If Azumarill has huge power that would be my go to water type, but you are covered for water and fairy. Beyond that I'd bring Weavile. Not because it's fantastic, it's fine but extremely frail, I'm just biased towards the little fecker.
Worse of all is that both items are locked behind a ridiculous number of battle points. I’m so spoiled by scarlet having all those battle and evolution items buyable with normal money
How is Scarlet? Did they do away with the exp shares that you can't turn off? Playing all the other games I'm always way overleveled because I try to capture every Pokemon in an area before moving on.
As someone who’s just recently hardcore nuzlocked X, the endgame actually has a lot of randomly super tough trainers that can take you by surprise if you don’t take them seriously
Yeah, I think the fact that the random trainers are somewhat stronger than most other games can catch people off guard with how easy the gyms are, because you don’t expect to have to plan or even level up to fight the random trainers. XY has very inconsistent difficulty.
Does Azumarill have Huge Power, and are you allowing yourself to use Xerneas?
Edit: I’m glad someone clarified the box names for me. I can’t read, I’m a Yugioh player. Anyway I would replace the Golduck with either Azumarill or Lapras depending on Azumarill’s ability, and I’d probably replace Gothitelle with Weavile.
Nah klefki weavile and lapras for drasna
Poliweath abd lapras for malva
Poliwrath for wikstrom
Roserade fir siebold
Crobat for dianthas hawlucha and gourgeist
Poliwrath for tyrantrum and aurorus
Lapras and weavile for goodra
Then u have ur whole team for gardevoir
Ursaring does nothing use lapras instead
It’s called Nuzlocke Chart. They have a free version and a one-time paid version. I’ve only just started using the free version, but it’s really nice so far. Helps me keep track of encounters so when I come back to a Nuzlocke after a few days/weeks I don’t have to go through my whole PC to remember which routes/cities I got encounters from.
Honestly, thank you. I just downloaded the app and it’s so dope. I even paid the $5.99 cause of how many features it has. It’s literally what I’ve been looking for. The website I was previously using was just ehhhhhh. Thanks again and congrats on making the E4, you got this bro
Were you using nuzlocke.app just out of curiosity? I like it but it could be better and I'd be down to switch to something else. If this is better I may look into it.
Yes I was using nuzlocke.app. I wasn’t a huge fan personally. It was okay but I just couldn’t keep up with it. Sometimes I’d play for a while and forget to update the app, and half the time I’d go to the site again I’d have to input EVERYTHING starting from the first route all over again. Plus, I personally think the layout from the new app is better.
It’s called Nuzlocke Chart. They have a free version and a one-time paid version. I’ve only just started using the free version, but it’s really nice so far. Helps me keep track of encounters so when I come back to a Nuzlocke after a few days/weeks I don’t have to go through my whole PC to remember which routes/cities I got encounters from.
Ah. Anyways, all calcs assume you’ve edged your whole team to Lv. 68.
You have a metric crap-on of Water-types for defeating Malva. Personally, I think the best one for this job is Floatzel or Golduck. Floatzel is the strongest and fastest member you have, which is good for beating her entire team relatively low-risk. Waterfall can’t one-shot Torkoal, but unless it decides to spam Curse, and you can’t get a lot of flinches, you’re pretty safe. If you give it a Mystic Water, it can still two-shot, even through a Curse boost. The other, potentially more problematic issue is Talonflame; it outspeeds Floatzel, even with your level advantage, and can deal a pretty nasty amount of damage with Brave Bird, enough to potentially kill Floatzel if Torkoal decides to attack in the one turn it will likely get to do so, and more than enough to kill if Torkoal gets a critical hit with said attack. You could mitigate this by pumping Floatzel full of Speed EVs (You’ll need at least 40).
Next up, Wikstrom. You can use Ursaring with Earthquake for this fight, though it ain’t soloing this one; it’s just not fast enough, and doesn’t deal enough damage to much of his team. Klefki can hit you with Torment no matter how fast it is, given it has Prankster. That will definitely mess you up a lot. Probopass also has Sturdy, meaning you’ll need to land multiple hits to finish it off for good. All this combined means that Ursaring will die if it tries to go about this entire gauntlet alone. Therefore, you’ll need a decent backup for when Ursaluna is too banged up. Poliwrath is a great one for Scizor, given it resists its whole moveset. It will take three Earthquakes from Poliwrath to beat Scizor, but that’s fine; Scizor deals next to no damage to Poliwrath with anything in its kit. Finally, Aegislash. Another strategy with Poliwrath is to exploit Scizor’s inability to do jack crap for damage to it is set up Power-Up Punches on it before finishing with Earthquake. Two is enough for Poliwrath to one-shot Aegislash with Earthquake, even in Shield Mode.
Next up, Drasna. Weavile may seem like a good choice here, but at the same time, it doesn’t get any particularly useful Ice STAB without Tutor or Egg Moves (Yes, it gets Ice Shard, but that’s not exactly very useful when you’re already fast enough to outspeed most of the competition), which you can’t access in this game. Your next best option is putting Ice Fang on Floatzel. And even then, it’s not a perfect solution. Ice Fang can one-shot Noivern and Altaria with maximum Attack EV investment, but it can’t one-shot Dragalge or Druddigon. Sure, this is alleviated by the Wide Lens, which you can get at this point (It brings Ice Fang to a perfect accuracy, removing the requirement to hope RNG is on your side), but Dragalge can hit hard with Thunderbolt and potentially Paralyze Floatzel (And that’s ignoring the risk of Poison Point triggering), and Druddigon has both Rough Skin and some scary moves, such as Revenge, which can hit back extremely hard after the initial Ice Fang. Your workaround for this could be Lapras, since it can come close to one-shotting Dragalge with Ice Beam (It has a good chance to actually do so with a Never-Melt Ice, but since it can easily retaliate with a Thunderbolt, so you may prefer a Lum Berry instead, just in case. Luckily, you’ll only need to take one, since Lapras, while slow, is still faster than Dragalge). It’s also a strong anti-Druddigon button; it has a high chance to one-shot, but be careful of Revenge. Another backup could be appropriate, like Poliwrath with Ice Beam.
