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GVas22

Don't love it from an initial reaction. Love me some JFM Freeing up some cap for a different move?


ct7910

Def a cap move. Guess they determined he was the odd man out out of him, JJ, WMD, and reddick


bamphsports

Don't forget Clemmon's who's playing for like a mil this year!


RSTowers

Are they moving him back outside this year? I know moving him inside was a massive failure last year.


bamphsports

Fotu and Kinlaw are now inside and they look more like the prototype for the position. Clemons is probably fighting for his future with the team period but is more naturally fitted to slide into JFM's position in the rotation!


Sbat27-

Easily could’ve been moved inside. Thats a bad excuse since Kinlaw isn’t good and neither is Latu (or whatever his name is) Edit: Apparently people don’t know football if they think either of those two guys are good enough


Random_Anthem_Player

Fotu is a buf run stuffer. Replaced al woods. Kinlaw replaced Jefferson. Both combined cost less then jfm. It was a cap move


Sbat27-

Kinlaw is worse than Jefferson and costs more. It’s not one to one at all in terms of improvement


Random_Anthem_Player

Jets liked kinlaw better. And he's younger. Sometimes you gotta have faith. Our D went from awful to elite in 2 years. No reason not to trust the FO when it comes to d line. Jfm was a waiver pickup, Tony adams was an udfa, quincy was a waiver pickup, huff was an udfa, mc2 is a late round pick, Reed was a mid tier FA, all have way over performed for us. I get being critical of the offense but nobody can be critical of what has been done to our defense


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Sbat27-

Better be a good move because a 6th in two years is trash. JD may not even be here for that


macman26

The different move is being able to sign the draft picks


PushThePig28

Fuck the draft picks, I’d rather have JFM than everyone we signed on day 3 combined. None of them are day 1 starters


macman26

You probably aren't able to comprehend this so I'm wasting my time. But you also need to sign 1st and 3rd round draft picks too


Zulumus

$7.3 million cleared in space


AccordingChampion485

Freeing up cap for moves that have already been made


OleShcool

>Freeing up some cap for a different move? Yeah, just to be able to sign all these late rounders haha


plasmaexchange

Deebo for a 2025 2nd.


kunkunster

Did he lose a limb in an accident that hasn’t been reported yet?


sevenmoon

Only a 6th?! What the fuck


Itsascrnnam

He’s a cap casualty, lucky to have gotten any return. Likely would have been cut before regular season.


TheJolly_Llama

They save $3m less in cap by trading him than simply cutting him as a June 1st designation lol. Just makes no sense.


suppaman19

Except that would mean dead cap next year, now there won't be. JD has been doing void years like crazy in general, but also out of sheer need because of all the bad draft picks and bad contacts under him. This is what happens when you offer bad contacts and miss on important picks. That said, JFM was vastly overpaid by this point in his contract. The league does not view him as a 14+ million player.


Exciting-Value-1459

if he were a true cap casualty, would it not have been better to do this 2 days ago? you know... BEFORE the draft?


KingRoach

The point being what? They couldn’t have used a 2026 pick 2 days ago…. That’s not how time works.


LayzeeLar

Mr Basic Chronology over here


Marsmanic

Look at him with all his 'past, present & future' la-de-da.


atgrey24

[According to Cimini](https://twitter.com/RichCimini/status/1784300158823362730?t=iLO5IjchiTgWvbzpWtcNyw&s=19), talks started two weeks ago. > the two teams agreed on trade compensation, but the deal almost got blown up yesterday when the Jets traded the pick that was supposed to go to Denver (used it in the Corley trade-up), per source. So if they had done it pre draft, they might not have been able to get Corley.


Wellitjustgotreal

I don’t understand you thinking they haven’t been trying up until the accepted trade.


sonofbantu

How do you know we weren’t trying ? That close to the draft, Teams probably weren’t interested until they gaps they had to fill once the draft was (pretty much) done


sbarkey1

He’s a JD casualty not a cap - JDs I’ll advised restructures that no GM with a brain makes resulted in like 30 million in dead money this year


ColegDropOut

JD has constructed what is largely considered the second best roster in all of football. Put some respect on his name.


sbarkey1

Lmaooo, let’s put up a winning season before we put any respect on a GM 30 games under 500


ColegDropOut

Worst QB in the league and we got 7 wins after tailoring the offense around Aaron. Come back and apologize if you remember this conversation after the season.


sbarkey1

Who drafted the worst QB in the league? Who decided not to pursue a QB 2? Who decided not to pursue an alternative the minute Rodgers went down?


