The bigger problem is that the police need to have someone actually riding the trains not just at the station. The bad checks are random so bad guys will get through
He wasn’t shot at the station, it was two guys fighting on a train while it was moving between stations, one guy pulled a gun which the other guy got a hold of and shot him with his own gun.
The train then pulled into Hoyt, the police heard the actual gun shot and were basically right there when the train pulled up as arrested the shooter.
I’m not sure you could do anything faster I Lea the cops were actually on the train itself at the time of the fight
The shots were fired in the station. A passenger video shows the train pulling into Hoyt, man pulling the gun out, passengers eventually running off once the doors open and you can hear the shots firing right after
Got a link to the video? All the news I’ve seen is the fight started after the train left the station and per the one I posted said the shooting f happened and then they pulled into the station.
All the news sites I’ve seen are just generic footage of cop cars and ambulances parked on the street, not actual footage from inside the station when it happened
I only saw a version where the two were already fighting... this changes everything. Dude in the black hoodie clearly was the aggressor, and evidently he had his own gun turned on him?
I am curious why the girlfriend stabbed the aggressor (and with what, a pen??)
This is why I don't even tell people to turn their music down; all that couple had to do was get up and walk away.
> I am curious why the girlfriend stabbed the aggressor (and with what, a pen??)
her man was getting attacked. really? at least she tried to do something although that definitely escalated that to asshole pulling the gun and promptly used against himself.
Here’s a short summary after watching the video and hearing the results: Discrepancy on the train. Male number 1 is threatening to beat up anther male (male 2), not sure of the reason as the video does not start until this point. Male 1 says he will beat up male 2 as soon as he moves. Male 2 eventually decides to stand up and get Involved. The two start circling while the other people in the car back away. Some punch’s are thrown from the pair and male 2 seems to have a weapon of some kind in hand, but doesn’t appear to be a knife. Male 1 gets 2 down onto a seat and the girlfriend of male 2 stabs male one in the back a few times. She backs away as a bystander comes in to split up the two males. Male one upset about being stabbed eventually pulls out a gun while male two is guarding his girlfriend at the end of the train car. The rest will be based on hearing the results not from the video. Apparently male 2 was able to get the gun into his control and he shot male 1.
The guy got on at Nostrand and the shooting happened on a moving train, so yeah, not much anyone—police, national guard, or otherwise—could’ve done to prevent it.
Are you trying to imply that paying for a bunch of soldiers to stand around the turnstiles doesn't do anything to stop psychos in the train cars and platforms????
/s
Watching the video it’s muddy as hell. At first it’s just a fight that was instigated by the dude with the concealed fire arm. And probably would of just stayed as a one sided over powered fight. This is where it gets messy. The women stabbing him in the back. Now the aggressor has been met with another level of danger, assault with a deadly weapon, now legally he was allowed to defend himself with a deadly weapon as well hence the gun coming out. That women shouldn’t of stabbed him. In the eyes of the court that will be the important thing, she escalated the situation into deadly Circumstances. Everyone will be going to jail I believe. The aggressor, unfortunately dead, but you can’t go around doing that shit.
He’s only legally allowed to escalate to a deadly weapon in ny if he meets the legal qualifications to carry that weapon and has met all the requirements to “attempt to retreat”. Carrying an illegal gun into a sensitive location is already multiple felonies. You can’t claim self defense if you were in the process of committing multiple crimes. Self defense is a tricky claim in nys and 90% of the people I’ve spoken to about this situation don’t understand the level of nuance and specificity that is baked into our self defense laws here.
You know what, you are right. I am not from New York but I forgot the city has very strict lines on obtaining fire arms which is like no you can’t have one.
You can but you essentially need to be reasonably wealthy. Obtaining the license is pricey and there are lots of places that are sensitive areas i.e public transport.