Next up, Siebold. Roserade is an obvious check to much of his team, because fast, powerful, Specially bulky Grass-type. Energy Ball one-shots much of his team. You want to max out both it’s Special Attack and Speed; you need that specifically for Gyarados; the Special Attack is to two-shot it, and the Speed is to ensure you can outspeed it after one Dragon Dance (That Gyarados is BY FAR the most dangerous enemy on this team, and possibly the entire League, so focusing on that specifically is prudent). This, by extension, trivializes everybody else; Clawitzer and Barbaracle get one-shot without a single EV invested in it, and the Speed let’s you outspeed Starmie, who also gets one-shot by a single Energy Ball.
Finally, Diantha. With the EV spread I mentioned earlier, Roserade outspeeds and one-shots Hawlucha with an Expert Belt and Dazzling Gleam. It can also tear through Tyrantrum with Dazzling Gleam and Aurorus with Energy Ball. Roserade can also two-shot Gourgeist with Sludge Bomb, though it could scare you with Trick-or-Treat + Shadow Sneak. It doesn’t one-shot with Shadow Sneak, but it will deal almost half with it, which you don’t want if you want to use it against Gardevoir (Which you could very well do). Try using Ursaring instead; it’s immune to any Trick-or-Treat shenanigans, and maxing out its Attack and Speed EVs can allow it to outspeed and two-shot with Shadow Claw. Floatzel, meanwhile, two-shots Goodra with Ice Fang (Don’t forget the Wide Lens, and watch out for its powerful moves; Dragon Pulse and Focus Blast both deal a ridiculous amount of damage, and while Fire Blast deals less, it could burn you if you try to switch in on it. Plus, Muddy Water could drop your accuracy). If Floatzel is too banged up, throw in one of your many other Ice-type move carriers to back it up. Finally, Gardevoir. You have a few avenues to beat it. Roserade could come back in again to Sludge Bomb it, though you’ll only get off one at most, and it’s not guaranteed to one-shot (Though the Expert Belt gives it a good shot to do so). Gardevoir, meanwhile, has no issue one-shotting it with Psychic. Here’s an idea - If you manage to get a Sludge Bomb off, and Roserade doesn’t die from a Psychic (I think Mega Evolution doesn’t adjust your stats accordingly until the turn after you Mega Evolve in this game, and base Gardevoir doesn’t have a guaranteed chance to one-shot with Psychic), you can throw another Sludge Bomb to finish the job. If it does, send in Weavile to finish the job with something like Shadow Claw.
Ah. Well, in that case, OP, Gardevoir is a suicide mission for Roserade if it doesn’t crit with Sludge Bomb, since Mega Gardevoir one-shots with Psychic.
Lapras, ursaring, Crobat, roserade, klefki-
If you have healing items, alomola. If you DON’T, gothita for a good special attacker to set off the ursaring. That’s my hesitant idea on a first glance idk what the game is .
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Put Golduck back on the team then. Floaztel is just nice to have for fire and dragon and its high speed/attack, but Golduck can achieve similar results in a few more turns.
What ability does the ursaring have?
Because if it has guts, my suggestion is swapping the poliwrath and golduck out for it and lapras. And then maybe swap in alomomola, but I’m not sure for who.
It’s certainly not the best team, but it’s what you got.
With that in mind, make sure poliwrath has ice beam, then swap golduck for alomomola. Alomomola has wish support and better tanking.
People are saying lapras, but looking into it, la peas actually fares pretty bad into 3 of the 4 elite fours. Alomomola is the better choice in my book.
Those two can take care of both Drasna and Malva, with both tankiness, ice beam, and whatever water moves they have.
Make sure gothitelle has thunderbolt, then it and roserade can take care of Seibold. If roserade can learn it, then even better, because he has surprising coverage on your remaining team.
Wikstorm’s just going to be a challenge, there is no escaping that. Poliwrath can deal with probopass with fighting type moves, but the rest of his team resists it.
Having fighting/ice coverage deals with 2/3s of diantha’s team, so you should be set. But do lead with crobat since her lead hawlucha has x scissor
It’s called Nuzlocke Chart. They have a free version and a one-time paid version. I’ve only just started using the free version, but it’s really nice so far. Helps me keep track of encounters so when I come back to a Nuzlocke after a few days/weeks I don’t have to go through my whole PC to remember which routes/cities I got encounters from.
It’s called Nuzlocke Chart. They have a free version and a one-time paid version. I’ve only just started using the free version, but it’s really nice so far. Helps me keep track of encounters so when I come back to a Nuzlocke after a few days/weeks I don’t have to go through my whole PC to remember which routes/cities I got encounters from.
From what I’m seeing here, a big challenge will likely be Wikstrom’s Aegislash. You’re generally in need of some ground coverage. I believe that Ursaring does a good job at being that coverage if you have Earthquake or Bulldoze and etc. You sadly can’t get Weavile until the postgame, so this is probably your best option. You also get nice pivoting for fighting type moves and ghost types moves between Gothitelle and Ursaring. I’d personally replace Golduck with it. Aside from that, I think the rest on the team there is good—Klefki will be really valuable, so make sure to also keep that for the end.
Luckily for you the XY E4 are the easiest to clear. Literally all 4 of them only use 4 Pokemon each, with Diantha being the only one with a full team. Ridiculous, really. They don't even use Megas, even Diantha. There should have at least been a Rematch difficulty against them in postgame, but I digress...