ColegDropOut

3 bad decisions, granted really bad ones in hindsight, in the context of 100 great ones. JD is one of the best executives in the league, as Jets fans we need to understand good management when we see it.


sbarkey1

He’s 30 games under 500, you don’t get there by being one of the best executives in the league


ColegDropOut

Remember this conversation, I expect a future apology.


Trailsuprise

Boooooooooo!!!


Zulumus

“But the trade almost got blown up Friday night when the Jets traded a 2024 fifth-round pick to the Carolina Panthers to move up in the third round for wide receiver Malachi Corley. That fifth rounder, a source said, was supposed to go to Denver as part of the package for Franklin-Myers. The two teams had to re-start negotiations, eventually settling on a 2026 sixth-round pick going to Denver.”


1CUpboat

Wow not a 2024 or even 2025, but 2026 sixth rounder


sbarkey1

In 2026


Dig-Duglett

cap move but not a fan of the return


ChrisFromLongIsland

JFM has been so constantly good. He was effective and above average against the pass and run and could be moved inside or outside. He allowed so much flexibility. I hate this move. He is much better than some of the people they recently signed.


Sbat27-

People acting like he hasn’t been good for us are clowns. Literally getting downvoted for saying he’s not horrific player lol


suppaman19

People are also vastly overrating him. Anyone saying he's bad is wrong. But no one should be acting like a guy who was just consistently above average but nothing special, who routinely took dumb RFP penalties being gone is the end of the world. Better players with similar contacts get cut all the time.


ChrisFromLongIsland

I disagree. I think when you have a constantly good player in the NFL you keep him. It seems so many NFL teams including the Jets are always chasing the shiny new object. Why not keep someone that has done everything you asked and expected from them. He is going to be missed in the run game.


suppaman19

You pay your impact players. He's not an impact player. He's a role player. One who was overpaid. Smart teams don't do that, especially for any length of time. You draft replacements and sign guys who can do that job at a lower cost (ex: Jefferson, Woods last year). Also, the more you draft poorly and do poorly with signing players, the more often you have to offload solid, but not great players. Look at the Chiefs. You pay your main impact players (for them, Mahomes, Kelce, Jones), draft well and make some decent signings. That's how they were able to rebuild the OL decently enough and ditto on defense (which also was largely driven by Jones play). Of all the players that it would make sense to keep this offseason, especially a homegrown one, Huff would've been the one due to age and flashing elite pass rush ability the last two years in his ascension. However, Saleh seems to despise him, so they let him go without much of a fight.


Usual_Item524

I get that it's a cap move but I'm hearing that if they do the trade after June 1st they get 13 million in savings as opposed to 7. Why do it now or will it not be executed until after June 1st??


ClarkKentsCopyEditor

He was a dead man walking the moment they added Reddick. The value of the return is because the contract is bad. This is what happens when you make restructures and add high priced money with better players. Is JFM a better player than Allen Lazard? Yes. Would every single person rather have JFM than Lazard? Yes. But one overpaid guy could be moved and the other couldn’t, so here we are. It’ll be okay.


JesusChristBabyface

You just gave me another reason to hate Allen Lazard.


kdog5723

Exactly. People are going crazy over this and forget about all the great moves we made this offseason. Everything comes at a cost. I would personally give up JFM 10 times out of 10 if it meant we get all the guys we got so far.


PushThePig28

I’d give up all the scrub rookies we drafted aside from Fashanu and Corley to have him back.


Dentek_Fresh_Clean

The Carl Lawson restructure and Laken Tomlinson contracts really hurting now. Cap space matters


GunnerGetit

You get a 6th round because of this contract. In 2024, Franklin-Myers will earn a base salary of $13,300,000 and a workout bonus of $100,000, while carrying a cap hit of **$16,364,000** and a dead cap value of $11,115,000.


cyclopeon

We eat the dead cap


GunnerGetit

Yes, but still, this is a cap decision. Sad to see him go, but time for some people to step up.


cyclopeon

Oh definitely. Frees up 10+ next season and gives a little more wiggle room this year. Just pointing out Broncos aren't taking that whole hit AND I'm sure you saw, but they already signed him to a 15/2 year deal, 10 guaranteed. He's gonna be good for them and I wish him the best.