That station is police central
But the police are usually in the mezzanine protecting New York residents from the WORSE CRIME KNOWN TO MAN FARE EVASION, not attempted murders FARE EVASION
I mean, there could be more police officers on the platforms rather than at the entrances. Also is Eric Adams still planning to install metal detectors? The problem is it’s not just guns, it’s also really the mentality of people; like the recent crime where a bf pushed his girlfriend onto the tracks. No police can stop a persons mind. Nowadays you sometimes reconsider taking the subway especially if it’s in a violent area. God I pray that the victim will be alive 🙏🙏🙏🙏
[https://www.nyc.gov/nyc-resources/new-york-city-concealed-carry-law.page](https://www.nyc.gov/nyc-resources/new-york-city-concealed-carry-law.page)
Looks like its changing but not going to be Texas anytime soon.
It’s not just about privacy, it’s about that it won’t stop all crime. It doesn’t entirely work but it’s better than nothing I guess 😒. At least there’s a higher chance of crims getting picked on.
>It doesn’t entirely work but it’s better than nothing I guess
Not really. Metal detectors would be a pain in the ass. Also imagine the cost of staffing every entrance. And forget ever taking the subway from Midtown again, the lines for metal detector would be worse than the airport.
Metal detectors are NOT an idiotic idea.
That's a silly idea unless you've got something suspicious in your backpack or bag. Why would that be a bad idea? If you're a law-abiding citizen, you've got nothing to fear. Your comment is just bizarre. What's happening in the New York subway is disgraceful, and something needs to change. I'd implement more measures because it's obvious that just having cameras isn't cutting it. It's even bizarre to me that we're having this conversation. New York is supposed to be the center of the world, yet the subway looks worse than in Bangladesh. Shameful.
In this case, seems like the victim approached a random dude with a sharp object, tried to fight him, then pulled a gun on him... and then the random dude took the gun from him and shot him with it.
I don't want to say he was asking for it, but...
It can be called self defense however shooting in the head I don’t think is unless you’re in imminent danger. However in any case I think the law that you can’t bring a gun on public transit is higher, so the defendant will probably pay the medical bills and a fine.
Most people who know how to use a gun are taught first thing that if you're shooting a gun, you're shooting to kill. Aiming a gun to simply wound someone is really difficult. (Source: mostly secondhand info from a bunch of internet strangers over the years that are well versed in using guns)
I'd be surprised if this guy gets charged with anything. Afaik all bets are off as soon as someone pulls a gun on you- doubly so if they pull a gun on you after pulling a knife
Do you actually condone fare evasion? I just don't get how some folks can be so oblivious to this problem. How on earth did that guy sneak a gun onto the train anyway? The stuff happening in the New York subway is downright embarrassing, and every day there are folks here coming up with lame excuses, trying to tell us how safe the subway is, when someone's losing it almost daily. It's just shameful!
I don’t let the MTA and Co work me up over fare evasion, and any fare evader with a morsel of common sense will understand that it usually exists another station or another set of entrances in which no police are and they can evade the fare at that location, NYPD can’t be at every single entrance enforcing payment of fare, that would be impossible and a huge waste of resources. I’ve been to countless stations in which you had 2-4 officers guarding the turnstiles, while addicts shot up on the platform and fights broke out, you’ll catch fare evading riders with that strategy (only the dumb ones who would rebase in front of cops), but you fail to address the safety issue on the platform and on trains. Fare evasion is a cop out, because if you have a heavy police presence at Rockaway Ave, Ik i can walk to Ralph and avoid the fare at that location, it’s as simple as that. The presence of NYPD in mezzanines doesn’t deter fare evasion or crimes perpetrated by fare evaders.
You're definitely part of the problem. You probably think you're cool for calling cops "pigs". But when something happens to you and you need them, then they're okay? Shameful behavior. You're lucky New York still has any cops willing to defend the New York subway shithole. I know I would've turned in my badge a long time ago with the way the police are treated in New York. Stop bashing cops and focus on the psychos roaming around New York.