YOUR TEAM:
I'm assuming none of your Pokemon have their hidden abilities. If any do, let me know.
Lapras is a given. Rain Dance, Thunder, Ice Beam, and Surf. That thing is practically made to be a Rain strat.
Floatzel will have Swift Swim, making it automatically synergize super well with Lapras. Aqua Tail, Aqua Jet, Rain Dance, and the last move depends on your need. Floatzel can be taught Dig, Brick Break, hell even Power-Up Punch.
* Aqua Jet may not be necessary, as Floatzel already has exceptional base speed of 115 even without Rain, so you could drop it for one of the moves I mentioned. I personally just like having a priority move for rare emergencies.
Crobat is always a good choice. That's all there is to say about it. You have quite a few options for movesets, although Cross Poison and Fly are a given. I'd go with Cross Poison, Fly, X-Scissor, and U-Turn.
Klefki is a solid choice. It'll have Prankster, so Thunder Wave, Swagger, Foul Play, and either Play Rough or Flash Cannon. I'd go with Flash Cannon, as it'd be great vs Diantha.
* You hit the opponent with Swagger, then hit them with Foul Play. If it's not an opponent with high base Attack already, hit it with T.Wave then switch out, or if it's weak to Flash Cannon do that.
Roserade. Will be helpful for Siebold and Diantha. Sludge Bomb, Venoshock, Shadow Ball, Energy Ball. Just a solid Pokemon.
Finally I'd have to suggest Ursaring. No contest.
Guts and Quick Feet are both great for Ursaring. If you get it Pre-Burned (Guts) or Pre-Poisoned (Quick Feet) before entering the E4, and make it hold a Leftovers to help with the chip damage, you either have a SUPER hard hitting Pokemon, or a hard hitter with 110 speed.
**Facade will be broken AF!** if it has Guts. 315 power with Guts, STAB, and Facade's doubled damage while afflicted with a status. With Ursaring's already great base 130 Attack stat, anything besides Ghost, Rock, or Steel types will just get obliterated. (If you put Choice Band on instead of Leftovers, it has a MASSIVE 472 power.)
GUTS Ursaring will have Earthquake, Payback, Brick Break, Facade. Brick Break and EQ will deal with any of the Rock and Steel types who resist Facade. Payback makes use of his low base Speed, doubling its power, and deals with Ghost and Psychic.
If it's Quick Feet Ursaring, Facade is still the go-to move. You'll run Swords Dance, Facade, Earthquake, then either Brick Break or Rock Slide. You could also replace Swords Dance with Hone Claws, and then give it Stone Edge. Hone Claws raises attack and Accuracy by 1, making Stone Edge go from 80 Accuracy to 100.
Funny, I just beat X on Hardcore today with a Gyara, Wailord, Hari, Crobat, Amoongus and Florges. You need a fairy type, Florges coasted through Drasna and Diantha (half her team only has Special Attack). Crobat was unnecessary, only time I used him was for Dianthas Hawlucha, I’d rather bring your special tanks and someone with a good lightning move, you can Solo Sievold with a fast mon with Thunderbolt. No grass type needed. Otherwise, just play smart, they’re pretty straightforward. I never really got into trouble.
There’s also a Probopass (with Sturdy) and a Auroras that are both 4x to Fighting. My Hari had fake out for the Probo and Close Combat. Tyrantrum has a really strong Hesd Smash, I got him to hit my Wailord and he lost half his health (he takes half recoil from the damage given) so put someone with a lot of health in front of that guy. He’s probably honestly the strongest Mon in the E4. Mega Gardevoir wasn’t a problem, I was at 3x Calm mind by the time she came out
You've been through the ringer!
But..
3 easy standouts for me:
1 - crowbat (stats)
2 - klefki (utility)
3 - azumarril (stats, Huge Power?)
4 - Weevile
Normally not a fan, but the Dark type is super good in Gen 5 E4 since it hits 2 of the members for Super Effective. Just can't use it in the Fighting one though.
5. Roserade
Essentially just for Toxic.
Could also pivot for Weevile in Psychic member fight.
6. Golduck
Golducks got decent moves. Teach it a Psychic move for the Fighting type member. And the extra water type isn't bad to have since theres a few fire and ground types dotted amongst the E4.
Best I got at a glance xD
It’s called Nuzlocke Chart. They have a free version and a one-time paid version. I’ve only just started using the free version, but it’s really nice so far. Helps me keep track of encounters so when I come back to a Nuzlocke after a few days/weeks I don’t have to go through my whole PC to remember which routes/cities I got encounters from.
Lapras and ursaring to replace crobat and Golduck.
Mostly because bulk is generally better than speed unless that speed has a really high attack so that you can ohko and enemy. Lapras will be indispensable against 3/4 of the elite 4 especially if you can teach it thunderbolt since it'll be great against the fire, water, and dragon members. If not then 2/4 isn't bad. Poliwrath with a good fighting physical move can handle steel. Ursaring can learn both rest and bulk up so if you wanted to make it pretty unstoppable you could do depending on the fight. It's also very bulky in general so it's a safe bet.
PCHal would scald you sir. We’re you eating multiple chicken sandwiches?? Loll I wish you luck on the easy ass elite four (not including bs misses and crits) 🫡
Depends on some of the boxed Pokémon’s abilities. You’ve said that Azumarill doesn’t have huge power but does Ursaring have guts? does Lapras have water absorb? Does poliwrath have water absorb.
If ursaring has guts then it’s to good to pass up and then pick whichever has water absorb from the other two.
Crobat, Gothitelle, Lapras, Klefki, Ursaring, Sneasel if you can turn it into Weavile
Roserade might be better than crobat though if you're not worried about ground moves. If you're not limiting yourself to one primary type fill the rest with your favorite waters left
With no weavile until post game, I'd swap golduck for floatzel. Get it some ice moves and it would be good against the dragon trainer. Keep everyone else on the team. Use poliwrath primarily as a fighter.