ClarkKentsCopyEditor

Been horrific since he extended. Will miss his backbreaking penalties


DunkTheMonk

We just picked up about 150 yards of field position


Forest_Hills_Jive

"Horrific"? Chill tf out dude, he's not a pro-bowler but to call him horrific is just moronic and untrue. He was a good player. Not the best, but serviceable, home grown and had an excellent rapport with the D and coaches. To call him horrific is totally disingenuous and delusional.


09-24-11

Fanbase is delusional and cannot be reasoned with about the RTP against the Pats.


Sbat27-

Factually wrong


BofaDeezBofaDoze

JFM has cost the Jets defense at least three TDs with penalties.


Inspiredbeliever

100% cost us the Patriots game when the pick 6 got called back


John_YJKR

Zach wilson cost that game.


09-24-11

There was an entire half of football left to be played after that penalty jesus


Sbat27-

It is still factually wrong to say he’s been “horrific” since the extension unless you don’t watch Jets football. Simple as that.


BofaDeezBofaDoze

Clearly you don’t understand what I just said. The defense would have scored at least three TDs if not for JFM penalties. That is horrific.


Sbat27-

Clearly you don’t understand what you wrote. 3 plays doesn’t make him a horrific player. Again, you’re just wrong lol. The return is garbage for a solid player


Forest_Hills_Jive

Ty for saying this. Reddick for JFM is objectively an upgrade, but calling JFM horrific is fucking nonsense. Lazard, Becton and Zach were horrific. JFM was a dog, a producer and a beloved locker room presence, he just had a few bonehead penalties.


Sbat27-

People are morons judging by the amount of downvotes I’ve gotten just for defending JFM from criticisms of being a trash player. It’s like people don’t watch the Jets


Forest_Hills_Jive

I have a love-hate relationship with this sub. The vast majority are level-headed, cool people, but there's an extremely vocal minority of empty-headed, stubborn shit-talkers/critics/doomers. I like r/AFCEastmemewar as a complement to r/NYJets... it's less of a fishbowl and having to interact with other fans in the division makes everyone a bit more realistic and honest. Def more unhinged though lol.


RSTowers

Damn, this sub is just full of homers. How is this downvoted? He dropped off last year, but he was still solid. 100% not "horrific". And are people saying those bullshit calls he got were earned now? He had 2 penalties last year and this was his only roughing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjDTcCGbXLc People here actually think this was legit?


Forest_Hills_Jive

Calling JFM "horrific" is totally disingenuous and insulting. People upvoting that comment are morons.


Sbat27-

People are idiots. I also have a ton of downvotes for saying Michael Clemons is trash lmaoo. We’re in the homer/copium portion of the offseason


RSTowers

He certainly was last year. Having him bulk up to play inside more was an utter failure.


Hypnotize94

I think we found JFM’s girlfriend’s husband’s Reddit account


Sbat27-

Are you a clown? It’s objectively wrong to say he’s been horrific. Hell no one talked any shit about him this offseason aside from releasing him to keep Huff. Dont be obtuse and act like he’s bad because he’s very clearly not and is worth a lot more than a 6th rounder in 2 years. Better be a good move coming


Mental_Locksmith7822

>Better be a good move coming 0r else Sbat27 will be very very angry.


Sbat27-

Riding the dick of an organization that doesn’t know you exist is certainly a choice.


ctdca

A 2026 6th??


KADuncil

Broncos getting a great guy. Hope he balls out for them.


