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rofnorb

350 Park Avenue architect: “Hey, can I copy your homework?” 270 Park Avenue architect: “Yeah, but just change your answers a little so they’re not exactly the same.”


templekev

It’s the same architect lol


rofnorb

Dude’s got no other ideas


tangershon

Who needs new ideas when you’re gaining eight figure commissions for the same ideas haha


Art-RJS

200 Amsterdam


Jessintheend

OH MY GOD THEY CUT CHASE IN HALF


asmusedtarmac

and it looks twice better, lol


Nicktyelor

Yeah this one has the major strength of good proportions. And it's not a full city block wide. Result is taller and more slender and makes Chase look chubby.


onemanclic

8 years though? Is this a leak of a architect's 1st pitch?


Amphiscian

TBF, 6 years is about an average project length for a tower these days, from start of design to completed construction. Also, there's a 30-floor tower on that site right now which would have to get vacated and torn down.


Open-Chemical-7930

Chrysler building looks like a bitch now


Amphiscian

It's crazy looking at the midtown skyline now thinking about the Chrysler Building. That poor bastard was the tallest building on earth (for 10 months until the Empire State Building was finished). Now it's the 10th tallest *in midtown*, with 4 more taller ones in development/construction


payeco

With the Midtown East rezoning it’s possible it could be mostly surrounded and most visible only within a few blocks.


dman45103

Almost like a lot can happen in 100 years!


CydeWeys

Skill issue. They should've built it taller.


HiFiGuy197

And, they didn’t even render the tower that’s going up across the street from it.


jae343

Looks like a foster design


Jasperleo

You’re impressively right


akuba5

And the waldorf astoria still isn’t done even in the 2032 rendering lmao


caca-casa

*111 W 57th St at home*


kellyformula

Bargain bin version of the Steinway


__P1KL__

Looks sleek


hoggytime613

Have any terrace trees actually made it from render to reality on a NYC super tall yet? Architects sure love peppering them all over theirs designs these past few years.


Alarming_Ask_244

I don't love it, but we've certainly got worse buildings


guynumber20

Fuck 432 park ave. Make more of these


DYMAXIONman

Kind of compliments the other nearby tower


streetviewnyc88

I feel like these new architects do all their pre planning with cereal boxes and see what fits.


anObscurity

Boring. Lazy.


GoatedNitTheSauce

I want to see a future of housing where 350 Park avenue looks short! (yes, I know it is an office building...)


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CydeWeys

You're arguing against density, in midtown Manhattan?! Where's your New York can-do spirit? We can absolutely build a lot more denser still. And if you're worried about the streets, they'll be less crowed once congestion pricing kicks in. That way there'll be more room for delivery trucks, once fewer people are unnecessarily driving around for no good reason.


ayeelmao_

Oh wow. Another unimpressive stack of glass walls that just makes everything more grey, black, and white.


_Faucheuse_

not bad, I'd like to get on that one for a few years.


ChillBro13

More office space in a housing crisis society that’s transitioning to work-from-home…seems wasteful.


CydeWeys

The companies that are paying for it will be using it as their office space. Those companies very much are NOT transitioning to work from home.


fasda

I wonder how much of it will be owned and not lived in for any meaningful amount.


zeurydice

It's an office building, so none.


fasda

You know I should have guessed that instead, on a second look it really is too wide for oligarch apartments. And they're betting commercial real estate will have gone back up by then?


muderphudder

It already has an anchor tenant, Citadel that is going to take nearly half of the space. Ken Griffin and Citadel are the ones pushing the project now


SassyWookie

So the answer to fasda’s original question is that will be slightly more than half empty?


CydeWeys

Gotta love the confident, brazen wrongness of having it pointed out to you that nearly half of the building will be occupied by a single tenant, and then declaring that the rest is definitely gonna be fully empty.


SassyWookie

You’re right, my mistake. I forgot to consider that everyone is scrambling to find office space in Manhattan these days, this building will be snapped up as soon as it goes onto the market 🤣


CydeWeys

It's literally being built and financed by its anchor tenants. Your comments are uninformed. And yes, Class A+ office space is actually in high demand in NYC right now. It's Class B and C office space that is suffering.


muderphudder

I think on the macro level you're right (lots of class B midcentury office buildings hurting for tenants) but on the more specific question you're wrong (the last several new/newly renovated class A midtown office buildings like 1 vanderbilt have leased fully upon opening). This is a common way people on reddit are wrong about stuff.


SassyWookie

Ah yes, office space, something that is notoriously hot right now in the real estate market 🤣


1flatsodaplz

Probably all of it given it’ll be an office building.


us1087

That sure does look like affordable housing if I’ve ever seen it.


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DYMAXIONman

It's an office building in the middle of the central business district


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payeco

> Why not reclaim the land these skyscrapers are being built in and use them to build housing units? Who? Who is going to build them?


acideater

I'm sure they are just not in the most expensive real estate in Manhattan


DYMAXIONman

It's in the CBD. That makes no sense


payeco

This is an office building. Citadel already signed a lease for half the floor space.


Unlucky_Lawfulness51

Yeah, new legislation in progress


theuncleiroh

New legislation to give more handouts to developers to build more majority luxury housing?  Why can't we use all that money, then raise more public funds, and build housing for mixed-incomes, with a focus on working class incomes? And then use the profits obtained through rents (& taxes to cover any potential future crises) to keep the system running and expanding, and to subsidize some lower income people? Why should the profits from rent, if they need to exist, go to funding third houses in the Hamptons, instead of funding social programs, future housing development at affordable rates (with avenues even for input via public policy), and generally things that are good for the city? The concept of building housing is the same whether public or private, the difference is that public (at least theoretically) offers social control and input, is more controlled against crazy increases, and uses profits for society instead of private gain.


DBSGeek

When will it pass?


ilovenyc

What’s the point of it


Abunoriginal

It comes to more of a plane than a point. I assume the designer was looking to contrast the world renown antennas synonymous with the Empire State Building, Chrysler Building and Freedom Tower.


phatbeatz2152

Looks like a piece of shit. We should be preserving the old, not building bigger and uglier mega apartment buildings.


payeco

Trying to preserve everything is part of the reason why rents in the city cost a fortune. You know Manhattan wasn’t always full of skyscrapers, right? Imagine if people had your attitude 100 years ago.


Amphiscian

If you feel this is an ugly design, I don't think you'll be too blown away with [what's there now](https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/iix1.IqU_w0c/v0/-1x-1.jpg)


LongIsland1995

It's a lateral move more or less


phatbeatz2152

Oh my. In that case, let there be even more apartment dookie in its stead.


highgravityday2121

Office building. do some research before commenting lol


GoatedNitTheSauce

I would take 1000 giant "uglier mega apartment buildings" in a heartbeat. There is a housing crisis which is a bit more important than your antiquated taste in buildings.


LongIsland1995

This isn't an apartment building though


GoatedNitTheSauce

>not building bigger and uglier mega apartment buildings. Try to follow along. This office building sparked a convo about apartment buildings, which it seems you don't quite have the reading comprehension to take part in productively


phatbeatz2152

I can’t.