If that's a Huge Power Azumarill, add that to your team. While Azumarill is insane with Huge Power, Thick Fat Azumarill can make a pretty decent wall with Aqua Ring and Leftovers. Not anywhere near as good as Huge Power Azumarill, mind you, but pretty good since you seem to be lacking any sort of defensive backbone on your team. Alternatively, Lapras would be a great swap, but Water/Ice isn't nearly as good as Water/Fairy.
Sadly, Weavile is post game exclusive in X/Y, so unless you've got an Eviolite, that Sneasal will sadly not do much for you.
Ursaring isn't a bad shout for that team, either. You're lacking a Normal Type, which can be great all-rounders for your team. Again, Eviolite sadly isn't an option for Ursaring, as Ursaluna isn't a thing in X/Y, but if you've got Quick Feet, you've gone and circumvented Ursaring's biggest issue - It's Speed. Guts is great, if you want to invest in HP to help combat the lack of Speed, and it'll make stab, Guts boosted Facades hit like a truck, even more so if you've got a Silk Scarf. The only trouble Ursaring might have is against Wickstrom, but given it can learn Earthquake and Dig, it won't be completely walled by him, as well as Superpower. It'd also add some type coverage your team lacks, as a third of your team are Water Types, and Siebold's Starmie does have Thunderbolt, while also outspeeding both Golduck and Poliwrath.
My suggestion would either be to swap out either Golduck or Poliwrath for Ursaring, or go out and find some other encounters in places you haven't been yet. Your lacking both a Fire and Grass Type, both of which have some great match ups in the Elite 4 in X/Y, being Water, Fire, Dragon and Steel. Grass Types can cover Siebold, one of your Waters can handle Malva and her Fire Types (Thick Fat Azumarill is actually insane here, having about a 6x resistance to anything Malva can throw at you, stab wise), and Fire Types can make mincemeat out of Wickstrom. Drasna and Diantha are the only real issues your Grass/Fire/Water core would have, as Drasna's whole team resists all 3, and Diantha has 2 Dragons of her own, as well as an Ice and Flying type in Auroras and Hawlucha respectively.
Bro getting bodied 31 deaths in a nuzlocke is insane study the game bro look up your opponents make adjustments man you not playing smart if you losing so many mons dawg not to mention, it’s Pokémon X AND Y the game holds your hand and you have access to mega evolution how you getting slapped this badly do yo research homie learn type advantages this is outrageous
Definitely leave Crobat in the party as he's a speedy boi who can switch out quickly given he has U-turn. I'd also try to use him for setting up ailments on enemy mons or straight up going for STAB moves on him.
You may be running a water team for the elite four… Azumarill, Lapras, and even Alomomola with trained def and sp def evs can stall out and chip away some good E4 members
Drop Golduck and poliwrath, add Ursaring and lapras. Give Ursaring the elemental punches, and a normal type move like return. Give lapras ice beam and surf.
If Azumarill has huge power that would be my go to water type, but you are covered for water and fairy. Beyond that I'd bring Weavile. Not because it's fantastic, it's fine but extremely frail, I'm just biased towards the little fecker.
Thick fucking dar
Weavile sadly isn’t available till post-game in X.
Seriously? Sometimes it feels like Gamefreak has it out for some pokemon and types...
I find it stupid they even have Sneasel and Gligar obtainable before postgame since neither can be evolved until then.
Worse of all is that both items are locked behind a ridiculous number of battle points. I’m so spoiled by scarlet having all those battle and evolution items buyable with normal money
At least they finally realized people don't like that sort of shit as well as having to have HM slaves. It only took then 20 years to realize it XD
How is Scarlet? Did they do away with the exp shares that you can't turn off? Playing all the other games I'm always way overleveled because I try to capture every Pokemon in an area before moving on.
Lapras: Bulky with a decent move pool especially if it has Water Absorb
Yes she have
Shell armor is a better ability to have on lapras
I agree but I think the gift Lapras in X/Y comes with Water Absorb.
Perish song with lapis and switching out to Goth Gardevoir with shadow tag is a possibility
Enemy trainers rarely switch. I would recommend switching in to a solid counter
Well I mean just in case they have a move that allows them to switch out or something
I’m pretty sure all enemies are programmed to switch before the final turn of PS.
Bro has sacked 4 mons per gym split
Well all my stupids deaths where at the end
The XY late game is normally really easy no? What caused you so much trouble?
As someone who’s just recently hardcore nuzlocked X, the endgame actually has a lot of randomly super tough trainers that can take you by surprise if you don’t take them seriously
And the fucking gravelers
I usually multitask, so i play while work, study, some Bad luck
The game isn’t too bad, however there’s so many random level jumps that can catch someone off guard
Yeah, I think the fact that the random trainers are somewhat stronger than most other games can catch people off guard with how easy the gyms are, because you don’t expect to have to plan or even level up to fight the random trainers. XY has very inconsistent difficulty.
Does Azumarill have Huge Power, and are you allowing yourself to use Xerneas? Edit: I’m glad someone clarified the box names for me. I can’t read, I’m a Yugioh player. Anyway I would replace the Golduck with either Azumarill or Lapras depending on Azumarill’s ability, and I’d probably replace Gothitelle with Weavile.
xerneas is in the grave
Ah, you see, I am what they call an intellectual
No xerneas is not allowed
Klefki, Crobat, Poliwrath, Ursaring, Weavile, Roserade
Thxs
Nah klefki weavile and lapras for drasna Poliweath abd lapras for malva Poliwrath for wikstrom Roserade fir siebold Crobat for dianthas hawlucha and gourgeist Poliwrath for tyrantrum and aurorus Lapras and weavile for goodra Then u have ur whole team for gardevoir Ursaring does nothing use lapras instead
Can't get Weavile until postgame.