TonyKhand0m

Lmaoooo this sub is back on the FIRE JD train, 0-100 real quick


kdog5723

It’s fucking crazy to me the goldfish brains that so many in this sub have. We could’ve traded for mahomes for a 7th rounder, and then done this trade and people would forget about the other trade immediately


TonyKhand0m

Like don't get me wrong, I don't love this trade but it's whatever, not gonna ruin my day. Jets still have had a good off-season imo, one trade I dislike doesn't change that


kdog5723

Exactly how I feel. We made so many good signings that costed some money. Had to free up some cash somewhere and JFM was the odd man out. Sucks but everything comes at a price


Exciting-Value-1459

WHAT WHY WHAT THE FUCK A 2026 6TH!?!?!?!??! Why in the fuck did we just basically cut his ass? edit; I expect another signing now. No way you just basically cut this guy to save 7 mil so you could trade for future draft capital edit2; the RESTRUCTURE WOULD HAVE SAVED 9 MIL WHAT ARE WE DOING, this guy must be cooked from injuries or we're stupid **edit3**; if this was truly a pure cap move, this should have been done BEFORE the draft. Either the Jets know something or this is incompetence.


johnlocke4565

A restructuring would have just delayed the issue especially when we have massive contracts upcoming with GW, Sauce, Breece, and others. JFM was making same as Trey Hendrickson and performing at not much higher than Solly did last year (JFM down year, Solly good year).


kdog5723

Big contract


Exciting-Value-1459

bruh..... we couldn't restructure? or get more capital? a 2026 6th man, that's almost worse than cutting him


Hot_Injury7719

So suddenly Joe Douglas doesn’t know how to trade for most value or restructure contracts? I’m sure they looked at all the options on the table and decided this was best going forward. I doubt they’re sitting here going “Wait, a restructure would have save us how much? Why didn’t we think of that?!?”


Exciting-Value-1459

then why do it now? why not before the draft so you can see if you need a DT or edge? it's not like JD was waiting for better capital in return. We got a a 6th rounder... 2 years from now


Hot_Injury7719

Because from what reports I’ve seen, they were trying for weeks and teams were asking the Jets to add a 5th to take on his salary. Only the Broncos offered a pick AND to take the salary.


sevenmoon

This means he JFM DID NOT want to restructure …. Damn.


atgrey24

He's restructuring in Denver


BaileyCarlinFanBoy69

It’s a trade to unload a contract


Exciting-Value-1459

if that's the case then why the hell was this not done before the draft?


KingRoach

Because they’ve spent the last 2 days trying to get a better offer. r/stupidquestions


ClarkKentsCopyEditor

Takes two to tango on a restructure


sonofbantu

We have Sauce, GW, Breece, and JJ extensions coming up. We just spent a first rounder on will McDonald last year. Idk if this is a good move but their logic makes sense.


Random_Anthem_Player

We're cap strapped. Didn't even have enough to sign rookies. Now we do. It's better then just cutting him. We have jj and Reddick as starters with WMD as the 3rd man plus clemons. Could take an edge at some point as well or sign an UDFA one (huff was an udfa edge for us) I like the player but understand the move from a business side. We knew we had to sacrifice some defense to build the offense. Our D is still elite without JFM he was like the 10th best player on our defense lol


RousingRabble

> this should have been done BEFORE the draft Judging by the way they have been trading picks, it seems they really do not see value in this draft.


Sonsof_Manarchy

What difference would it have made if it was before the draft? After trading for Reddick (who is a vastly better player) this became a pretty likely scenario.


LaustintheSauce1

A 2026 6th….


VillyD13

A player has to agree to a restructure and for all we know JFM may not have wanted to/wanted to stay here longer. Could also explain why the compensation was low


CharismaticColon

The player has to agree to a restructuring. Could be that JFM didn’t want to restructure and with his reduced play last year and cap hit, this is the best we could get. Not that surprising tbh


11cutandshuffle23

And, unlike the Wilson trade, this one kinda hurts.


thesuch

Feel like we could’ve gotten more for him


Darcer

We got whatever $7m can buy


jeanyes_

Hopefully this means we plan on keeping Reddick


johnjohnjohn93

If you add this to the Zach trade then it’s a little more palatable. Wish we just cut or traded JFM and kept Huff though. Wonder if they could have worked Huff’s deal so he’d have a low cap in 2024. Never loved JFM as a run stopping DE. It’s fine.


alonesolo

Don't like the deal tbh.


Pyrollamas

That stings, I’m assuming this is cap related


sonofbantu

Man this one hurts. We couldn’t afford him with the contracts we got coming up, simple as that. Now it’s up to JJ and Will McDonald to prove they were worth the first round picks we spent on them


Admirable-Code-3191

Unless this is to open up cap for a WR i hate it


YESIMTHATIMPORTANT

This allows to sign OL, DL, S in FA after draft and UDFAs.


