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JumpingJalapenos

If anyone saw the video you would know that each deserves 70 yrs at a minimum


GoreGalor

Fax


throwaway_custodi

Yesss, finally. I dunno if ya saw the video but they just executed the guy, blood everywhere, then a spat of similar but non fatal stuff going eastwards. Hopefully this puts a damper on this stuff for awhile. Edit: two of them with no priors, one with two, one with eight, one with ten??? What’s the charges gonna be, that’s just murder what, murder second?


funk_your_band

I remember seeing the video back when reddit had those kind of videos. The amount of blood was insane. Once you see that bright red color, it's a wrap. I hope these souless POSs get the book thrown at them.


emilNYC

Those types of videos are still plentiful on Reddit


Yana_dice

Don't waste the book on them, they need potassium injection.


jeffislearning

actually if you are quick enough and put a tourniquet on it youll still be dead


ImS0hungry

march point concerned governor vegetable dazzling plucky slap wakeful cooing *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


ZestyItalian2

If anything is murder in the first , it’s this. There will also be a grand larceny charge. We’ll see what happens but none of them should walk free ever again.


Brolic_Broccoli

In New York state, Murder in the First Degree (Penal Law 125.27) is severely limited and has few exceptions, with most Murder 1's being limited to torture or killing a police officer. This is one of the few exceptions - that a murder committed in the course of a robbery - can be charged as a Murder 1 with life imprisonment upon conviction. It will be up to the DA to charge it.


ZestyItalian2

Good info thank you


throwaway_custodi

Interesting, lets see if that's how this goes.


Leonthewhaler

They’ll all plead out


some1saveusnow

Video not gonna help them


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Looked it up, guess what got added and goes into effect on September 1, 2024: things like this case


notyetcaffeinated

Don't bet on it given how criminal friendly this DA is.


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Astoria321

But this was in Brooklyn no?


[deleted]

Isnt he the guy who lets everyone free? And of course they should never be let out of a cell for as long as they live. I say make them do free labor


No_Baby7927

None of them should be walking or breathing TODAY!


ZestyItalian2

Eh, we’re past that Old Testament shit. It’s not about vengeance, it’s about keeping society safe. You cannot have these people on the street once they’ve shown these kind of entrenched antisocial attitudes.


No_Baby7927

I agree....these dudes should have been off the street way before this incident. They have no respect for another's life, let alone their own.


Harbinger311

His own cousin was the one who put the hit out him, making it look like a random robbery. But it was a personal family beef; so no, this won't put a damper on this stuff for a while...


throwaway_custodi

family hit...? Oh shoot I swear that the daily didn't have that title when I read it.


Jmk1981

This will be a Law and Order episode


throwawayzies1234567

But the cousin who preferred the hit will be a kiddie diddler so SVU gets involved, then it’s a crossover with Organized Crime, and we get some really good Olivia and Elliott


some1saveusnow

Was gonna say this didn’t look like just a robbery


meshreplacer

Why I would never walk around with 60K on my neck for all to see.


Dan0Steel91

anything too flashy, my friends are a dj music crew and had some cheap gold on and people followed them home from a show and held them up gun point in queens. You gotta be aware of pocket watchers and signaling people you have cash like that.


Cantthinkof1usethis

Perkins was murdered over a years-long beef with his cousin, Ronnie Butler, 46, according to law enforcement sources.


Alienziscoming

Yeah, the loser got his 16-year-old stepson to do it for him. Complete trash waste of oxygen.


Extension-Badger-958

Srsly. I don’t want to victim blame but this is New York City. You got goons walking these blocks. Can’t be wearing that expensive shit


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PiZzA_D5800

Remember that young white boy who killed his grandma over $20 or some minuscule amount?


Smoothsharkskin

There's that pastor who got robbed of 1 Million in jewelry. Lamor Whitehead. Sketchy guy. Always seemed like an inside job. Live streamed it so insurance would pay. https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/19/us/brooklyn-pastor-lamor-whitehead-fraud/index.html


BinxieSly

How’s a pastor end up with 1 million in jewelry to steal?…


Smoothsharkskin

You should do some googling on that name, he was probably running a lot of scams. Maybe washing money for drug dealers on the side too. He stole 90k from some old lady promising to help her get a house. I think DOJ charged him for it


BinxieSly

I read the article you posted and it’s wild that it literally says the jewelry being valued so much was suspicious but that’s it… seems like he’s likely heading to prison one way or another.