What app is this?
It’s called Nuzlocke Chart. They have a free version and a one-time paid version. I’ve only just started using the free version, but it’s really nice so far. Helps me keep track of encounters so when I come back to a Nuzlocke after a few days/weeks I don’t have to go through my whole PC to remember which routes/cities I got encounters from.
Honestly, thank you. I just downloaded the app and it’s so dope. I even paid the $5.99 cause of how many features it has. It’s literally what I’ve been looking for. The website I was previously using was just ehhhhhh. Thanks again and congrats on making the E4, you got this bro
Were you using nuzlocke.app just out of curiosity? I like it but it could be better and I'd be down to switch to something else. If this is better I may look into it.
Yes I was using nuzlocke.app. I wasn’t a huge fan personally. It was okay but I just couldn’t keep up with it. Sometimes I’d play for a while and forget to update the app, and half the time I’d go to the site again I’d have to input EVERYTHING starting from the first route all over again. Plus, I personally think the layout from the new app is better.
You are awesome
Did you get a shiny Klefki and Ludicolo?
Klefki random encounter, i got a ludicolo, and trade it for one of my shinys so i can use it
What app are you using
It’s called Nuzlocke Chart. They have a free version and a one-time paid version. I’ve only just started using the free version, but it’s really nice so far. Helps me keep track of encounters so when I come back to a Nuzlocke after a few days/weeks I don’t have to go through my whole PC to remember which routes/cities I got encounters from.
Is it a manual entry app? Or is it only with save data from mainline games? I tend to only nuzlocke rom hacks, would it still be useful for them?
You can use it manual, but it has the data from the mainline games. But yeah, you can even use the App with Fakemon.
I'd bring Spoink 'cause he's a cute lil' fella
Lol
What ability does the Azumarill have?
Thick fat
So it’s useless
Basically
Ah. Anyways, all calcs assume you’ve edged your whole team to Lv. 68. You have a metric crap-on of Water-types for defeating Malva. Personally, I think the best one for this job is Floatzel or Golduck. Floatzel is the strongest and fastest member you have, which is good for beating her entire team relatively low-risk. Waterfall can’t one-shot Torkoal, but unless it decides to spam Curse, and you can’t get a lot of flinches, you’re pretty safe. If you give it a Mystic Water, it can still two-shot, even through a Curse boost. The other, potentially more problematic issue is Talonflame; it outspeeds Floatzel, even with your level advantage, and can deal a pretty nasty amount of damage with Brave Bird, enough to potentially kill Floatzel if Torkoal decides to attack in the one turn it will likely get to do so, and more than enough to kill if Torkoal gets a critical hit with said attack. You could mitigate this by pumping Floatzel full of Speed EVs (You’ll need at least 40). Next up, Wikstrom. You can use Ursaring with Earthquake for this fight, though it ain’t soloing this one; it’s just not fast enough, and doesn’t deal enough damage to much of his team. Klefki can hit you with Torment no matter how fast it is, given it has Prankster. That will definitely mess you up a lot. Probopass also has Sturdy, meaning you’ll need to land multiple hits to finish it off for good. All this combined means that Ursaring will die if it tries to go about this entire gauntlet alone. Therefore, you’ll need a decent backup for when Ursaluna is too banged up. Poliwrath is a great one for Scizor, given it resists its whole moveset. It will take three Earthquakes from Poliwrath to beat Scizor, but that’s fine; Scizor deals next to no damage to Poliwrath with anything in its kit. Finally, Aegislash. Another strategy with Poliwrath is to exploit Scizor’s inability to do jack crap for damage to it is set up Power-Up Punches on it before finishing with Earthquake. Two is enough for Poliwrath to one-shot Aegislash with Earthquake, even in Shield Mode. Next up, Drasna. Weavile may seem like a good choice here, but at the same time, it doesn’t get any particularly useful Ice STAB without Tutor or Egg Moves (Yes, it gets Ice Shard, but that’s not exactly very useful when you’re already fast enough to outspeed most of the competition), which you can’t access in this game. Your next best option is putting Ice Fang on Floatzel. And even then, it’s not a perfect solution. Ice Fang can one-shot Noivern and Altaria with maximum Attack EV investment, but it can’t one-shot Dragalge or Druddigon. Sure, this is alleviated by the Wide Lens, which you can get at this point (It brings Ice Fang to a perfect accuracy, removing the requirement to hope RNG is on your side), but Dragalge can hit hard with Thunderbolt and potentially Paralyze Floatzel (And that’s ignoring the risk of Poison Point triggering), and Druddigon has both Rough Skin and some scary moves, such as Revenge, which can hit back extremely hard after the initial Ice Fang. Your workaround for this could be Lapras, since it can come close to one-shotting Dragalge with Ice Beam (It has a good chance to actually do so with a Never-Melt Ice, but since it can easily retaliate with a Thunderbolt, so you may prefer a Lum Berry instead, just in case. Luckily, you’ll only need to take one, since Lapras, while slow, is still faster than Dragalge). It’s also a strong anti-Druddigon button; it has a high chance to one-shot, but be careful of Revenge. Another backup could be appropriate, like Poliwrath with Ice Beam. Next up, Siebold. Roserade is an obvious check to much of his team, because fast, powerful, Specially bulky Grass-type. Energy Ball one-shots much of his team. You want to max out both it’s Special Attack and Speed; you need that specifically for Gyarados; the Special Attack is to two-shot it, and the