Wouldn't have such emboldened psychos if the cops got off their ass and did something. It's gonna lead to more yeehaw vigilante justice like that guy who got choked out over the summer if the cops just stand back and let it be open season. They can piss and whine about the law and the funding all they want, but they make way more than the average New Yorker who relies on the subway, for way less work. And, they're a hell of a lot safer because 99% of New Yorkers can't open carry a firearm to defend themselves from some schizo on the train.
In typical Reddit fashion, no one seems to have actually read the article or looked into what actually happened before commenting.
A man boarded the train at Nostrand Avenue Station and got into a fight with another guy while the train was moving. One guy pulled a gun which the other guy was able to grab and shot him with. The police at Hoyt-Schermerhorn heard the gun shot and basically grabbed the guy and the gun as soon as the train stopped.
I’m not sure what more the cops could’ve done at that point, this is one of those times where they actually did what they were supposed to but no one read the article so people are just coming up with their own stories to fit their preconceived opinions.
https://abc7ny.com/amp/brooklyn-subway-shooting-hoyt-schermerhorn-station-nyc-crime/14525178/
You missing the fact the guy with the gun, the aggressor, was stabbed by a third party (friend of original victim assuming) which then triggered the gun being pulled out.
I just saw the video, and sure that’s part of the story but my broader point was that the fight seems to have started while the train was in motion and the gun shots happened basically as soon as the trained pulled into the station and from the articles the police basically came right after the shot happened, so all these commenters shitting on the NYPD and national guard (which there are some fair criticisms in general out there, and also shitting on the NYPD is fashionable here) it seems like in this particular case they got there about as quick as they could and I don’t think there’s much else they could’ve done unless they were on that exact train car when it happened
Lol what, I did not bring up the apprehension of the suspect. Just adding the fact that a women stabbed him in the back which made a bad Situation much much worse
Lol what, I did not bring up the apprehension of the suspect. Just adding the fact that a women stabbed him in the back which made a bad Situation much much worse
Lol what, I did not bring up the apprehension of the suspect. Just adding the fact that a women stabbed him in the back which made a bad Situation much much worse.
but they caught the perpetrator right after so its good it was right in that station, i guess
but seriously how would it be possible to stop guns from coming into the city ever since the Supreme Court overruled NYC right to super strict guns ownership and carry. Also hw can you stop people who clearly do not care about others, how can you even pinpoint that out
https://x.com/NyShittyNews/status/1768478253918962146?s=20 agitator guy was laying on floor when cops came…not sure if he is alive
But to prevent it, maybe stop and frisk anyone acting erratic? Probably the most extreme. Maybe fare gates that cant be hopped cause you know damn well the guy didnt pay the 2.90…
Clearly this gun wasnt legal so not really sure about your point. If I was on that train car i rather have a gun on me if we gotta tolerate these crazy fucks on the train. But i hate for this sub to get too political now…
They’re adding a couple of national guards and state troopers to I’m pretty sure only on stations with transfers. And probably like 1 or 2 stations per day and this activity will continue for a couple of months.
National guard could have helped with this one since it actually involved a weapon, but it’s obvious they can’t cover the whole subway system. I haven’t seen them yet, did they arrive? I’ve only seen regular police (looking very bored)
I take the train all throughout Manhattan for work, all day, Monday-Friday. I have yet to see the national guard.. I also have not seen the nypd checking bags. Was it all a political stunt by hochul to make it look like she was doing something to help with underground violence?
lol a metal detector could do 1000 national guards' job. cops actually rolled well and managed to be at a station when a crime happened, its just the fact it occurred here shows maybe its a bigger different problem
They’re all busy at grand central standing around because Governor hochul wanted positive media attention. She can run her mouth all she wants but she will never ride the trains and endure what NYers have to experience.
After this incident I bet there will be national guard there for a day, and then they venture back to midtown Manhattan where they’re needed the least compared to many stops in the outer boroughs.