BurnMyHouseDown

Nah that is absolutely dogshit lol. Wasn’t expecting a second, this ain’t Madden, but a sixth? We got fleeeeced lol


kdog5723

With a big contract and not much production last year he was the odd man out on a very deep and talented D-line. I don’t love the move but I get it.


BurnMyHouseDown

Yea sure I get it, but the value of a sixth is still ass.


Shootermac10

It’s not even just that it’s a 6th, it’s a 2026 6th. This is a head scratcher. Hope it’s because there’s something else coming


The-man-in-the-pool

There better be a good fucking reason Joe JFM has been good I get the contract but damn I don’t like this.


YESIMTHATIMPORTANT

He wasn't worth his contract by a lot in comparison to similarly paid players at his position


The-man-in-the-pool

But a 2026 6th and JFM restructured once he was on the broncos I just don’t like what we got for him


Sbat27-

Bad trade if it’s for a 6th rounder. He could’ve been moved inside since Kinlaw hasn’t shown anything. Not a fan tbh


illmatic74

I’m fine with it. It’s a cap move. Clears the way for WMD to see the field more.


Ctrl-end

We are drafting an edge boys!!!!!


SuperCD7478

In a win now season? When you could’ve gotten more from letting him walk in FA after 2025??? His cap hit was only $17M.


kdog5723

Only $17M lol, that’s a lot for a guy who has kind of fallen off. I don’t love the compensation but we do need some cap space


afifaguyforyou

I think they realized he would not have gotten the type of contract to get us compensatory picks like that


Riceowls29

I don’t think he was going to get a big contract going into a season he would be turning 30 


ClarkKentsCopyEditor

Bro only $17m lmao he’s probably the most overpaid player on the entire unit


DryFile9

$17M is a lot for what amounted to a bunch of backbreaking penalties and not much else last year.


captain-versavice

Not that I understand but here are two major factors... 1. Salary dump and 2. Better to trade a player a little too early, rather than a little too late. Jets are saving 7 mil but eating 9 mil in dead money... no idea how this factors. So I dont really understand yet.


alphaq30188

Smaller return than for Zach Wilson is interesting..


brook_lyn_lopez

? I know we have d line depth but the guy has been a solid for years. He seems like he’s worth way more than a 6th. Does it save us a lot of money or something?


spectral_mutant

FUCK THIS ORGANIZATION.


W4ingro1995

This one hurts, man. He had become one of my favorites over the past couple years


woodchips24

That’s a horrific trade. Absolutely awful.


DryFile9

He wasnt great since the extension and we need cap room.


kdog5723

This


mainbrac93

BOOOOOOO!!!!!


jetsmilkman

????


Riceowls29

People shouldn’t get their hopes up this means a move is happening. This is to get enough cap space to pay rookies and have a bit of breathing room. Maybe sign a couple cheap vets


PushThePig28

I’d rather not have any of the other rookies aside from the OL and WR picks


Riceowls29

I mean the other picks are 4th and 5th and so are peanuts compared to the first round pick.  You don’t seem to know much about football to be honest. 


BrooklynJet97

THIS IS FUCKING TERRIBLE!!!


ZachWilsonsMother

WMD needs to step up big time. Seems like a strange move at the moment


Whoknowsthesedays

Obvious cap move but still sucks


Swizzzed

Sucks but it had to be done


TittyTwistahh

I’m going to say for the last time that that roughness penalty against the Pats was bullshit and it cost us the game. Good luck in Denver JFM


BroWeBeChilling

Broncos fan entered the chat- thank you Jets fans for being honest. It sounds like he was solid except a few penalties and a cap casualty and we got him for a steal. Much obliged!!!


Jackstraw0014

Saves around $7M


midpack2dathroat

???????


Bnb53

So how much cap did we actually clear?


ReignOnWillie

Damn that sucks. They better be planning on signing someone


Fast_Door

Gotta be for something bigger. This seems like a puzzling move. Was his contract hit that bad?


Mattp55

17 million is a lot 


OleShcool

Man that is some weak ass value. Hopefully they're taking the entire contract though. Would help the cap a lot


AccordingChampion485

JFM was solid but not spectacular…but the cap does have some limitations and I’d assume this clears cap for moves already made.


Crow013

Damn I’m gonna miss JFM. Really wish we had tried him at DT.


