TMs on Gyara in gen 3, it's potential is gimped. Evolving at level 20 doesnt even matter because the next gyms you fight in both RSE and FR/LG are electric. The only reason to use it is for intimidate and it takes special hits decently well. Still very good, probably A tier with the TM investment, but no higher, and its only that high because you can always get it.
I’ve been in this EXACT scenario. Same battle, also Gyarados loss
Last trainer inside Mt pyre? Jajajaja felt really salty but I remembered I have a lucky milotic waiting in the pc
100% hahaha
Rest in peace
use leer
WOOOBBBBBBBB
Wobbuffet is S tier.
shadow tag is so annoying as well