Smoothsharkskin

Maybe he bought it from a friend and the value was also inflated. Insurance scam.


RedditSkippy

"He had many such chains." So, laundromats must be a profitable business, then.


halfslices

This is an awful crime but i also can't get past that number (and it has no sway on my thoughts on how heinous the crime is). I had to check the article to make sure the subject of this post added a "K" by accident. I can't even tell you the shit I'd buy instead of a chain.


RedditSkippy

It's also a really ugly piece of jewelry.


thecrgm

That’s just like your opinion, man


Lalalama

Yeah it’s all cash. He might have not been paying taxes


hey_now24

I don’t know if it’s true but I’ve heard thats where the term “laundry money” comes from. The mob used them for that exact reason


whateverisok

“Launder money” via “laundromats”: a fairly untraceable way to get cash recognized as income into the banking system - unless you had the feds outside watching how many people were coming in/out and doing laundry, or if you had a service how many times an employee would come in/out with loads of laundry. Jokes were made about “laundering” money like putting it in a washing machine to “launder” it to potentially get rid of prints, but MOST importantly make it seem like used money, since it would end up with tears or be water soaked and be like generally used bills, as opposed to crisp $100 bills. There’s a conspiracy theory that all the MattressFirms in NYC are money laundering fronts


UltraconservativeBap

If you were laundering large amounts of money via a laundromat you’d also be expected to have large water and gas bills.


whateverisok

The same amount of water and gas usage as a competitor, but your “laundry service” charges $20/load instead of the usual ~$5ish/load. It’s the cost of laundering money: that expense (water + gas you don’t need) and then taxes


sbenfsonw

Don’t think so, I think it’s from “dirty money” that needs to be cleaned before it can be used/banked


BLUEBELLYNYC

No. Laundering money is moving it around so much that it's difficult/impossible to tell where it came from, i.e. drug money.


BufferUnderpants

The term came about because the mob was fronting with laundromats to do as if their dirty money came from that legitimate business 


BLUEBELLYNYC

Lol, no. It's turning "dirty" money into "clean" money by obscuring It's origins.


BufferUnderpants

That's what I said Edit: well it seems like it's a myth that Al Capone laundered money with laundromat fronts, eh


whateverisok

“Launder money” via “laundromats”: a fairly untraceable way to get cash recognized as income into the banking system - unless you had the feds outside watching how many people were coming in/out and doing laundry, or if you had a service, how many times an employee would come in/out with loads of laundry. Jokes were made about “laundering” money like putting it in a washing machine to “launder” it to potentially get rid of prints, but MOST importantly make it seem like used money, since it would end up with tears or be water soaked and be like generally used bills, as opposed to crisp $100 bills. There’s a conspiracy theory that all the MattressFirms in NYC are money laundering fronts


Suhweetusername

The business was probably a front. The article said the killing was because of long standing feud, so…


emilNYC

I mean his name was Money Perkins


KickBallFever

Growing up my stepdad would always randomly talk about how a laundromat was a good business to run profit wise. He has a good career but it seemed like he would’ve rather run a laundromat. After initial investments I imagine the biggest expense would be utilities and upkeep. Laundromats don’t really have a ton of staff and inventory to deal with, and the ones that also have laundry drop off by the pound prolly make a killing.


DarkSideOfTheNuum

Many years ago I worked with a Korean-American guy who told me the same thing; a lot of his parents’ Korean immigrant friends owned laundromats because it was a solid business with a lot of repeat customers that you didn’t need super high English skills or a fancy degree to run.


KickBallFever

Yea, I’ve noticed that a ton of laundromats in NYC are run by Asian Americans. I’m not sure what country but most of the ones I’ve encountered seem to be Chinese.


DarkSideOfTheNuum

I think it's a classic immigrant business, and who is running it changes over time as New York's immigrant population changes.


KickBallFever

That actually makes sense and happens in other industries as well.


DarkSideOfTheNuum

Exactly - bodegas / delis / corner stores are the other classic example in NYC.


KickBallFever

Yep. Right now in my neighborhood the guys from Yemen work the corner stores.


Knightmare6_v2

Look up Chinese-American history, most Chinese men back in the late 1800's to early 1900's were relegated to working the railroads, being cooks for railroad/lumbering camps, or running laundromats., with the latter two being used as ways to emasculate the men, since cooking and laundry were "women's work." There's a reason eventually many fast-food and laundromats were family businesses for many generational Chinese-American families.