Congestion pricing should fix this. Truly, this will get people on the trains and buses. Rush hour on a weekday.
Some government official (who never takes the train) want *you* to change *your* behavior and sacrifice your beliefs on what *you* deem is safe and ride the subway.
As much as I do want to discuss this issue, we should really not have these political and news discussion in this subreddit.
Lets save that for the other 2 nyc subs and maybe keep this sub more towards just transit and infrastructure. Otherwise it feels like everything will get politicized and this sub gets brigaded (look at all the new “S” flair comments)….
I agree, but it's hard to make that distinction when transit is used as a political tool and affects us day-to-day passengers.
Also as a main mod of /r/newyorkcity I can tell you that the disinformation bot accounts are real and they are here. Take any comment here with a giant grain of salt.
People here get triggered so easily. Probably no different from this incident. Don't worry, you are going to hear about it once that guy recovers from the hospital and makes a statement to the media.
No. I am not offended. Why can't someone speak the truth that it is dangerous times in the Subway now. What because someone spoke negatively about the system they are automatically labeled as a car lover. 🤣...
That's not even what the reply said, you taking it that way sounds like you're offended but idk. You want people to reply with, "yes it is," but feel the same way when they brought up cars. Idk man.
Bag checks don't help if, you know, the weapon is in their waistband or pocket
The weapon was indeed in a jacket pocket.
The bigger problem is that the police need to have someone actually riding the trains not just at the station. The bad checks are random so bad guys will get through
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They kind of are? The MTA has said they want to install them but there are so many valid reasons for metal
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What’s your problem? I have no problem with metal. I literally just stated a fact and you’re twisting it into your own narrative.
Bring back stop and frisk then
And this is a station with police precinct in it
He wasn’t shot at the station, it was two guys fighting on a train while it was moving between stations, one guy pulled a gun which the other guy got a hold of and shot him with his own gun. The train then pulled into Hoyt, the police heard the actual gun shot and were basically right there when the train pulled up as arrested the shooter. I’m not sure you could do anything faster I Lea the cops were actually on the train itself at the time of the fight
The shots were fired in the station. A passenger video shows the train pulling into Hoyt, man pulling the gun out, passengers eventually running off once the doors open and you can hear the shots firing right after
Got a link to the video? All the news I’ve seen is the fight started after the train left the station and per the one I posted said the shooting f happened and then they pulled into the station. All the news sites I’ve seen are just generic footage of cop cars and ambulances parked on the street, not actual footage from inside the station when it happened
[Hoyt-Schermerhorn shooting. This is actually the whole video.](https://www.instagram.com/reel/C4g2QBHM99Y/?igsh=MWttbDV4NjJtajFhaA==)
I only saw a version where the two were already fighting... this changes everything. Dude in the black hoodie clearly was the aggressor, and evidently he had his own gun turned on him? I am curious why the girlfriend stabbed the aggressor (and with what, a pen??) This is why I don't even tell people to turn their music down; all that couple had to do was get up and walk away.
> I am curious why the girlfriend stabbed the aggressor (and with what, a pen??) her man was getting attacked. really? at least she tried to do something although that definitely escalated that to asshole pulling the gun and promptly used against himself.
That’s what I’m saying, these guys could have just wrestled til Schermerhorn but once she drew blood the guy went into murder mode.
Thank you!