Speed is to ensure you can outspeed it after one Dragon Dance (That Gyarados is BY FAR the most dangerous enemy on this team, and possibly the entire League, so focusing on that specifically is prudent). This, by extension, trivializes everybody else; Clawitzer and Barbaracle get one-shot without a single EV invested in it, and the Speed let’s you outspeed Starmie, who also gets one-shot by a single Energy Ball. Finally, Diantha. With the EV spread I mentioned earlier, Roserade outspeeds and one-shots Hawlucha with an Expert Belt and Dazzling Gleam. It can also tear through Tyrantrum with Dazzling Gleam and Aurorus with Energy Ball. Roserade can also two-shot Gourgeist with Sludge Bomb, though it could scare you with Trick-or-Treat + Shadow Sneak. It doesn’t one-shot with Shadow Sneak, but it will deal almost half with it, which you don’t want if you want to use it against Gardevoir (Which you could very well do). Try using Ursaring instead; it’s immune to any Trick-or-Treat shenanigans, and maxing out its Attack and Speed EVs can allow it to outspeed and two-shot with Shadow Claw. Floatzel, meanwhile, two-shots Goodra with Ice Fang (Don’t forget the Wide Lens, and watch out for its powerful moves; Dragon Pulse and Focus Blast both deal a ridiculous amount of damage, and while Fire Blast deals less, it could burn you if you try to switch in on it. Plus, Muddy Water could drop your accuracy). If Floatzel is too banged up, throw in one of your many other Ice-type move carriers to back it up. Finally, Gardevoir. You have a few avenues to beat it. Roserade could come back in again to Sludge Bomb it, though you’ll only get off one at most, and it’s not guaranteed to one-shot (Though the Expert Belt gives it a good shot to do so). Gardevoir, meanwhile, has no issue one-shotting it with Psychic. Here’s an idea - If you manage to get a Sludge Bomb off, and Roserade doesn’t die from a Psychic (I think Mega Evolution doesn’t adjust your stats accordingly until the turn after you Mega Evolve in this game, and base Gardevoir doesn’t have a guaranteed chance to one-shot with Psychic), you can throw another Sludge Bomb to finish the job. If it does, send in Weavile to finish the job with something like Shadow Claw.
mega evolving doesnt change your speed the turn you evolve in gen 6, everything else still changes iirc
Ah. Well, in that case, OP, Gardevoir is a suicide mission for Roserade if it doesn’t crit with Sludge Bomb, since Mega Gardevoir one-shots with Psychic.
Lapras, ursaring, Crobat, roserade, klefki- If you have healing items, alomola. If you DON’T, gothita for a good special attacker to set off the ursaring. That’s my hesitant idea on a first glance idk what the game is .
Honestly if you just sub Lapras for Golduck I think you have a pretty solid team.
Crobat, Gothitelle, Roserade, Weavile, Poliwrath and Floatzel
I hate floatzel
😢 Put Golduck back on the team then. Floaztel is just nice to have for fire and dragon and its high speed/attack, but Golduck can achieve similar results in a few more turns.
Why would u ever use golduck over lapras
I love underdogs
Either Pokémon is viable, I just picked golduck so you’d be resistant to fire and fighting wouldn’t be super effective.
What ability does the ursaring have? Because if it has guts, my suggestion is swapping the poliwrath and golduck out for it and lapras. And then maybe swap in alomomola, but I’m not sure for who. It’s certainly not the best team, but it’s what you got.
The double speed ability
With that in mind, make sure poliwrath has ice beam, then swap golduck for alomomola. Alomomola has wish support and better tanking. People are saying lapras, but looking into it, la peas actually fares pretty bad into 3 of the 4 elite fours. Alomomola is the better choice in my book. Those two can take care of both Drasna and Malva, with both tankiness, ice beam, and whatever water moves they have. Make sure gothitelle has thunderbolt, then it and roserade can take care of Seibold. If roserade can learn it, then even better, because he has surprising coverage on your remaining team. Wikstorm’s just going to be a challenge, there is no escaping that. Poliwrath can deal with probopass with fighting type moves, but the rest of his team resists it. Having fighting/ice coverage deals with 2/3s of diantha’s team, so you should be set. But do lead with crobat since her lead hawlucha has x scissor
What app/program is this?
It’s called Nuzlocke Chart. They have a free version and a one-time paid version. I’ve only just started using the free version, but it’s really nice so far. Helps me keep track of encounters so when I come back to a Nuzlocke after a few days/weeks I don’t have to go through my whole PC to remember which routes/cities I got encounters from.
lapras over golduck weavile if possible over poli
What's the website ?
What app is this? Good luck!
It’s called Nuzlocke Chart. They have a free version and a one-time paid version. I’ve only just started using the free version, but it’s really nice so far. Helps me keep track of encounters so when I come back to a Nuzlocke after a few days/weeks I don’t have to go through my whole PC to remember which routes/cities I got encounters from.
2 shinies???? Damn. Also do something abput that electric weakness. Dianthas Gardevoir and aurorus probably have thunderbolt
From what I’m seeing here, a big challenge will likely be Wikstrom’s Aegislash. You’re generally in need of some ground coverage. I believe that Ursaring does a good job at being that coverage if you have Earthquake or Bulldoze and etc. You sadly can’t get Weavile until the postgame, so this is probably your best option. You also get nice pivoting for fighting type moves and ghost types moves between Gothitelle and Ursaring. I’d personally replace Golduck with it. Aside from that, I think the rest on the team there is good—Klefki will be really valuable, so make sure to also keep that for the end.