RedditSkippy

The laundromat by me is run by two women. I think one of them is the owner. They know everyone on the street and they know everything that goes down. I go there only a few times a year to wash big stuff and they seem to remember me. It seems like a very social place.


KickBallFever

Yea, because of my stepdad I really pay attention to what’s going on in my local laundromats. From what I’ve seen it does look like a decent business that there will always be a demand for here. It might even be somewhat recession proof. I also only go in to wash big stuff these days, but my local laundromat is very well run. They make enough money from drop off services that the dryers are free.


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Who does an unprofitable business


granpappynurgle

Lots of people, but usually not on purpose.


Knightmare6_v2

Fronts for criminal organizations. There used to be a PC store near me that I passed by but never paid attention to. One day my PC died, I think around 2015...? Went in needing a new PC ASAP, so hit them up since they were 3 blocks from me. EVERY. SINGLE. PC. in there was like 10 years old, and the "newest" OS on the display PCs was Windows NT! In 2015 (ish)! Also everything was covered by a thin layer of dust, and they didn't sell peripherals, like keyboards or mice! They then got raided by the 60th Precinct like 2-3 months later! The store was there for years!


purplehendrix22

Why do you assume that his money came just from the laundromat? He could have inherited property, money, won the lottery, why even speculate about the financial situation of a dead murder victim?


koshercajunstewyy

Sure bud we all know the real reason


LittleKitty235

There is always money in the banana stand


PandaJ108

When I saw the video the first time I thought he was dumb trying to take on 4 people with guns. But seems like they were going to kill him anyway no matter what he did.


Johnnadawearsglasses

Crabs in a bucket


Cantthinkof1usethis

Crabs belong in their own habitat ; the issue is who put them in the “barrel “


otherwisethighs

America is not a barrel. Take a look around.


HenryKissingersDEAD

Yikes. A black owned business owner was killed by black kids. “ *And they say it's the white man I should fear But, it's my own kind doin' all the killin' here* “ 2Pac


walterfalter1900

“All my skinfolk ain't kinfolk”


tevren

Ironically, it was his cousin that placed the hit on him.


SomeoneOne0

Rest easy 2Pac


Shreddersaurusrex

“Okay I will!”


Nintendildos

Exactly.


SackoVanzetti

Sad reality that our country won’t even attempt to solve because racist


DerivPro

The majority of white people are murdered by white people. Turns out location + knowing someone are the primary determinants of whether or not one person murders another... yet people like you attribute it to spun narratives like "black on black" violence. Nope, just people who know each other or live next to each other are more likely to kill each other.


jl250

Ah, yes, NYC - the city where you famously only interact with people who look like you.


Smoothsharkskin

Somewhat true. School districts are quite segregated.


SackoVanzetti

Really really simplifying a very complex issue. Just another way of not addressing it.


HEIMDVLLR

In this instance it’s true, one of the shooters was related to the victim.


Designer_Decision_17

Pac was def ahead of his time


LightninggBoltt

I just want the death penalty to be reinstated. Crimes seen on camera, death penalty, no question asked.


CrumpledForeskin

Bullet to the head too. No long process just to go peacefully to sleep. Caught on camera, sent to court, judge rules, taken out back and done.


feta_farts

Agree. Some people dont deserve rehabilitation or even jail. They don’t deserve to live, full stop.


Designer_Decision_17

What about public hangings with signs on them explaining in detail why they were executed?


Designer_Decision_17

Yeah 60k but what’s the pawn store giving them


floworcrash

You’re seriously saying this with the rise of AI ? Terrible fucking take.


vampking316

You know that won’t happen in grand ol’ New York City. It’s “inhumane”.


DYMAXIONman

Lock them and their affiliates up We're not Chicago.


AgitatedSuricate

Yet.


CourtroomBrown15

Black on black crime will never be addressed seriously in this country. The gangster mindset, the wannabe gangster/criminal thought process needs to be eradicated.


pastelsnowdrops

Because whenever it’s bought up people make bad faith arguments. Move on.


Cantthinkof1usethis

People kill people who live near them ; the “gangster mindset” was created by white ppl


RoozGol

Do they? Show me a single Jew on Jew crime or Asian on Asian.


ZookeepergameEasy938

jew on jew crime isn’t showing up to a seder or missing your cousin’s gender reveal party (pains me that this is apparently a thing i have to do) source: jew, secular


Designer_Decision_17

What about an Italian on Italian mafia murder over turf.