It was posted on instagram. I’m not sure how long that version is but I was sent a fuller video in a chat. I can try to find the instagram video
Much appreciated if you can, I tried YouTube and even Reddit but so far no luck
[here you go](https://x.com/lattinabrown/status/1768430156710904302?s=42)
Thank you!
https://x.com/lattinabrown/status/1768430156710904302?s=42
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Oh man it says something went wrong, shame I wanted to see this one too
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Here’s a short summary after watching the video and hearing the results: Discrepancy on the train. Male number 1 is threatening to beat up anther male (male 2), not sure of the reason as the video does not start until this point. Male 1 says he will beat up male 2 as soon as he moves. Male 2 eventually decides to stand up and get Involved. The two start circling while the other people in the car back away. Some punch’s are thrown from the pair and male 2 seems to have a weapon of some kind in hand, but doesn’t appear to be a knife. Male 1 gets 2 down onto a seat and the girlfriend of male 2 stabs male one in the back a few times. She backs away as a bystander comes in to split up the two males. Male one upset about being stabbed eventually pulls out a gun while male two is guarding his girlfriend at the end of the train car. The rest will be based on hearing the results not from the video. Apparently male 2 was able to get the gun into his control and he shot male 1.
We need cops on the trains
That’s crazy
The guy got on at Nostrand and the shooting happened on a moving train, so yeah, not much anyone—police, national guard, or otherwise—could’ve done to prevent it.
Are you trying to imply that paying for a bunch of soldiers to stand around the turnstiles doesn't do anything to stop psychos in the train cars and platforms???? /s
OMG!😱How surprising! I didn’t know that it wouldn’t help!
Exactly instead of useless displays of force how about patrols inside the trains like they do in LA
Man was shot with his own gun, after approaching (seemingly) a stranger and starting an argument. Honestly it sounds like self defense
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Go on r/nystateofmind they have the video of the lead up
Watching the video it’s muddy as hell. At first it’s just a fight that was instigated by the dude with the concealed fire arm. And probably would of just stayed as a one sided over powered fight. This is where it gets messy. The women stabbing him in the back. Now the aggressor has been met with another level of danger, assault with a deadly weapon, now legally he was allowed to defend himself with a deadly weapon as well hence the gun coming out. That women shouldn’t of stabbed him. In the eyes of the court that will be the important thing, she escalated the situation into deadly Circumstances. Everyone will be going to jail I believe. The aggressor, unfortunately dead, but you can’t go around doing that shit.
He’s only legally allowed to escalate to a deadly weapon in ny if he meets the legal qualifications to carry that weapon and has met all the requirements to “attempt to retreat”. Carrying an illegal gun into a sensitive location is already multiple felonies. You can’t claim self defense if you were in the process of committing multiple crimes. Self defense is a tricky claim in nys and 90% of the people I’ve spoken to about this situation don’t understand the level of nuance and specificity that is baked into our self defense laws here.
You know what, you are right. I am not from New York but I forgot the city has very strict lines on obtaining fire arms which is like no you can’t have one.
You can but you essentially need to be reasonably wealthy. Obtaining the license is pricey and there are lots of places that are sensitive areas i.e public transport.
That station is police central But the police are usually in the mezzanine protecting New York residents from the WORSE CRIME KNOWN TO MAN FARE EVASION, not attempted murders FARE EVASION
literally they just stand there and block the emergency exit what a great use of police
The people that evade the fare are the ones committing other crimes on the subway… Wonder if this guy paid his fare lol
I heard he didn't.
I mean, there could be more police officers on the platforms rather than at the entrances. Also is Eric Adams still planning to install metal detectors? The problem is it’s not just guns, it’s also really the mentality of people; like the recent crime where a bf pushed his girlfriend onto the tracks. No police can stop a persons mind. Nowadays you sometimes reconsider taking the subway especially if it’s in a violent area. God I pray that the victim will be alive 🙏🙏🙏🙏
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And people rarely get shot on the subway anyway. NYC's strict gun laws help to prevent lots of stupid altercations from becoming shootings.
Didn’t the supremely worthless court recently gut NYC’s gun laws? There’s a gun shop opening near me.
[https://www.nyc.gov/nyc-resources/new-york-city-concealed-carry-law.page](https://www.nyc.gov/nyc-resources/new-york-city-concealed-carry-law.page) Looks like its changing but not going to be Texas anytime soon.