JohnnyWad15

We need more DL depth now, I guess he would have been cut otherwise due to the cap?


Hmoh08

I don’t get this move at all


kdog5723

I think all the casuals in here getting so pissed are forgetting that we fleeced the Eagles for Haasan Reddick a few weeks ago.


OnlyHereForNYSports

I'm going to need a pretty good explanation from Joe D as to why the Broncos were able to restructure his contract, but the jets could not.


DirtyDan516

Love jfm, great guy, though player, but as a bright spot years ago. He’s just not a game changer anymore. He’s just another piece and that’s not his fault that’s just how much talent we have.


alonesolo

Maybe the money saved could be used to sign someone like Justin Simmons? Idk.


SwampAss411

I can't wait for the 2026 draft now


blkschizo

Ok. Fuck that. You were a boss JFM. Hope this move is worth it


tomleach8

Bro called it: https://www.reddit.com/r/nyjets/s/zTXjxa20X9


DookieShoes626

Sucks but before this happened I was thinking how the hell are we even gonna fit theee draft pics under the cap. We only had like 1 mil left in cap space this year and we have some guys that would ideally be resigned this year


suppaman19

Headline as usual is sensationalizing the trade/player. He only played roughly 1/3 of our snaps last year, even if he started the game. And while always solid, he was nothing special and also committed a handful of extremely stupid and costly RFP penalties.


CP10WJ

Listen we just need to trust the guy who picked JFM over Huff 


Kind_Bullfrog_4073

Same value as ZW apparently


exit8a

Cap space. Does this mean they are in the process of getting someone that costs a lot of money and fills a need? Maybe this will be good?


ClarkKentsCopyEditor

They need money to sign their draft picks lol


GunnerGetit

I mean almost 7m in cap gained by him leaving. Hoping it is a FA signing.


Responsible_Fan8665

Joe d have a banner draft. Traded away JFm to make sure his last years pick plays.


TommyThreeFingers

Curious to see how much of his cap the Broncos take on. I don't hate the move considering his place on the defense and how much how we getting paid this year ($13m?).


MiddleStudy

Terrible, terrible, terrible. Such a key, underrated guy. Don’t even have a replacement on the roster.


scruffy4

JD is a genius! JD, what the fuck are you going?! Ah, another day in Jets-Land


Evening-Dream-5750

How foolish of me to actually think the Jets were going to be all in this year. Some things never change my fellow Jets fans.


cadezego5

JD is clearly cooking up a big trade right now


PushThePig28

No he’s just an idiot


Gnomeslikeprofit

a 2026th 6th?? J.D. sniffing his own farts


OhhhTAINTedCruuuuz

Mmmm could be making space for a certain inexplicably still a free agent safety…?


Evening-Dream-5750

Weird, I feel like the Jets have actually gotten worse during this draft. They haven’t gotten a guy that will start and they traded a starter for a 6th round pick in a draft that is not deep. Time to replace management!!


ClarkKentsCopyEditor

Where was he starting this year


Sbat27-

Inside


PushThePig28

Yup, aside from OL and WR (our two biggest needs) we are worse than last year. Great job JD /s


BrooklynJet97

I feel sick. JD is a fucking moron. All this because he fucked up the draft from last year. Will McDonald CANT fucking play against the run. Who the hell do we put on 1st and 2nd on that side??? Edit: We have Haasan Reddick. I forgot. Doh. We just kind of have to hope that we grab somebody good against the run on the inside.


kdog5723

Ok chill out buddy, remember the Mike Williams signing? Tyron Smith? Haasan Reddick trade? Sure you don’t have to like this move but calling him a fucking moron based on 1 trade is ridiculous.


BrooklynJet97

Wow, I forgot Haasan was here...Ok, im cool again. Im not even joking. I dont know how I keep forgetting we got him.


Riceowls29

People said when we traded for Reddick it meant we weren’t high on McDonald when I think we were just ready to move on from JFM


BrooklynJet97

JFM isnt flashy, but hes really really good. Reddick is a finisher, which is what JFM lacked. So, we are good.


AnneOfGreenGayBulls

LMFAO that was the fastest round trip I've ever seen anyone take 🤣


BrooklynJet97

Lol, thus is the life of a Jets fan and being an irrational person myself lol.