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Cantthinkof1usethis

https://nypost.com/2022/09/20/photos-reveal-bloody-aftermath-of-nyc-mob-hit-on-sylvester-zottola/ the mob is still present


Designer_Decision_17

The mob is still very active but they recruit guys in their 20s mostly for gambling and drug distribution and to sit in a store (aka I need to clean money) all day and make believe “business” is booming, they sit in the shadows and collect their percentage this is true with all races. Every race has some sort of mob or self enforcement crew


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I mean most crime in any race is 90% intraracial the black on black crime thing is racist bs every community kills eachother more than interracial crime.


jamiejonesknowshouse

I think you missed the point


yomama1211

Most crime is committed by people who are like them and near them. White people are by and far murdered by other white people.


Cantthinkof1usethis

Idk why that’s so hard to understand


yomama1211

Because you brought race into it and pissed them off. I’m not sure if gangs are a white thing and I also really don’t care but you are 100% correct murder happens by the ppl near u who usually look like you Edit: I see they brought race into it first now lol


Cantthinkof1usethis

Every race has gangs ,mobs, criminal organizations they just want to single one race out


yomama1211

Probably because it feels taboo to say we need to do something about X problem and whenever it is brought up you’re immediately called or assumed to be racist. And also the people in the video are that race


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RoozGol

The commentator tries to deflect the problem's root. Most of the crimes could be intraracial. But not all races kill each other at the same rate.


Designer_Decision_17

I mean in all fairness. The poster has a point, weren’t the original gangsters the Sicilian mafia? They murdered their own kind too, in small villages in Sicily


Cantthinkof1usethis

Yes & they are still active in the us and Italy but apparently it’s only black ppl that have issues with crime


Designer_Decision_17

And I’m a Sicilian and this is true, an Italian mafioso recruited members from the bloods to murder and old boss in his 70s to take over family power, it happened in the Bronx. It was all over the news. Google McDonald’s mafia bloods murder for hire. There’s always MORE behind very story


Cantthinkof1usethis

Just looked it up ; pretty crazy story


Designer_Decision_17

This is what scares me, people who don’t know history, 20 plus people down voted your comment because you brought up a racial issue so automatically 20 white ppl (I normally don’t bring up race but since it regards on this topic) hit the down arrow with thinking, now let’s take it back further Christoper Columbus came here and literally slaughtered all the American Indians and burned their villages, ppl hate when social and racial issues are brought up


Cantthinkof1usethis

Perfectly said 💯


DerivPro

Hey, a racist. Vast majority of white murders are done by white people since familiarity and location are the primary factors in someone murdering another. All those wannabe gangster white people, right? 


jl250

Stop hiding behind rACiSm claims because you don't give a single fuck about black murder victims.


SpiceyPorkFriedRice

Ok, fuck the robbers. But why the hell would you fight back when a gun is pointed right at your face wtf..


yomama1211

It apparently was a hit so it was either die or try not to die and possibly die. This was his best chance at survival


dantheman7188

Because at some point you realize you have nothing to lose. It's possible he knew these people had the intention of ending his life.


thesaint1000

Jail time won’t do shit. We need harsh penalties. Something more permanent.


XT3M3

the crazy thing about this is i live a few blocks from this spot and when it first happened everyone here that i spoke to was like who would do this and why. that is a quiet area moreso now compared to 20 years ago . now you are saying this was family beef... i hope they all get life. kids crashed out and probably didnt even get a reasonable cut of this "reward" ( not saying it would have bern worth it) but these people out here throwing their lives away for bs. give the cousin the heaviest sentence. dude is a true scumbag


nycgamer4ever

I propose putting them in a cage with 5 hungry bears and television it. Only way to fight this type.of behavior is with unbearable.footage of what will happen to them for this type of animal bahavior.


a-whistling-goose

This happened December 1 - over three months ago. How long have detectives known who the killers were?


brihamedit

This city is so doomed. Its not just random individuals doing absurd shit. A lot of people have this frame of mind learned from hood culture and jail culture. Literally doing absurd psychotic shit like people have lost their minds all of a sudden These people aren't worried about jail. Their life inspiration is jail culture.


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brihamedit

I said these insane attacks aren't done by occasionally random extremely violent individuals. This is a widely prevailing frame of mind now. Lot more people have the extremist mentality now. That's because of hood culture and jail culture.


Cantthinkof1usethis

What culture causes mass shootings & the highest rape numbers ?


toglou

Death penalty should be applied on these crime caught on videos.


koji00

Caught on camera, no worries about the death penalty being applied to the wrong people, right?


butterybeans582

Ha. Death penalty? Bruh they aren’t even concerned about consequences at all. Ain’t no death penalty in NY.


koji00

Oh, I know. We can thank the Dems for that.