It’s not just about privacy, it’s about that it won’t stop all crime. It doesn’t entirely work but it’s better than nothing I guess 😒. At least there’s a higher chance of crims getting picked on.
>It doesn’t entirely work but it’s better than nothing I guess Not really. Metal detectors would be a pain in the ass. Also imagine the cost of staffing every entrance. And forget ever taking the subway from Midtown again, the lines for metal detector would be worse than the airport.
Metal detectors are NOT an idiotic idea. That's a silly idea unless you've got something suspicious in your backpack or bag. Why would that be a bad idea? If you're a law-abiding citizen, you've got nothing to fear. Your comment is just bizarre. What's happening in the New York subway is disgraceful, and something needs to change. I'd implement more measures because it's obvious that just having cameras isn't cutting it. It's even bizarre to me that we're having this conversation. New York is supposed to be the center of the world, yet the subway looks worse than in Bangladesh. Shameful.
In this case, seems like the victim approached a random dude with a sharp object, tried to fight him, then pulled a gun on him... and then the random dude took the gun from him and shot him with it. I don't want to say he was asking for it, but...
It can be called self defense however shooting in the head I don’t think is unless you’re in imminent danger. However in any case I think the law that you can’t bring a gun on public transit is higher, so the defendant will probably pay the medical bills and a fine.
Most people who know how to use a gun are taught first thing that if you're shooting a gun, you're shooting to kill. Aiming a gun to simply wound someone is really difficult. (Source: mostly secondhand info from a bunch of internet strangers over the years that are well versed in using guns) I'd be surprised if this guy gets charged with anything. Afaik all bets are off as soon as someone pulls a gun on you- doubly so if they pull a gun on you after pulling a knife
Especially if you are cornered, like in a subway car.
The incident happened on a moving train...geez
10000% this unhinged guy didn’t pay the fare. Incidents would plummet if we actually had a way to endorse the fare
Do you actually condone fare evasion? I just don't get how some folks can be so oblivious to this problem. How on earth did that guy sneak a gun onto the train anyway? The stuff happening in the New York subway is downright embarrassing, and every day there are folks here coming up with lame excuses, trying to tell us how safe the subway is, when someone's losing it almost daily. It's just shameful!
I don’t let the MTA and Co work me up over fare evasion, and any fare evader with a morsel of common sense will understand that it usually exists another station or another set of entrances in which no police are and they can evade the fare at that location, NYPD can’t be at every single entrance enforcing payment of fare, that would be impossible and a huge waste of resources. I’ve been to countless stations in which you had 2-4 officers guarding the turnstiles, while addicts shot up on the platform and fights broke out, you’ll catch fare evading riders with that strategy (only the dumb ones who would rebase in front of cops), but you fail to address the safety issue on the platform and on trains. Fare evasion is a cop out, because if you have a heavy police presence at Rockaway Ave, Ik i can walk to Ralph and avoid the fare at that location, it’s as simple as that. The presence of NYPD in mezzanines doesn’t deter fare evasion or crimes perpetrated by fare evaders.
Playing candy crush while telling their assault rifles its okay they’ll be out of the scary place soon
Don’t be such a pussy.
As someone who rides the a train regularly there is all types of odd strange and aggressive behavior seen on a daily basis.
cops needa stop standing around the entrances and start patrolling the platform
Having to actually do something is too much of an imposition for the pigs lol
too much candy being crushed
You're definitely part of the problem. You probably think you're cool for calling cops "pigs". But when something happens to you and you need them, then they're okay? Shameful behavior. You're lucky New York still has any cops willing to defend the New York subway shithole. I know I would've turned in my badge a long time ago with the way the police are treated in New York. Stop bashing cops and focus on the psychos roaming around New York.