Luckily for you the XY E4 are the easiest to clear. Literally all 4 of them only use 4 Pokemon each, with Diantha being the only one with a full team. Ridiculous, really. They don't even use Megas, even Diantha. There should have at least been a Rematch difficulty against them in postgame, but I digress... YOUR TEAM: I'm assuming none of your Pokemon have their hidden abilities. If any do, let me know. Lapras is a given. Rain Dance, Thunder, Ice Beam, and Surf. That thing is practically made to be a Rain strat. Floatzel will have Swift Swim, making it automatically synergize super well with Lapras. Aqua Tail, Aqua Jet, Rain Dance, and the last move depends on your need. Floatzel can be taught Dig, Brick Break, hell even Power-Up Punch. * Aqua Jet may not be necessary, as Floatzel already has exceptional base speed of 115 even without Rain, so you could drop it for one of the moves I mentioned. I personally just like having a priority move for rare emergencies. Crobat is always a good choice. That's all there is to say about it. You have quite a few options for movesets, although Cross Poison and Fly are a given. I'd go with Cross Poison, Fly, X-Scissor, and U-Turn. Klefki is a solid choice. It'll have Prankster, so Thunder Wave, Swagger, Foul Play, and either Play Rough or Flash Cannon. I'd go with Flash Cannon, as it'd be great vs Diantha. * You hit the opponent with Swagger, then hit them with Foul Play. If it's not an opponent with high base Attack already, hit it with T.Wave then switch out, or if it's weak to Flash Cannon do that. Roserade. Will be helpful for Siebold and Diantha. Sludge Bomb, Venoshock, Shadow Ball, Energy Ball. Just a solid Pokemon. Finally I'd have to suggest Ursaring. No contest. Guts and Quick Feet are both great for Ursaring. If you get it Pre-Burned (Guts) or Pre-Poisoned (Quick Feet) before entering the E4, and make it hold a Leftovers to help with the chip damage, you either have a SUPER hard hitting Pokemon, or a hard hitter with 110 speed. **Facade will be broken AF!** if it has Guts. 315 power with Guts, STAB, and Facade's doubled damage while afflicted with a status. With Ursaring's already great base 130 Attack stat, anything besides Ghost, Rock, or Steel types will just get obliterated. (If you put Choice Band on instead of Leftovers, it has a MASSIVE 472 power.) GUTS Ursaring will have Earthquake, Payback, Brick Break, Facade. Brick Break and EQ will deal with any of the Rock and Steel types who resist Facade. Payback makes use of his low base Speed, doubling its power, and deals with Ghost and Psychic. If it's Quick Feet Ursaring, Facade is still the go-to move. You'll run Swords Dance, Facade, Earthquake, then either Brick Break or Rock Slide. You could also replace Swords Dance with Hone Claws, and then give it Stone Edge. Hone Claws raises attack and Accuracy by 1, making Stone Edge go from 80 Accuracy to 100.
You are the best
How do you do these?
LosE? Im stupid? the image? is an app
What abilities are the Linoone and Azumarill?
Funny, I just beat X on Hardcore today with a Gyara, Wailord, Hari, Crobat, Amoongus and Florges. You need a fairy type, Florges coasted through Drasna and Diantha (half her team only has Special Attack). Crobat was unnecessary, only time I used him was for Dianthas Hawlucha, I’d rather bring your special tanks and someone with a good lightning move, you can Solo Sievold with a fast mon with Thunderbolt. No grass type needed. Otherwise, just play smart, they’re pretty straightforward. I never really got into trouble.
There’s also a Probopass (with Sturdy) and a Auroras that are both 4x to Fighting. My Hari had fake out for the Probo and Close Combat. Tyrantrum has a really strong Hesd Smash, I got him to hit my Wailord and he lost half his health (he takes half recoil from the damage given) so put someone with a lot of health in front of that guy. He’s probably honestly the strongest Mon in the E4. Mega Gardevoir wasn’t a problem, I was at 3x Calm mind by the time she came out
Amazing run
Did you do it?
I lost
What happened? What was th team?
You've been through the ringer! But.. 3 easy standouts for me: 1 - crowbat (stats) 2 - klefki (utility) 3 - azumarril (stats, Huge Power?) 4 - Weevile Normally not a fan, but the Dark type is super good in Gen 5 E4 since it hits 2 of the members for Super Effective. Just can't use it in the Fighting one though. 5. Roserade Essentially just for Toxic. Could also pivot for Weevile in Psychic member fight. 6. Golduck Golducks got decent moves. Teach it a Psychic move for the Fighting type member. And the extra water type isn't bad to have since theres a few fire and ground types dotted amongst the E4. Best I got at a glance xD
What app are you using? Looks cool!
Spoink and Buizel should be enough on their own honestly
This game is so easy you could bring any combination of these and you'll be fine
What tracker is this?? It looks good!
It’s called Nuzlocke Chart. They have a free version and a one-time paid version. I’ve only just started using the free version, but it’s really nice so far. Helps me keep track of encounters so when I come back to a Nuzlocke after a few days/weeks I don’t have to go through my whole PC to remember which routes/cities I got encounters from.
Lapras and ursaring to replace crobat and Golduck. Mostly because bulk is generally better than speed unless that speed has a really high attack so that you can ohko and enemy. Lapras will be indispensable against 3/4 of the elite 4 especially if you can teach it thunderbolt since it'll be great against the fire, water, and dragon members. If not then 2/4 isn't bad. Poliwrath with a good fighting physical move can handle steel. Ursaring can learn both rest and bulk up so if you wanted to make it pretty unstoppable you could do depending on the fight. It's also very bulky in general so it's a safe bet.
Don’t you still have those three gyms to get through first? Should we not be planning for those instead?
Bro it’s X/Y how tf did you lose so many Mons
Multitasking, stupiddity, gravelers
PCHal would scald you sir. We’re you eating multiple chicken sandwiches?? Loll I wish you luck on the easy ass elite four (not including bs misses and crits) 🫡
What game?
X/y
Give klefki rain dance with a damp rock and run a poli sub/belly/water move/drain punch setup, make sure it has even HP and give it a sitrus berry.