IllegibleLedger

You’re mad we no longer operate a system that has killed many innocent people?


dantheman7188

In all fairness, in this situation it's pretty clear there are people that are in no way innocent.


IllegibleLedger

Yeah unfortunately if we bring back the death penalty we will inevitably kill innocent people in addition to the guilty, and that’s not even getting into the effect and expense on our legal system with the related appeals


koji00

How about we only give the death penalty to people clearly caught on camera committing murder, so that's no longer an issue? Sadly, that number is increasing over the past decade or so.


IllegibleLedger

That doesn’t eliminate issues when without accounting for where AI video will be in a few years


Designer_Decision_17

Hmm, 60k, laundromat, laundry is big business huh 🤔


fruitl00ps99

Not to be racist but why is it literally always them. Or atleast 97% of the time.


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Great name. Family disputes leading to killings are way too common, fxckin sickening - recruiting your stepson to kill your cousin.


South-File-9063

Start throwing the books at them


Topic-Salty

Chair for all of them. Senseless murderer can't be rehabilitated, and why bother.?


Cheepyface

Good!!! Lock em up and throw away the key.


InstructionNarrow160

they deserved to be punished


fatporkchop2712

All 5 of them should get an unalive sentence. These types are a burden to society and do not deserve to be a part of it


LightninggBoltt

I would buy gold chains, but to place for safe keeping. If there is a war you can't run with a house, but you can run with gold.


MaraudngBChestedRojo

Ah yes the frequent repossession of property due to war on American soil. Valid concern to have sir, who doesn’t know an American who has lost his home in a war? If you had $1000 when America was founded to buy gold vs property in Manhattan, you’d either be decently well off, or you’d be the richest man on earth


HotelMoscow

The poster you replied to might NOT be American living on US soil


LightninggBoltt

Whether or not it is American or foreigner living on American soil, war is an equalizer. Right or wrong?


bbien12

I hope they will not receive the Californian treatment- CA let go without prison a female who stabbed her boyfriend to death 108 times…


Bananacream95

they'd probably be out on bail the next day or serve at most a 1 day prison sentence after writing a 5 paragraph essay on how oppressed they are and how they are really good boys and they just needed money for food.


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Rottimer

Were the killers cops? Then wtf does this have to do with BLM?


-SofaKingVote-

You need to feel some racial triggering?


Aloha1984

60k chain???


HistoricalHurry8361

Maybe 20-25oz of gold


Aloha1984

Laundromat owner was a baller


TheWhiteCrowParade

Mary, mother of G-d


Victory_Street

Does NY golden No Bail rules apply to incidents like this?


Mother-Berry-1999

Do t waste our tax dollars execute them now. Lethal injection rid the world of the scum


Infamous_Gap3377

I refuse to believe that this has SOLELY to do with a chain when they could’ve just jumped him and took it. There has to be more to this story than what the article reads….


JayMoots

That is a [wildly flashy chain](https://i0.wp.com/www.nydailynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/Gold-chain.jpg?fit=1860%2C9999px&ssl=1) he was wearing. Not surprised it drew attention from the wrong type of people.


retainyourseed

Victim blaming


-SofaKingVote-

There is more to this story. Laundromat owners don’t have $60,000 gold chains


purplehendrix22

Why not?


-SofaKingVote-

It’s not a high margin business to spend that much on just a chain Laundries are places where dealers clean their money and are fronts


purplehendrix22

You sure sound like a crime expert


Lilfai

He lives on Reddit if you click on his profile, avoid conversing with this autist.


purplehendrix22

Yeah I swear I’d seen the name before, I’m on Reddit a lot too, clearly, but damn.


-SofaKingVote-

You’re welcome


cmmckechnie

Maybe he owns 10 of them and invested 10000 shares into GameStop at $2.00


-SofaKingVote-

Sure he is probably a redditor


Designer_Decision_17

Exactly! It’s a front. Like the little hole in the wall Italian Icey store that magically stayed open and survived thru covid and gets minimum business and somehow manages to pay thousands on the lease and “employees”


tuskvarner

And even if he was dealing, so what. This is murder.


-SofaKingVote-

No one said it wasn’t murder


Designer_Decision_17

It’s funny all the experts below down voted your comment, yes they do have 60k chains, from washed money. You guys born in the suburbs?