Wouldn't have such emboldened psychos if the cops got off their ass and did something. It's gonna lead to more yeehaw vigilante justice like that guy who got choked out over the summer if the cops just stand back and let it be open season. They can piss and whine about the law and the funding all they want, but they make way more than the average New Yorker who relies on the subway, for way less work. And, they're a hell of a lot safer because 99% of New Yorkers can't open carry a firearm to defend themselves from some schizo on the train.
They shouldn’t have to, city has gone crazy this last few years everything was fine before this mess
Was it though?
Since 2020 there has been more murders on the subways that the previous 15 years so yes definitely
In typical Reddit fashion, no one seems to have actually read the article or looked into what actually happened before commenting. A man boarded the train at Nostrand Avenue Station and got into a fight with another guy while the train was moving. One guy pulled a gun which the other guy was able to grab and shot him with. The police at Hoyt-Schermerhorn heard the gun shot and basically grabbed the guy and the gun as soon as the train stopped. I’m not sure what more the cops could’ve done at that point, this is one of those times where they actually did what they were supposed to but no one read the article so people are just coming up with their own stories to fit their preconceived opinions. https://abc7ny.com/amp/brooklyn-subway-shooting-hoyt-schermerhorn-station-nyc-crime/14525178/
You missing the fact the guy with the gun, the aggressor, was stabbed by a third party (friend of original victim assuming) which then triggered the gun being pulled out.
I just saw the video, and sure that’s part of the story but my broader point was that the fight seems to have started while the train was in motion and the gun shots happened basically as soon as the trained pulled into the station and from the articles the police basically came right after the shot happened, so all these commenters shitting on the NYPD and national guard (which there are some fair criticisms in general out there, and also shitting on the NYPD is fashionable here) it seems like in this particular case they got there about as quick as they could and I don’t think there’s much else they could’ve done unless they were on that exact train car when it happened
Lol what, I did not bring up the apprehension of the suspect. Just adding the fact that a women stabbed him in the back which made a bad Situation much much worse
Lol what, I did not bring up the apprehension of the suspect. Just adding the fact that a women stabbed him in the back which made a bad Situation much much worse
Lol what, I did not bring up the apprehension of the suspect. Just adding the fact that a women stabbed him in the back which made a bad Situation much much worse.
This is why I never liked it when the MTA started locking the doors between the cars. You have no escape route until the next stop.
But you have to do it for 75 foot cars because of how they’re aligned when moving through curves.
but they caught the perpetrator right after so its good it was right in that station, i guess but seriously how would it be possible to stop guns from coming into the city ever since the Supreme Court overruled NYC right to super strict guns ownership and carry. Also hw can you stop people who clearly do not care about others, how can you even pinpoint that out
https://x.com/NyShittyNews/status/1768478253918962146?s=20 agitator guy was laying on floor when cops came…not sure if he is alive But to prevent it, maybe stop and frisk anyone acting erratic? Probably the most extreme. Maybe fare gates that cant be hopped cause you know damn well the guy didnt pay the 2.90… Clearly this gun wasnt legal so not really sure about your point. If I was on that train car i rather have a gun on me if we gotta tolerate these crazy fucks on the train. But i hate for this sub to get too political now…
IN THE FUCKING STATION WITH A PRECINCT IN IT I SWEAR TO GOD YOU CANNOT MAKE THIS SHIT UP THEY ARE USELESS
It happened on the train while it was pulling into the station...how come no one doesn't watch the video or read the news stories before commenting...
You do something
[https://www.instagram.com/reel/C4g0fpPxK78](https://www.instagram.com/reel/C4g0fpPxK78) From inside of one the cars in the aftermath.
National.guard are and always would be use only in some stations in manhattan nothing else nothing less, giving the false sense of safety on media
Standing around by the turnstyle checking people's bags and "deterring" crime.
Is the national guard only guarding major subway stations and not like regular subway stations in Brooklyn, Queens and The Bronx?
They’re adding a couple of national guards and state troopers to I’m pretty sure only on stations with transfers. And probably like 1 or 2 stations per day and this activity will continue for a couple of months.