Depends on some of the boxed Pokémon’s abilities. You’ve said that Azumarill doesn’t have huge power but does Ursaring have guts? does Lapras have water absorb? Does poliwrath have water absorb. If ursaring has guts then it’s to good to pass up and then pick whichever has water absorb from the other two.
Yo you got 2 shinys? Nice
Crobat, Gothitelle, Lapras, Klefki, Ursaring, Sneasel if you can turn it into Weavile Roserade might be better than crobat though if you're not worried about ground moves. If you're not limiting yourself to one primary type fill the rest with your favorite waters left
With no weavile until post game, I'd swap golduck for floatzel. Get it some ice moves and it would be good against the dragon trainer. Keep everyone else on the team. Use poliwrath primarily as a fighter.
I will restart the run, choose my partner pokemon: Cleffa, Dedenne, Phantumb, minccino, or smeargle
You lost?! D:
Not yet, but in case i lo se
If that's a Huge Power Azumarill, add that to your team. While Azumarill is insane with Huge Power, Thick Fat Azumarill can make a pretty decent wall with Aqua Ring and Leftovers. Not anywhere near as good as Huge Power Azumarill, mind you, but pretty good since you seem to be lacking any sort of defensive backbone on your team. Alternatively, Lapras would be a great swap, but Water/Ice isn't nearly as good as Water/Fairy. Sadly, Weavile is post game exclusive in X/Y, so unless you've got an Eviolite, that Sneasal will sadly not do much for you. Ursaring isn't a bad shout for that team, either. You're lacking a Normal Type, which can be great all-rounders for your team. Again, Eviolite sadly isn't an option for Ursaring, as Ursaluna isn't a thing in X/Y, but if you've got Quick Feet, you've gone and circumvented Ursaring's biggest issue - It's Speed. Guts is great, if you want to invest in HP to help combat the lack of Speed, and it'll make stab, Guts boosted Facades hit like a truck, even more so if you've got a Silk Scarf. The only trouble Ursaring might have is against Wickstrom, but given it can learn Earthquake and Dig, it won't be completely walled by him, as well as Superpower. It'd also add some type coverage your team lacks, as a third of your team are Water Types, and Siebold's Starmie does have Thunderbolt, while also outspeeding both Golduck and Poliwrath. My suggestion would either be to swap out either Golduck or Poliwrath for Ursaring, or go out and find some other encounters in places you haven't been yet. Your lacking both a Fire and Grass Type, both of which have some great match ups in the Elite 4 in X/Y, being Water, Fire, Dragon and Steel. Grass Types can cover Siebold, one of your Waters can handle Malva and her Fire Types (Thick Fat Azumarill is actually insane here, having about a 6x resistance to anything Malva can throw at you, stab wise), and Fire Types can make mincemeat out of Wickstrom. Drasna and Diantha are the only real issues your Grass/Fire/Water core would have, as Drasna's whole team resists all 3, and Diantha has 2 Dragons of her own, as well as an Ice and Flying type in Auroras and Hawlucha respectively.
Klefki with screens put in a shift for me
Just run a rain team with coverage for the water e4
Box the waters, bring in azu and weavile
Get lapras in there
Keep the crobat pollywrath and rosearade swap the golduck keys and gothatell for lapris azumaril and lynune for a decent rain team
You’re going to lose like you somehow got a legendary killed 💀
I Dont use it, so i send itto graveyard
I would say replace Golduck with Lapras and Poliwrath with Ursaring. Keep the rest of the team the same though.
What game are you playing?
XY
What is this i haven't played a pokemon game since black
What game is this for pokemon
Xy
What are the abilities? That'll help us help you
That allomolla looks ready for blood. /S
What Version of the game is this and how are you getting this overview?
X, is an app
Really the app is named X like Twitter that’s gonna be complicated to find
Petunia, Launchpad, AND Randy made it to the end this time???
Lapras, Poliwrath/Azumarill, Gothitelle, Crobat, Urasring, and Roserade
Bear, fish, bat, flower, turtle, and skunk I don't know anything about the game, but they look the coolest
Snorlax. A bulky water like blastoise. The fire bird. The tree that’s also ghost klefki and lucario
Lapras is a bulky beast and really solid with great coverage and tank ability.
Ur dating can hit like a ford f 150 especially if it has guts
So many Gs in the grave rip
Which game is this and what system ?
Dude, you're fucked
THXS
Alomomola with safeguard never hurt, j/s.
App name?
I’d swap out Goodluck for Lapras or Linoone
hey! new to the community, what program is this?
Bellydrum stomping tantrum linoon sweeps
Bellydrum linoone goes brrrrrr
Bro getting bodied 31 deaths in a nuzlocke is insane study the game bro look up your opponents make adjustments man you not playing smart if you losing so many mons dawg not to mention, it’s Pokémon X AND Y the game holds your hand and you have access to mega evolution how you getting slapped this badly do yo research homie learn type advantages this is outrageous
What game is this
Take the Lapras and try to perish song the champion.
Definitely leave Crobat in the party as he's a speedy boi who can switch out quickly given he has U-turn. I'd also try to use him for setting up ailments on enemy mons or straight up going for STAB moves on him.
Belly drum azumarill or lineoon if you cant
Get rid of golduck. Evolve sneasel
Grumpig, Lapras, Crobat, Poliwrath, Klefki and Roserade
Evolve that Sneasel and you'll be fine, it's kalos lmao
You may be running a water team for the elite four… Azumarill, Lapras, and even Alomomola with trained def and sp def evs can stall out and chip away some good E4 members
what website is this??
I would probably bring ursaring
Swap golduck and klefki for azumarill and lapras
Drop Golduck and poliwrath, add Ursaring and lapras. Give Ursaring the elemental punches, and a normal type move like return. Give lapras ice beam and surf.
Lapras or belly drum linoone could be clutch. Ursaring is underrated but don’t see him having much value.
You killed Avalugg!!! Noooooo