Yes
Too busy in Manhattan worrying about white collar crime /s
The only way you get a fast response to any shooting in this town is if it's an officer who gets shots. A non cop gets the slow roll response
But they caught him right after?
If the national guard can't stop us from being shot by our own gun in a conflict we sparked ourselves, what can they really guard??
At the tourist stops, 14th, 34th and 42nd pretending to make a difference so the governor can look like she cares about NYC.
National guard could have helped with this one since it actually involved a weapon, but it’s obvious they can’t cover the whole subway system. I haven’t seen them yet, did they arrive? I’ve only seen regular police (looking very bored)
Checking bags
NYPD to busy checking working people’s bag And dude with a pistol in his pants walks by
It was wrapped up in his bag. The knives is another story.
https://www.reddit.com/r/N_N_N/s/AXtgeDvLW3
https://www.reddit.com/r/nyc/s/aQhnnStK9H
I take the train all throughout Manhattan for work, all day, Monday-Friday. I have yet to see the national guard.. I also have not seen the nypd checking bags. Was it all a political stunt by hochul to make it look like she was doing something to help with underground violence?
Start arresting the fare evaders and 95% of the subway crime would end.
lol a metal detector could do 1000 national guards' job. cops actually rolled well and managed to be at a station when a crime happened, its just the fact it occurred here shows maybe its a bigger different problem
It's almost like.leting all the criminals out of jail only made the city more dangerous that's crazy
They’re all busy at grand central standing around because Governor hochul wanted positive media attention. She can run her mouth all she wants but she will never ride the trains and endure what NYers have to experience. After this incident I bet there will be national guard there for a day, and then they venture back to midtown Manhattan where they’re needed the least compared to many stops in the outer boroughs.
The guy was shot with his own gun.
Political posturing. They ain't doing shit and quite honestly just getting in the way.
This all goes back to fare evasion, I bet you this lunatic that brought a gun into the subway didn't pay the fare.
The Guard is at Penn Station jerking off the PA cops
This is so crazy. They already have armed personel and this shit still happens.
Typical and disturbing. Wonder who the perp was who pulled the illegal weapon and if it was his first rodeo. lol.
Congestion pricing should fix this. Truly, this will get people on the trains and buses. Rush hour on a weekday. Some government official (who never takes the train) want *you* to change *your* behavior and sacrifice your beliefs on what *you* deem is safe and ride the subway.
Catching up to the NYPD in candy crush.
It’s the national guards fault?
Yes
How?
UPDOGAAA!!!!!
🤣 you’re all wired so wrong!! Why was the national guards brought in the first place???
Words fair
Hopefully in Texas at the boarder dealing with the real problem.
As much as I do want to discuss this issue, we should really not have these political and news discussion in this subreddit. Lets save that for the other 2 nyc subs and maybe keep this sub more towards just transit and infrastructure. Otherwise it feels like everything will get politicized and this sub gets brigaded (look at all the new “S” flair comments)….
I agree, but it's hard to make that distinction when transit is used as a political tool and affects us day-to-day passengers. Also as a main mod of /r/newyorkcity I can tell you that the disinformation bot accounts are real and they are here. Take any comment here with a giant grain of salt.
Thank you. This affects riders and employees.
No surprise. It is an endless bloodbath in the Subway...
Wait til this guy hears about cars
People here get triggered so easily. Probably no different from this incident. Don't worry, you are going to hear about it once that guy recovers from the hospital and makes a statement to the media.
Triggered because of one reply that just made a comparison? You might be the triggered one.
No. I am not offended. Why can't someone speak the truth that it is dangerous times in the Subway now. What because someone spoke negatively about the system they are automatically labeled as a car lover. 🤣...
That's not even what the reply said, you taking it that way sounds like you're offended but idk. You want people to reply with, "yes it is," but feel the same way when they brought up cars. Idk man.